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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 11:51:34 GMT -5
I think its clear what the FO's plan is. At least, presumably. Draft is where we attack OL
All they've been doing is making excellent moves in FA from all positions other than the OL, other than some rumblings about Turner, the Giants didn't attack this problem despite it arguably being their biggest issue.
I dont trust the LG/OT positions.. Its the biggest hole we have on offence. Your OL is as good as its weakest link. Hernendez has potential, but hasn't put it together. Peart is the same and we dont really know what we have. We can't go into the season like this. DJ doesn't have the best pocket awareness and we need to afford him time in the pocket above all else, he will make the plays if given the chance
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- Draft Slater; or Sewell if either are there at 11. Above all else. - I'd consider Darrisaw at 11, but haven't watched enough of him to be sure.
Slater would slide into RG/RT day 1 and be elite, he coud easily play LT/RT and do fine, his initial punch is outstanding and I just watched him dominate Chase Young for 98% of their game. Rag dolled him and kept his QB clean playing LT. I think we could use someone like that, he can play all 5 positions. My number 1 target even over Sewell. This would put Lemieux as a swing guard, if Peart can't play RT you can pencil in Slater there and not bat an eye.
If the above options dont work i'd trade down and pick later in the first , however, try and pick up an extra second, if possible. I'd spend 2/3 picks on a OG and OT and take a WR with our extra second
Who will stop this offence if we can keep DG upright and open holes for Saquon who lets be honest, doesn't have the best vision? I dont agree with taking a WR #11 and hoping for the best in the lineman in the second.
We need to build inside out
How do you purpose we fix the issue?
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:04:58 GMT -5
I don't disagree with your sentiment here. Adding talent to the OL is always important IMO. However, you don't know that JJ and DG agree with your assessment of Lemuiex, Hernandez and Peart. They both have significantly more information on their capabilities than any of us do.
Also, you don't want to draft by positional need and taking Slater at 11, IMO, would be just that. I don't think he is a top of the draft talent and not better than several players that will be available later. Also, a guard does not present positional value, so he had better be all world to be considered that high.
If this was a weak interior OL draft, maybe it would make sense, but the interior OL is deep and plentiful. There will likely be an interior lineman equally as good available at the top of the second. Now you might consider him a tackle, which would increase his value, but we will have to disagree there as I don't see him as a tackle in the NFL. Or at least not a good enough tackle to spend a high first round pick on him, I should amend.
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:08:21 GMT -5
If you are going to roll guard at 11, take Alijah Vera-Tucker, the best OL in the draft, but purely a guard. Though played well at tackle even still.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 24, 2021 12:08:30 GMT -5
While I'd be TOTALLY fine with Slater or Sewell in the 1st, but could we get a similar, but not as elite, level of talent in the 2nd?
If Smith, Chase, Waddle, or Pitts I think I'd rather take 1 of them in the 1st and then wait to see if we can get someone like Wyatt Davis, Creed Humphrey, Teven Jenkins or Jackson Carman in the 2nd.
As opposed to taking Slater in the 1st and going after Terry Marshall or Kadarius Toney in the 2nd or Dynami Brown, Dwayne Eskridge, or Dazz Newsome in the 3rd
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:10:33 GMT -5
While I'd be TOTALLY fine with Slater or Sewell in the 1st, but could we get a similar, but not as elite, level of talent in the 2nd? If Smith, Chase, Waddle, or Pitts I think I'd rather take 1 of them in the 1st and then wait to see if we can get someone like Wyatt Davis, Creed Humphrey, Teven Jenkins or Jackson Carman in the 2nd. As opposed to taking Slater in the 1st and going after Terry Marshall or Kadarius Toney in the 2nd or Dynami Brown, Dwayne Eskridge, or Dazz Newsome in the 3rd I'm loving Davis or Jenkins in rnd 2. Both will be as good or better than Slater IMO.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:12:41 GMT -5
