katcavage75
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Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.- Vince Lombardi
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Post by katcavage75 on Jun 8, 2021 14:55:51 GMT -5
Way too young. Thanks for your great contributions to the NY Giants. Met him once when Giants held summer camp at U Albany. Came into The Across the Street Pub, our local Giants bar on a Thursday evening. Bought the small group at the bar a round of drinks. He was humble and coolly confident. Said he would have the team prepared and ready for every game. He asked for a lot from the team in film study, game preparation, and taught the QBs how to read defenses. Thanks Coach Fassel. Respect.
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3days
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Post by 3days on Jun 8, 2021 16:39:22 GMT -5
Wow, very sad to see, was a big fan, even wrote him thanking him for being a classy coach after he was fired (got a letter back).
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Post by TEM on Jun 8, 2021 17:02:42 GMT -5
Brought the Giants out of the mini dark ages in the 90s,made their offense "modern: for that era with his WCO style ... Got the most out of Kerry Collins Just sucks they run into a buzz saw in Super Bowl 35... True , yet I remember sitting at the NFC Champion ship game against the Vikings and I just never thought I would see the Giants dominate any game like that game 41-0 ! RIP Jim! I still have my towel from the game . That game was one of my favorite experiences at the old stadium. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 8, 2021 19:29:45 GMT -5
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Post by bavarobeast on Jun 8, 2021 20:11:16 GMT -5
Sad to hear.
I liked Jim Fassel. - Good Man - Good Coach - Good Giant.
RIP
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jun 8, 2021 20:17:31 GMT -5
RIP, good man and a good ball coach. Some real highlights during his tenure.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 8, 2021 20:36:25 GMT -5
He was a breath of fresh air for the Giants, turned them into a winner.
Tiki was really upset today on his radio show. Fassel apparently always had Tiki's back and gave him confidence when he needed it. Tiki said when he was drafted the Giants had Rodney Hampton and Tyrone Wheatley and Fassel had Tiki's back from day 1. They stayed friends after their time with the Giants..
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Post by Jomo on Jun 8, 2021 20:36:57 GMT -5
I always liked him and said he'd make a great neighbor.
I respected him putting everything on the line in that march to the SB.
RIP Jim, way too early to go.
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giantsalmon
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Post by giantsalmon on Jun 8, 2021 21:19:19 GMT -5
Damn, Gametime and I had just discussed his "pushing chips to the middle of the table" presser and the subsequent SB run.. Good memories with him
leading the way with Collins and OC Sean Payton. RIP Coach.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Jun 9, 2021 1:37:03 GMT -5
I always had a fondness for him and I love the way Tiki Thanked him for giving him a shot. I felt he deserved another chance at HC with a different team. RIP coach.
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Post by Nite on Jun 9, 2021 8:02:46 GMT -5
I always had a fondness for him and I love the way Tiki Thanked him for giving him a shot. I felt he deserved another chance at HC with a different team. RIP coach. Isn't it odd that the most successful coaches for the NYG don't manage to stay employed here? Its like ownership doesn't really want success.. Parcels. Fassel, Coughlin and BB before he became a HC. I remember Coughlin thought he was going to get canned after his 3rd season and had to beg ownership for a couple more seasons |
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Post by Nite on Jun 9, 2021 8:55:37 GMT -5
Isn't it odd that the most successful coaches for the NYG don't manage to stay employed here? Its like ownership doesn't really want success.. Parcels. Fassel, Coughlin and BB before he became a HC. I remember Coughlin thought he was going to get canned after his 3rd season and had to beg ownership for a couple more seasons You might want to look at those situations a little closer. Parcells left he wasn't fired ,he wanted more power and George Young wouldn't give any up and he is all so the reason BB never became the HC of the Giants after Parcells. How long do you think a Super Coach can keep Coaching without winning ?I think you missed my point |
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Post by Nite on Jun 9, 2021 9:03:48 GMT -5
I think you missed my point No I got it, you want to blame Ownership and all I am saying is it 's not that easy. Yes it is that easy and obvious. Since ownership makes the decisions on coaching and even some personnel. |
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Post by Nite on Jun 9, 2021 10:28:28 GMT -5
Yes it is that easy and obvious. Since ownership makes the decisions on coaching and even some personnel I gave you examples of how in at least one case with the NY Giants it had nothing to do with Ownership. That is not the question, not just that one case. You sidestepped it. Reread carefully what I said its quite clear |
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Post by geogogo on Jun 9, 2021 13:01:47 GMT -5
Thank you for all you did for this organization. My Good bless all of the Fassel family, friends, and all who Jim impacted.
