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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 20, 2021 9:40:32 GMT -5
Sounds right. They’re the same as everybody else here, they’ll have the answer after it happens. We’re really all just sharing our feelings about the weekend weather. We talk about it all week then watch to see what happens then talk about it some more. Here it’s 72 degrees, sunny and beautiful today. It’s supposed to be upper 90’s here today which is probably part of the reason for my extra foul mood. Hot, humid and having to deal with cowboys crap all week since they won. I can see The Star from where I’m at right now, blah. I think tomorrow we get our “cool” front and it should be mid 80’s for the rest of the week. Ew. I like Texas, but right now it’s one of the last places I’d want to be. |
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Post by jb456 on Sept 20, 2021 9:45:52 GMT -5
Agree think maybe 3rd down defense probably tops the list, Last year it was the offense. This year it now resembles from 2013 through 2015 where TC finally would just go for it on 4th down instead of sending there defense out to give up the lead. If they don't get their defensive struggles straight it will be an extremely long year and most likely big changes. When I watched these first 2 games it gave me a sick feeling. Things aren't going to get better this year since they still need a MLB and a couple of steady pass rushers.. It's sad but I agree. The Giants just made 2 journeyman QB's look like top 5 QBs and did little to pressure them. It doesn't even matter if the secondary improves if the pass rush doesn't take 2 huge steps forward. You can't ask corners to defend receivers for 8 freaking seconds. The QB's are sipping espresso while listening to classical music while they pick the Giants defense apart. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2021 10:17:28 GMT -5
It’s supposed to be upper 90’s here today which is probably part of the reason for my extra foul mood. Hot, humid and having to deal with cowboys crap all week since they won. I can see The Star from where I’m at right now, blah. I think tomorrow we get our “cool” front and it should be mid 80’s for the rest of the week. Ew. I like Texas, but right now it’s one of the last places I’d want to be. I hate DFW, as soon as I can retire I’m headed north, like CO, MT north. Mountains, cool frigid air, nice summers, snowboarding, hiking, rafting, fishing. There’s nothing to do in this concrete jungle but go to work and the gym. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 20, 2021 10:18:47 GMT -5
Agree think maybe 3rd down defense probably tops the list, Last year it was the offense. This year it now resembles from 2013 through 2015 where TC finally would just go for it on 4th down instead of sending there defense out to give up the lead. If they don't get their defensive struggles straight it will be an extremely long year and most likely big changes. When I watched these first 2 games it gave me a sick feeling. Things aren't going to get better this year since they still need a MLB and a couple of steady pass rushers.. He did a good job scheming up pressure last year but it is a different group on the edges Fackrell was a smart kid could help in coverage and in the rush. Agree if they can't manufacture a pass rush they are dead. |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 20, 2021 10:32:23 GMT -5
The Chiefs unfortunately forgot about their defense. It's the worst in the league.
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 20, 2021 10:52:59 GMT -5
My guess it is has something to do with the Chiefs having way less holes than we had when DG took over. Since he got here there was almost a 100% roster turnover, meanwhile over in KC they have a HOF QB, all star level talent all over the place and could focus this offseason on fixing the OL. Oh and while we are at it the combo of Andy Reid + Patrick Mahommes probably covers up a lot of stuff the OL does.
Who knows though, maybe we are just the worst ever.
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Post by lexington11 on Sept 20, 2021 11:35:16 GMT -5
Uhmm. The giants oline played pretty well against Washington’s alledged top dline unit. The chiefs line didn’t look much better than the giants.
