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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 29, 2021 7:13:44 GMT -5
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Post by bluebuddha on Jun 29, 2021 8:23:24 GMT -5
Probably a good way to filter out the me guys from the team guys.
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Post by SG88 on Jun 29, 2021 12:51:14 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. He is trying to profit from his own likeness off the field. If he performs well for Wisconsin on the field, he will make himself some good money away from the team. If not, he won't. Plain and simple.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 29, 2021 12:56:46 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. He is trying to profit from his own likeness off the field. If he performs well for Wisconsin on the field, he will make himself some good money away from the team. If not, he won't. Plain and simple. Ill start off by saying there will be obvious exceptions. However, let me ask you a simple question. Odell. Arguably the most marketable player this team has ever had, right? What happened to him? The fame and celebrity status got to his head. Now, imagine this for 18-19-20 year olds. Will it really help them? My guess is a lot of these athletes will fall victim to the cash flow and immaturity levels. Their play ON the field will not be as tight as it would be if they had to be. Again, Im not saying they shouldn't be compensated in some fashion, but I see a ton of issues, more than not. ITs going to negatively effect the game and the players IMO.
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Post by SG88 on Jun 29, 2021 13:00:08 GMT -5
I absolutely agree that they should not get paid to play. They should be able to profit from their likeness off the field though IMO. Yes if the NCAA wasn't greedy and didn't shutdown endorsement events, gaming royalties, youtube videos and other vehicles that pay the athletes based on who they are, this probably would not have come up. I also think if the NCAA are going prohibit athletes from making money they should atleast pay for the expenses that are not covered by tuition ,insurance and not get thier scholarship revoked if they get injured during practice or in games. I agree that the NCAA had this coming to them. If some sort of leeway was given in the past, then these kinds of things would never be an issue. A ton of these players are coming from poverty and the NCAA was expecting for them to not work and/or to refuse cash handouts?
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Post by SG88 on Jun 29, 2021 13:08:40 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. He is trying to profit from his own likeness off the field. If he performs well for Wisconsin on the field, he will make himself some good money away from the team. If not, he won't. Plain and simple. Ill start off by saying there will be obvious exceptions. However, let me ask you a simple question. Odell. Arguably the most marketable player this team has ever had, right? What happened to him? The fame and celebrity status got to his head. Now, imagine this for 18-19-20 year olds. Will it really help them? My guess is a lot of these athletes will fall victim to the cash flow and immaturity levels. Their play ON the field will not be as tight as it would be if they had to be. Again, Im not saying they shouldn't be compensated in some fashion, but I see a ton of issues, more than not. ITs going to negatively effect the game and the players IMO. I think that we have to be very careful about putting all of the players in one box. If you were to say that catch was the worst thing that could have happened to OBJ, I would agree with you 100%. You make a good point about how the money off the field could possibly affect their effort on the field of play. One important thing that these young men and women will learn is that the income off the field will totally stop with poor performance on it. I totally expect for several of these players to have financial issues. For their sakes, I hope that they get the guidance that they will need to manage these off the field endeavors. It is not as simple as making the money and spending it. Just like any business, there will be several types of expenses that they will have to account for. These young people will be operating themselves like a business and will have to make the right choices or they will crash and burn.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 29, 2021 13:59:58 GMT -5
Ill start off by saying there will be obvious exceptions. However, let me ask you a simple question. Odell. Arguably the most marketable player this team has ever had, right? What happened to him? The fame and celebrity status got to his head. Now, imagine this for 18-19-20 year olds. Will it really help them? My guess is a lot of these athletes will fall victim to the cash flow and immaturity levels. Their play ON the field will not be as tight as it would be if they had to be. Again, Im not saying they shouldn't be compensated in some fashion, but I see a ton of issues, more than not. ITs going to negatively effect the game and the players IMO. I think that we have to be very careful about putting all of the players in one box. If you were to say that catch was the worst thing that could have happened to OBJ, I would agree with you 100%. You make a good point about how the money off the field could possibly affect their effort on the field of play. One important thing that these young men and women will learn is that the income off the field will totally stop with poor performance on it. I totally expect for several of these players to have financial issues. For their sakes, I hope that they get the guidance that they will need to manage these off the field endeavors. It is not as simple as making the money and spending it. Just like any business, there will be several types of expenses that they will have to account for. These young people will be operating themselves like a business and will have to make the right choices or they will crash and burn. Thats why I said there will be exceptions obviously. It will motivate some to be that good on the field so they can take advantage. I just have a hard time looking at the players at, lets say, Alabama, and thinking Alabama will be a better team now that their players are getting paid a lot of money legally over the counter now and not having to worry about getting caught. Ill tell you what, it will certainly make it much more difficult for HCs too, trying to keep this kids reined in. Good luck Nick Saban. Those kids will be rocking cars, rollies and diamonds out in the open now, celebrity status. Its going to be very interesting how it all plays out, but I dont think the average college football fan is going to like the outcome.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 29, 2021 15:56:00 GMT -5
Now do the Big football factory schools benefit even more does a smaller conference pay the same as the SEC or Big Ten or whatever the name is now ?
