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Post by snyder55 on Jun 4, 2021 9:17:39 GMT -5
Well when people jump up and down and say we are racist for making such a horrible decision and taking this one guy (that may or may not be good) instead of this other guy (that may or may not be good) then those talking heads must stick with that initial reaction until they are proven right and can rub it in everyones face or until they are proven wrong and they can change the subject. Wait is this about Jones or Judge....same difference. people today whether they are white or black bring in the race card because it makes good reading and draws attention to their point....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 14:05:36 GMT -5
in my minimal social media travelings, ive seen so much hate for the giants, and so much love about us sucking. people DONT WANT us to be good. im on a couple football groups of fans from all over the league and we are an absolute laughing stock, and any perceived improvements are met with jokes and 'they still totally suck' rightfully so perhaps, but noones gonna see us coming....
its going to be sooooooooo rewarding/gratifying when we really start playing well and winning.
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Post by snyder55 on Jun 4, 2021 15:50:20 GMT -5
What makes Patrick Daugherty an expert? Never heard of the guy "expert" is a term used very loosely these days, people no longer have to be an expert to be called one...
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Post by SG88 on Jun 4, 2021 19:23:15 GMT -5
Is it cool if we call this the one of the worst articles this offseason? It is only fair.....
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Post by DandyDon on Jun 4, 2021 19:24:44 GMT -5
What makes Patrick Daugherty an expert? Never heard of the guy Right?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 7:21:33 GMT -5
Not commenting on the person who made the list...or the snippets of they why they like/dislike each coach....but I personally found the list fairly accurate.
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Post by Kruunch on Jun 5, 2021 8:21:19 GMT -5
Not commenting on the person who made the list...or the snippets of they why they like/dislike each coach....but I personally found the list fairly accurate. Agreed. Again, it’s an opinion. Did anyone think a 6-10 head coach deserves to be any higher? Talking great in front of a camera doesn’t put you in the top 15. Wins do..
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Post by TCHOF on Jun 5, 2021 9:15:27 GMT -5
Not commenting on the person who made the list...or the snippets of they why they like/dislike each coach....but I personally found the list fairly accurate. Agreed. Again, it’s an opinion. Did anyone think a 6-10 head coach deserves to be any higher? Talking great in front of a camera doesn’t put you in the top 15. Wins do.. A 6-10 HC deserves to be higher than 0-0 HC’s
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Post by imgrate on Jun 5, 2021 9:30:47 GMT -5
Agreed. Again, it’s an opinion. Did anyone think a 6-10 head coach deserves to be any higher? Talking great in front of a camera doesn’t put you in the top 15. Wins do.. A 6-10 HC deserves to be higher than 0-0 HC’s He is. The rankings had the new coaches in a separate group
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Post by Kruunch on Jun 5, 2021 9:42:26 GMT -5
A 6-10 HC deserves to be higher than 0-0 HC’s He is. The rankings had the new coaches in a separate group Exactly. The lists consists of 25 head coaches who had coached last year. To put the other 7 coaches on that list would be idiotic.
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Post by TEM on Jun 5, 2021 9:43:29 GMT -5
Agreed. Again, it’s an opinion. Did anyone think a 6-10 head coach deserves to be any higher? Talking great in front of a camera doesn’t put you in the top 15. Wins do.. A 6-10 HC deserves to be higher than 0-0 HC’s A 29 -35 HC sub 500 (.453) should be ranked higher than a .583, 813, 506, 604, 688, 583 , 600, 509 A 15-17 HC sub 500 (.469) should be ranked higher than a 583, 600, 509 A 5-11 HC sub 350 (.313) should be ranked higher than a 600, 422, 509, 375 , 375 It was not based upon record. If it was it would have some base to show that to be true. It was based upon who he likes the most at that point on his list.
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Post by snyder55 on Jun 5, 2021 9:51:33 GMT -5
Not sure why you would give this schmuck attention TEM. These A-holes need to be called out. This is one of the reasons the media is getting away with what they do. No one has the balls to stand up to them and call it what it is. I couldn't have said this better, good job...
