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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2021 10:47:10 GMT -5
I want to see more of bad moon Rysen John. He seemed to be last weeks biggest standout. I would also like to see what Ross can do. Darnay Holmes and Julian Love need to get better. Love (a 23 year old with 3 years NFL experience who plays every single position in the secondary) is still being questioned whether he belongs, crazy lol Every time his name is mentioned .There is no Love .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 10:48:05 GMT -5
Love (a 23 year old with 3 years NFL experience who plays every single position in the secondary) is still being questioned whether he belongs, crazy lol Every time his name is mentioned .There is no Love . As it should be when playing safety.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2021 10:51:05 GMT -5
Every time his name is mentioned .There is no Love . As it should be when playing safety. Come on Gunner, He gets burned more than bread in a faulty toaster. We can't have guys like that on the field anymore. We have options now. If he cannot get it together. What do you do with him?
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Post by spaceweather on Aug 22, 2021 10:55:50 GMT -5
My biggest concern is that our QB, who's biggest problem in my view is pocket awareness, will be facing Von Miller and Bradley Chubb without seeing a real live pass rush in 8 months.
He's going to play against the Pats from what I heard.
As far as pocket awareness goes, which QB's excel when under duress?
We all saw what an inept Oline did to Eli Manning's career. Eli went from being a someone who could move well (inside the pocket) to find a passing lane to someone who killed plays from phantom pressure.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I'd just like to see him get some decent playing time behind a decent line and with some decent playmakers.
I am more concerned about him having barely any time with Golladay or Toney who are both still out.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 10:56:59 GMT -5
As it should be when playing safety. Come on Gunner, He gets burned more than bread in a faulty toaster. We can't have guys like that on the field anymore. We have options now. If he cannot get it together. What do you do with him? I like my toast burned I piss off all tbe other guests at breakfast buffets when I turn up the conveyer belt toaster to volcano mode
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Post by McCherry on Aug 22, 2021 10:58:00 GMT -5
I'm guessing Stepnoski told him he isn't playing his starters on defense as well Not a fan of this but it makes a lot of sense in that both teams got some great work in this week for a longer stretch than the 2 or e series they would be playing From all indicators we are playing our starters a lot week 3 as probably a lot of other teams so id rather them get their work in a game 2 weeks before the start And I think the scrimmages prepare you better than a preseason game. Starters vs. starters, more reps, situational drills, etc.
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Post by McCherry on Aug 22, 2021 11:06:50 GMT -5
My biggest concern is that our QB, who's biggest problem in my view is pocket awareness, will be facing Von Miller and Bradley Chubb without seeing a real live pass rush in 8 months.
He's going to play against the Pats from what I heard.
As far as pocket awareness goes, which QB's excel when under duress?
We all saw what an inept Oline did to Eli Manning's career. Eli went from being a someone who could move well (inside the pocket) to find a passing lane to someone who killed plays from phantom pressure.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I'd just like to see him get some decent playing time behind a decent line and with some decent playmakers.