Do the Military Academies have to pay players as well ? Can these small schools even compete ?
What about the other sports beside the money makers football and basketball ? Do the women sports get paid the same ?
What about performing arts ? What about the Band ? Why Not ? They get scholarships
Ah there's always unintended consequences..... This is a "Pandora's Box" .
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Post by SG88 on Jun 29, 2021 16:39:12 GMT -5
Now do the Big football factory schools benefit even more does a smaller conference pay the same as the SEC or Big Ten or whatever the name is now ? Do the Military Academies have to pay players as well ? Can these small schools even compete ? What about the other sports beside the money makers football and basketball ? Do the women sports get paid the same ? What about performing arts ? What about the Band ? Why Not ? They get scholarships Ah there's always unintended consequences..... This is a "Pandora's Box" . I don't think that the schools will be paying their players directly, but the athletes will be allowed to profit from their likeness away from their fields of play. There's no way that the schools would directly pay those players because that would certainly create an unfair playing field where the richest schools would always get the best players.
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Post by SG88 on Jun 29, 2021 16:47:11 GMT -5
I think that we have to be very careful about putting all of the players in one box. If you were to say that catch was the worst thing that could have happened to OBJ, I would agree with you 100%. You make a good point about how the money off the field could possibly affect their effort on the field of play. One important thing that these young men and women will learn is that the income off the field will totally stop with poor performance on it. I totally expect for several of these players to have financial issues. For their sakes, I hope that they get the guidance that they will need to manage these off the field endeavors. It is not as simple as making the money and spending it. Just like any business, there will be several types of expenses that they will have to account for. These young people will be operating themselves like a business and will have to make the right choices or they will crash and burn. Thats why I said there will be exceptions obviously. It will motivate some to be that good on the field so they can take advantage. I just have a hard time looking at the players at, lets say, Alabama, and thinking Alabama will be a better team now that their players are getting paid a lot of money legally over the counter now and not having to worry about getting caught. Ill tell you what, it will certainly make it much more difficult for HCs too, trying to keep this kids reined in. Good luck Nick Saban. Those kids will be rocking cars, rollies and diamonds out in the open now, celebrity status. Its going to be very interesting how it all plays out, but I dont think the average college football fan is going to like the outcome. I actually think that this will level the playing field across college sports. In future years, we won't see the same teams competing for championships on an annual basis. Like you mentioned, good luck Nicktator. The players won't have to be paid a fortune (allegedly but almost certainly) to go play in a town like Tuscaloosa, AL when they can make just as much to go play somewhere else or in a big market like NY. Syracuse might benefit big time from this, so I'm all for it.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 29, 2021 17:14:23 GMT -5
Thats why I said there will be exceptions obviously. It will motivate some to be that good on the field so they can take advantage. I just have a hard time looking at the players at, lets say, Alabama, and thinking Alabama will be a better team now that their players are getting paid a lot of money legally over the counter now and not having to worry about getting caught. Ill tell you what, it will certainly make it much more difficult for HCs too, trying to keep this kids reined in. Good luck Nick Saban. Those kids will be rocking cars, rollies and diamonds out in the open now, celebrity status. Its going to be very interesting how it all plays out, but I dont think the average college football fan is going to like the outcome. I actually think that this will level the playing field across college sports. In future years, we won't see the same teams competing for championships on an annual basis. Like you mentioned, good luck Nicktator. The players won't have to be paid a fortune (allegedly but almost certainly) to go play in a town like Tuscaloosa, AL when they can make just as much to go play somewhere else or in a big market like NY. Syracuse might benefit big time from this, so I'm all for it. No way Syracuse can outspend Alabama for football players. Unless they have a salary cap, which their new union won't allow, it will be heavily tilted towards the power houses IMO.