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Post by Martin on Sept 20, 2021 12:06:18 GMT -5
I am not one to give praise for this team as winning is the only stat that matters but I applaud the oline and Thomas. The challenge they faced against Washington was big and when you add in the Oline shuffling that took place it was impressive on how well they played. Can they keep doing it and be consistent? I am not sure just yet but it was a step in the right direction. They need a win badly. I watched Atlanta and the Giants can beat them if the defense shows up and we see the offense like we did at Washington. Thomas needs consistency now he needs this every week Not sure how this reshuffling will look once teams get tape on the new pieces we will find out don't think it is a coincidence that once Flarety came in to help these young OL coaches things seem to be getting in order. Coaches are a vital piece to the puzzle and talent that has upside and a high ceiling. Lets hope it keeps improving as from what I saw yesterday there are a lot of talented teams at the moment. Very competitive. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 20, 2021 12:24:44 GMT -5
Thomas needs consistency now he needs this every week Not sure how this reshuffling will look once teams get tape on the new pieces we will find out don't think it is a coincidence that once Flarety came in to help these young OL coaches things seem to be getting in order. Coaches are a vital piece to the puzzle and talent that has upside and a high ceiling. Lets hope it keeps improving as from what I saw yesterday there are a lot of talented teams at the moment. Very competitive. Flarety always found away with TC to keep Eli upright and chucking it, that was the biggest mistake NacAdoo made trying to protect with 5 or 6 and ask Eli to elude the pressure, He was a pure pocket passer and one of the better ones OBJ never had great numbers after leaving part of that was the QB play along with his great talent. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 20, 2021 12:27:04 GMT -5
My guess it is has something to do with the Chiefs having way less holes than we had when DG took over. Since he got here there was almost a 100% roster turnover, meanwhile over in KC they have a HOF QB, all star level talent all over the place and could focus this offseason on fixing the OL. Oh and while we are at it the combo of Andy Reid + Patrick Mahommes probably covers up a lot of stuff the OL does. Who knows though, maybe we are just the worst ever. Alex Smith was kicking ass and taking names in KC before they drafted Mahomes they had a good team waiting for their new dynamic QB. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2021 12:31:56 GMT -5
My guess it is has something to do with the Chiefs having way less holes than we had when DG took over. Since he got here there was almost a 100% roster turnover, meanwhile over in KC they have a HOF QB, all star level talent all over the place and could focus this offseason on fixing the OL. Oh and while we are at it the combo of Andy Reid + Patrick Mahommes probably covers up a lot of stuff the OL does. Who knows though, maybe we are just the worst ever. 4 New starters, one of who is a guard and was there for us in the 6th round. Lol, unbelievable the amount of excuses that never end for Gettleman. First priority, fix O line, 4 years later still not fixed. So even with all the other holes to fill, Gettleman couldn’t do in 4 years what the Chiefs did in one off season? Now the coaching isn’t good enough, the QB isn’t good enough, their O line really isn’t any better than ours but gets covered up… so what has this team or Gettleman done right, because it’s all tied together. Let’s see, I know two things the Giants are top 5 at. 1) Losing 2) Making excuses That’s a recipe for success right there! |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2021 12:36:03 GMT -5
Uhmm. The giants oline played pretty well against Washington’s alledged top dline unit. The chiefs line didn’t look much better than the giants. No, and I don’t care of it looked the same. The point is, they did in one off season what DG hasn’t done in 4 years but keep the excuses coming, I know someone will always have a few. And you got alleged right, starting to wonder about that Washington line after the Chargers (only team ranked with a worse O line than ours) also held up ok against Washington. |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 20, 2021 18:02:35 GMT -5
4 New starters, one of who is a guard and was there for us in the 6th round. Lol, unbelievable the amount of excuses that never end for Gettleman. First priority, fix O line, 4 years later still not fixed. So even with all the other holes to fill, Gettleman couldn’t do in 4 years what the Chiefs did in one off season? Now the coaching isn’t good enough, the QB isn’t good enough, their O line really isn’t any better than ours but gets covered up… so what has this team or Gettleman done right, because it’s all tied together. Let’s see, I know two things the Giants are top 5 at. 1) Losing 2) Making excuses That’s a recipe for success right there! What excuse did I make for DG? You asked about KC and I talked about KC. You seem to be grasping at straws man. I know you really want to drag people into this argument about DG and the OL "cause he promised you". Honestly this seems like some grown man complaining that 35 years ago your dad promised to get you a Nintendo and didn't and you're still upset.
