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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 22, 2021 12:40:34 GMT -5
Where do you stand on this subject? What do you see as potential issues and/or benefits that will come with paying the athletes a salary/ hourly rate? For me, Im for a fair payment for student - athletes. They already get full rides actual students would take in a heartbeat and not have to owe a ridiculous amount of money when they graduate. Maybe like $100 a week on top of the free ride which most of the time also includes meals. I think they need to pay all the athletes the same though, regardless of the popularity or talent of the athlete, otherwise you would start seeing agents and holdouts all the time. Several other issues could arise. Students may form a union and eventually break away from the college landscape, making it more of like a D-League or Minor League for the NFL/ other sports. The teams in college could become super teams (much more than they are now) since they can "buy" their players. There might need to be a hard cap. On the other side, this could entice high school kids to go and stay in school instead of leaving so quickly to get a big payday in the pro leagues. Its a interesting subject to discuss. Thoughts? Some Pros and Cons on paying the college athletes
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Post by jimmieray on Jun 22, 2021 13:09:00 GMT -5
The only thing that this will entice is young people crying discrimination that the colleges are keeping them and their families in poverty, because they don't give them all money on top of the extremely valuable education more deserving ones will miss out on.
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Post by Kruunch on Jun 22, 2021 13:09:37 GMT -5
Don’t kid yourself. Most of these kids are getting paid. Now, how do you divide the big pot individually to the student athletes? Is the star quarterback going to get the same as the bench warmer? Once money gets involved, it’s no longer a place for learning. It’s a business. These College Universities are printing money on the backs of their athletes. So, I’m not against them being compensated. However, it will change the landscape of College and not for the better.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 22, 2021 13:12:37 GMT -5
Don’t kid yourself. Most of these kids are getting paid. Now, how do you divide the big pot individually to the student athletes? Is the star quarterback going to get the same as the bench warmer? Once money gets involved, it’s no longer a place for learning. It’s a business. These College Universities are printing money on the backs of their athletes. So, I’m not against them being compensated. However, it will change the landscape of College and not for the better. That's pretty much how I feel. Once it turns into a legal business, it all goes out the window. Boosters, TV network contracts, ect. Lawyers are going to love it.
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Post by 3days on Jun 22, 2021 13:14:35 GMT -5
I think the Supreme Court made the only ruling that they could make. As they said we would never let any other business get away with this. I think it is right that athletes are allowed to get paid for ads, they should also make a commission when their jersey is sold. This will create some real challenges though and colleges will need to have a full HR staff to deal with the laws, etc.
Therefore it is the right decision, with implications we can’t even begin to predict.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 22, 2021 14:34:51 GMT -5
Another interesting read on the subject.NCAA amateurism is effectively dead, and the association itself may not be far behind The tenet upon which the NCAA's based is fading, and its power is quickly slipping away The NCAA was worried about recruiting advantages. The Supreme Court was concerned with fairness, violations of the nation's 131-year-old antitrust law and NCAA power than had become intolerable. "The NCAA is not above the law," wrote Justice Brett Kavanaugh in a concurring opinion following the unanimous 9-0 vote. "The NCAA's business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America," Justice Kavanaugh said. "It is highly questionable whether the NCAA and its member colleges can justify not paying student athletes a fair share of the revenues." That opens the door to massive financial gains for those athletes in the future. Justice Kavanaugh even addressed the potential impact on minor sports and Title IX. Athletes could collectively bargain those benefits. Amazing. A Supreme Court justice just gave the NCAA a roadmap out of this mess. Whether the advice is taken remains to be seen. One prominent Power Five source characterized Monday's decision as "shock and awe" suggesting it "scraps the entire amateurism model as we know it." The challenge now, the source said, is finding an NCAA decision in this space that is not a walking, talking antitrust violation.You know what's coming, right? NIL is going to be a monster the NCAA can't control. It certainly can't hint at capping compensation. It is begging Congress for legal protection not only on NIL but for any athlete in the past who want to sue. That's a huge ask for an organization that just got blown out in the Supreme Court. Unless there is that Congressional intervention, the NCAA is a fly on the wall to antiquity. And if Congress steps in, the NCAA will be even further marginalized. The federal government will be the de facto arbiter of college sports. "I think it's terminal. I really do," another prominent Power Five source told CBS Sports in March regarding the current set up.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jun 22, 2021 18:32:08 GMT -5
With the amount the universities make it’s clearly fair. Whatever they get paid compared to what’s made will still be peanuts.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 22, 2021 19:06:21 GMT -5
With the amount the universities make it’s clearly fair. Whatever they get paid compared to what’s made will still be peanuts. If I work at Amazon, should I get a large portion of what they profit as a company? Because most of them get peanuts too. For much harder and not playing a sport for work.