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Post by TEM on Jun 29, 2021 17:38:05 GMT -5
Now do the Big football factory schools benefit even more does a smaller conference pay the same as the SEC or Big Ten or whatever the name is now ? Do the Military Academies have to pay players as well ? Can these small schools even compete ? What about the other sports beside the money makers football and basketball ? Do the women sports get paid the same ? What about performing arts ? What about the Band ? Why Not ? They get scholarships Ah there's always unintended consequences..... This is a "Pandora's Box" . I don't think that the schools will be paying their players directly, but the athletes will be allowed to profit from their likeness away from their fields of play. There's no way that the schools would directly pay those players because that would certainly create an unfair playing field where the richest schools would always get the best players. How will that work? Alabama owns the Tided's logo. So the player can not sell sell or endorsement any product associated with it. Jersey Helmet...... This is different then the NFL. The players in the NFL are encouraged promote the NFL products and autograph them. The NFL pays the player through salery cap distribution. Alabama does not have that relashingship with their student athletes. Now if the player sings a Jersey or Helmet....... With the Tide's merchandise at an event and that the player is getting paid for each signature. What is to stop Alabama to claim copy right infringement ? Lets look at it from another aspect. Why would any big company want to damage their relationship The NCAA or the individule University?. Niki big bucks . Under Armor big bucks ATT Verizon...... Beer Autos To give some student athlete a promotional deal. They may get Joe's used car lot. What is that going to pay ? $50 bucks. The NFl has a symbiotic relationship with the players with permotions . The court battle proves the NCAA does not. It is easy to say this that and the other thing. To be able to apply it . That is a whole different beast.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jun 29, 2021 17:53:54 GMT -5
I don't think that the schools will be paying their players directly, but the athletes will be allowed to profit from their likeness away from their fields of play. There's no way that the schools would directly pay those players because that would certainly create an unfair playing field where the richest schools would always get the best players. How will that work? Alabama owns the Tided's logo. So the player can not sell sell or endorsement any product associated with it. Jersey Helmet...... This is different then the NFL. The players NFL are encouraged promote the NFL products and autograph them. The NFL pays the player through salery cap distribution. Alabama does not have that relashingship with their student athletes. Now if the player sings a Jersey or Helmet....... With the Tide's merchandise at an event and that the player is getting paid for each signature. What is to stop Alabama to claim copy right infringement ? Lets look at it from another aspect. Why would any big company want to damage their relationship The NCAA or the individule University. Niki big bucks . Under Armor big bucks ATT Verizon...... To give some student. athlete a promotional deal. The NFl has a symbiotic relationship with the players with permotions . The court battle proves the NCAA does not. NCAA has to figure it out as 7 states are passing NIL rules. So they can not restrict players from profiting off their own name image or likeness. More states will probably follow. This probably gives small businesses access to players the NCAA would never consider doing business with.