If you can't see the different between the Chiefs and the Giants I'm not sure what to tell you. I'll let you fight with others, but not a single thing I posted was an excuse or had anything to do with the Giants.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 20, 2021 19:37:37 GMT -5
4 New starters, one of who is a guard and was there for us in the 6th round. Lol, unbelievable the amount of excuses that never end for Gettleman. First priority, fix O line, 4 years later still not fixed. So even with all the other holes to fill, Gettleman couldn’t do in 4 years what the Chiefs did in one off season? Now the coaching isn’t good enough, the QB isn’t good enough, their O line really isn’t any better than ours but gets covered up… so what has this team or Gettleman done right, because it’s all tied together. Let’s see, I know two things the Giants are top 5 at. 1) Losing 2) Making excuses That’s a recipe for success right there! What excuse did I make for DG? You asked about KC and I talked about KC. You seem to be grasping at straws man. I know you really want to drag people into this argument about DG and the OL "cause he promised you". Honestly this seems like some grown man complaining that 35 years ago your dad promised to get you a Nintendo and didn't and you're still upset.
If you can't see the different between the Chiefs and the Giants I'm not sure what to tell you. I'll let you fight with others, but not a single thing I posted was an excuse or had anything to do with the Giants.
I wasn’t specifically referring to you about Gettleman, my entire thread is about why Gettleman couldn’t build an O line in 4 years and the Chiefs could do it in one off season. And thanks for the compliment but I think I sound more like a frustrated fan that’s sick of losing and sick of hearing the bs excuses made for this crappy owner and GM. You keep your head up for the rest of us camper, maybe next year we can both have something to celebrate if they actually have a winning season. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 20, 2021 20:23:26 GMT -5
Ew. I like Texas, but right now it’s one of the last places I’d want to be. I hate DFW, as soon as I can retire I’m headed north, like CO, MT north. Mountains, cool frigid air, nice summers, snowboarding, hiking, rafting, fishing. There’s nothing to do in this concrete jungle but go to work and the gym. Me too but it seems like I can't avoid if I want to fly anywhere. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 21, 2021 9:41:35 GMT -5
I hate DFW, as soon as I can retire I’m headed north, like CO, MT north. Mountains, cool frigid air, nice summers, snowboarding, hiking, rafting, fishing. There’s nothing to do in this concrete jungle but go to work and the gym. Me too but it seems like I can't avoid if I want to fly anywhere. That may be one of the only positives living in DFW is American Airlines hub is here. |
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 21, 2021 10:53:34 GMT -5
Can any Dave Gettleman supporters tell me why I’m sitting here watching the KC O line hold their own against one of the best defensive lines in the league when 4 of the 5 O linemen are first time starters and we’re going on year 4 under DG who made the O line his first priority but I’m still hearing excuses of how it takes several years to build an O line. I can use several other teams as examples as well if you care to debate. My point exactly. It’s been 10 freaking years. They wasted the end of Manning’s career, trashing Barkley with nowhere to run and have stunted DJ’s development. Great, pass pro was much better but until they can show a sustained run game, the oline is NOT fixed. There are no holes to run through and I’m tired of seeing our RBs getting hit in the backfield. It’s unbelievable…10 freaking years!!! |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 21, 2021 20:00:42 GMT -5
I wasn’t specifically referring to you about Gettleman, my entire thread is about why Gettleman couldn’t build an O line in 4 years and the Chiefs could do it in one off season. And thanks for the compliment but I think I sound more like a frustrated fan that’s sick of losing and sick of hearing the bs excuses made for this crappy owner and GM. You keep your head up for the rest of us camper, maybe next year we can both have something to celebrate if they actually have a winning season. Because the team that DG took over had to be completely rebuilt. We have had a 99% turnover from 2017 to now. Engram and Shep are the only two players still on this team. We won 3 games in 2017 and had to rebuild the entire team.