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Post by TEM on Jun 22, 2021 19:20:24 GMT -5
How would this work? Theses are questions off the top of my head. How can a smaller program (Tulane) pay players as much as A big program PSU? This isn't the NFL. There is no union to set the standard on how players get compensated. How do you standardize it? If the player is not worth the money ( performance) the University is compensating him. Would he be cut? Would his scholarship be guaranteed? Would he still be offered a scholarship? Some schools have GPA standards in order to be eligible to play. How would that work? Pay him not to play? Would the player even have to attend classes if he is getting paid? Would there be a disparity in compensation for the goalie for the girls field hockey and the Football teams QB? As it stands now they both get the same scholarship to play. Would it be discrimination if they do not get the same pay? Would the player have to pay the taxes in each state they play in as it is with Pro players? ( Jock tax) smartasset.com/taxes/nfl-jock-taxes#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20paying%20taxes%20to%20the%20IRS,50%25%20of%20their%20salary%20and%20bonuses%20in%20taxes. Would it be fair to MLB NFL NHL NBA players if NCAA players did not have to pay those taxes? IMO this destroys other College sports . Field hockey, Lacrosse Swimming, Diving, Gymnastics, Golf, Bowling....... They are not going to pay everyone. In order to be compliant . Schools will just end those programs. The proponents of this . Did they even consider any of this?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 22, 2021 20:01:02 GMT -5
How would this work? Theses are questions off the top of my head. How can a smaller program (Tulane) pay players as much as A big program PSU? This isn't the NFL. There is no union to set the standard on how players get compensated. How do you standardize it? If the player is not worth the money ( performance) the University is compensating him. Would he be cut? Would his scholarship be guaranteed? Would he still be offered a scholarship? Some schools have GPA standards in order to be eligible to play. How would that work? Pay him not to play? Would the player even have to attend classes if he is getting paid? Would there be a disparity in compensation for the goalie for the girls field hockey and the Football teams QB? As it stands now they both get the same scholarship to play. Would it be discrimination if they do not get the same pay? Would the player have to pay the taxes in each state they play in as it is with Pro players? ( Jock tax) smartasset.com/taxes/nfl-jock-taxes#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20paying%20taxes%20to%20the%20IRS,50%25%20of%20their%20salary%20and%20bonuses%20in%20taxes. Would it be fair to MLB NFL NHL NBA players if NCAA players did not have to pay those taxes? IMO this destroys other College sports . Field hockey, Lacrosse Swimming, Diving, Gymnastics, Golf, Bowling....... They are not going to pay everyone. In order to be compliant . Schools will just end those programs. The proponents of this . Did they even consider any of this? PC culture, Cancel culture, it's going to take down everything.