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Post by TEM on Jun 29, 2021 18:05:05 GMT -5
How will that work? Alabama owns the Tided's logo. So the player can not sell sell or endorsement any product associated with it. Jersey Helmet...... This is different then the NFL. The players NFL are encouraged promote the NFL products and autograph them. The NFL pays the player through salery cap distribution. Alabama does not have that relashingship with their student athletes. Now if the player sings a Jersey or Helmet....... With the Tide's merchandise at an event and that the player is getting paid for each signature. What is to stop Alabama to claim copy right infringement ? Lets look at it from another aspect. Why would any big company want to damage their relationship The NCAA or the individule University. Niki big bucks . Under Armor big bucks ATT Verizon...... To give some student. athlete a promotional deal. The NFl has a symbiotic relationship with the players with permotions . The court battle proves the NCAA does not. NCAA has to figure it out as 7 states are passing NIL rules. So they can not restrict players from profiting off their own name image or likeness. More states will probably follow. This probably gives small businesses access to players the NCAA would never consider doing business with. How does that apply to copy right infringement? How will that apply to partners of the NCAA that may have consequences if they side against the NCAA . First rule of commerce. Do not piss off your customers. As I said it is easier said than done. What is a small business going to pay 100 bucks? The NCAA does not have to allow any product with any NCAA logo associated with it . The government has no say on how a entity choses to protect its rights.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jun 29, 2021 18:18:28 GMT -5
NCAA has to figure it out as 7 states are passing NIL rules. So they can not restrict players from profiting off their own name image or likeness. More states will probably follow. This probably gives small businesses access to players the NCAA would never consider doing business with. How does that apply to copy right infringement? How will that apply to partners of the NCAA that may have consequences if they side against the NCAA . First rule of commerce. Do not piss off your customers. As I said it is easier said than done. What is a small business going to pay 100 bucks? That's the beauty of this whole situation.. it's not my problem to figure out.The NCAA has more than enough money to figure it. There are lawyers, pr managers, big business, medium business, small businesses and accountants that will probably figure it out. Probably be cheaper endorsements than going through NCAA. NCAA knows it is inevitable. They already given up the fight against NIL lawsuits.
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Post by TEM on Jun 29, 2021 18:27:22 GMT -5
How does that apply to copy right infringement? How will that apply to partners of the NCAA that may have consequences if they side against the NCAA . First rule of commerce. Do not piss off your customers. As I said it is easier said than done. What is a small business going to pay 100 bucks? That's the beauty of this whole situation.. it's not my problem to figure out.The NCAA has more than enough money to figure it. There are lawyers, pr managers, big business, medium business, small businesses and accountants that will probably figure it out. Probably be cheaper endorsements than going through NCAA. NCAA knows it is inevitable. They already given up the fight against NIL lawsuits. They fought It in court . What motivation would they have to do as you say? Is all they have to do is say do as you must. Just do involve us or there will be a problem. Now let's look at it from Niki . Let see, sell all these products to Hundreds of Universities or make sneakers with this guys name on it. That is a real tough decision. If someone stuck it to you. Would you help them figure it out going forward?
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Post by SG88 on Jun 29, 2021 18:27:51 GMT -5
I actually think that this will level the playing field across college sports. In future years, we won't see the same teams competing for championships on an annual basis. Like you mentioned, good luck Nicktator. The players won't have to be paid a fortune (allegedly but almost certainly) to go play in a town like Tuscaloosa, AL when they can make just as much to go play somewhere else or in a big market like NY. Syracuse might benefit big time from this, so I'm all for it. No way Syracuse can outspend Alabama for football players. Unless they have a salary cap, which their new union won't allow, it will be heavily tilted towards the power houses IMO. That's the point. Alabama's leverage will be weakened significantly. Remember, the school itself won't be spending money on the players. They might still pay for them regardless, but with the players now being able to market themselves away from the team and make a nice amount of cash, teams like SU and NC State are more on a level playing field.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 29, 2021 18:50:38 GMT -5
No way Syracuse can outspend Alabama for football players. Unless they have a salary cap, which their new union won't allow, it will be heavily tilted towards the power houses IMO. That's the point. Alabama's leverage will be weakened significantly. Remember, the school itself won't be spending money on the players. They might still pay for them regardless, but with the players now being able to market themselves away from the team and make a nice amount of cash, teams like SU and NC State are more on a level playing field. So, you think the schools will keep them on scholarship if they can't keep the money made? Doubt it. Eventually the cookie will crumble. These schools make millions off the players to pay the HCs and keep the programs rolling. Once that dries up, no more free education or new facilities ect. It will be interesting how they go forward with it all. I see a disaster.
