southerner
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Post by southerner on Sept 24, 2021 7:01:02 GMT -5
It still is early but so far Golliday and Toney look to be worthless picks…..both are always injured….both rarely practice….both whine like little girls when they aren’t the focal point of the offense. Funny enough the WR the Giants seem to be pushing out the door, Shepard, is far better then both of these overpaid divas……trade them to Cleveland again since they seem more than ready to take problem children from the Giants while returning very high draft choices, which the new GM can use more wisely in 2022.
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Post by wtfjjk on Sept 24, 2021 7:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by snyder55 on Sept 24, 2021 8:35:38 GMT -5
its a funny thing about pro football, you get paid huge money before you have to prove you're worth it..
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 8:36:57 GMT -5
Let’s give them three games before we label them worthless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 8:43:10 GMT -5
Injuries are par for the course for the Giants.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 8:48:51 GMT -5
Injuries are par for the course for the Giants. We went to the dealership and bought the most expensive car. The car salesman warned us that it will drive great Monday through Saturday, but for some odd reason the car needs major repairs on Sundays. Instead, of heeding the warning and looking elsewhere, we gave him a blank check and bent over That’s what we got with Golladay. |
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Post by Eazy E on Sept 24, 2021 9:02:23 GMT -5
I remember some rookie receiver who missed his first four games of the season. Also remember a big free agent wr have a whatever first 3/4 games but impressive first game. These 2 need more time.
Holliday is a big possession type receiver. He needs to be used as such. You can't expect anything else. He is your one on one jump ball type. Back shoulder throw, fade to the corner route. Use it and abuse it. Im more concerned with the production at TE and RB. We need to get those spots going, once we do. Look out.
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Post by giants8493 on Sept 24, 2021 9:08:00 GMT -5
its a funny thing about pro football, you get paid huge money before you have to prove you're worth it.. the good news is not all of that money is gaurneteed |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 9:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by shocknaweny on Sept 24, 2021 9:09:08 GMT -5
I think Golladay is opening up things underneath for Shepard and hopefully Barkley soon enough
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 24, 2021 9:14:13 GMT -5
Let’s give them three games before we label them worthless. Maybe give the rookie a season lol and see how KG does once healthy, If he doesn't get healthy who ever did his physical should get the ax first. |
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Post by jb456 on Sept 24, 2021 9:15:56 GMT -5
its a funny thing about pro football, you get paid huge money before you have to prove you're worth it.. Golliday has proved he is worth money ( I don't know if he is worth the money he got) but has done it in the leagure. Toney on the other hand hasn't proved anything. |
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 24, 2021 9:17:07 GMT -5
A 20 million dollar per year jump ball receiver. Not sure what they were thinking there...maybe had Plaxico in mind?
Detroit fans said he wasn't a great teammate who often got hurt and so far....nevermind...thanks Gettleman.
Toney looks like a lost cause so far.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 24, 2021 9:19:49 GMT -5
I think Golladay is opening up things underneath for Shepard and hopefully Barkley soon enough Your right on that front Barkely and Golladay being on the field opens things up for everyone Barkely in the RPO and read option game opens things up for others, KG just needing attention does the same for Shep and Slayton should be interesting when Engram returns, hopefully they can all get off the injury list. So the coaches and fan base can RELAX. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 9:24:13 GMT -5
A 20 million dollar per year jump ball receiver. Not sure what they were thinking there...maybe had Plaxico in mind? Detroit fans said he wasn't a great teammate who often got hurt and so far....nevermind...thanks Gettleman. Toney looks like a lost cause so far. Fan bases are jaded to the talent they currently have... after all, 90% of Giants' fans want Barkley outta here lol |
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 24, 2021 9:25:19 GMT -5
Golladay is a "contested catch" guy who's too slow to get separation. Giants haven't been comfortable using a guy like that for a while. Tate was the same, though a little quicker and not as big. Both complained they werent getting enough targets.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 24, 2021 9:30:57 GMT -5
its a funny thing about pro football, you get paid huge money before you have to prove you're worth it.. Golliday has proved he is worth money ( I don't know if he is worth the money he got) but has done it in the leagure. Toney on the other hand hasn't proved anything. true no free agent is ever worth the money, the only one that i can remember who was worth it was Rolle played the whole contract produced and never missed a game. That is almost as rear as seeing a unicorn. Toney is a rookie he isn't making money and trading down got us a boat load of capital in the draft so if and when he starts to contribute we will see where that goes. He still has the skill set to be a really nice chess piece. People here seem to not know or forget once you get passed the first 12 and if it's a real deep draft 15, teams are on their second row meaning the first round graded players are gone at that point. That is a fact we got a boat load of capital Gettlemen who might lose his job, did what all everyone wanted him to traded down and fleeced the Bears I f Fields turns out to be the next Russel Wilson or Josh Allen then both teams got what they wanted. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 24, 2021 9:31:17 GMT -5
Are Goladay and Toney producing and helping our offense ? NO ! Where's Ross is he still hurt ? Engram is he going to play yet ? Now Goladay and Toney are injured again and can't practice. man this has gotten old in a hurry.