The Chiefs on the other hand lost the SB last year because their OL was bad. So this year they went out and spent anything they had to on the OL. Every other piece is in place. So yes they could spend 1/3rd of their draft picks on the OL and sign 6 OL in free agency. They literally had nothing else to do.
DG can say that fixing the OL was his PRIORITY but it does not mean that was the only thing he had to do. Replacing an entire roster is pretty tough.
If you want to complain about DG then do it, don't compare our situation to the Chiefs and act confused as to why the Chiefs could do something we can't. There is not a somewhat intelligent person on the planet that thinks our situation 4 years ago (3 win team) and the Chiefs this last year (14 wins, lost SB) are anywhere close to the same thing.
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 21, 2021 20:03:09 GMT -5
Uhmm. The giants oline played pretty well against Washington’s alledged top dline unit. The chiefs line didn’t look much better than the giants. I like how the OL played against WAS but they were pretty bad against the Broncos. As for the Chiefs, they have the 2nd ranked passing offense and 3rd ranked offense overall. We don't. We played well, especially as the game went on. Price doesn't know the calls yet which I think hurt early on. Gates was making the adjustments until he went down and then Jones was doing it. We adapted to a crappy situation and played well.
I don't care what the Chiefs are doing personally. They have a great play caller, best QB in the NFL, best TE and one of the best WRs. That OL would not look that good if they were wearing blue lol.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 21, 2021 20:58:47 GMT -5
I wasn’t specifically referring to you about Gettleman, my entire thread is about why Gettleman couldn’t build an O line in 4 years and the Chiefs could do it in one off season. And thanks for the compliment but I think I sound more like a frustrated fan that’s sick of losing and sick of hearing the bs excuses made for this crappy owner and GM. You keep your head up for the rest of us camper, maybe next year we can both have something to celebrate if they actually have a winning season. Because the team that DG took over had to be completely rebuilt. We have had a 99% turnover from 2017 to now. Engram and Shep are the only two players still on this team. We won 3 games in 2017 and had to rebuild the entire team.
The Chiefs on the other hand lost the SB last year because their OL was bad. So this year they went out and spent anything they had to on the OL. Every other piece is in place. So yes they could spend 1/3rd of their draft picks on the OL and sign 6 OL in free agency. They literally had nothing else to do.
DG can say that fixing the OL was his PRIORITY but it does not mean that was the only thing he had to do. Replacing an entire roster is pretty tough.
If you want to complain about DG then do it, don't compare our situation to the Chiefs and act confused as to why the Chiefs could do something we can't. There is not a somewhat intelligent person on the planet that thinks our situation 4 years ago (3 win team) and the Chiefs this last year (14 wins, lost SB) are anywhere close to the same thing.
Rebuilt? We have one starter on this O line from his 1st year here who happens to suck and most likely won’t be with team next year. We had one of the worst O lines in the league last year, how is that an improvement from when he took over? Pretty sure at least one of the Chiefs starters was picked up in the 6th round during this last draft and has graded better than any of our starters, including Thomas, but DG decided to go with a RB instead. Sick of the excuses Mike, he had one priority and that was to fix the O line. He has failed miserably in that area and he hasn’t rebuilt shit, we’re staring at another losing season. There have been several opportunities for him to build this O line without sacrificing building the team and he screwed it up every step of the way, starting with Barkley which was a luxury pick we couldn’t afford nor needed. Then he completely overpaid for Solder and Oma. And please tell me again why we couldn’t do it in 4 years and the Chiefs could in 1 off season? Be specific. We had our RB, we had our QB, we didn’t need Golloday AND Toney, our offense was set. The main difference is incompetence between their GM and ours. Let me ask you, when do you start making excuses for next year? Do you wait until we officially have another losing season or have you already started? “Well Toney decided to rap instead of play football, that’s not DG’s fault”. “So and so got injured, that’s not DG’s fault (depth is)”. “Barkley didn’t hit the right holes, that’s not DG’s fault”. “Jones turned the ball over too much, that’s not DG’s fault”. “The defense got no pressure, that wasn’t Gettlemans fault”. “The secondary was getting burned, that’s not DG’s fault”. Wasn’t it you who advocated giving DG and Judge another 4-5 years to see what they can do? |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 21, 2021 21:10:11 GMT -5