I don't disagree with your sentiment here. Adding talent to the OL is always important IMO. However, you don't know that JJ and DG agree with your assessment of Lemuiex, Hernandez and Peart. They both have significantly more information on their capabilities than any of us do. Also, you don't want to draft by positional need and taking Slater at 11, IMO, would be just that. I don't think he is a top of the draft talent and not better than several players that will be available later. Also, a guard does not present positional value, so he had better be all world to be considered that high. If this was a weak interior OL draft, maybe it would make sense, but the interior OL is deep and plentiful. There will likely be an interior lineman equally as good available at the top of the second. Now you might consider him a tackle, which would increase his value, but we will have to disagree there as I don't see him as a tackle in the NFL. Or at least not a good enough tackle to spend a high first round pick on him, I should amend. I think Slater could be Garretts Zack Martin. He's very similar in that he's a pro bowl OG prospect that could be an excellent OT. Daniel Jeremiah has him as his #6 overall propsect and had this to say: "Slater is a slightly undersized tackle prospect. He plays with outstanding knee bend, foot quickness and balance. He explodes out of his stance in the passing game and does an excellent job of re-working his hands to maintain inside position. Slater gives a little ground versus power before dropping his weight and anchoring late. His best trait is his ability to recover when he finds himself in a bad position. In the run game, he plays with quickness and urgency when working up to the second level. He takes great angles and is one of the best I've seen when it comes to cutting off linebackers. He doesn't have elite power to knock back defenders over his nose, but he does a good job of running his feet and staying attached. He has excellent awareness. Overall, Slater might lack ideal length, but it doesn't hinder him and I believe he can excel at left tackle. If a team chooses to play him inside, he should quickly develop into a Pro Bowl guard." Also, he trains with elite OL trainer Duke Manyweather who worked with Becton last year. He's the best in the business and Hernendez is working with him this offseason as well, hope he improves. I do wonder what the Giants think of him which is what ultimately matters. To me? Slater could play any position on our OL and be better than what we currently have.
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Post by allnygin on Mar 24, 2021 12:12:44 GMT -5
If you are going to roll guard at 11, take Alijah Vera-Tucker, the best OL in the draft, but purely a guard. Though played well at tackle even still. That would be my pick.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 24, 2021 12:14:04 GMT -5
Would be appealing if Sewell dropped past the Bengals.
i’d probably stay at #11 and go OL yet tempted to be more aggressive with that 2nd pick and go get what i need.
i’m temped at this Zaven Collins out of Tulsa although i’m sure he’ll have the impact a wide receiver can have.
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:14:39 GMT -5
While I'd be TOTALLY fine with Slater or Sewell in the 1st, but could we get a similar, but not as elite, level of talent in the 2nd? If Smith, Chase, Waddle, or Pitts I think I'd rather take 1 of them in the 1st and then wait to see if we can get someone like Wyatt Davis, Creed Humphrey, Teven Jenkins or Jackson Carman in the 2nd. As opposed to taking Slater in the 1st and going after Terry Marshall or Kadarius Toney in the 2nd or Dynami Brown, Dwayne Eskridge, or Dazz Newsome in the 3rd For me the top 10 OL (as of now) are 1-Vera-Tucker-G 2-Sewell-G 3-Davis-G 4-Jenkins-T 5-Humphrey-C 6-Slater-G 7-Radunz-T 8-Carman-T/G 9-Dickerson-C/G 10-Myers-C
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:15:29 GMT -5
Would be appealing if Sewell dropped past the Bengals. I think he may actually be there at #11 which would be unreal.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:16:47 GMT -5
While I'd be TOTALLY fine with Slater or Sewell in the 1st, but could we get a similar, but not as elite, level of talent in the 2nd? If Smith, Chase, Waddle, or Pitts I think I'd rather take 1 of them in the 1st and then wait to see if we can get someone like Wyatt Davis, Creed Humphrey, Teven Jenkins or Jackson Carman in the 2nd. As opposed to taking Slater in the 1st and going after Terry Marshall or Kadarius Toney in the 2nd or Dynami Brown, Dwayne Eskridge, or Dazz Newsome in the 3rd I think the gap with Slater/Sewell and the rest is large. However, would be happy to trade down and take a stab at 2-3 of the later round guys. Plug more holes
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Post by allnygin on Mar 24, 2021 12:17:01 GMT -5
It would be very hard to pass up a guy like waddle if he's there, but for me.. I want another hog molly give me Vera-Tucker assuming sewell doesn't drop. whcih he wont... I don't know what depth really looks like in this draft for olineman. If there's not much disparity, I would not mind going offensive weapon then ol in the 2nd rd..