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 5, 2021 9:57:23 GMT -5
Not commenting on the person who made the list...or the snippets of they why they like/dislike each coach....but I personally found the list fairly accurate. I didn’t read it with any kind of standard in mind but found myself kinda checking out mentally at #3. That was quite enough for me. The rest seemed like an ordinary game of 52 pickup. Throw the names on the table, pick the, up one at a time and add a short blurb. Meh... It’s not that I don’t care about other people’s feelings, I just realized I don’t care about Bobby Daugherty’s feelings.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 5, 2021 9:58:02 GMT -5
A 6-10 HC deserves to be higher than 0-0 HC’s A 29 -35 HC sub 500 (.453) should be ranked higher than a .583, 813, 506, 604, 688, 583 , 600, 509 A 15-17 HC sub 500 (.469) should be ranked higher than a 583, 600, 509 A 5-11 HC sub 350 (.313) should be ranked higher than a 600, 422, 509, 375 , 375 It was not based upon record. If it was it would have some base to show that to be true. It was based upon who he likes the most at that point on his list. From what I read it’s not based on anything.
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Post by TEM on Jun 5, 2021 10:02:28 GMT -5
A 29 -35 HC sub 500 (.453) should be ranked higher than a .583, 813, 506, 604, 688, 583 , 600, 509 A 15-17 HC sub 500 (.469) should be ranked higher than a 583, 600, 509 A 5-11 HC sub 350 (.313) should be ranked higher than a 600, 422, 509, 375 , 375 It was not based upon record. If it was it would have some base to show that to be true. It was based upon who he likes the most at that point on his list. For, what I read it’s not based on anything. Wouldn't that be the same as you or I using popularity as a base line to rate QBs. IMO: That would be based upon nothing tangible.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 5, 2021 11:07:18 GMT -5
For, what I read it’s not based on anything. Wouldn't that be the same as you or I using popularity as a base line to rate QBs. IMO: That would be based upon nothing tangible. Yes. And that is the basis for most football advanced analytics Other than straight reporting of data, tangible activities etc...it’s really a reporting of feelings. Not surprisingly, most lists/reports that purport to analyze this stuff are really just reporting the standings. It’s by far the safest route.
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Post by TCHOF on Jun 5, 2021 12:19:15 GMT -5
A 6-10 HC deserves to be higher than 0-0 HC’s He is. The rankings had the new coaches in a separate group My bad ... was thinking of a different list
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Post by Roosevelt on Jun 5, 2021 12:42:45 GMT -5
Not sure why you would give this schmuck attention TEM. These A-holes need to be called out. This is one of the reasons the media is getting away with what they do. No one has the balls to stand up to them and call it what it is. It’s click bait and nothing more. No one with half a brain would write such a thing.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jun 5, 2021 12:45:34 GMT -5
in my minimal social media travelings, ive seen so much hate for the giants, and so much love about us sucking. people DONT WANT us to be good. im on a couple football groups of fans from all over the league and we are an absolute laughing stock, and any perceived improvements are met with jokes and 'they still totally suck' rightfully so perhaps, but noones gonna see us coming.... its going to be sooooooooo rewarding/gratifying when we really start playing well and winning. I was surprised by how disliked we are. I think a lot of it has to do with this idea of John Mara capitalizing on his father’s legacy.
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Post by TEM on Jun 5, 2021 12:51:05 GMT -5
These A-holes need to be called out. This is one of the reasons the media is getting away with what they do. No one has the balls to stand up to them and call it what it is. It’s click bait and nothing more. No one with half a brain would write such a thing. I agree but these nitwits need to be put back under their rock .
