njsean
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Post by njsean on Sept 23, 2021 12:33:45 GMT -5
KG was the best WR available. DG did an awesome job signing him at the time. He also traded for that oline depth we needed and it’s super clutch that he did. No complaints. Go Blue. Lol, traded for O line depth? I’ve never seen a GM get so much praise for attempting to fix his own mistakes. If DJ ends up being a bust, some of you will give DG credit for spending two 1sts on a QB next year and say he did a great job by trading down. Unreal. You can see my example above about KG. Find holes and try to fill’em. Imagine if he hadn’t traded. He was on top of it. Dude did get two firsts for next year. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot. Failure rate is pretty high. Man covered his bases if Jones doesn’t continue to play well. That’s next level GMing.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 12:38:37 GMT -5
Lol, traded for O line depth? I’ve never seen a GM get so much praise for attempting to fix his own mistakes. If DJ ends up being a bust, some of you will give DG credit for spending two 1sts on a QB next year and say he did a great job by trading down. Unreal. You can see my example above about KG. Find holes and try to fill’em. Imagine if he hadn’t traded. He was on top of it. Dude did get two firsts for next year. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot. Failure rate is pretty high. Man covered his bases if Jones doesn’t continue to play well. That’s next level GMing. Wow, just wow bro. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot? How about a HB? You post as if this OL was fixed lol. He hasn’t fixed the OL yet as this is about the 15th OL lineup in 50 games. Trading off DL depth for OL after not drafting any OL is being on top of it? Only sentence i agree with is “Failure rate is pretty high” regarding Gettleman.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 23, 2021 12:40:16 GMT -5
KG was the best WR available. DG did an awesome job signing him at the time. He also traded for that oline depth we needed and it’s super clutch that he did. No complaints. Go Blue. Lol, traded for O line depth? I’ve never seen a GM get so much praise for attempting to fix his own mistakes. If DJ ends up being a bust, some of you will give DG credit for spending two 1sts on a QB next year and say he did a great job by trading down. Unreal. You can see my example above about KG. Losing two starters with injuries by the second week of the season is the GM's fault?
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 23, 2021 12:40:23 GMT -5
Find holes and try to fill’em. Imagine if he hadn’t traded. He was on top of it. Dude did get two firsts for next year. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot. Failure rate is pretty high. Man covered his bases if Jones doesn’t continue to play well. That’s next level GMing. Wow, just wow bro. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot? How about a HB? You post as if this OL was fixed lol. He hasn’t fixed the OL yet as this is about the 15th OL lineup in 50 games. Trading off DL depth for OL after not drafting any OL is being on top of it? Only sentence i agree with is “Failure rate is pretty high” regarding Gettleman. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 12:42:37 GMT -5
Wow, just wow bro. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot? How about a HB? You post as if this OL was fixed lol. He hasn’t fixed the OL yet as this is about the 15th OL lineup in 50 games. Trading off DL depth for OL after not drafting any OL is being on top of it? Only sentence i agree with is “Failure rate is pretty high” regarding Gettleman. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot. Read the next line and put the message together please.
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njsean
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Post by njsean on Sept 23, 2021 12:43:45 GMT -5
Find holes and try to fill’em. Imagine if he hadn’t traded. He was on top of it. Dude did get two firsts for next year. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot. Failure rate is pretty high. Man covered his bases if Jones doesn’t continue to play well. That’s next level GMing. Wow, just wow bro. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot? How about a HB? You post as if this OL was fixed lol. He hasn’t fixed the OL yet as this is about the 15th OL lineup in 50 games. Trading off DL depth for OL after not drafting any OL is being on top of it? Only sentence i agree with is “Failure rate is pretty high” regarding Gettleman. I actually suspect that the number of HBs in the league taken in the top ten have a better success rate percentage-wise than QBs. Can’t say. OLine looked pretty good to me against a monster front four. Injuries suck though. Glad we got the extra depth. Super important move.