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Post by TEM on Jun 29, 2021 18:55:32 GMT -5
That's the point. Alabama's leverage will be weakened significantly. Remember, the school itself won't be spending money on the players. They might still pay for them regardless, but with the players now being able to market themselves away from the team and make a nice amount of cash, teams like SU and NC State are more on a level playing field. So, you think the schools will keep them on scholarship if they can't keep the money made? Doubt it. Eventually the cookie will crumble. These schools make millions off the players to pay the HCs and keep the programs rolling. Once that dries up, no more free education or new facilities ect. It will be interesting how they go forward with it all. I see a disaster. If it is just endorsement deals . That won't even make it out of the gate. I laid it out in my two previous posts in this thread logical scenarios that I see taking place. Self promotion will have inherent issues associated with it.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jun 29, 2021 19:14:50 GMT -5
That's the beauty of this whole situation.. it's not my problem to figure out.The NCAA has more than enough money to figure it. There are lawyers, pr managers, big business, medium business, small businesses and accountants that will probably figure it out. Probably be cheaper endorsements than going through NCAA. NCAA knows it is inevitable. They already given up the fight against NIL lawsuits. They fought It in court . What motivation would they have to do as you say? Is all they have to do is say do as you must. Just do involve us or there will be a problem. Now let's look at it from Niki . Let see, sell all these products to Hundreds of Universities or make sneakers with this guys name on it. That is a real tough decision. If someone stuck it to you. Would you help them figure it out going forward? I not as business minded as you,actually far from it. You have come up with good scenarios.I worked for different companies good while now and I think Nike can do both. Keep current fans happy because of their loyalty to schools by making and marketing products through the school or NCAA to those fans. They can also open up niche markets to fans of the players themselves expanding to player's hometowns and younger fans that latch onto players more. The competition would be greater here as the player can go with whatever brand they want. I don't think they will lose customers because of this in the long run. Look at Nike and Colin Kaepernick. Nike stock took a hit but rebounded nicely. This is nothing close as polarizing to that. NCAA will have to go along if the want a piece of the pie. I not telling anyone to do anything. I am saying it is inevitable. I think if someone is using my name or face to make money for themselves I can tell them stop or give me a piece of the action. The NCAA doesn't like the first option. The second one still means cash flow. The NCAA is smart enough to see the writing on the wall.
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Post by TEM on Jun 29, 2021 19:20:18 GMT -5
They fought It in court . What motivation would they have to do as you say? Is all they have to do is say do as you must. Just do involve us or there will be a problem. Now let's look at it from Niki . Let see, sell all these products to Hundreds of Universities or make sneakers with this guys name on it. That is a real tough decision. If someone stuck it to you. Would you help them figure it out going forward? I not as business minded as you,actually far from it. You have come up with good scenarios.I worked for different companies good while now and I think Nike can do both. Keep current fans happy because of their loyalty to schools by making and marketing products through the school or NCAA to those fans. They can also open up niche markets to fans of the players themselves expanding to player's hometowns and younger fans that latch onto players more. The competition would be greater here as the player can go with whatever brand they want. I don't think they will lose customers because of this in the long run. Look at Nike and Colin Kaepernick. Nike stock took a hit but rebounded nicely. This is nothing close as polarizing to that. NCAA will have to go along if the want a piece of the pie. I not telling anyone to do anything. I am saying it is inevitable. I think if someone is using my name or face to make money for themselves I can tell them stop or give me a piece of the action. The NCAA doesn't like the first option. The second one still means cash flow. The NCAA is smart enough to see the writing on the wall. You are making it look as is the NCAA is ok with this. If they were the would not have defender their position in court. I would say their are pissed. I am sure Adidas Spalding Wilson would love to have Niki's contract if Niki chose to side with the players and give them permotions. They can do that. I can guarantee their risk analysts . Will say do not do it. The risk in the NCAA's contract going to a competitor is too great. You are talking millions of dollars on the line.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jun 29, 2021 19:44:51 GMT -5
