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Post by nyg2 on Jun 1, 2021 11:12:29 GMT -5
Ironically, Max Kellerman had the more level-headed take this time around by saying Daniel Jones has the pieces around him to have his best season yet. Stephen A. Smith on the other hand, I guess was trying to be "edgy" and said that Daniel Jones will be the worst QB in the NFC East.
Even at Daniel Jones worst he's still a better passer and overall QB than Jalen Hurts, who's literally a one read QB before just taking off. I think with the weapons we added and with what we currently already have, you could definitely make the argument that he will be better than Ryan Fitzpatrick who you can count on being consistently inconsistent whenever he's starting. That by default makes him the second best QB in the NFC East right behind Dak Prescott.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 11:17:45 GMT -5
Riveting..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 11:23:38 GMT -5
I don’t listen to him. I don’t like him. He is a prick.
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Post by GameTime on Jun 1, 2021 11:31:37 GMT -5
Maybe yes at this point and its because of the 11 TDs last season and he 51 fumbles/picks in 27 games.
I cant stand Stephen A and he is a attention whore but........
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Post by Martin on Jun 1, 2021 11:47:39 GMT -5
Maybe yes at this point and its because of the 11 TDs last season and he 51 fumbles/picks in 27 games. I cant stand Stephen A and he is a attention whore but........ Things change very fast in the NFL including Steven A's opinion.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jun 1, 2021 11:49:41 GMT -5
Ironically, Max Kellerman had the more level-headed take this time around by saying Daniel Jones has the pieces around him to have his best season yet. Stephen A. Smith on the other hand, I guess was trying to be "edgy" and said that Daniel Jones will be the worst QB in the NFC East. Even at Daniel Jones worst he's still a better passer and overall QB than Jalen Hurts, who's literally a one read QB before just taking off. I think with the weapons we added and with what we currently already have, you could definitely make the argument that he will be better than Ryan Fitzpatrick who you can count on being consistently inconsistent whenever he's starting. That by default makes him the second best QB in the NFC East right behind Dak Prescott. Stephen A Smith one of the dumbest sports wise anyway to be in the business, half the time he doesn't know what and sometimes even who or what team they are on when he is talking about a subject he has the talent level one a Kardashian, Only he use stupid out lands a foolish takes to get listeners who would listen to these 2 fools Kellerman is a boxing guy and sucks at that to.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jun 1, 2021 11:50:32 GMT -5
Maybe yes at this point and its because of the 11 TDs last season and he 51 fumbles/picks in 27 games. I cant stand Stephen A and he is a attention whore but........ Things change very fast in the NFL including Steven A's opinion. LOL he's a moron and Kellerman is like Igor.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 1, 2021 12:01:10 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there.
So,
Dak Fitz Hurts Jones
Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong.
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Post by GameTime on Jun 1, 2021 12:06:06 GMT -5
Maybe yes at this point and its because of the 11 TDs last season and he 51 fumbles/picks in 27 games. I cant stand Stephen A and he is a attention whore but........ Things change very fast in the NFL including Steven A's opinion. Lets hope so. I am all in with Jones and have confidence he will get it together
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Post by jb456 on Jun 1, 2021 12:07:05 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there. So, Dak Fitz Hurts Jones Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong. He isn't wrong. Until proven otherwise, Daniel Jones is the worst QB in the East especially coming off of last years horrific performance. I don't see how anyone would be upset by hearing the truth. This is Daniel Jones's last year to prove he is a franchise QB. If he fails, the Giants will be drafting his replacement (if they like a QB in the 2022 draft) or they will bring in a veteran to compete for the starting job and target a QB in 2023.
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Post by Morehead State on Jun 1, 2021 12:07:46 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there. So, Dak Fitz Hurts Jones Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong. I see nothing other than mediocre from Jalen Hurts. He's played 4 games and I can't think of any aspect of his game that is exceptional. To me his upside is between a mediocre starter and a decent back up.
Equivalent........Seneca Wallace.
There is really only one established starting QB in the division. So Dak is head and shoulders better than anyone else in the division. Obviously Jones is the biggest uncertainty. He is in a "prove it" season. He's obviously not done that yet.
So I would say...
1. Dak
Then a huge gap....