Rebuilt? We have one starter on this O line from his 1st year here who happens to suck and most likely won’t be with team next year. We had one of the worst O lines in the league last year, how is that an improvement from when he took over? Pretty sure at least one of the Chiefs starters was picked up in the 6th round during this last draft and has graded better than any of our starters, including Thomas, but DG decided to go with a RB instead. Sick of the excuses Mike, he had one priority and that was to fix the O line. He has failed miserably in that area and he hasn’t rebuilt shit, we’re staring at another losing season. There have been several opportunities for him to build this O line without sacrificing building the team and he screwed it up every step of the way, starting with Barkley which was a luxury pick we couldn’t afford nor needed. Then he completely overpaid for Solder and Oma. And please tell me again why we couldn’t do it in 4 years and the Chiefs could in 1 off season? Be specific. We had our RB, we had our QB, we didn’t need Golloday AND Toney, our offense was set. The main difference is incompetence between their GM and ours. Let me ask you, when do you start making excuses for next year? Do you wait until we officially have another losing season or have you already started? “Well Toney decided to rap instead of play football, that’s not DG’s fault”. “So and so got injured, that’s not DG’s fault (depth is)”. “Barkley didn’t hit the right holes, that’s not DG’s fault”. “Jones turned the ball over too much, that’s not DG’s fault”. “The defense got no pressure, that wasn’t Gettlemans fault”. “The secondary was getting burned, that’s not DG’s fault”. Wasn’t it you who advocated giving DG and Judge another 4-5 years to see what they can do? You're right, the Chiefs at 14-2 and the Giants at 3-13 are exactly the same. Happy, can we move on now? |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 21, 2021 21:13:08 GMT -5
I like how the OL played against WAS but they were pretty bad against the Broncos. As for the Chiefs, they have the 2nd ranked passing offense and 3rd ranked offense overall. We don't. We played well, especially as the game went on. Price doesn't know the calls yet which I think hurt early on. Gates was making the adjustments until he went down and then Jones was doing it. We adapted to a crappy situation and played well.
I don't care what the Chiefs are doing personally. They have a great play caller, best QB in the NFL, best TE and one of the best WRs. That OL would not look that good if they were wearing blue lol.
And we’ve had 4 top 20 picks, 3 of those in the top 6 and have the best in nothing. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 21, 2021 21:14:05 GMT -5
Rebuilt? We have one starter on this O line from his 1st year here who happens to suck and most likely won’t be with team next year. We had one of the worst O lines in the league last year, how is that an improvement from when he took over? Pretty sure at least one of the Chiefs starters was picked up in the 6th round during this last draft and has graded better than any of our starters, including Thomas, but DG decided to go with a RB instead. Sick of the excuses Mike, he had one priority and that was to fix the O line. He has failed miserably in that area and he hasn’t rebuilt shit, we’re staring at another losing season. There have been several opportunities for him to build this O line without sacrificing building the team and he screwed it up every step of the way, starting with Barkley which was a luxury pick we couldn’t afford nor needed. Then he completely overpaid for Solder and Oma. And please tell me again why we couldn’t do it in 4 years and the Chiefs could in 1 off season? Be specific. We had our RB, we had our QB, we didn’t need Golloday AND Toney, our offense was set. The main difference is incompetence between their GM and ours. Let me ask you, when do you start making excuses for next year? Do you wait until we officially have another losing season or have you already started? “Well Toney decided to rap instead of play football, that’s not DG’s fault”. “So and so got injured, that’s not DG’s fault (depth is)”. “Barkley didn’t hit the right holes, that’s not DG’s fault”. “Jones turned the ball over too much, that’s not DG’s fault”. “The defense got no pressure, that wasn’t Gettlemans fault”. “The secondary was getting burned, that’s not DG’s fault”. Wasn’t it you who advocated giving DG and Judge another 4-5 years to see what they can do? You're right, the Chiefs at 14-2 and the Giants at 3-13 are exactly the same. Happy, can we move on now? I never said exactly the same but sure, we can move on. How ya feelin’ about our bet buddy?  |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 21, 2021 21:16:56 GMT -5
I never said exactly the same but sure, we can move on. How ya feelin’ about our bet buddy? There is nothing the same about those teams other than being in the NFL, just hate DG and stop comparing us to the Chiefs lol. I feel way worse about the Giants losing than I'll ever feel about my avatar. I think the Giants are about to shock some people though. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 21, 2021 21:18:56 GMT -5
Because the team that DG took over had to be completely rebuilt. We have had a 99% turnover from 2017 to now. Engram and Shep are the only two players still on this team. We won 3 games in 2017 and had to rebuild the entire team.