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Post by 3days on Jun 22, 2021 20:18:29 GMT -5
How would this work? Theses are questions off the top of my head. How can a smaller program (Tulane) pay players as much as A big program PSU? This isn't the NFL. There is no union to set the standard on how players get compensated. How do you standardize it? If the player is not worth the money ( performance) the University is compensating him. Would he be cut? Would his scholarship be guaranteed? Would he still be offered a scholarship? Some schools have GPA standards in order to be eligible to play. How would that work? Pay him not to play? Would the player even have to attend classes if he is getting paid? Would there be a disparity in compensation for the goalie for the girls field hockey and the Football teams QB? As it stands now they both get the same scholarship to play. Would it be discrimination if they do not get the same pay? Would the player have to pay the taxes in each state they play in as it is with Pro players? ( Jock tax) smartasset.com/taxes/nfl-jock-taxes#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20paying%20taxes%20to%20the%20IRS,50%25%20of%20their%20salary%20and%20bonuses%20in%20taxes. Would it be fair to MLB NFL NHL NBA players if NCAA players did not have to pay those taxes? IMO this destroys other College sports . Field hockey, Lacrosse Swimming, Diving, Gymnastics, Golf, Bowling....... They are not going to pay everyone. In order to be compliant . Schools will just end those programs. The proponents of this . Did they even consider any of this? PC culture, Cancel culture, it's going to take down everything. While I agree this has the potential to take down college sports, I don’t see how this has anything to do with PC and cancel. Players took the legality of a specific law to the Supreme Court and they won. Just because it may wreck something does not mean the court should ignore the laws. I expect within 2 years players will be able to market their name.
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Post by TEM on Jun 23, 2021 5:43:59 GMT -5
How would this work? Theses are questions off the top of my head. How can a smaller program (Tulane) pay players as much as A big program PSU? This isn't the NFL. There is no union to set the standard on how players get compensated. How do you standardize it? If the player is not worth the money ( performance) the University is compensating him. Would he be cut? Would his scholarship be guaranteed? Would he still be offered a scholarship? Some schools have GPA standards in order to be eligible to play. How would that work? Pay him not to play? Would the player even have to attend classes if he is getting paid? Would there be a disparity in compensation for the goalie for the girls field hockey and the Football teams QB? As it stands now they both get the same scholarship to play. Would it be discrimination if they do not get the same pay? Would the player have to pay the taxes in each state they play in as it is with Pro players? ( Jock tax) smartasset.com/taxes/nfl-jock-taxes#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20paying%20taxes%20to%20the%20IRS,50%25%20of%20their%20salary%20and%20bonuses%20in%20taxes. Would it be fair to MLB NFL NHL NBA players if NCAA players did not have to pay those taxes? IMO this destroys other College sports . Field hockey, Lacrosse Swimming, Diving, Gymnastics, Golf, Bowling....... They are not going to pay everyone. In order to be compliant . Schools will just end those programs. The proponents of this . Did they even consider any of this? PC culture, Cancel culture, it's going to take down everything. I just think it is more of the lack of thought process in the conception of these kinds of ideas. It is chant "pay the NCAA players" without seeing the ramifications of that action. This is what will happen if allowed. A) Tuition will spike out of control .Cost of College for every one will become much worse then it is today. There is an estimated 500 thousand college Athletes in the US . Even paying each them $100 a week would add up to an estimated 2.6 billion each year. At 500 a week it is 13 billion .At 1000 a week it is 26 billion. B) As I said this will eliminate most of the other Sports, and none curricular activities , Debate team, Chess, Fencing, Cheerleading, Polo, Competition Fishing..... Because once you pay one . Everyone has to get paid or the discrimination suits will become out of control. I feel bad for the lesser sports programs. The kids that need that scholarship are not going to receive it because . It will go away. JimmyRay talked about poverty as a motivator in this. What about the athlete whos sport is eliminated, now they can't get a scholarship and need it to get an education. Who is lobbying for that person?I can see what transpired to come up with this. idiot 1 Here is a good Idea . Make the NCAA pay their players. That will increase the cost of education for everyone. idiot 2 That is a great idea. It will keep higher education out of the reach of most middle class and lower income people. Idiot 3 We will blame it on the schools for the spike in costs. As we did with the Student Loan Programs. Idiot 4 Simple solution we will make tax payers pay all costs for higher education. Idiot 5 Fantastic concept. We will make the US tax payer fund student athletes compensation for play. Meeting Adjourned
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Post by TEM on Jun 23, 2021 5:52:39 GMT -5
I think the Supreme Court made the only ruling that they could make. As they said we would never let any other business get away with this. I think it is right that athletes are allowed to get paid for ads, they should also make a commission when their jersey is sold. This will create some real challenges though and colleges will need to have a full HR staff to deal with the laws, etc. Therefore it is the right decision, with implications we can’t even begin to predict. The court did not say any of that. This was yesterday The Supreme Court on Monday unanimously sided with a group of former college athletes, ruling that the National Collegiate Athletic Association’s tight limits on education-related compensation — things like computers and graduate scholarships — violates antitrust law. The court rejected the NCAA’s argument that offering compensation through education-related benefits would alienate fans who appreciate players’ amateur status.The ruling means that the NCAA cannot prevent schools from offering compensation beyond tuition costs, such as scholarships for graduate school or study-abroad programs, for student athletes.
