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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 30, 2021 18:59:28 GMT -5
lol - Dolphins have a conspiracy through Dallas
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Post by fifthavephil on Apr 30, 2021 19:08:32 GMT -5
Wgat did the Giants get in return , from Miami ?
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Post by moecoastie on Apr 30, 2021 19:12:46 GMT -5
Wgat did the Giants get in return , from Miami ? 2022 3rd
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Post by moecoastie on Apr 30, 2021 19:14:06 GMT -5
I wonder if they would dare trade back in the 2nd round to get a few more later round picks. Guess it depends on their value chart. Moved back again! Judge is running this thing like Belichick hopefully we draft better than BB
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 30, 2021 20:17:22 GMT -5
Moved back again! Judge is running this thing like Belichick hopefully we draft better than BB So far I can't complain. WR and Edge were 2 of my 3 needs. OL is next.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 30, 2021 23:53:22 GMT -5
Dave Gettletrade.. We created a monster. Now, he’s got every team on speed dial, and he’s wheeling and dealing looking for that team to trade back with. I ain’t going to lie. This draft has gone very well. Now, let’s add some depth to the offensive line.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 4:42:38 GMT -5
Smokescreen They're not trading back. 🤔
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 4:47:24 GMT -5
Why is it always you who falls Hook Line and Sinker to this media speculation BS? You are SO gullible. Media tells you X. You believe X. You fall for the okie doke every single time. Don't you get tired of getting played by the media? Wake up. 🤔 Not only did we trade back, we waited for that pass rusher our defense never uses, and a pass rusher that ...attacks the outside shoulder when using the rip and dip move Thankfully not my investment manager
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 1, 2021 6:21:54 GMT -5
Dave Gettletrade.. We created a monster. Now, he’s got every team on speed dial, and he’s wheeling and dealing looking for that team to trade back with. I ain’t going to lie. This draft has gone very well. Now, let’s add some depth to the offensive line. You crazy if you think this is Dave.
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 8:19:41 GMT -5
Dave Gettletrade.. We created a monster. Now, he’s got every team on speed dial, and he’s wheeling and dealing looking for that team to trade back with. I ain’t going to lie. This draft has gone very well. Now, let’s add some depth to the offensive line. You crazy if you think this is Dave. I’m crazy to think the general manager of our team had any influence in trading back? Come on, I’m no fan of Gettleman. But, you’re insane to start to believe everything you read on here. Dave is the GM, he doesn’t answer to Judge. If Gettleman feels trading back will net us a player of value. He will make pull the trigger. What’s crazy is a fan base got the idea that a coach who is still wet behind the ears is controlling the war room of this franchise. “Trader Dave” has been in this business a hair under the amount of years Judge has been alive. Again, let’s give credit where credit is due.
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Post by GameTime on May 1, 2021 8:24:21 GMT -5
Dave Gettletrade.. We created a monster. Now, he’s got every team on speed dial, and he’s wheeling and dealing looking for that team to trade back with. I ain’t going to lie. This draft has gone very well. Now, let’s add some depth to the offensive line. You crazy if you think this is Dave. why? are you in the meeting rooms? Dave is part of the process plain and simple
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Post by GameTime on May 1, 2021 8:28:50 GMT -5
You crazy if you think this is Dave. I’m crazy to think the general manager of our team had any influence in trading back? Come on, I’m no fan of Gettleman. But, you’re insane to start to believe everything you read on here. Dave is the GM, he doesn’t answer to Judge. If Gettleman feels trading back will net us a player of value. He will make pull the trigger. What’s crazy is a fan base got the idea that a coach who is still wet behind the ears is controlling the war room of this franchise. “Trader Dave” has been in this business a hair under the amount of years Judge has been alive. Again, let’s give credit where credit is due. Dave is learning to make "right turns in NASCAAHH"...