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 23, 2021 12:48:55 GMT -5
Wow, just wow bro. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot? How about a HB? You post as if this OL was fixed lol. He hasn’t fixed the OL yet as this is about the 15th OL lineup in 50 games. Trading off DL depth for OL after not drafting any OL is being on top of it? Only sentence i agree with is “Failure rate is pretty high” regarding Gettleman. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot. The next line was completely irrelevant so it obviously it wasn't worth considering.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 23, 2021 12:51:35 GMT -5
Lol, traded for O line depth? I’ve never seen a GM get so much praise for attempting to fix his own mistakes. If DJ ends up being a bust, some of you will give DG credit for spending two 1sts on a QB next year and say he did a great job by trading down. Unreal. You can see my example above about KG. Losing two starters with injuries by the second week of the season is the GM's fault? Who was responsible for having adequate depth at OL. Whose evaluation indicated that Peart was ready to start at RT?
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 23, 2021 12:52:27 GMT -5
Ugh...
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njsean
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Post by njsean on Sept 23, 2021 12:52:42 GMT -5
Additionally. I just wanted to personify the imaginary strawman that a few posters like to invent in their posts because I’ve never actually seen him anywhere. You know. Give them a sense of credence.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 12:53:40 GMT -5
Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot. The next line was completely irrelevant so it obviously it wasn't worth considering. it was relevant to me and the message which is why i posted it. You chiming in to fill a void is what’s irrelevant.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 23, 2021 12:55:07 GMT -5
Feels this team is ready to implode any week... Agree injuries starting to mount word is Barkely didn't do much early in practice neither did Golladay in individuals. Think from last year to this year getting Jones back out there couple games to early now Barkely playing on 4 days rest after his first game back from an ACL if injuries mount and things go sideway there is gonna be some finger pointing going on and it seems rightfully so.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 12:55:55 GMT -5
Wow, just wow bro. Taking a QB early is always a crapshoot? How about a HB? You post as if this OL was fixed lol. He hasn’t fixed the OL yet as this is about the 15th OL lineup in 50 games. Trading off DL depth for OL after not drafting any OL is being on top of it? Only sentence i agree with is “Failure rate is pretty high” regarding Gettleman. I actually suspect that the number of HBs in the league taken in the top ten have a better success rate percentage-wise than QBs. Can’t say. OLine looked pretty good to me against a monster front four. Injuries suck though. Glad we got the extra depth. Super important move. HB’s are rarely even taken that high b/c of the risk. I don’t know if you casually follow the Giants yet do the numbers 15-35 mean anything? lol ah, lol
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njsean
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Post by njsean on Sept 23, 2021 12:56:06 GMT -5
The next line was completely irrelevant so it obviously it wasn't worth considering. it was relevant to me and the message which is why i posted it. You chiming in to fill a void is what’s irrelevant. To be fair, saying it was relevant to you and the message (I’m assuming you meant mine which you were quoting) is a bit off base because I never mentioned HB at all. So yeah. Not sure where that came from.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 23, 2021 12:56:15 GMT -5
Losing two starters with injuries by the second week of the season is the GM's fault? Who was responsible for having adequate depth at OL.Whose evaluation indicated that Peart was ready to start at RT? We also had 2 veterans retire during camp. And I recall you feeling that Fulton would give Hernandez a good run. No excuses for Peart, that's fair.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 23, 2021 12:58:08 GMT -5
This sucks. Toney needs to start taking meaningful snaps because with an out or limited Golladay, this offense is getting way too close to last year's version outside of Shep playing out of his damn mind. Would also be nice if Barkley could continue to shake off the rust, which I think will happen. Think if KG or Barkely have to miss time it will make much tougher on ship he is enjoying who and what he was supposed to be doing being that guy in the Slot that is a impossible task for a teams #2 or 3. They need to be smart with these guys.