However, the compensation must be related to education. The NCAA’s rules that restrict athletes from being paid to play or for endorsing products were not in question before the court.
The next law suit will be about Pay. nypost.com/2021/06/21/supreme-court-sides-with-college-athletes-in-ncaa-dispute/
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jun 23, 2021 13:05:48 GMT -5
With the amount the universities make it’s clearly fair. Whatever they get paid compared to what’s made will still be peanuts. If I work at Amazon, should I get a large portion of what they profit as a company? Because most of them get peanuts too. For much harder and not playing a sport for work. I work for one such mammoth and a large amount of company stock is part of my annual compensation, so yes.
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Post by Kruunch on Jun 23, 2021 13:10:02 GMT -5
PC culture, Cancel culture, it's going to take down everything. I just think it is more of the lack of thought process in the conception of these kinds of ideas. It is chant "pay the NCAA players" without seeing the ramifications of that action. This is what will happen if allowed. A) Tuition will spike out of control .Cost of College for every one will become much worse that it is today. There is an estimated 500 thousand college Athletes in the US . Even paying each them $100 a week would add up to an estimated 2.6 billion each year. At 500 a week it is 13 billion .At 1000 a week it is 26 billion. B) As I said this will eliminate most of the other Sports, and none curricular activities , Debate team, Chess, Fencing, Cheerleading, Polo, Competition Fishing..... Because once you pay one . Everyone has to get paid or the discrimination suits will become out of control. I feel bad for the lesser sports programs. The kids that need that scholarship are not going to receive it because . It will go away. JimmyRay talked about poverty as a motivator in this. What about the athlete whos sport is eliminated, now they can't get a scholarship and need it to get an education. Who is lobbying for that person?I can see what transpired to come up with this. idiot 1 Here is a good Idea . Make the NCAA pay their players. That will increase the cost of education for everyone. idiot 2 That is a great idea. It will keep higher education out of the reach of most middle class and lower income people. Idiot 3 We will blame it on the schools for the spike in costs. As we did with the Student Loan Programs. Idiot 4 Simple solution we will make tax payers pay all costs for higher education. Idiot 5 Fantastic concept. We will make the US tax payer fund student athletes compensation for play. Meeting Adjourned Idiot 5 shouldn’t be allowed to breath.