You're not going to master pocket awareness in a few preseason snaps. The idea is to get rid of the ball and execute the passing game, and protect the QB. That's what they've been practicing all summer.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 11:07:21 GMT -5
I'm guessing Stepnoski told him he isn't playing his starters on defense as well Not a fan of this but it makes a lot of sense in that both teams got some great work in this week for a longer stretch than the 2 or e series they would be playing From all indicators we are playing our starters a lot week 3 as probably a lot of other teams so id rather them get their work in a game 2 weeks before the start And I think the scrimmages prepare you better than a preseason game. Starters vs. starters, more reps, situational drills, etc. Evsrone gets more work Backups as well Week 3 is going to be the dress rehearsal week..let players get hit and feel hits 2 weeks before the season starts The preseason games are for situations it seems that you can't simulate in practice...mainly special teams /coverage units... Seems the entire league adapted this idea Will be interesting to see how week one looks like because we have seen very preseason level caliber of play lwaguewixe week one for a few years now
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Post by fifthavephil on Aug 22, 2021 11:07:55 GMT -5
Big Ben played some last night. They lost De Castro , Pouncey and one other Ol. There OL is under contruction. Judge and Sefanski , should play there starters for at least a quarter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 11:11:13 GMT -5
And I think the scrimmages prepare you better than a preseason game. Starters vs. starters, more reps, situational drills, etc. Evsrone gets more work Backups as well Week 3 is going to be the dress rehearsal week..let players get hit and feel hits 2 weeks before the season starts The preseason games are for situations it seems that you can't simulate in practice...mainly special teams /coverage units... Seems the entire league adapted this idea Will be interesting to see how week one looks like because we have seen very preseason level caliber of play lwaguewixe week one for a few years now I think the covid season made the coaches realize they didn't have to do as much with the proven guys/vets going into a season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 11:14:55 GMT -5
I hope they get Sills matched up against Greedy. I want to see how Sills handles pure speed on him after a week of 1 on 1s
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 11:24:37 GMT -5
I hope they get Sills matched up against Greedy. I want to see how Sills handles pure speed on him after a week of 1 on 1s Thats if Greedy plays
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Post by bluebuddha on Aug 22, 2021 11:27:43 GMT -5
Big Ben played some last night. They lost De Castro , Pouncey and one other Ol. There OL is under contruction. Judge and Sefanski , should play there starters for at least a quarter. I think Mahomes played also. I saw CEH go down too so I don't know if his injury was serious. Their other rb also got concussed.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 11:31:15 GMT -5
Big Ben played some last night. They lost De Castro , Pouncey and one other Ol. There OL is under contruction. Judge and Sefanski , should play there starters for at least a quarter. That move Haris put on that safety on that 45 yard reception was ridiculous These backs seem to be getting bigger and have anole breaking moves like Sanders (that is tbe one thing people ignore about Derrick Henry is he has very top end cutting ability,defenders see a big guy and tvey assume he is looking to bulldoze you and then they make you look ridiculous because as you are bracing for contact you wiff
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 22, 2021 11:34:43 GMT -5
There you go, no ones playing! No sense watching! BTW - Will they play in the third game!
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Post by spaceweather on Aug 22, 2021 11:36:54 GMT -5
There you go, no ones playing! No sense watching! BTW - Will they play in the third game! They should play a half according to Giants beats/what Judge said
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 11:39:39 GMT -5
Odell playing today??? He's fully dressed and warming up 👀
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Post by dvision on Aug 22, 2021 11:40:59 GMT -5
So.. according to McGinest the Giants are going about the preseason in the wrong manner because Jones needs to get on the same page with his new weapons. He then proceeds to mention Toney, Golliday, and Rudolph. Next he says the Browns are correct to sit starters because they have a ton of injuries. How do these folks get paid to be so clueless?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 11:42:13 GMT -5
So.. according to McGinest the Giants are going about the preseason in the wrong manner because Jones needs to get on the same page with his new weapons. He then proceeds to mention Toney, Golliday, and Rudolph. Next he says the Browns are correct to sit starters because they have a ton of injuries. How do these folks get paid to be so clueless? because McGinest knows what we're doing is BS (still smart imo) and calling us out for it. I doubt Judge gives a shit.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 22, 2021 11:43:58 GMT -5
So.. according to McGinest the Giants are going about the preseason in the wrong manner because Jones needs to get on the same page with his new weapons. He then proceeds to mention Toney, Golliday, and Rudolph. Next he says the Browns are correct to sit starters because they have a ton of injuries. How do these folks get paid to be so clueless? How do you compare Jones to Mayfield? I wouldn't play Mayfield either. Jones needs to play! Come on man!
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Post by dvision on Aug 22, 2021 11:47:56 GMT -5
So.. according to McGinest the Giants are going about the preseason in the wrong manner because Jones needs to get on the same page with his new weapons. He then proceeds to mention Toney, Golliday, and Rudolph. Next he says the Browns are correct to sit starters because they have a ton of injuries. How do these folks get paid to be so clueless? How do you compare Jones to Mayfield? I wouldn't play Mayfield either. Jones needs to play! Come on man! Yeah... you must be lost too. How does he get on the same page with 3 players that are injured?