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njsean
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Post by njsean on Sept 23, 2021 12:58:18 GMT -5
I actually suspect that the number of HBs in the league taken in the top ten have a better success rate percentage-wise than QBs. Can’t say. OLine looked pretty good to me against a monster front four. Injuries suck though. Glad we got the extra depth. Super important move. HB’s are rarely even taken that high b/c of the risk. I don’t know if you casually follow the Giants yet do the numbers 15-35 mean anything? lol ah, lol Those numbers mean winning is hard - which is awesome. Makes it all the more important when we do.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 13:00:34 GMT -5
it was relevant to me and the message which is why i posted it. You chiming in to fill a void is what’s irrelevant. To be fair, saying it was relevant to you and the message (I’m assuming you meant mine which you were quoting) is a bit off base because I never mentioned HB at all. So yeah. Not sure where that came from. Well, your take seems to miss so much. Clutch associated with Gettleman and this OL. Sure, all picks are a crap shoot yet we’re not that craps table or throwing shiat against a wall in hopes something sticks. Hence, his draft history and what a miserable job he’a done as a GM. A few blocks might be the foundation for a celebration while other might feel otherwise at 0-2 for the 5th straight year.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 13:02:05 GMT -5
HB’s are rarely even taken that high b/c of the risk. I don’t know if you casually follow the Giants yet do the numbers 15-35 mean anything? lol ah, lol Those numbers mean winning is hard - which is awesome. Makes it all the more important when we do. apparently it’s harder for the Giants than the rest of the NFL since Gettleman arrived.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 23, 2021 13:03:55 GMT -5
He needs to stop dropping the chances he gets.. Barkley dropped passes so far? I have barely seen him targeted? Think he dropped one last week I'm not worried about him he has shown to be sure handed enough, Everything he does is magnified being he was our #2 pic but your correct he needs to be used in the passing game on deep posts and angle routes deep in cuts and wheels, screeens not sure if the line is cohesive enough with the new pieces for screens at the moment. He killed there his rookie year and even with the injuries his second year he was a tough cover and did well with it.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 13:06:14 GMT -5
Barkley dropped passes so far? I have barely seen him targeted? Think he dropped one last week I'm not worried about him he has shown to be sure handed enough, Everything he does is magnified being he was our #2 pic but your correct he needs to be used in the passing game on deep posts and angle routes deep in cuts and wheels, screeens not sure if the line is cohesive enough with the new pieces for screens at the moment. He killed there his rookie year and even with the injuries his second year he was a tough cover and did well with it. You want Barkley to run deep post from the HB position?
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 23, 2021 13:08:00 GMT -5
Who was responsible for having adequate depth at OL.Whose evaluation indicated that Peart was ready to start at RT? We also had 2 veterans retire during camp. And I recall you feeling that Fulton would give Hernandez a good run. No excuses for Peart, that's fair. It has been 4 years, Gettleman is 100% responsible for this OL.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 23, 2021 13:08:12 GMT -5
Who was responsible for having adequate depth at OL.Whose evaluation indicated that Peart was ready to start at RT? We also had 2 veterans retire during camp. And I recall you feeling that Fulton would give Hernandez a good run. No excuses for Peart, that's fair. I agree guys seem to forget they had decent depth with Fulton and Looney, can't help they called it a career. They pivoted and did well to get decent depth in here in the 11th hour. Peart was a draft choice he was always gonna get a chance I liked Slater a ton tho still think he might be one of the best or the best to come out in the last 5 years.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 23, 2021 13:13:00 GMT -5
Who was responsible for having adequate depth at OL.Whose evaluation indicated that Peart was ready to start at RT? We also had 2 veterans retire during camp. And I recall you feeling that Fulton would give Hernandez a good run. No excuses for Peart, that's fair. Thanks. I completely forgot about Gettleman drafting Hernandez at the top of the second round. Yeesh Fulton retired after he was apparently leap-frogged on the depth chart by Kenny Wiggins, who ended up getting cut. Great depth
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 23, 2021 13:13:38 GMT -5
We also had 2 veterans retire during camp. And I recall you feeling that Fulton would give Hernandez a good run. No excuses for Peart, that's fair. It has been 4 years, Gettleman is 100% responsible for this OL. I'm no fan boy but he is not responsible for vets who sign then decide this isn't for them and retire. they were good to go. Luckily they have two choices at center with Skura here who started a whole season for the Ravens and Price if Price continues to struggle. At the end of the day depending on how they do with the trade and there plethora of picks will ell wether passing on Slater was as bad as it seems. As I said before think he is better then all 4 tackles from last years class and maybe the best in the last 5 years or so.