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Post by te88 on Jun 23, 2021 21:33:17 GMT -5
Honestly the NCAA has never made sense to me. Anyone outside the USA looks at it as a farce. We are meant to believe this is an amateur league and these are students yet it operates the same as any pro sports league you would find elsewhere in the world. Let’s stop the big lie and the charade that these are “students” and consider them professional teams. It’s just silly. In many sports there are feeder/development leagues that lead to the top competition…minor league and international baseball, numerous soccer leagues, F2 and F3 in racing, OHL, AHL and QMJHL in hockey…let’s call a spade a spade.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 24, 2021 5:35:09 GMT -5
Honestly the NCAA has never made sense to me. Anyone outside the USA looks at it as a farce. We are meant to believe this is an amateur league and these are students yet it operates the same as any pro sports league you would find elsewhere in the world. Let’s stop the big lie and the charade that these are “students” and consider them professional teams. It’s just silly. In many sports there are feeder/development leagues that lead to the top competition…minor league and international baseball, numerous soccer leagues, F2 and F3 in racing, OHL, AHL and QMJHL in hockey…let’s call a spade a spade. If we call them pro athletes, it changes everything. No longer can they be associated with the universities. So the University of Alabama Crimson Tide will just be the Alabama Tide. Most the teams will fold. My favorite, Syracuse, would form a Team New York instead and lumped in with every other athlete. And how do you distribute the players now. It's not a team recruiting for a school anymore. There would need to be a salary cap. Basically, college football would turn into a youth XFL. And forget about the other college sports.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 24, 2021 7:51:31 GMT -5
NCAA FILES INTERIM NIL RULING AFTER SUPREME COURT’S DECISION NCAA President Mark Emmert has announced that temporary legislation would immediately be put into action to uphold the Supreme Court’s decision on collegiate athletes profiting off their image and likeness, via NCAA vs. Alston‘s pending enactment. In a memo, the NCAA President says: “We are focused on providing you additional guidance to make the introduction of the NIL (image and likeness) era as smooth as possible. Although permanent NIL rule changes by July 1 are unlikely due to the legal environment, we are working with divisional governance bodies to develop interim solutions that will fairly allow student-athletes to take advantage of NIL opportunities regardless of the state in which they are enrolled.” Included in the report are a number of states that are seeking immediate protections from the interim legislation, scheduled to be set by Thursday’s time. These states include Texas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi and New Mexico. Pent-up player frustration regarding their financial restrictions could soon be unleashed, and the NCAA is now desperately trying to pass apt legislation to deter any lawsuits resulting from the Court’s ruling on Monday. www.outkick.com/ncaa-mark-emmert-supreme-court/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1624503963-1
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Post by te88 on Jun 24, 2021 9:03:03 GMT -5
Honestly the NCAA has never made sense to me. Anyone outside the USA looks at it as a farce. We are meant to believe this is an amateur league and these are students yet it operates the same as any pro sports league you would find elsewhere in the world. Let’s stop the big lie and the charade that these are “students” and consider them professional teams. It’s just silly. In many sports there are feeder/development leagues that lead to the top competition…minor league and international baseball, numerous soccer leagues, F2 and F3 in racing, OHL, AHL and QMJHL in hockey…let’s call a spade a spade. If we call them pro athletes, it changes everything. No longer can they be associated with the universities. So the University of Alabama Crimson Tide will just be the Alabama Tide. Most the teams will fold. My favorite, Syracuse, would form a Team New York instead and lumped in with every other athlete. And how do you distribute the players now. It's not a team recruiting for a school anymore. There would need to be a salary cap. Basically, college football would turn into a youth XFL. And forget about the other college sports. Maybe the colleges can sponsor or be paid somehow by the owners of the teams (or choose to own them themselves) to keep the branding in tact. I’m sure there is a way to figure it out. But it’s a pro/junior league. It’s not like the USA doesn’t know how to set up a sports league. Been getting away with the farce of “student athletes” for too long.