The Chiefs on the other hand lost the SB last year because their OL was bad. So this year they went out and spent anything they had to on the OL. Every other piece is in place. So yes they could spend 1/3rd of their draft picks on the OL and sign 6 OL in free agency. They literally had nothing else to do.
DG can say that fixing the OL was his PRIORITY but it does not mean that was the only thing he had to do. Replacing an entire roster is pretty tough.
If you want to complain about DG then do it, don't compare our situation to the Chiefs and act confused as to why the Chiefs could do something we can't. There is not a somewhat intelligent person on the planet that thinks our situation 4 years ago (3 win team) and the Chiefs this last year (14 wins, lost SB) are anywhere close to the same thing.
Rebuilt? We have one starter on this O line from his 1st year here who happens to suck and most likely won’t be with team next year. We had one of the worst O lines in the league last year, how is that an improvement from when he took over? Pretty sure at least one of the Chiefs starters was picked up in the 6th round during this last draft and has graded better than any of our starters, including Thomas, but DG decided to go with a RB instead. Sick of the excuses Mike, he had one priority and that was to fix the O line. He has failed miserably in that area and he hasn’t rebuilt shit, we’re staring at another losing season. There have been several opportunities for him to build this O line without sacrificing building the team and he screwed it up every step of the way, starting with Barkley which was a luxury pick we couldn’t afford nor needed. Then he completely overpaid for Solder and Oma. And please tell me again why we couldn’t do it in 4 years and the Chiefs could in 1 off season? Be specific. We had our RB, we had our QB, we didn’t need Golloday AND Toney, our offense was set. The main difference is incompetence between their GM and ours. Let me ask you, when do you start making excuses for next year? Do you wait until we officially have another losing season or have you already started? “Well Toney decided to rap instead of play football, that’s not DG’s fault”. “So and so got injured, that’s not DG’s fault (depth is)”. “Barkley didn’t hit the right holes, that’s not DG’s fault”. “Jones turned the ball over too much, that’s not DG’s fault”. “The defense got no pressure, that wasn’t Gettlemans fault”. “The secondary was getting burned, that’s not DG’s fault”. Wasn’t it you who advocated giving DG and Judge another 4-5 years to see what they can do? Rebuilt? All new names being shuffled is desperation. Defending this nonsense is laughable. I don’t believe the majority worldwide believe this is a rebuilt OL. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 21, 2021 21:46:34 GMT -5
I never said exactly the same but sure, we can move on. How ya feelin’ about our bet buddy? There is nothing the same about those teams other than being in the NFL, just hate DG and stop comparing us to the Chiefs lol. I feel way worse about the Giants losing than I'll ever feel about my avatar. I think the Giants are about to shock some people though. How so? A win over a team clearly worse than us? Don’t ask me how, but I could see us winning 2 of the next 3. Atlanta for sure or it’s time to fire everyone and get a new start ASAP and possibly beat the cows or Saints. Most likely our bet ends in a draw IMO, 2 wins of first 5 games. I think Dallas is more likely to won but we go the whole rivalry thing going and Saints (especially Winston) looked baaaaad against Carolina. We may pick up a win there which I didn’t think we had a chance after their game against GB. |
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 22, 2021 16:18:20 GMT -5
There is nothing the same about those teams other than being in the NFL, just hate DG and stop comparing us to the Chiefs lol. I feel way worse about the Giants losing than I'll ever feel about my avatar. I think the Giants are about to shock some people though. How so? A win over a team clearly worse than us? Don’t ask me how, but I could see us winning 2 of the next 3. Atlanta for sure or it’s time to fire everyone and get a new start ASAP and possibly beat the cows or Saints. Most likely our bet ends in a draw IMO, 2 wins of first 5 games. I think Dallas is more likely to won but we go the whole rivalry thing going and Saints (especially Winston) looked baaaaad against Carolina. We may pick up a win there which I didn’t think we had a chance after their game against GB. The only shock against Atlanta would be us losing. I think it'll shock many people to see us beat the Saints and Cowboys, but it's time. That's the hump we need to get over. Don't wait until week 10 to start beating better teams. I see two wins as likely too, but won't rule anything out.