I not as business minded as you,actually far from it. You have come up with good scenarios.I worked for different companies good while now and I think Nike can do both. Keep current fans happy because of their loyalty to schools by making and marketing products through the school or NCAA to those fans. They can also open up niche markets to fans of the players themselves expanding to player's hometowns and younger fans that latch onto players more. The competition would be greater here as the player can go with whatever brand they want. I don't think they will lose customers because of this in the long run. Look at Nike and Colin Kaepernick. Nike stock took a hit but rebounded nicely. This is nothing close as polarizing to that. NCAA will have to go along if the want a piece of the pie. I not telling anyone to do anything. I am saying it is inevitable. I think if someone is using my name or face to make money for themselves I can tell them stop or give me a piece of the action. The NCAA doesn't like the first option. The second one still means cash flow. The NCAA is smart enough to see the writing on the wall. You are making it look as is the NCAA is ok with this. I am sure Adidas Spalding Wilson would love to have Niki's contract if Niki chose to side with the players and give them permotions. They can do that. I can guarantee their risk analysts . Will say do not do it. The risk in the NCAA going to a competitor is too great. That's fine let the free market work and adapt. I am always for more competition. It let's me know capitalism is alive and well. You keep reading things that are not there. I am saying in my opinion this is inevitable and if NCAA is smart they would not hinder their sources of cash flow which inevitably in college sports is recruiting the best players. I learned in business the only sides there are are making money and not making money. It doesn't matter who sides with the players or not it is can you make a profit off this situation. You think Nike is going keep their contracts or the same percentages with Alambama even if attendance is waning because they are losing games due to 4 and 5 star recruits choosing colleges and states where they can actually make more money than if they went to Alabama? Let's face there are only a handful of college athlete that are driven to be the best most are just trying to give thier family a better life.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 29, 2021 19:46:27 GMT -5
Now do the Big football factory schools benefit even more does a smaller conference pay the same as the SEC or Big Ten or whatever the name is now ? Do the Military Academies have to pay players as well ? Can these small schools even compete ? What about the other sports beside the money makers football and basketball ? Do the women sports get paid the same ? What about performing arts ? What about the Band ? Why Not ? They get scholarships Ah there's always unintended consequences..... This is a "Pandora's Box" . I don't think that the schools will be paying their players directly, but the athletes will be allowed to profit from their likeness away from their fields of play. There's no way that the schools would directly pay those players because that would certainly create an unfair playing field where the richest schools would always get the best players. Thank you SG, That makes much more sense. There should be a lot less bumps in the road though I'm sure there will be plenty in how the money is divided say with jersey sales and alike. Both the school and the player can claim it's their jersey.
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Post by TEM on Jun 29, 2021 20:07:06 GMT -5
You are making it look as is the NCAA is ok with this. I am sure Adidas Spalding Wilson would love to have Niki's contract if Niki chose to side with the players and give them permotions. They can do that. I can guarantee their risk analysts . Will say do not do it. The risk in the NCAA going to a competitor is too great. That's fine let the free market work and adapt. I am always for more competition. It let's me know capitalism is alive and well. You keep reading things that are not there. I am saying in my opinion this is inevitable and if NCAA is smart they would not hinder their sources of cash flow which inevitably in college sports is recruiting the best players. I learned in business the only sides there are are making money and not making money. It doesn't matter who sides with the players or not it is can you make a profit off this situation. You think Nike is going keep their contracts or the same percentages with Alambama even if attendance is waning because they are losing games due to 4 and 5 star recruits choosing colleges and states where they can actually make more money than if they went to Alabama? Let's face there are only a handful of college athlete that are driven to be the best most are just trying to give thier family a better life. As I said The NCAA does not care . If they did . The would have not went to court. They will make this hard. They are the red wood in the forest gathering as much light as it can and the players do not have a chain saw. 10s of dollars may win in court. And the court can say you can do this. If you are a business that feeds off the billions another business produces. Who are you going to hedge you future on the billion dollars or the 10 dollars? This only works in pro sports because the leagues and the players have a mutually beneficial relationship. Because every 4years the 500 thousand collage athletes change. The NCAA does not have to seek that kind of relationship. There in no incentives to do so for a 3 or 4 year max interaction . As it relates to Football it is 3 years at most and poof they are gone . Then the next year the next 3 year guy is there. Explain why the NCAA would expend resourced to develop that every 3 years? The players can try to self promote. They will do it alone.
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Post by te88 on Jun 30, 2021 7:01:43 GMT -5
“College” football is basically a pro league disguised as a amateur league already
If it isn’t regulated like a pro league there is going to be an explosion of back door “investment” in these players off field marketing endeavours. Universities will be paying these players directly or underhandedly no matter what so they should just end the charade.