I just don't want a repeat of what manning had when he had obj, barkly, shep engram etc a good fn offense that couldn't do shit bc of a shitty oline. WE NEED HOG MOLLIES STILL.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 12:17:10 GMT -5
So it seems they didn't bother with the oline in FA because there are a lot of quality players in the draft.. I hope it works out!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 24, 2021 12:18:16 GMT -5
While I'd be TOTALLY fine with Slater or Sewell in the 1st, but could we get a similar, but not as elite, level of talent in the 2nd? If Smith, Chase, Waddle, or Pitts I think I'd rather take 1 of them in the 1st and then wait to see if we can get someone like Wyatt Davis, Creed Humphrey, Teven Jenkins or Jackson Carman in the 2nd. As opposed to taking Slater in the 1st and going after Terry Marshall or Kadarius Toney in the 2nd or Dynami Brown, Dwayne Eskridge, or Dazz Newsome in the 3rd From what I have read there are some nasty Guards in the draft and a few should be there in the second rd.
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:18:42 GMT -5
I don't disagree with your sentiment here. Adding talent to the OL is always important IMO. However, you don't know that JJ and DG agree with your assessment of Lemuiex, Hernandez and Peart. They both have significantly more information on their capabilities than any of us do. Also, you don't want to draft by positional need and taking Slater at 11, IMO, would be just that. I don't think he is a top of the draft talent and not better than several players that will be available later. Also, a guard does not present positional value, so he had better be all world to be considered that high. If this was a weak interior OL draft, maybe it would make sense, but the interior OL is deep and plentiful. There will likely be an interior lineman equally as good available at the top of the second. Now you might consider him a tackle, which would increase his value, but we will have to disagree there as I don't see him as a tackle in the NFL. Or at least not a good enough tackle to spend a high first round pick on him, I should amend. I think Slater could be Garretts Zack Martin. He's very similar in that he's a pro bowl OG prospect that could be an excellent OT. Daniel Jeremiah has him as his #6 overall propsect and had this to say: "Slater is a slightly undersized tackle prospect. He plays with outstanding knee bend, foot quickness and balance. He explodes out of his stance in the passing game and does an excellent job of re-working his hands to maintain inside position. Slater gives a little ground versus power before dropping his weight and anchoring late. His best trait is his ability to recover when he finds himself in a bad position. In the run game, he plays with quickness and urgency when working up to the second level. He takes great angles and is one of the best I've seen when it comes to cutting off linebackers. He doesn't have elite power to knock back defenders over his nose, but he does a good job of running his feet and staying attached. He has excellent awareness. Overall, Slater might lack ideal length, but it doesn't hinder him and I believe he can excel at left tackle. If a team chooses to play him inside, he should quickly develop into a Pro Bowl guard." Also, he trains with elite OL trainer Duke Manyweather who worked with Becton last year. He's the best in the business and Hernendez is working with him this offseason as well, hope he improves. I do wonder what the Giants think of him which is what ultimately matters. To me? Slater could play any position on our OL and be better than what we currently have. Yeah, not seeing it. I also can't wrap my brain around the logic that puts him in the top of the draft. Prior to 2020 college season most of these same people placing him at the top of round 1 were calling him a 2nd round pick. How did he move up so much in their eyes by not playing in 2020? Absence makes the heart grow fonder maybe?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 24, 2021 12:20:19 GMT -5
It would be very hard to pass up a guy like waddle if he's there, but for me.. I want another hog molly give me Vera-Tucker assuming sewell doesn't drop. whcih he wont... I don't know what depth really looks like in this draft for olineman. If there's not much disparity, I would not mind going offensive weapon then ol in the 2nd rd.. I just don't want a repeat of what manning had when he had obj, barkly, shep engram etc a good fn offense that couldn't do shit bc of a shitty oline. WE NEED HOG MOLLIES STILL. They are gonna go hog wild i think on OL and Pass Rusher.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:21:12 GMT -5
I think Slater could be Garretts Zack Martin. He's very similar in that he's a pro bowl OG prospect that could be an excellent OT. Daniel Jeremiah has him as his #6 overall propsect and had this to say: "Slater is a slightly undersized tackle prospect. He plays with outstanding knee bend, foot quickness and balance. He explodes out of his stance in the passing game and does an excellent job of re-working his hands to maintain inside position. Slater gives a little ground versus power before dropping his weight and anchoring late. His best trait is his ability to recover when he finds himself in a bad position. In the run game, he plays with quickness and urgency when working up to the second level. He takes great angles and is one of the best I've seen when it comes to cutting off linebackers. He doesn't have elite power to knock back defenders over his nose, but he does a good job of running his feet and staying attached. He has excellent awareness. Overall, Slater might lack ideal length, but it doesn't hinder him and I believe he can excel at left tackle. If a team chooses to play him inside, he should quickly develop into a Pro Bowl guard." Also, he trains with elite OL trainer Duke Manyweather who worked with Becton last year. He's the best in the business and Hernendez is working with him this offseason as well, hope he improves. I do wonder what the Giants think of him which is what ultimately matters. To me? Slater could play any position on our OL and be better than what we currently have. Yeah, not seeing it. I also can't wrap my brain around the logic that puts him in the top of the draft. Prior to 2020 college season most of these same people placing him at the top of round 1 were calling him a 2nd round pick. How did he move up so much in their eyes by not playing in 2020? Absence makes the heart grow fonder maybe? He has really, really clean tape. His footwork/awareness is what sets him apart and is most important at the next level, in my opinion. His initial punch is outstanding Not to mention, not a long list of lineman out there that have outstanding tape against Chase Young. A problem we'll be dealing with for the next decade!