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 8:34:09 GMT -5
I’m crazy to think the general manager of our team had any influence in trading back? Come on, I’m no fan of Gettleman. But, you’re insane to start to believe everything you read on here. Dave is the GM, he doesn’t answer to Judge. If Gettleman feels trading back will net us a player of value. He will make pull the trigger. What’s crazy is a fan base got the idea that a coach who is still wet behind the ears is controlling the war room of this franchise. “Trader Dave” has been in this business a hair under the amount of years Judge has been alive. Again, let’s give credit where credit is due. Dave is learning to make "right turns in NASCAAHH"... Who says an old dog can’t learn new tricks?
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Post by GameTime on May 1, 2021 8:34:57 GMT -5
Dave is learning to make "right turns in NASCAAHH"... Who says an old dog can’t learn new tricks? says a lot about the process and how it evolves and changes.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 1, 2021 8:39:34 GMT -5
You crazy if you think this is Dave. I’m crazy to think the general manager of our team had any influence in trading back? Come on, I’m no fan of Gettleman. But, you’re insane to start to believe everything you read on here. Dave is the GM, he doesn’t answer to Judge. If Gettleman feels trading back will net us a player of value. He will make pull the trigger. What’s crazy is a fan base got the idea that a coach who is still wet behind the ears is controlling the war room of this franchise. “Trader Dave” has been in this business a hair under the amount of years Judge has been alive. Again, let’s give credit where credit is due. I don't think it is any coincidence as soon as Judge came here and got established, we are drafting like Belichick does normally. Just connecting the dots. I believe Judge is the man with the juice now after this draft. Wasnt sure about it before, but trading back not once but 2x makes me believe so. Side note, of course Gettleman still has some say. He is the GM.
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 8:39:51 GMT -5
Who says an old dog can’t learn new tricks? says a lot about the process and how it evolves and changes. Normally, people his age don’t change. They’re so deep rooted with how they do things, that they don’t see that the times are changing. Maybe, he’s seeing that to be successful in today’s NFL, you have to go against what you were doing for so long. Or, this Dave is actually a robot. And the real Dave is locked up in a basement watching Looney Tunes. Either way, I like it..
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 8:44:42 GMT -5
I’m crazy to think the general manager of our team had any influence in trading back? Come on, I’m no fan of Gettleman. But, you’re insane to start to believe everything you read on here. Dave is the GM, he doesn’t answer to Judge. If Gettleman feels trading back will net us a player of value. He will make pull the trigger. What’s crazy is a fan base got the idea that a coach who is still wet behind the ears is controlling the war room of this franchise. “Trader Dave” has been in this business a hair under the amount of years Judge has been alive. Again, let’s give credit where credit is due. I don't think it is any coincidence as soon as Judge came here and got established, we are drafting like Belichick does normally. Just connecting the dots. I believe Judge is the man with the juice now after this draft. Wasnt sure about it before, but trading back not once but 2x makes me believe so. Side note, of course Gettleman still has some say. He is the GM. Doesn’t Belichick suck as a GM? All I see that the Giants are doing is trading back, and selecting need over best players available. Nothing different then we normally have done. Remember, Dave is loathed here, besides a few loyal Gettlemanics, most of the fan base would drive him to the airport and buy his ticket. Any way to discredit him and put the praise on Judge. See, now you got me into defending Gettleman. There’s not enough soap to wash this stain off me.
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Post by GameTime on May 1, 2021 8:46:36 GMT -5
says a lot about the process and how it evolves and changes. Normally, people his age don’t change. They’re so deep rooted with how they do things, that they don’t see that the times are changing. Maybe, he’s seeing that to be successful in today’s NFL, you have to go against what you were doing for so long. Or, this Dave is actually a robot. And the real Dave is locked up in a basement watching Looney Tunes. Either way, I like it.. if its actually a grop effort then change happens organically. Or like you said he as seen the light!!