That Saints will be up and down all year. Which Winston shows up? That defense doesn't look great either. Exciting time to be a fan.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 22, 2021 20:41:29 GMT -5
How so? A win over a team clearly worse than us? Don’t ask me how, but I could see us winning 2 of the next 3. Atlanta for sure or it’s time to fire everyone and get a new start ASAP and possibly beat the cows or Saints. Most likely our bet ends in a draw IMO, 2 wins of first 5 games. I think Dallas is more likely to won but we go the whole rivalry thing going and Saints (especially Winston) looked baaaaad against Carolina. We may pick up a win there which I didn’t think we had a chance after their game against GB. The only shock against Atlanta would be us losing. I think it'll shock many people to see us beat the Saints and Cowboys, but it's time. That's the hump we need to get over. Don't wait until week 10 to start beating better teams. I see two wins as likely too, but won't rule anything out.
That Saints will be up and down all year. Which Winston shows up? That defense doesn't look great either. Exciting time to be a fan.
For sure, pretty sure it was in this thread (too tired and lazy to look back) when we were talking about our bet and I said I wouldn’t be surprised to see us win 2 of the next 3. Atlanta “for sure” and either the cows (unlikely) our the Saints (because as you said, which Winston shows up) but I could justbas easily see us losing 2 of 3 because that’s what losers do and that’s what the Giants are until proven otherwise with a winning record. |
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 23, 2021 9:23:20 GMT -5
At some point we have to stop equating okay or average with good. The Oline ranking matters just as much as other positions rankings. If we want other positions to be good we need the Oline to be good as well.
The bad news is they really only have 1 guy (Thomas) from last seasons line playing.
Zeitler was a big loss (FA) in my opinion
Gates was another big loss (injury)
Lemiuex also had some real potential (injury)
The good news is the replacements have had some bright spots so far.
If they still had Thomas-Gates-Zietler on the line still I think they might have surprised some people. RT may be the concern for now.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 23, 2021 9:35:17 GMT -5
At some point we have to stop equating okay or average with good. The Oline ranking matters just as much as other positions rankings. If we want other positions to be good we need the Oline to be good as well. The bad news is they really only have 1 guy (Thomas) from last seasons line playing. Zeitler was a big loss (FA) in my opinion Gates was another big loss (injury) Lemiuex also had some real potential (injury) The good news is the replacements have had some bright spots so far. If they still had Thomas-Gates-Zietler on the line still I think they might have surprised some people. RT may be the concern for now.I’ve been hearing that for years. The only surprise so far is, that they’ve been so bad for so long. As for the job g the corner, they must of fell in a ditch, I’m still waiting on them. Last week was encouraging, they played well against a formidable opponent. However, I’ve read this book before. They play decent for a game, then it all goes to shit the following week. This team needs to understand the word “consistency” I don’t care if Judge has to give all the players dictionaries and highlight the word. Just get it into their head. |
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