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njsean
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Post by njsean on Sept 23, 2021 13:13:41 GMT -5
To be fair, saying it was relevant to you and the message (I’m assuming you meant mine which you were quoting) is a bit off base because I never mentioned HB at all. So yeah. Not sure where that came from. Well, your take seems to miss so much. Clutch associated with Gettleman and this OL. Sure, all picks are a crap shoot yet we’re not that craps table or throwing shiat against a wall in hopes something sticks. Hence, his draft history and what a miserable job he’a done as a GM. A few blocks might be the foundation for a celebration while other might feel otherwise at 0-2 for the 5th straight year. Are we talking QBs, HBs or what now? Despite injuries, still don’t blame the oline for our loss. Out for season injuries do suck, though. Attrition may start to erode that as it would for any team. We all want the team to win, but sometimes we catch a bad beat despite whatever talent was assembled. We did last week. Hopefully not so much next game.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 23, 2021 13:18:00 GMT -5
It has been 4 years, Gettleman is 100% responsible for this OL. I'm no fan boy but he is not responsible for vets who sign then decide this isn't for them and retire. they were good to go. Luckily they have to choices at center with Skura here who started a whole season for the Ravens and Price if Price continues to struggle. At the end of the day depending on how they do with the trade and there plethora of picks will ell wether passing on Slater was as bad as it seems. As I said before think he is better then all 4 tackles from last years class and maybe the best in the last 5 years or so. We didn't pass, we received an extra first round pick to move back. I'll take that every time.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 23, 2021 13:19:08 GMT -5
Well, your take seems to miss so much. Clutch associated with Gettleman and this OL. Sure, all picks are a crap shoot yet we’re not that craps table or throwing shiat against a wall in hopes something sticks. Hence, his draft history and what a miserable job he’a done as a GM. A few blocks might be the foundation for a celebration while other might feel otherwise at 0-2 for the 5th straight year. Are we talking QBs, HBs or what now? Despite injuries, still don’t blame the oline for our loss. Out for season injuries do suck, though. Attrition may start to erode that as it would for any team. We all want the team to win, but sometimes we catch a bad beat despite whatever talent was assembled. We did last week. Hopefully not so much next game. Mr Hog Mollie Gettleman has drafted only three OL over four drafts (14 picks) within three Rounds. Clutch?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 23, 2021 13:20:40 GMT -5
I'm no fan boy but he is not responsible for vets who sign then decide this isn't for them and retire. they were good to go. Luckily they have to choices at center with Skura here who started a whole season for the Ravens and Price if Price continues to struggle. At the end of the day depending on how they do with the trade and there plethora of picks will ell wether passing on Slater was as bad as it seems. As I said before think he is better then all 4 tackles from last years class and maybe the best in the last 5 years or so. We didn't pass, we received an extra first round pick to move back. I'll take that every time. Depends Slater is a special player I get why they did what they did and am good with it. They need to make those picks count no matter who is pulling the trigger.
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 23, 2021 13:21:52 GMT -5
I'm no fan boy but he is not responsible for vets who sign then decide this isn't for them and retire. they were good to go. Luckily they have to choices at center with Skura here who started a whole season for the Ravens and Price if Price continues to struggle. At the end of the day depending on how they do with the trade and there plethora of picks will ell wether passing on Slater was as bad as it seems. As I said before think he is better then all 4 tackles from last years class and maybe the best in the last 5 years or so. We didn't pass, we received an extra first round pick to move back. I'll take that every time. Picks are great and all but need to actually draft good players. Gettleman isn't acing the test in that area.
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