Rest in Peace, Coach.
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Post by IrishMike on Jun 10, 2021 5:10:52 GMT -5
I'll always remember him as the coach that brought us out of the darkest days of my Giants fandom. Sure our team recently has been worse than the mid 90s but I was a teen back then and it left an imprint. Jim came on board and we had some damn good years. RIP coach.
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Post by IrishMike on Jun 10, 2021 5:18:31 GMT -5
Isn't it odd that the most successful coaches for the NYG don't manage to stay employed here? Its like ownership doesn't really want success.. Parcels. Fassel, Coughlin and BB before he became a HC. I remember Coughlin thought he was going to get canned after his 3rd season and had to beg ownership for a couple more seasons Huh?
Parcells retired after 7 years coaching here. Fassel had about a 50% success rate per season, then went 4-12 after 7 years, only coached 3 more years, zero as a HC in the NFL.
Coughlin coached here for 11 years and then stepped down after a disaster of a 2015 season and never coached again.
Not sure how you get "ownership doesn't want success" from these situations.
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Post by Nite on Jun 10, 2021 8:53:46 GMT -5
Isn't it odd that the most successful coaches for the NYG don't manage to stay employed here? Its like ownership doesn't really want success.. Parcels. Fassel, Coughlin and BB before he became a HC. I remember Coughlin thought he was going to get canned after his 3rd season and had to beg ownership for a couple more seasons Huh?
Parcells retired after 7 years coaching here. Fassel had about a 50% success rate per season, then went 4-12 after 7 years, only coached 3 more years, zero as a HC in the NFL.
Coughlin coached here for 11 years and then stepped down after a disaster of a 2015 season and never coached again.
Not sure how you get "ownership doesn't want success" from these situations.
Eh, I guess its my perception. Parcells didn't retire he just wanted more power over personnel. So he 'retired' here and coached elsewhere. Its seems a lot of good coaching talent flow through their fingers.BB, Payton, Fox etc. Any one of those would be a decent replacement. My anti-Mara bias is showing lol |
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Post by IrishMike on Jun 10, 2021 23:04:37 GMT -5
Huh?
Parcells retired after 7 years coaching here. Fassel had about a 50% success rate per season, then went 4-12 after 7 years, only coached 3 more years, zero as a HC in the NFL.
Coughlin coached here for 11 years and then stepped down after a disaster of a 2015 season and never coached again.
Not sure how you get "ownership doesn't want success" from these situations.
Eh, I guess its my perception. Parcells didn't retire he just wanted more power over personnel. So he 'retired' here and coached elsewhere. Its seems a lot of good coaching talent flow through their fingers.BB, Payton, Fox etc. Any one of those would be a decent replacement. My anti-Mara bias is showing lol Could look at the flip side though. Perhaps our owners are good at finding talented coaches? I know it goes against the "bad mara" narrative but we have always done a better job than the Jets (and most franchises). |
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giantsalmon
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Post by giantsalmon on Jun 15, 2021 19:46:52 GMT -5
Eh, I guess its my perception. Parcells didn't retire he just wanted more power over personnel. So he 'retired' here and coached elsewhere. Its seems a lot of good coaching talent flow through their fingers.BB, Payton, Fox etc. Any one of those would be a decent replacement. My anti-Mara bias is showing lol Could look at the flip side though. Perhaps our owners are good at finding talented coaches? I know it goes against the "bad mara" narrative but we have always done a better job than the Jets (and most franchises). I think things have gotten "stickier" with coaching hires n fires since the younger Tisch became involved. IMO Mara wouldn't have asked TC to step down unless he was getting pressure from others in the organization I'm not saying it was right or wrong, but it sure was awkward at that presser between Mara and TC. |
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