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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 2, 2021 8:34:18 GMT -5
I like what little tape I've seen. He has a gun. He stands 6'4 which is pretty good, and he's coming out of Josh Allen's division. This is a guy that can rise up the boards with a strong season and what I feel is a weak QB class.
He's a guy that can turn into #1 due to measurables and combine showing.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 2, 2021 11:31:09 GMT -5
I like what little tape I've seen. He has a gun. He stands 6'4 which is pretty good, and he's coming out of Josh Allen's division. This is a guy that can rise up the boards with a strong season and what I feel is a weak QB class. He's a guy that can turn into #1 due to measurables and combine showing. As far as weak class I really think Ratler can be the real deal...reminds me so much of Mayfield right down to his smaller size (size is kinda irrelevant in this era ) |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 8, 2021 10:56:06 GMT -5
But Mayfield sucks  respectfully Why I say the class looks weak before watching a single down. They have a bunch of 6' - 6'2 guys coming out which is not ideal. The QB Willis from Houston is also a guy to watch. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Sept 8, 2021 11:11:47 GMT -5
But Mayfield sucks respectfully Why I say the class looks weak before watching a single down. They have a bunch of 6' - 6'2 guys coming out which is not ideal. The QB Willis from Houston is also a guy to watch. I agree with this. Except for Willis I haven't watched him much. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 9, 2021 10:56:53 GMT -5
Strong is getting some hype. CBS Sports mocked him #2 overall to Detroit.
"Strong has everything needed to go this early in the 2022 draft. He's experienced with a strong arm, quick release, and great accuracy. Plus, he's bound to have a monstrous 2021 thanks to the skill-position talent around him."
They also had us getting Ratler.
"The Giants probably need to make the playoffs for Dave Gettleman and Daniel Jones to keep their jobs. If New York isn't a postseason team, there'll be a new quarterback in the shotgun next year, and this is good value with Rattler at No. 6 overall."
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 9, 2021 13:37:42 GMT -5
Strong is getting some hype. CBS Sports mocked him #2 overall to Detroit. "Strong has everything needed to go this early in the 2022 draft. He's experienced with a strong arm, quick release, and great accuracy. Plus, he's bound to have a monstrous 2021 thanks to the skill-position talent around him." They also had us getting Ratler. "The Giants probably need to make the playoffs for Dave Gettleman and Daniel Jones to keep their jobs. If New York isn't a postseason team, there'll be a new quarterback in the shotgun next year, and this is good value with Rattler at No. 6 overall." .I don't get this hate for shorter qbs,especially considering this is the new norm And no,Mayfield does not suck,his skillsets scream elite level and his trajectory minus a 2nd year hiccup is headed that way.. Ratler is my guy and if we have to do a qube change I'd be happy as shit . Right now ratler is the obvious number 1 I've only seen Corral once but he definitely has me interested to see more Let's hope all this is moot in 4 weeks and the early pick is the Bears's pick and we are starting discussions for what would be a good BPA pick in the 7-11 range |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 9, 2021 13:42:04 GMT -5
Strong is getting some hype. CBS Sports mocked him #2 overall to Detroit. "Strong has everything needed to go this early in the 2022 draft. He's experienced with a strong arm, quick release, and great accuracy. Plus, he's bound to have a monstrous 2021 thanks to the skill-position talent around him." They also had us getting Ratler. "The Giants probably need to make the playoffs for Dave Gettleman and Daniel Jones to keep their jobs. If New York isn't a postseason team, there'll be a new quarterback in the shotgun next year, and this is good value with Rattler at No. 6 overall." .I don't get this hate for shorter qbs,especially considering this is the new norm And no,Mayfield does not suck,his skillsets scream elite level and his trajectory minus a 2nd year hiccup is headed that way.. Ratler is my guy and if we have to do a qube change I'd be happy as shit . Right now ratler is the obvious number 1 I've only seen Corral once but he definitely has me interested to see more Let's hope all this is moot in 4 weeks and the early pick is the Bears's pick and we are starting discussions for what would be a good BPA pick in the 7-11 range Didn't watch much of Ratler. How is his arm strength? We need someone with a strong arm and bigger ish hands for these Nov Dec games at home. Definitely appears as of now to be a 3 horse race between Strong, Ratler and Corral. Not a fan of the UNC QB. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 14, 2021 19:54:43 GMT -5
Game 1
22/39 312 yards 2 TD's and 1 INT