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:22:55 GMT -5
It would be very hard to pass up a guy like waddle if he's there, but for me.. I want another hog molly give me Vera-Tucker assuming sewell doesn't drop. whcih he wont... I don't know what depth really looks like in this draft for olineman. If there's not much disparity, I would not mind going offensive weapon then ol in the 2nd rd.. I just don't want a repeat of what manning had when he had obj, barkly, shep engram etc a good fn offense that couldn't do shit bc of a shitty oline. WE NEED HOG MOLLIES STILL. They are gonna go hog wild i think on OL and Pass Rusher. I wouldn't mind pass rusher. I dont see a value for one at 11. Maybe they see it different.
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:25:34 GMT -5
Yeah, not seeing it. I also can't wrap my brain around the logic that puts him in the top of the draft. Prior to 2020 college season most of these same people placing him at the top of round 1 were calling him a 2nd round pick. How did he move up so much in their eyes by not playing in 2020? Absence makes the heart grow fonder maybe? He has really, really clean tape. His footwork/awareness is what sets up apart and is most important at the next level, in my opinion. Not to mention, not a long list of lineman out there that have outstanding tape against Chase Young. A problem we'll be dealing with for the next decade! That's fine, I still like many of the other guards available as much or more than him. I figure one of them will still be there in the 2nd. Much like when we drafted Hernandez. There was a very good guard available at the top of the 1st, but a bunch of good ones that I felt would be available in the second. Primarily Smith, which he was and the Giants passed on him....ugh.
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Post by allnygin on Mar 24, 2021 12:25:39 GMT -5
Yeah, not seeing it. I also can't wrap my brain around the logic that puts him in the top of the draft. Prior to 2020 college season most of these same people placing him at the top of round 1 were calling him a 2nd round pick. How did he move up so much in their eyes by not playing in 2020? Absence makes the heart grow fonder maybe? He has really, really clean tape. His footwork/awareness is what sets him apart and is most important at the next level, in my opinion. His initial punch is outstanding Not to mention, not a long list of lineman out there that have outstanding tape against Chase Young. A problem we'll be dealing with for the next decade! I don't know, doesn't him being away from football for a year concern you? It seems like every player I can remember who came into the draft not playing there senior year struggled mightily, remained injured and never took off.. i.e. Marvin Austin. I feel the same way about Ruessou these guys are being considered pretty high for not being on a field in a year. idk maybe he's been training hard and conditioning and strenght wont be an issue.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 24, 2021 12:27:15 GMT -5
While I'd be TOTALLY fine with Slater or Sewell in the 1st, but could we get a similar, but not as elite, level of talent in the 2nd? If Smith, Chase, Waddle, or Pitts I think I'd rather take 1 of them in the 1st and then wait to see if we can get someone like Wyatt Davis, Creed Humphrey, Teven Jenkins or Jackson Carman in the 2nd. As opposed to taking Slater in the 1st and going after Terry Marshall or Kadarius Toney in the 2nd or Dynami Brown, Dwayne Eskridge, or Dazz Newsome in the 3rd For me the top 10 OL (as of now) are 1-Vera-Tucker-G 2-Sewell-G 3-Davis-G 4-Jenkins-T 5-Humphrey-C 6-Slater-G 7-Radunz-T 8-Carman-T/G 9-Dickerson-C/G 10-Myers-C I like Davis, Jenkins, and Humphrey, but Slater is better than all of them