This offense has so many questions it should be a game show. The OL ? Every week we have a guest appearance by a different O lineman. Saquon we hold our breath everytime he runs. WR is another guest appearance type position, nobody knows who's playing and it's not the same guy that practiced all week. And not to be left out the good ole TE position. Engram hasn't played, Rudy is coming off injury, Smith I don't know if he's been good or bad. If I haven't noticed him in 2 games including rewatching the Wash. game it can't be too good. I've noticed Rudy blocking.
This is just the offense we all know the defense has stunk up the place.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 24, 2021 9:42:25 GMT -5
A 20 million dollar per year jump ball receiver. Not sure what they were thinking there...maybe had Plaxico in mind? Detroit fans said he wasn't a great teammate who often got hurt and so far....nevermind...thanks Gettleman. Toney looks like a lost cause so far. Fan bases are jaded to the talent they currently have because he doesn't make them "feel" how the last guy made them feel... after all, 90% of Giants' fans want Barkley outta here lol I guess having a couple #1s and a couple more #3s and yet again a couple more #4s don't count if Toney develops as they hope and think he will the Giants got plenty for there 20th draft pick. |
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Post by SG88 on Sept 24, 2021 10:06:56 GMT -5
I think Golladay is opening up things underneath for Shepard and hopefully Barkley soon enough I agree. Plenty of times, player contributions don't show up on stat sheet. |
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 24, 2021 10:34:26 GMT -5
Hopefully Golladay starts showing why he is worth 18 million a year.
So far I think defenses fear Slayton a lot more for taking the top off by going deep.
I see Shepard winning routes and catching the ball when it hits his hands..Golladay hasn't done either consistently.
Toney just had finished an interview..said his focus is on Atlanta. Doesn't sound like he'll bit sitting due to injury.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 10:45:21 GMT -5
These players are getting nothing done with this shitty system. It’s Judge and Garrett.
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 24, 2021 10:55:58 GMT -5
We should do something revolutionary. Instead of giving players and coaches any time at all we should start firing, cutting and trading people every four games. Know I realize that is still two more games away but if we can fire any unsuccessful GM/HC and trade any player not lighting it up after just 4 games we can get turn over going 4 times a season and then we can surely find success.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 24, 2021 11:04:18 GMT -5
Are Goladay and Toney producing and helping our offense ? NO ! Where's Ross is he still hurt ? Engram is he going to play yet ? Now Goladay and Toney are injured again and can't practice. man this has gotten old in a hurry. This offense has so many questions it should be a game show. The OL ? Every week we have a guest appearance by a different O lineman. Saquon we hold our breath everytime he runs. WR is another guest appearance type position, nobody knows who's playing and it's not the same guy that practiced all week. And not to be left out the good ole TE position. Engram hasn't played, Rudy is coming off injury, Smith I don't know if he's been good or bad. If I haven't noticed him in 2 games including rewatching the Wash. game it can't be too good. I've noticed Rudy blocking. This is just the offense we all know the defense has stunk up the place. “The OL ? Every week we have a guest appearance by a different O lineman.”  It’s been that way since “Hog Molly Gettleman” made the OL his first priority. Just a few more tweaks and we may be average…been hearing that for 4 years. Seriously, I’d like to know how many different linemen have started and/or played more than 50 snaps since Gettleman took over. I’m willing to be it’s well more than any other team in the league over that same time span and he still doesn’t have it figured out. Friggin clown show. |
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 24, 2021 11:07:58 GMT -5
I didn't want KG, and I wasn't expecting KT to be the pick, but this thread is comical. Right in line with the "NY Giants Fans ,...Most Negative???" thread on page 1.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 24, 2021 11:14:13 GMT -5
1. Obviously too early to tell.
2. Every WR thinks he is open whether they are or not.
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Post by southerner on Sept 24, 2021 11:14:18 GMT -5
I didn't want KG, and I wasn't expecting KT to be the pick, but this thread is comical. Right in line with the "NY Giants Fans ,...Most Negative???" thread on page 1. With the Giant’s choosing Golladay and Toney, one cannot help but be very negative about their chances. |
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Post by hadenough on Sept 24, 2021 11:22:51 GMT -5
Toney has had a million different reasons why not to practice.
I’m getting the feeling this guy isn’t a ‘practice player’.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 11:26:56 GMT -5
Injuries are par for the course for the Giants. We went to the dealership and bought the most expensive car. The car salesman warned us that it will drive great Monday through Saturday, but for some odd reason the car needs major repairs on Sundays. Instead, of heeding the warning and looking elsewhere, we gave him a blank check and bent over That’s what we got with Golladay. I really don't even understand the things they do anymore, but it's been going on for years lately, and makes for some bad football on Sundays. |
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Post by Roswell on Sept 24, 2021 11:42:01 GMT -5
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