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 1, 2021 8:47:46 GMT -5
I don't think it is any coincidence as soon as Judge came here and got established, we are drafting like Belichick does normally. Just connecting the dots. I believe Judge is the man with the juice now after this draft. Wasnt sure about it before, but trading back not once but 2x makes me believe so. Side note, of course Gettleman still has some say. He is the GM. Doesn’t Belichick suck as a GM? All I see that the Giants are doing is trading back, and selecting need over best players available. Nothing different then we normally have done. Remember, Dave is loathed here, besides a few loyal Gettlemanics, most of the fan base would drive him to the airport and buy his ticket. Any way to discredit him and put the praise on Judge. See, now you got me into defending Gettleman. There’s not enough soap to wash this stain off me. Uh, what? No. His picks might not always pan out but he far from sucks as a GM. Bill O Brian sucked as a GM. This is not something we "normally have done". In fact, Gettleman has never done it. Not here, not in Carolina. Do you really think this is the face of a man who just didnt get his BLT made correctly? No, he got overruled. That room looks tense as hell like there was a huge disagreement.
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 8:48:46 GMT -5
Normally, people his age don’t change. They’re so deep rooted with how they do things, that they don’t see that the times are changing. Maybe, he’s seeing that to be successful in today’s NFL, you have to go against what you were doing for so long. Or, this Dave is actually a robot. And the real Dave is locked up in a basement watching Looney Tunes. Either way, I like it.. if its actually a grop effort then change happens organically. Or like you said he as seen the light!! I’m on a roll here. Giving credit to Dave, and you had to go and mess it all up.
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Post by GameTime on May 1, 2021 8:50:26 GMT -5
if its actually a grop effort then change happens organically. Or like you said he as seen the light!! I’m on a roll here. Giving credit to Dave, and you had to go and mess it all up. me? You did mention he may be a robot
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 9:11:40 GMT -5
Doesn’t Belichick suck as a GM? All I see that the Giants are doing is trading back, and selecting need over best players available. Nothing different then we normally have done. Remember, Dave is loathed here, besides a few loyal Gettlemanics, most of the fan base would drive him to the airport and buy his ticket. Any way to discredit him and put the praise on Judge. See, now you got me into defending Gettleman. There’s not enough soap to wash this stain off me. Uh, what? No. His picks might not always pan out but he far from sucks as a GM. Bill O Brian sucked as a GM. This is not something we "normally have done". In fact, Gettleman has never done it. Not here, not in Carolina. Do you really think this is the face of a man who just didnt get his BLT made correctly? No, he got overruled. That room looks tense as hell like there was a huge disagreement. You might be the only person outside New England who thinks he’s a good GM. He’s lucky he’s giving those players to the best coach that has ever lived. Himself.. “Normally have done”, is pertaining to drafting need over value. We have always been a franchise that drafts best player available, now we’re going for need. The trading back has shown that. I’m not a lip reader, so it’s difficult to gauge what’s going on. Other than, a bunch of executives are pacing. I’m sure in the war room tensions get high, and emotions run wild.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 9:24:48 GMT -5
I know we are hearing about trading back, and getting an edge or Darrisaw, Vera-Tucker...but what about this guy? ...just showing that some of us college ball and draft junkies hanging around in this subforum.... including Analyst, GL, Kase TCHOF jmike and especially nygfanstrick... who gets all of us studying many players we have never heard of...we have all heard about Toney, watched Toney and wanted him with a trade back. Now go bake us a cake.
