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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2021 19:00:57 GMT -5
Glennon played better than DJ was. This team is a dumpster fire all around. We should be hitting reset again this offseason, but probably won't and continue the misery for another 4-5 years at least He didn't but given the sample size you can certainly conjure any conclusion you desire. I also don't buy into those that say Smith outplayed Wilson on Thursday but there's no shortage of folks that have chosen to believe that. Good for them I guess. I've learned to filter out molten hot takes from people with an agenda.
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Post by nyg2 on Oct 10, 2021 19:01:10 GMT -5
That’s the going rate for a starting QB in 2021. If you can’t justify paying him that much, then it’s time to move on. I'd actually argue if he shows enough still this year extend him 4 years after the 2 years he has left... The going rate now will he chump change in 2 years if we wait till his contract expires with all tbe TV money about to hit After Wentz and Goff failed to live up to their contracts when they got their extensions after the third year many FOs are hesitant in giving their QBs extension that soon.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2021 19:09:54 GMT -5
I'd actually argue if he shows enough still this year extend him 4 years after the 2 years he has left... The going rate now will he chump change in 2 years if we wait till his contract expires with all tbe TV money about to hit After Wentz and Goff failed to live up to their contracts when they got their extensions after the third year many FOs are hesitant in giving their QBs extension that soon. Agreed... Unfortunately we are legit headed to the absolute worst case scenario right now.. Jones really has been showing a marked improvement..taking the team on his back the way he did in New Orleans and possibly starting to heat up before his concussion... Now he will be out at least one if not more weeks... There is also no bona-fide qbs in this next draft that would be an obvious upgrade... Also probably trapped on what seems to be a team witb a horrible defense that is going to force him to carry the team on his back every week,especially now with Barkley out . I "guess" if he can carry the passing attack to the tune of 350 yards a game and have the team to win but the defense let's them down at the ends of games would that be enough? And this all goes back to 2018 with a bad roster evaluation,blowing all that money on Solder..wasting their 2019 3rd on Beal as a sup pick.. Not building around Jones in tbe 2019 draft on the line and especially at wideout (you think McLaren with that 3rd we lost on Beal and Dalton Risner at O line would have been prudent) Ramifications Pay Golladay 72 million ..costs us Tomlinson So we are here .....
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 10, 2021 19:12:22 GMT -5
He didn't but given the sample size you can certainly conjure any conclusion you desire. I also don't buy into those that say Smith outplayed Wilson on Thursday but there's no shortage of folks that have chosen to believe that. Good for them I guess. I've learned to filter out molten hot takes from people with an agenda. God it must suck to be so wrong on so many levels for so long, yet still make snarky comments about people who see reality. Here's to you blocking all the people who constantly remind you of how terribly wrong you are about everything Giants and how little you know talent or football. You'd think the Giants record would be enough for you but I guess not.
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Post by coughlinscorner on Oct 10, 2021 19:13:49 GMT -5
The game was a drag but let's be honest, like pretty much all NFL games, it was over as soon as the backup QB came in. Except when the backup QB goes against Giants D
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Post by allnygin on Oct 10, 2021 19:14:28 GMT -5
The game was a drag but let's be honest, like pretty much all NFL games, it was over as soon as the backup QB came in. Except when the backup QB goes against Giants D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 19:15:46 GMT -5
The way things are I always think draft, cans and bottles also.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 10, 2021 19:15:56 GMT -5
I've learned to filter out molten hot takes from people with an agenda. God it must suck to be so wrong on so many levels for so long, yet still make snarky comments about people who see reality. Here's to you blocking all the people who constantly remind you of how terribly wrong you are about everything Giants and how little you know talent or football. You'd think the Giants record would be enough for you but I guess not. Well, it's not a contest and no one is keeping track but that's only because it could not possibly be less important.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 10, 2021 19:16:23 GMT -5
The game was a drag but let's be honest, like pretty much all NFL games, it was over as soon as the backup QB came in. Except when the backup QB goes against Giants D lol! true
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 10, 2021 19:18:30 GMT -5