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Post by 3days on Aug 22, 2021 11:50:09 GMT -5
Yea, I am fine with sitting our starters. Given the joint practices they are getting plenty of real life reps.
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Post by Kase1 on Aug 22, 2021 11:51:18 GMT -5
I want to see more of bad moon Rysen John. He seemed to be last weeks biggest standout. I would also like to see what Ross can do. Darnay Holmes and Julian Love need to get better. Love (a 23 year old with 3 years NFL experience who plays every single position in the secondary) is still being questioned whether he belongs, crazy lol Of course he belongs, he is a great depth asset in the 2ndary. He can play either safety spot, slot or outside cb. While he isnt "great" at any of those spots, he is good enough. His versatility also works in his favor when it comes to making the roster
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 11:53:47 GMT -5
He's going to play against the Pats from what I heard.
As far as pocket awareness goes, which QB's excel when under duress?
We all saw what an inept Oline did to Eli Manning's career. Eli went from being a someone who could move well (inside the pocket) to find a passing lane to someone who killed plays from phantom pressure.
I'm not saying you're wrong but I'd just like to see him get some decent playing time behind a decent line and with some decent playmakers.
I am more concerned about him having barely any time with Golladay or Toney who are both still out. So Toney is definitely out? When is this going to end? This is the shit I’m sick of.
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Post by Bigjeep on Aug 22, 2021 11:55:09 GMT -5
How do you compare Jones to Mayfield? I wouldn't play Mayfield either. Jones needs to play! Come on man! Yeah... you must be lost too. How does he get on the same page with 3 players that are injured? We don't even know if Jones is the real deal! He needs to play with the work in progress OL. We are going into a 17 game season blind if they don't play! He could go down in the first game, it's FOOTBALL!
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 22, 2021 11:58:12 GMT -5
given the weather here today, I'm glad it's being played in Cleveland.
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Post by dvision on Aug 22, 2021 11:58:16 GMT -5
Yeah... you must be lost too. How does he get on the same page with 3 players that are injured? We don't even know if Jones is the real deal! He needs to play with the work in progress OL. We are going into a 17 game season blind if they don't play! He could go down in the first game, it's FOOTBALL! You still are missing my point... smh. I DON"T CARE! Lol.... that's not even what I was talking about Champ! RELAX!
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Post by vinnie on Aug 22, 2021 11:58:19 GMT -5
Every. single. thing. If you know you know. Man...preseason has changed over the years. It's not like it's just us who are holding starters out in these games. The entire league is doing it.
I guess they don't want to expose their top players to untested rookies trying to make a team.
I’ve seen a lot of other starting QB’s play and it’s not like all but two of those teams (us being 1 of the 2) had the worst offense, worst QB and worst O line in the league last year. If anyone should be playing their starters its us. At least they can’t use the “we had no pre season” excuse this year, they had it and chose not to start their most deficient players until the last game.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 22, 2021 12:00:01 GMT -5
Man...preseason has changed over the years. It's not like it's just us who are holding starters out in these games. The entire league is doing it.
I guess they don't want to expose their top players to untested rookies trying to make a team.
I’ve seen a lot of other starting QB’s play and it’s not like all but two of those teams (us being 1 of the 2) had the worst offense, worst QB and worst O line in the league last year. If anyone should be playing their starters its us. At least they can’t use the “we had no pre season” excuse this year, they had it and chose not to start their most deficient players until the last game. you have no idea how much missing last years preseason continues to set us back
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 12:05:51 GMT -5
I’ve seen a lot of other starting QB’s play and it’s not like all but two of those teams (us being 1 of the 2) had the worst offense, worst QB and worst O line in the league last year. If anyone should be playing their starters its us. At least they can’t use the “we had no pre season” excuse this year, they had it and chose not to start their most deficient players until the last game. you have no idea how much missing last years preseason continues to set us back The difference between a "joint practice 11 on 11" & "an official preaseason game drive" is the venue and attendance.
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