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 9:50:35 GMT -5
I know we are hearing about trading back, and getting an edge or Darrisaw, Vera-Tucker...but what about this guy? ...just showing that some of us college ball and draft junkies hanging around in this subforum.... including Analyst, GL, Kase TCHOF jmike and especially nygfanstrick... who gets all of us studying many players we have never heard of...we have all heard about Toney, watched Toney and wanted him with a trade back. Now go bake us a cake. I give you guys a lot of credit. It’s very difficult to post after patting yourselves on the back for so long.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 1, 2021 10:46:48 GMT -5
Uh, what? No. His picks might not always pan out but he far from sucks as a GM. Bill O Brian sucked as a GM. This is not something we "normally have done". In fact, Gettleman has never done it. Not here, not in Carolina. Do you really think this is the face of a man who just didnt get his BLT made correctly? No, he got overruled. That room looks tense as hell like there was a huge disagreement. You might be the only person outside New England who thinks he’s a good GM. He’s lucky he’s giving those players to the best coach that has ever lived. Himself.. “Normally have done”, is pertaining to drafting need over value. We have always been a franchise that drafts best player available, now we’re going for need. The trading back has shown that. I’m not a lip reader, so it’s difficult to gauge what’s going on. Other than, a bunch of executives are pacing. I’m sure in the war room tensions get high, and emotions run wild. That's the craziest thing I've heard since someone told me edge rushers aren't needed in our scheme. Being a GM doesn't stop with drafting players, although he hasn't been terrible at that as most here think. Being a GM requires maneuvering cap space to stay elite for 20 years. Gathering the right Free Agents. Playing mind games with the NFL and being uniquely creative so much that people think you are constantly cheating. Collecting a great coaching staff year after year. And yes, the HC Belichick squeezes the best out of every player he can. Don't bad mouth the GOAT krunch. Lol
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 1, 2021 10:48:18 GMT -5
...just showing that some of us college ball and draft junkies hanging around in this subforum.... including Analyst, GL, Kase TCHOF jmike and especially nygfanstrick... who gets all of us studying many players we have never heard of...we have all heard about Toney, watched Toney and wanted him with a trade back. Now go bake us a cake. I give you guys a lot of credit. It’s very difficult to post after patting yourselves on the back for so long. Josh Rosen would have been a great QB in the right system.... enough! :-)
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Post by robl on May 1, 2021 10:54:54 GMT -5
I give you guys a lot of credit. It’s very difficult to post after patting yourselves on the back for so long. Josh Rosen would have been a great QB in the right system.... enough! :-) We’ll never know. Interesting to see if Darnold makes something happen with a fresh team.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 1, 2021 10:57:05 GMT -5
Josh Rosen would have been a great QB in the right system.... enough! :-) We’ll never know. Interesting to see if Darnold makes something happen with a fresh team. I would not rule that out, not pun intended. He has talent. His freshman year at USC was pretty amazing.
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Post by Kruunch on May 1, 2021 11:16:21 GMT -5
You might be the only person outside New England who thinks he’s a good GM. He’s lucky he’s giving those players to the best coach that has ever lived. Himself.. “Normally have done”, is pertaining to drafting need over value. We have always been a franchise that drafts best player available, now we’re going for need. The trading back has shown that. I’m not a lip reader, so it’s difficult to gauge what’s going on. Other than, a bunch of executives are pacing. I’m sure in the war room tensions get high, and emotions run wild. That's the craziest thing I've heard since someone told me edge rushers aren't needed in our scheme. Being a GM doesn't stop with drafting players, although he hasn't been terrible at that as most here think. Being a GM requires maneuvering cap space to stay elite for 20 years. Gathering the right Free Agents. Playing mind games with the NFL and being uniquely creative so much that people think you are constantly cheating. Collecting a great coaching staff year after year. And yes, the HC Belichick squeezes the best out of every player he can. Don't bad mouth the GOAT krunch. Lol I’ve seen what you’ve posted over the years. I’ll be lucky to crack your top 10. It’s not that outlandish to say he’s been an average GM over the years. Has he ever drafted a good receiver ? Look at his drafts over the years, they’ve been subpar. He’s without a doubt one of the best head coaches this league has ever seen, and he gets every ounce out of every player. But his drafts, are nothing to brag about.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 1, 2021 11:22:33 GMT -5
That's the craziest thing I've heard since someone told me edge rushers aren't needed in our scheme. Being a GM doesn't stop with drafting players, although he hasn't been terrible at that as most here think. Being a GM requires maneuvering cap space to stay elite for 20 years. Gathering the right Free Agents. Playing mind games with the NFL and being uniquely creative so much that people think you are constantly cheating. Collecting a great coaching staff year after year. And yes, the HC Belichick squeezes the best out of every player he can. Don't bad mouth the GOAT krunch. Lol I’ve seen what you’ve posted over the years. I’ll be lucky to crack your top 10. It’s not that outlandish to say he’s been an average GM over the years. Has he ever drafted a good receiver ? Look at his drafts over the years, they’ve been subpar. He’s without a doubt one of the best head coaches this league has ever seen, and he gets every ounce out of every player. But his drafts, are nothing to brag about. Julian Francis Edelman? Rob Gronkowski? He did draft Tom Brady.
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