God it must suck to be so wrong on so many levels for so long, yet still make snarky comments about people who see reality. Here's to you blocking all the people who constantly remind you of how terribly wrong you are about everything Giants and how little you know talent or football. You'd think the Giants record would be enough for you but I guess not. Well, it's not a contest and no one is keeping track but that's only because it could not possibly be less important. Yeah but some on here like to wax poetic about their opinion and views, when by all indications they are wrong about literally everything. I agree it's not important at all, but still incredibly fun to point out after a quite like his.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 10, 2021 19:52:45 GMT -5
Well, it's not a contest and no one is keeping track but that's only because it could not possibly be less important. Yeah but some on here like to wax poetic about their opinion and views, when by all indications they are wrong about literally everything. I agree it's not important at all, but still incredibly fun to point out after a quite like his. Like I said, thankfully for you and everyone else here, no one keeps track of this nonsense. Which is why we do not waste our time posting about others and keep the content on the football. Well, that and the fact that we're not infantile morons.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 10, 2021 19:54:46 GMT -5
Yeah but some on here like to wax poetic about their opinion and views, when by all indications they are wrong about literally everything. I agree it's not important at all, but still incredibly fun to point out after a quite like his. Like I said, thankfully for you and everyone else here, no one keeps track of this nonsense. Which is why we do not waste our time posting about others and keep the content on the football. Well, that and the fact that we're not infantile morons. I mean I hear you and am as guilty as any being infantile, but I'm far from the only one on here.
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Post by lt56 on Oct 10, 2021 20:06:56 GMT -5
If the Draft was tomorrow, we for sure could use Big Jordan Davis at Nose Tackle to help against the run. Tomlinson is greatly missed...GREATLY MISSED! A lot of Football left so lets see how the rest of our season as well as the College Football Season goes before even thinking about the Draft
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2021 20:13:48 GMT -5
If the Draft was tomorrow, we for sure could use Big Jordan Davis at Nose Tackle to help against the run. Tomlinson is greatly missed...GREATLY MISSED! A lot of Football left so lets see how the rest of our season as well as the College Football Season goes before even thinking about the Draft He is my guy as well..... Some have Leal ahead of him Davis and Hutchinson (a Watt clone from Michigan)with our 2 first round picks added to Ojulari....it's a nice start
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 10, 2021 20:28:41 GMT -5
He didn't but given the sample size you can certainly conjure any conclusion you desire. I also don't buy into those that say Smith outplayed Wilson on Thursday but there's no shortage of folks that have chosen to believe that. Good for them I guess. I've learned to filter out molten hot takes from people with an agenda. Yes a hot take that is 4 plus years old. This team sucks.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 10, 2021 20:32:51 GMT -5
I've learned to filter out molten hot takes from people with an agenda. Yes a hot take that is 4 plus years old. This team sucks. Clearly he doesn't like your agenda...reality.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2021 20:37:34 GMT -5
Yeah but some on here like to wax poetic about their opinion and views, when by all indications they are wrong about literally everything. I agree it's not important at all, but still incredibly fun to point out after a quite like his. Like I said, thankfully for you and everyone else here, no one keeps track of this nonsense. Which is why we do not waste our time posting about others and keep the content on the football. Well, that and the fact that we're not infantile morons. Yet some people still do unfortunately
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Post by Giggles on Oct 10, 2021 20:37:56 GMT -5
Offensive line or pass rusher please.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 10, 2021 20:38:23 GMT -5
Like I said, thankfully for you and everyone else here, no one keeps track of this nonsense. Which is why we do not waste our time posting about others and keep the content on the football. Well, that and the fact that we're not infantile morons. Yet some people still do unfortunately Says the pot to the kettle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 20:54:58 GMT -5
Doesn’t matter who you draft if they are not prepared to play.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 10, 2021 20:57:46 GMT -5
Doesn’t matter who you draft if they are not prepared to play. Doesn't matter who you draft when Fredo Mara is the actual one pulling the strings
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Post by allnygin on Oct 10, 2021 21:19:29 GMT -5
Offensive line or pass rusher please. we can go both in the first round. Hopefully Chicago starts losing football games.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 10, 2021 21:22:13 GMT -5
Offensive line or pass rusher please. we can go both in the first round. Hopefully Chicago starts losing football games. Has to be pass rusher. Our line hasn't been bad especially with a healthy Thomas. First round need to be a stud edge.