Who do we think is going to be investing in all the dumb marketing crap the players will start to undertake? The college that wants him to play for them of course.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jun 30, 2021 19:09:15 GMT -5
That's fine let the free market work and adapt. I am always for more competition. It let's me know capitalism is alive and well. You keep reading things that are not there. I am saying in my opinion this is inevitable and if NCAA is smart they would not hinder their sources of cash flow which inevitably in college sports is recruiting the best players. I learned in business the only sides there are are making money and not making money. It doesn't matter who sides with the players or not it is can you make a profit off this situation. You think Nike is going keep their contracts or the same percentages with Alambama even if attendance is waning because they are losing games due to 4 and 5 star recruits choosing colleges and states where they can actually make more money than if they went to Alabama? Let's face there are only a handful of college athlete that are driven to be the best most are just trying to give thier family a better life. As I said The NCAA does not care . If they did . The would have not went to court. They will make this hard. They are the red wood in the forest gathering as much light as it can and the players do not have a chain saw. 10s of dollars may win in court. And the court can say you can do this. If you are a business that feeds off the billions another business produces. Who are you going to hedge you future on the billion dollars or the 10 dollars? This only works in pro sports because the leagues and the players have a mutually beneficial relationship. Because every 4years the 500 thousand collage athletes change. The NCAA does not have to seek that kind of relationship. There in no incentives to do so for a 3 or 4 year max interaction . As it relates to Football it is 3 years at most and poof they are gone . Then the next year the next 3 year guy is there. Explain why the NCAA would expend resourced to develop that every 3 years? The players can try to self promote. They will do it alone. Looks like it official. www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31737039/ncaa-clears-student-athletes-pursue-name-image-likeness-deals
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Post by TEM on Jun 30, 2021 19:19:47 GMT -5
As I said The NCAA does not care . If they did . The would have not went to court. They will make this hard. They are the red wood in the forest gathering as much light as it can and the players do not have a chain saw. 10s of dollars may win in court. And the court can say you can do this. If you are a business that feeds off the billions another business produces. Who are you going to hedge you future on the billion dollars or the 10 dollars? This only works in pro sports because the leagues and the players have a mutually beneficial relationship. Because every 4years the 500 thousand collage athletes change. The NCAA does not have to seek that kind of relationship. There in no incentives to do so for a 3 or 4 year max interaction . As it relates to Football it is 3 years at most and poof they are gone . Then the next year the next 3 year guy is there. Explain why the NCAA would expend resourced to develop that every 3 years? The players can try to self promote. They will do it alone. Looks like it official. www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31737039/ncaa-clears-student-athletes-pursue-name-image-likeness-dealsThat does not mean the NCAA will do as the NFL does with its players. Singing autographs and the NCAA allowing them to sing helmets and jerseys are 2 different things. This is the beginning of the end of college sports.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jun 30, 2021 19:23:24 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 1, 2021 10:08:48 GMT -5
Dabo Swinney: If they want to 'professionalize' college athletics, 'maybe I'll go to the pros'"Who knows what's going to happen down the road? I have no idea," Swinney said. "I just try to be great where my feet are. That's my focus every day. Who knows? They may do away with college football in three years. There may be no college football. They may want to professionalize college athletics. Well, then, maybe I'll go to the pros. If I'm going to coach pro football, I might as well do that. I may get a terrible president or a terrible AD one day. I don't know. I have no idea what's down the road. But I know what we have at Clemson is special, and I wanted to make a commitment to the university. That's what the message of the contract was." Swinney in 2019
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Post by imgrate on Jul 1, 2021 11:20:36 GMT -5
Dabo Swinney: If they want to 'professionalize' college athletics, 'maybe I'll go to the pros'"Who knows what's going to happen down the road? I have no idea," Swinney said. "I just try to be great where my feet are. That's my focus every day. Who knows? They may do away with college football in three years. There may be no college football. They may want to professionalize college athletics. Well, then, maybe I'll go to the pros. If I'm going to coach pro football, I might as well do that. I may get a terrible president or a terrible AD one day. I don't know. I have no idea what's down the road. But I know what we have at Clemson is special, and I wanted to make a commitment to the university. That's what the message of the contract was." Swinney in 2019 I think he's just saying all kinds of random shit can happen not that he thinks it will happen.
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