2. Fitz 3. Jones 4. Hurts.
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Post by jimmieray on Jun 1, 2021 12:08:55 GMT -5
Maybe yes at this point and its because of the 11 TDs last season and he 51 fumbles/picks in 27 games. I cant stand Stephen A and he is a attention whore but........ Things change very fast in the NFL including Steven A's opinion. We've seen Prescott in the playoffs, and we've seen Fitzpatrick when the playoffs are on the line. We haven't seen Jones yet, in this type situation.
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Post by McCherry on Jun 1, 2021 12:13:44 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there. So, Dak Fitz Hurts Jones Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong. I like Fitz, nice guy... Starting QB? That's pretty funny. Jalen Hurts, 6 TD, 4 INT 52% completion percentage... How exactly did he surpass Jones in his 5 minutes as a starting QB? According to this logic you might as well just say Jones is the worst QB in football.
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Post by jb456 on Jun 1, 2021 12:13:51 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there. So, Dak Fitz Hurts Jones Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong. I see nothing other than mediocre from Jalen Hurts. He's played 4 games and I can't think of any aspect of his game that is exceptional. To me his upside is between a mediocre starter and a decent back up.
Equivalent........Seneca Wallace.
There is really only one established starting QB in the division. So Dak is head and shoulders better than anyone else in the division. Obviously Jones is the biggest uncertainty. He is in a "prove it" season. He's obviously not done that yet.
So I would say...
1. Dak
Then a huge gap....
2. Fitz 3. Jones 4. Hurts.
Nothing wrong with what you said here but 3 and 4 could be seen as interchangeable since Hurts only had 4 games in the NFL and Jones is coming off a bad 2nd year, a year in which he regressed in some important categories (He also improved in a few).
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 1, 2021 12:16:11 GMT -5
Things change very fast in the NFL including Steven A's opinion. We've seen Prescott in the playoffs, and we've seen Fitzpatrick when the playoffs are on the line. We haven't seen Jones yet, in this type situation. Playoffs on the line last year with this pathetic group of WRs he actually did quite well TBH...a perfectly thrown pass that was dropped by Engram is what kept us out from mid season
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Post by jb456 on Jun 1, 2021 12:17:29 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there. So, Dak Fitz Hurts Jones Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong. I like Fitz, nice guy... Starting QB? That's pretty funny. Jalen Hurts, 6 TD, 4 INT 52% completion percentage... How exactly is he superior to Jones? Jones had 11 TD's and 10 INT's, which is significantly worse that 6 / 4 percentage wise. Like I mentioned before, I believe Jones has more potential but that potential hasn't really shown itself so you can't really say that Jones is head and shoulders better than Hurts at this point. Do I think he is? Yes, has it been shown on the field in terms of results, nope. I really do think Jones will have an up year this year so the Giants should do a lot better.
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Post by jb456 on Jun 1, 2021 12:21:28 GMT -5
We've seen Prescott in the playoffs, and we've seen Fitzpatrick when the playoffs are on the line. We haven't seen Jones yet, in this type situation. Playoffs on the line last year with this pathetic group of WRs he actually did quite well TBH...a perfectly thrown pass that was dropped by Engram is what kept us out from mid season What are you talking about? Engram is a 2020 probowler and the man!
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Post by McCherry on Jun 1, 2021 12:25:38 GMT -5
I like Fitz, nice guy... Starting QB? That's pretty funny. Jalen Hurts, 6 TD, 4 INT 52% completion percentage... How exactly is he superior to Jones? Jones had 11 TD's and 10 INT's, which is significantly worse that 6 / 4 percentage wise. Like I mentioned before, I believe Jones has more potential but that potential hasn't really shown itself so you can't really say that Jones is head and shoulders better than Hurts at this point. Do I think he is? Yes, has it been shown on the field in terms of results, nope. I really do think Jones will have an up year this year so the Giants should do a lot better. I can definitely say Jones is a better QB than Hurts at this point.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 1, 2021 12:34:21 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there. So, Dak Fitz Hurts Jones Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong. I like Fitz, nice guy... Starting QB? That's pretty funny. Jalen Hurts, 6 TD, 4 INT 52% completion percentage... How exactly did he surpass Jones in his 5 minutes as a starting QB? According to this logic you might as well just say Jones is the worst QB in football. Well, its about the same amount of "analysis". We only know about two of these guy sand based on all we know, one is better and one might be but it's hard to say. Prescott Jones/Fitz Hurts
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 1, 2021 12:38:08 GMT -5
Ill be honenst, I couldn't think of the QB for the Redskins. I forgot Fitzmagic is now there. So, Dak Fitz Hurts Jones Id say right about now, he probably isnt wrong. I like Fitz, nice guy... Starting QB? That's pretty funny. Jalen Hurts, 6 TD, 4 INT 52% completion percentage... How exactly did he surpass Jones in his 5 minutes as a starting QB? According to this logic you might as well just say Jones is the worst QB in football. That wasn't my ranking I was just putting the names up there. I do think Dak is QB #1. I think Fitz as of right now is better than Jones, only due to experience. Hurts isnt much as of now, I agree. He looked good in some games but such a small sample size, which is why they brought in Flacco too. Id put the last 3 neck and neck IMO. Im not hating on someone saying Jones is the worst QB of the bunch right now. Its an opinion and its not like Jones is knocking socks off.