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Post by SG88 on Jun 24, 2021 9:12:58 GMT -5
I honestly have no issue with the athletes getting paid off the field for their likeness. The young men and women for decades have been penalized for things like taking 100 dollar handshakes, having a summer job or even signing autographs. The "NC double Assholes" had this coming to them and this is decades late IMO.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 24, 2021 9:19:35 GMT -5
If we call them pro athletes, it changes everything. No longer can they be associated with the universities. So the University of Alabama Crimson Tide will just be the Alabama Tide. Most the teams will fold. My favorite, Syracuse, would form a Team New York instead and lumped in with every other athlete. And how do you distribute the players now. It's not a team recruiting for a school anymore. There would need to be a salary cap. Basically, college football would turn into a youth XFL. And forget about the other college sports. Maybe the colleges can sponsor or be paid somehow by the owners of the teams (or choose to own them themselves) to keep the branding in tact. I’m sure there is a way to figure it out. But it’s a pro/junior league. It’s not like the USA doesn’t know how to set up a sports league. Been getting away with the farce of “student athletes” for too long. The average tuition in a school like Alabama is $10,000 for in state and $30,000 for out of state. Thats per school year. College Football players dont pay that on scholarship, which 99% are. And they receive this no matter the education as long as they "pass". And from everything I hear and see, its nearly impossible to fail unless you completely fall off. Its not like they don't get anything for playing football. I dont take full pity on the kids.
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Post by te88 on Jun 24, 2021 9:43:08 GMT -5
Maybe the colleges can sponsor or be paid somehow by the owners of the teams (or choose to own them themselves) to keep the branding in tact. I’m sure there is a way to figure it out. But it’s a pro/junior league. It’s not like the USA doesn’t know how to set up a sports league. Been getting away with the farce of “student athletes” for too long. The average tuition in a school like Alabama is $10,000 for in state and $30,000 for out of state. Thats per school year. College Football players dont pay that on scholarship, which 99% are. And they receive this no matter the education as long as they "pass". And from everything I hear and see, its nearly impossible to fail unless you completely fall off. Its not like they don't get anything for playing football. I dont take full pity on the kids. So take all that and make it salary. Put all the compensation above board. Stop making them attend class. If they want to study take it out of their pay or do the opposite and give them a bonus if they actually graduate. Most of them are not students in reality. Especially the big programs. It’s just silly.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 24, 2021 11:03:59 GMT -5
The average tuition in a school like Alabama is $10,000 for in state and $30,000 for out of state. Thats per school year. College Football players dont pay that on scholarship, which 99% are. And they receive this no matter the education as long as they "pass". And from everything I hear and see, its nearly impossible to fail unless you completely fall off. Its not like they don't get anything for playing football. I dont take full pity on the kids. So take all that and make it salary. Put all the compensation above board. Stop making them attend class. If they want to study take it out of their pay or do the opposite and give them a bonus if they actually graduate. Most of them are not students in reality. Especially the big programs. It’s just silly. Thats where this is headed IMO. Its going to be a G-League. A minors for the NFL. No school association at all. With that, you get minor league pay and zero education. The average per week MiLB salary is: Rookie and short-season: Up to $400 from $290 Single-A: Up to $500 from $290 Double-A: Up to $600 from $350 Triple-A: Up to $700 from $502 Triple-A players can earn $14,000 for their five-month season and short-season players can earn $4,800 for their three-month season. Minor leaguers are not paid during the offseason or for spring training. So the average salary is about $8,000. Again, taking them out of school means they then lose education and any other privilege they receive. There are a large percentage, probably like 90%, of players in college that depend on the education as they dont make it to the NFL. So you make the player coming out of high school to choose college or minor league NFL paying scraps, much like MLB, but without the option to play in college. Then add in the fact they need to pay their agents throughout the whole process. Its a recipe for disaster IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 11:09:06 GMT -5
It's more complicated than just a or thumbs down. Some of these guys come from absolutely nothing and are forced to take pt jobs on top of classes and football just to sustain themselves while the NCAA makes billions off of them. However, paying them an outright salary opens up a huge Pandora's Box of other issues.