The problem for me is that I need to see him face a team that can pressure him in the pocket.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2021 21:24:58 GMT -5
.I don't get this hate for shorter qbs,especially considering this is the new norm And no,Mayfield does not suck,his skillsets scream elite level and his trajectory minus a 2nd year hiccup is headed that way.. Ratler is my guy and if we have to do a qube change I'd be happy as shit . Right now ratler is the obvious number 1 I've only seen Corral once but he definitely has me interested to see more Let's hope all this is moot in 4 weeks and the early pick is the Bears's pick and we are starting discussions for what would be a good BPA pick in the 7-11 range Didn't watch much of Ratler. How is his arm strength? We need someone with a strong arm and bigger ish hands for these Nov Dec games at home. Definitely appears as of now to be a 3 horse race between Strong, Ratler and Corral. Not a fan of the UNC QB. Reminds me a lot of Mayfield Shorter,compact throw,good arm ..mobile..seems to have an it factor.. He had a sick duel against Erlanger last year... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2021 21:25:43 GMT -5
Game 1 22/39 312 yards 2 TD's and 1 INT The problem for me is that I need to see him face a team that can pressure him in the pocket. Problem is ,is he facing a team that can pressure the pocket this year |
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Post by ratbastich on Sept 15, 2021 16:00:55 GMT -5
Slovis might be someone to keep an eye on for USC though a lot of USC QBs seem to tank in the NFL of late
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 15, 2021 20:16:03 GMT -5
Slovis might be someone to keep an eye on for USC though a lot of USC QBs seem to tank in the NFL of late Bleh Not impressed at all |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 22, 2021 21:40:03 GMT -5
Malik Willis is also someone to look out for creeping up boards.
Liberty QB takes on Cuse this weekend so I'll get to watch him.
Like a poor man's Lamar Jackson out there. Good arm, electric fast.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Oct 28, 2021 16:06:50 GMT -5
I like Matt Coral now since i watch Ole Miss games. Again, he is a bit undersized.
That guy Malik Willis from Liberty.....man, if we needed a QB, that's the guy to hold you down while your OL sucks. That man does not need an OL to make plays and defenders want no parts of him outside the pocket. Lamar Jackson part 2?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 20:53:19 GMT -5
I like Matt Coral now since i watch Ole Miss games. Again, he is a bit undersized. That guy Malik Willis from Liberty.....man, if we needed a QB, that's the guy to hold you down while your OL sucks. That man does not need an OL to make plays and defenders want no parts of him outside the pocket. Lamar Jackson part 2? I believe he's QB1 and will be the first player taken.... |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 29, 2021 9:13:24 GMT -5
I like Matt Coral now since i watch Ole Miss games. Again, he is a bit undersized. That guy Malik Willis from Liberty.....man, if we needed a QB, that's the guy to hold you down while your OL sucks. That man does not need an OL to make plays and defenders want no parts of him outside the pocket. Lamar Jackson part 2? I believe he's QB1 and will be the first player taken.... Definitely fits the Kyler Murray mold. Not as good a passer however IMO. The traits though, the electric speed, the live arm, its there. Built more like aRB playing QB. I could see the Lions interested if they have the #1. Certainly fits the "Todays NFL QB" bill. Just need s solid HC to take him in. Wonder if it would be a Hugh Freeze / Malik Willis combo package like Arizona took on. So much Rattler love here and he got benched lol |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 30, 2021 9:56:50 GMT -5
I believe he's QB1 and will be the first player taken.... Definitely fits the Kyler Murray mold. Not as good a passer however IMO. The traits though, the electric speed, the live arm, its there. Built more like aRB playing QB. I could see the Lions interested if they have the #1. Certainly fits the "Todays NFL QB" bill. Just need s solid HC to take him in. Wonder if it would be a Hugh Freeze / Malik Willis combo package like Arizona took on. So much Rattler love here and he got benched lol Ratler turned into the wish version of all their qbs he replaced.. He wished he could be those guys.. Strange... He litterally fell apart after a few bad games...not a good look |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 4, 2021 18:55:47 GMT -5
Malik Willis and Toney would be a problem for teams.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Dec 2, 2021 21:45:05 GMT -5
He has an arm. Plenty of zip on the ball in tight windows. He hits the receiver in stride on deep passes to the boundary. He will creep up boards once they test him.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 21:52:08 GMT -5
If we are QB shopping with one of our 1st rd picks while also looking to shed some baggage, how about trading a 1st, Jones and Barkley for Trevor?