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 5, 2021 13:15:47 GMT -5
It’s click bait and nothing more. No one with half a brain would write such a thing. I agree but these nitwits need to be put back under their rock . Eh...everybody's gotta earn a living.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 14:05:26 GMT -5
Not commenting on the person who made the list...or the snippets of they why they like/dislike each coach....but I personally found the list fairly accurate. I didn’t read it with any kind of standard in mind but found myself kinda checking out mentally at #3. That was quite enough for me. The rest seemed like an ordinary game of 52 pickup. Throw the names on the table, pick the, up one at a time and add a short blurb. Meh... It’s not that I don’t care about other people’s feelings, I just realized I don’t care about Bobby Daugherty’s feelings. Meh....just an opinion of last years coaches from whomever... and probably around where I'd have Judge at this point. Hardly worth losing any sleep over...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 14:15:13 GMT -5
in my minimal social media travelings, ive seen so much hate for the giants, and so much love about us sucking. people DONT WANT us to be good. im on a couple football groups of fans from all over the league and we are an absolute laughing stock, and any perceived improvements are met with jokes and 'they still totally suck' rightfully so perhaps, but noones gonna see us coming.... its going to be sooooooooo rewarding/gratifying when we really start playing well and winning. I was surprised by how disliked we are. I think a lot of it has to do with this idea of John Mara capitalizing on his father’s legacy. To be fair...Vegas odds have been fairly on point with wins each year...might say they have no like or dislike in the equation vs any team. Yet, there we are each year, no playoffs, and a good draft pick. They have us at I believe 7 this year...that's all the green like/dislike needed to be known Last I read, we were also underdogs in every game we played but 3...and they are taking bets now.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jun 5, 2021 14:18:49 GMT -5
I agree but these nitwits need to be put back under their rock . Eh...everybody's gotta earn a living. True, but he should go back to his previous job as a telemarketer.
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Post by snyder55 on Jun 5, 2021 15:05:29 GMT -5
todays sports writers and sports casters all seem to be trying to impress people by how controversial they can be, just trying to draw attention to themselves and the product their sponsors are selling...
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Post by Roosevelt on Jun 5, 2021 20:01:48 GMT -5
I was surprised by how disliked we are. I think a lot of it has to do with this idea of John Mara capitalizing on his father’s legacy. To be fair...Vegas odds have been fairly on point with wins each year...might say they have no like or dislike in the equation vs any team. Yet, there we are each year, no playoffs, and a good draft pick. They have us at I believe 7 this year...that's all the green like/dislike needed to be known Last I read, we were also underdogs in every game we played but 3...and they are taking bets now. I wasn't talking about odds makers. I was talking about football fans in general.
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Post by idkaname on Jun 5, 2021 22:32:18 GMT -5
in my minimal social media travelings, ive seen so much hate for the giants, and so much love about us sucking. people DONT WANT us to be good. im on a couple football groups of fans from all over the league and we are an absolute laughing stock, and any perceived improvements are met with jokes and 'they still totally suck' rightfully so perhaps, but noones gonna see us coming.... its going to be sooooooooo rewarding/gratifying when we really start playing well and winning. the people that say that aren’t football fans. Theyre bandwagoners. People that watch the best sport in the world when the team they want to succeed does...how is that even fun?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 5:27:00 GMT -5
To be fair...Vegas odds have been fairly on point with wins each year...might say they have no like or dislike in the equation vs any team. Yet, there we are each year, no playoffs, and a good draft pick. They have us at I believe 7 this year...that's all the green like/dislike needed to be known Last I read, we were also underdogs in every game we played but 3...and they are taking bets now. I wasn't talking about odds makers. I was talking about football fans in general. Oh, thought you were referring to an article ranking coaches. Not sure about football fans hating the Giants....sure in Dallas, DC and Filthy....they are probably running the same hate polls we do. In my experiences wearing my Giant gear and cap all over the earth, not much hatred. Maybe the media? My point was any listings of this team on the bad side is indeed warranted .... and has been proven. Do I believe we are the once lovable Cubs? Probably not...but most dislike goes towards winning teams. Whomever making the list outside of an oddsmaker having hate?...meh, we are who they thought we are.
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Post by snyder55 on Jun 6, 2021 9:05:27 GMT -5
it seems to be popular among sportswriters and TV people to dump on a perennial loser, the NY media is famous for it especially where the Giants and Jets are concerned...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 9:14:44 GMT -5
it seems to be popular among sportswriters and TV people to dump on a perennial loser, the NY media is famous for it especially where the Giants and Jets are concerned... Where is the confusion about this? Both of those teams have SUCKED for over a decade now and deserve every bit of the "dumping" they are getting..\
How Judge turns out will be known in the next 2 years and no article pro or against him is going to make a difference..
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