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Post by te88 on Jun 24, 2021 12:06:52 GMT -5
So take all that and make it salary. Put all the compensation above board. Stop making them attend class. If they want to study take it out of their pay or do the opposite and give them a bonus if they actually graduate. Most of them are not students in reality. Especially the big programs. It’s just silly. Thats where this is headed IMO. Its going to be a G-League. A minors for the NFL. No school association at all. With that, you get minor league pay and zero education. The average per week MiLB salary is: Rookie and short-season: Up to $400 from $290 Single-A: Up to $500 from $290 Double-A: Up to $600 from $350 Triple-A: Up to $700 from $502 Triple-A players can earn $14,000 for their five-month season and short-season players can earn $4,800 for their three-month season. Minor leaguers are not paid during the offseason or for spring training. So the average salary is about $8,000. Again, taking them out of school means they then lose education and any other privilege they receive. There are a large percentage, probably like 90%, of players in college that depend on the education as they dont make it to the NFL. So you make the player coming out of high school to choose college or minor league NFL paying scraps, much like MLB, but without the option to play in college. Then add in the fact they need to pay their agents throughout the whole process. Its a recipe for disaster IMO. Keep the association with the schools for branding. Universities all get a default stake in the team and have first right of refusal to purchase and own the team for $0. Or they can give up a stake to bring in investors Pay the players (not extravagantly) Give players access to free tuition or reduced tuition (every school has to give the same proportion of tuition for free) Give players health insurance. Lots of ways to do it really. But yeah the USA has to accept that the way the NCAA works is complete nonsense. I get the attachment and everything to College sports but it really makes no sense
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Post by SG88 on Jun 25, 2021 13:07:46 GMT -5
It's more complicated than just a or thumbs down. Some of these guys come from absolutely nothing and are forced to take pt jobs on top of classes and football just to sustain themselves while the NCAA makes billions off of them. However, paying them an outright salary opens up a huge Pandora's Box of other issues. I absolutely agree that they should not get paid to play. They should be able to profit from their likeness off the field though IMO.
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Post by snyder55 on Jun 25, 2021 15:41:28 GMT -5
be careful of what you wish for because you just might get it...
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Post by bluebuddha on Jun 25, 2021 15:56:10 GMT -5
It's more complicated than just a or thumbs down. Some of these guys come from absolutely nothing and are forced to take pt jobs on top of classes and football just to sustain themselves while the NCAA makes billions off of them. However, paying them an outright salary opens up a huge Pandora's Box of other issues. I absolutely agree that they should not get paid to play. They should be able to profit from their likeness off the field though IMO. Yes if the NCAA wasn't greedy and didn't shutdown endorsement events, gaming royalties, youtube videos and other vehicles that pay the athletes based on who they are, this probably would not have come up. I also think if the NCAA are going prohibit athletes from making money they should atleast pay for the expenses that are not covered by tuition ,insurance and not get thier scholarship revoked if they get injured during practice or in games.
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Post by imgrate on Jun 26, 2021 21:45:50 GMT -5
I dont think they should receive a salary for playing sports. However, I do believe they should be able to make as much money for themselves as they want by using their position as a ncaa athlete.
Want to get paid for a local car dealership ad? No problem.
Want to get sponsored by adidas? No problem with that.
Want to have a YouTube channel where you promote it by saying what NCAA sport you play? No problem.
Want to sell your autograph? No problem....so on and so forth.
Schools paying for anything that's not education related? Not good or sustainable in my opinion.
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Post by TEM on Jun 27, 2021 6:54:46 GMT -5
I dont think they should receive a salary for playing sports. However, I do believe they should be able to make as much money for themselves as they want by using their position as a ncaa athlete. Want to get paid for a local car dealership ad? No problem. Want to get sponsored by adidas? No problem with that. Want to have a YouTube channel where you promote it by saying what NCAA sport you play? No problem. Want to sell your autograph? No problem....so on and so forth. Schools paying for anything that's not education related? Not good or sustainable in my opinion. I agree with this entire post. Is all this will do is destroy the scholarship programs for lesser sports and those sports programs themselves.
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