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Post by Blue Hulk on Dec 3, 2021 14:25:14 GMT -5
We could get Russell Wilson before Trevor. But it would be both #1's and next years...and jones.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 3, 2021 15:41:01 GMT -5
On Michael Kay they were seriously discussing if the Giants should offer DJ and both 1sts to Seattle for Wilson. With or without DJ, Seattle might do that. I'm no sure I'd make that trade, but it's seems about right.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2021 17:03:07 GMT -5
On Michael Kay they were seriously discussing if the Giants should offer DJ and both 1sts to Seattle for Wilson. With or without DJ, Seattle might do that. I'm no sure I'd make that trade, but it's seems about right. And still have a shit o line and no pass rush and kill our cap Seattle will want more |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Dec 15, 2021 16:26:55 GMT -5
12/7/21: Strong has completed 70 percent of his passes this season for 4,186 yards, 36 touchdowns and eight interceptions. In speaking to two NFL scouting directors, they each said Strong was a legit early-round prospect, but they did not have him graded as a high first-rounder.
This is from Walter football. He is currently their 4th ranked QB in the draft.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 29, 2022 2:45:52 GMT -5
Man, I would love Daboll to coach this kid up......  |
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Post by Speedman on Jan 29, 2022 9:01:45 GMT -5
On Michael Kay they were seriously discussing if the Giants should offer DJ and both 1sts to Seattle for Wilson. With or without DJ, Seattle might do that. I'm no sure I'd make that trade, but it's seems about right. They would be crazy to offer that for Wilson. By the time they could build a team for him to win with he would be ready to retire. |
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Post by rbe40 on Feb 4, 2022 9:57:29 GMT -5
Yup, this is the guy for the NYG. QB1 in this class. Best arm, best accuracy, best processing skills. Makes every throw on the field. Beautiful deep ball with a teardrop. Makes all the protection calls and pre-snap audibles. Justin Herbert 2.0 thedraftnetwork.com/articles/carson-strong-2022-senior-bowl-nfl-draftDaboll would love this guy. If the Giants go QB, it's Carson Strong. Question is, where do u pick him? |
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Post by fifthavephil on Feb 4, 2022 10:06:29 GMT -5
Didn't watch much of Ratler. How is his arm strength? We need someone with a strong arm and bigger ish hands for these Nov Dec games at home. Definitely appears as of now to be a 3 horse race between Strong, Ratler and Corral. Not a fan of the UNC QB. Reminds me a lot of Mayfield Shorter,compact throw,good arm ..mobile..seems to have an it factor.. He had a sick duel against Erlanger last year... Ratler , transfer to South Carolina . He is not in this year draft. |
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Post by fifthavephil on Feb 4, 2022 10:09:36 GMT -5
Yup, this is the guy for the NYG. QB1 in this class. Best arm, best accuracy, best processing skills. Makes every throw on the field. Beautiful deep ball with a teardrop. Makes all the protection calls and pre-snap audibles. Justin Herbert 2.0 thedraftnetwork.com/articles/carson-strong-2022-senior-bowl-nfl-draftDaboll would love this guy. If the Giants go QB, it's Carson Strong. Question is, where do u pick him? Strong has a metal rod and pins in his leg. Reason , he was not recruited by colleges. He is a high risk , a traditional pocket passer. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Feb 4, 2022 11:15:20 GMT -5
Yup, this is the guy for the NYG. QB1 in this class. Best arm, best accuracy, best processing skills. Makes every throw on the field. Beautiful deep ball with a teardrop. Makes all the protection calls and pre-snap audibles. Justin Herbert 2.0 thedraftnetwork.com/articles/carson-strong-2022-senior-bowl-nfl-draftDaboll would love this guy. If the Giants go QB, it's Carson Strong. Question is, where do u pick him? Strong has a metal rod and pins in his leg. Reason , he was not recruited by colleges. He is a high risk , a traditional pocket passer. He hasn't really stood out in Senior Bowl practices either. Atleast the sources I have read the last 3 days. |
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