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:29:09 GMT -5
He has really, really clean tape. His footwork/awareness is what sets up apart and is most important at the next level, in my opinion. Not to mention, not a long list of lineman out there that have outstanding tape against Chase Young. A problem we'll be dealing with for the next decade! That's fine, I still like many of the other guards available as much or more than him. I figure one of them will still be there in the 2nd. Much like when we drafted Hernandez. There was a very good guard available at the top of the 1st, but a bunch of good ones that I felt would be available in the second. Primarily Smith, which he was and the Giants passed on him....ugh. I think the bottom of the frist and the top of the second will be a hot spot of the depth of the OL. The league always overdrafts them relative to the dearth of talent league wide. Even Herenedez, we got him at the top of the second, which is right around where I think a lot of the OL we're talking about in this thread will go. If the strategy if trading back in the first, even to the 20's, that would be cool with me. We'd get an extra second and can have our pick of the players you mentioned earlier. Win/win.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:31:30 GMT -5
He has really, really clean tape. His footwork/awareness is what sets him apart and is most important at the next level, in my opinion. His initial punch is outstanding Not to mention, not a long list of lineman out there that have outstanding tape against Chase Young. A problem we'll be dealing with for the next decade! I don't know, doesn't him being away from football for a year concern you? It seems like every player I can remember who came into the draft not playing there senior year struggled mightily, remained injured and never took off.. i.e. Marvin Austin. I feel the same way about Ruessou these guys are being considered pretty high for not being on a field in a year. idk maybe he's been training hard and conditioning and strenght wont be an issue. It doesn't concern me as he's been grinding with Duke Manyweather all season. Duke's personally vouched for his work ethic and said he's by far the best OL in the draft, his work is very well respected. Marvin Austin couldn't spell work ethic. haha. Rousseau is someone I wouldnt take in the first two rounds. His tape doesn't match the hype. I would say Slater is the opposite of that.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:36:21 GMT -5
Voch does some pretty great analysis. Check this out for a great guide to Slaters play
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:42:16 GMT -5
For me the top 10 OL (as of now) are 1-Vera-Tucker-G 2-Sewell-G 3-Davis-G 4-Jenkins-T 5-Humphrey-C 6-Slater-G 7-Radunz-T 8-Carman-T/G 9-Dickerson-C/G 10-Myers-C I like Davis, Jenkins, and Humphrey, but Slater is better than all of them I disagree, though you can shuffle 3-6 anyway you want as I think they are all about equal, that is my preferred order though. 1 and 2 are interchangable as well. So better way to list it 1-Vera-Tucker-G 1-Sewell-G 3-Davis-G 3-Jenkins-T 3-Humphrey-C 3-Slater-G 7-Radunz-T 8-Carman-T/G 8-Dickerson-C/G 10-Myers-C 10-Darrisaw-T
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 24, 2021 12:45:36 GMT -5
Would be appealing if Sewell dropped past the Bengals. I think he may actually be there at #11 which would be unreal. He should be the pick then i edited my last post late so i’ll put it here i’d probably stay at #11 and go OL yet tempted to be more aggressive with that 2nd pick and go get what i need. i’m temped at this Zaven Collins out of Tulsa although i’m not sure he’ll have the impact a wide receiver can have.