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Post by Martin on Jun 1, 2021 12:55:29 GMT -5
Things change very fast in the NFL including Steven A's opinion. We've seen Prescott in the playoffs, and we've seen Fitzpatrick when the playoffs are on the line. We haven't seen Jones yet, in this type situation. It would be nice to see the Giants in the playoffs. As far as Jones goes there are no more excuses unless this oline completely unravels.
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Post by Martin on Jun 1, 2021 12:58:01 GMT -5
We've seen Prescott in the playoffs, and we've seen Fitzpatrick when the playoffs are on the line. We haven't seen Jones yet, in this type situation. Playoffs on the line last year with this pathetic group of WRs he actually did quite well TBH...a perfectly thrown pass that was dropped by Engram is what kept us out from mid season I would venture to say that almost all of the board members here would have caught that pass. I remember being so pissed that he dropped that.
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Post by Martin on Jun 1, 2021 12:59:47 GMT -5
Jones had 11 TD's and 10 INT's, which is significantly worse that 6 / 4 percentage wise. Like I mentioned before, I believe Jones has more potential but that potential hasn't really shown itself so you can't really say that Jones is head and shoulders better than Hurts at this point. Do I think he is? Yes, has it been shown on the field in terms of results, nope. I really do think Jones will have an up year this year so the Giants should do a lot better. I can definitely say Jones is a better QB than Hurts at this point. I agree - Hurts is gonna get hurt. He's not a pocket guy at least not yet.
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Post by Dezzr on Jun 1, 2021 13:01:09 GMT -5
Cant stand Screamin A Smith. Hope Jones proves him wrong
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 13:02:32 GMT -5
I can definitely say Jones is a better QB than Hurts at this point. I agree - Hurts is gonna get hurt. He's not a pocket guy at least not yet. And Jones isn't going to get hurt?? He's 2 for 2 just saying..
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Post by Jomo on Jun 1, 2021 13:08:35 GMT -5
Whatever.....
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Post by idkaname on Jun 1, 2021 13:13:25 GMT -5
I agree - Hurts is gonna get hurt. He's not a pocket guy at least not yet. And Jones isn't going to get hurt?? He's 2 for 2 just saying.. so is mahomes...it’s the nature of the position, especially guys that use their legs more often. Not every QB can be Eli
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Post by idkaname on Jun 1, 2021 13:16:52 GMT -5
Lol eagles fans are saying Hurts will be a top 10 QB based of 4 average(one could argue below average) games
Yet are saying jones is a dud
Jones showed WAY more as a rookie than Jalen
First rookie QB with 350+ passing yards and 5+ TD in a single game. (Not to mention only Qb to do it against Washington that year) give him time and weapons and he produces. I’d bet having a healthy Barkley was the key to this cuz his weapons weren’t even half as good as they will be this year
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Post by nyg2 on Jun 1, 2021 13:23:09 GMT -5
Maybe yes at this point and its because of the 11 TDs last season and he 51 fumbles/picks in 27 games. I cant stand Stephen A and he is a attention whore but........ Even so, Jalen Hurts isn't a better QB than Daniel Jones.
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Post by GameTime on Jun 1, 2021 13:35:10 GMT -5
Maybe yes at this point and its because of the 11 TDs last season and he 51 fumbles/picks in 27 games. I cant stand Stephen A and he is a attention whore but........ Even so, Jalen Hurts isn't a better QB than Daniel Jones. Yeah I get that....but its Stephan A
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