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Post by jmike on Mar 24, 2021 12:47:26 GMT -5
That's fine, I still like many of the other guards available as much or more than him. I figure one of them will still be there in the 2nd. Much like when we drafted Hernandez. There was a very good guard available at the top of the 1st, but a bunch of good ones that I felt would be available in the second. Primarily Smith, which he was and the Giants passed on him....ugh. I think the bottom of the frist and the top of the second will be a hot spot of the depth of the OL. The league always overdrafts them relative to the dearth of talent league wide. Even Herenedez, we got him at the top of the second, which is right around where I think a lot of the OL we're talking about in this thread will go. If the strategy if trading back in the first, even to the 20's, that would be cool with me. We'd get an extra second and can have our pick of the players you mentioned earlier. Win/win. If any one of the top 7 I listed is there for our pick in the 2nd, we would do very well for ourselves. I think at least one of them will be there, which is why I am not keen on spending a high 1st for a guard. At the same time, I wouldn't complain if they did, I never complain about spending picks on OL.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 24, 2021 12:49:29 GMT -5
I think its clear what the FO's plan is. At least, presumably. Draft is where we attack OL All they've been doing is making excellent moves in FA from all positions other than the OL, other than some rumblings about Turner, the Giants didn't attack this problem despite it arguably being their biggest issue. Thomas - Lemieux - Gates - Hernendez - Peart Swing T: Soldier Swing G: ? Backup C: Harrison I dont trust the LG position in Lemieux hands. Its the biggest hole we have on offence. Your OL is as good as its weakest link. Hernendez has potential, but hasn't put it together. Peart is the same and we dont really know what we have. We can't go into the season like this. DJ doesn't have the best pocket awareness and we need to afford him time in the pocket above all else, he will make the plays if given the chance for me: - Draft Slater; or Sewell if either are there at 11. Above all else. - I'd consider Darrisaw at 11, but haven't watched enough of him to be sure. Slater would slide into RG day 1 and be elite, he coud easily play LT/RT and do fine, his initial punch is outstanding and I just watched him dominate Chase Young for 98% of their game. Rag dolled him and kept his QB clean playing LT. I think we could use someone like that, he can play all 5 positions. My number 1 target even over Sewell. This would put Lemieux as a swing guard, if Peart can't play RT you can pencil in Slater there and not bat an eye. If the above options dont work i'd trade down and pick later in the first , however, try and pick up an extra second, if possible. I'd spend 2/3 picks on a OG and OT and take a WR with our extra second Who will stop this offence if we can keep DG upright and open holes for Saquon who lets be honest, doesn't have the best vision? I dont agree with taking a WR #11 and hoping for the best in the lineman in the second. We need to build inside out How do you purpose we fix the issue? No doubt OL dominant with a Nose tackle, WR and RB as other pieces. In another thread I stated I still have confidence that Hernandez has a bounce back and becomes a very solid G. Other than desire I dont see any other reason he cant be. He has show to have the skills. Lemiuex, even if he takes a step forward has lots of work to do at his position to even become just solid. The need depth here big time. Peart.....60/40 he has what it takes to be a good NFL RT. Solder will do ok there and either one who isnt starting will be depth. Thomas will be the player they had in mind when they drafted him. He'll become a top NFL LT. Gates is good to go and will only get better. I'd be in board with Slater at 11 for sure.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 24, 2021 12:51:34 GMT -5
I think the bottom of the frist and the top of the second will be a hot spot of the depth of the OL. The league always overdrafts them relative to the dearth of talent league wide. Even Herenedez, we got him at the top of the second, which is right around where I think a lot of the OL we're talking about in this thread will go. If the strategy if trading back in the first, even to the 20's, that would be cool with me. We'd get an extra second and can have our pick of the players you mentioned earlier. Win/win. If any one of the top 7 I listed is there for our pick in the 2nd, we would do very well for ourselves. I think at least one of them will be there, which is why I am not keen on spending a high 1st for a guard. At the same time, I wouldn't complain if they did, I never complain about spending picks on OL. The OL is one position group where you can never have enough talent or take enough shots in the draft. Especially in this day and age, not lot of talent league wide
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 24, 2021 12:51:56 GMT -5
This latest mock from the mock draft thread I did
11: R1 P11 OT Rashawn Slater - Northwestern
He will be my pick if here until further notice.. If there was another consideration Smith was also there
42: R2 P10 DL Daviyon Nixon - Iowa
My favorite inside D lineman I think..if no trades and Zevon Collins is gone,with the signing of Golladay this pick is now a no brainer
76: R3 P12 WR Dyami Brown - North Carolina
Just missed Eskridge,a lot of nice speed type guys that can be moved all around Eventually replaces Shepard kinda
116: R4 P11 CB Eric Stokes - Georgia
Wasn't looking for a corner at all here..but by the time my pick came up there was a glut of secondary players massed here,Stokes was 25 spots higher on my big board so why not
196: R6 P12 OT Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin
O line depth
201: R6 P17 RB Kylin Hill - Mississippi State
Perfect complement to Barkley
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