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Post by cdngfan on Oct 10, 2021 21:25:27 GMT -5
Wonderful being a Giant and Penn State fan this weekend. Thank God for bourbon High West Campfire in my glass tonight.
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Post by PennState1 on Oct 10, 2021 22:16:33 GMT -5
Wonderful being a Giant and Penn State fan this weekend. Thank God for bourbon High West Campfire in my glass tonight. Good stuff! Still Drinking Michters Sour Mash at 10pm
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Post by jintslifer1 on Oct 11, 2021 6:01:16 GMT -5
I was really hoping that the bears pick would yield us a top 10 pick. I think they will be in the teens now. And we will be the top 10 pick unfortunately.
Injuries are one thing that can derail a season. But this defense is the real killer. It’s embarrassing to even watch
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 11, 2021 12:02:12 GMT -5
Unreal, failed rebuild, botched. Sabotage !!! Jones has looked legit, and thomas has also looked legit.. One good thing is we won't have to worry about a QB this offseason or LT.. We should have at least one early round 1st round pick and possibly a second depending on chicago and gettlemen wont be the one picking either, so that should help expedite getting on the right track.. hopefully, anyway. part came in and scored a 70 pff grade gave up 1 pressure think Nate should go to the bench develop our tackles and QB Love was the highest defender with an 80 and Toney was the highest offensive player with an elite grade of 93.2. Lot of people giving Love grief his tackling was also an 80 grade, we as fans don't know the call or responsibility each player has on any given play Love takes a lot of heat from the looks of it he was almost elite caring out his said responsibilities.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2021 12:07:47 GMT -5
I was really hoping that the bears pick would yield us a top 10 pick. I think they will be in the teens now. And we will be the top 10 pick unfortunately. Injuries are one thing that can derail a season. But this defense is the real killer. It’s embarrassing to even watch This guy gets it. Our defense is our Achilles heel. I don’t care about injures, did anyone shed a tear when the 49ers super bowl team was decimated by injuries last year? No, we gave them the sucks for you card and went about our business. Our defense couldn’t stop a runny nose, let alone an NFL running back. Everyone and their mother knew the Cowboys can run on anyone. What do we do? We let them stick to their game plan and we were bystanders. Graham lost his moxy when he stopped eating carbs. Our high priced defenders, are all underperforming. Yeah, I’m looking at you Leonard Williams. You flash in the pan defender.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 11, 2021 12:09:04 GMT -5
Yup. Problem is we still have a few glaring areas of need. OL, pass rusher, and interior LB. Actually, the more pressing issues is to get a new GMand office!!!! and then a new coaching staff. Judge is not going to take this team anywhere. Cowboys were playing chippie all game. now many will debate this but I stand by Toney taking a pop at the DB. Yes he got tossed but you need to stick up for yourself. And at that point the game is over. Judge giving him a profanity laced earful and pointing to the locker room just was bs. He should have patted him on the shoulder. This team lacks some nastiness. Instead we have a LB try to two hand touch Elliot instead of tackling him. We had guys that were chippy as well Leo ripped Pollards helmet off his head and Hernandez and EE stayed chippy after the Toney punch.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 11, 2021 12:14:00 GMT -5
I was really hoping that the bears pick would yield us a top 10 pick. I think they will be in the teens now. And we will be the top 10 pick unfortunately. Injuries are one thing that can derail a season. But this defense is the real killer. It’s embarrassing to even watch This guy gets it. Our defense is our Achilles heel. I don’t care about injures, did anyone shed a tear when the 49ers super bowl team was decimated by injuries last year? No, we gave them the sucks for you card and went about our business. Our defense couldn’t stop a runny nose, let alone an NFL running back. Everyone and their mother knew the Cowboys can run on anyone. What do we do? We let them stick to their game plan and we were bystanders. Graham lost his moxy when he stopped eating carbs. Our high priced defenders, are all underperforming. Yeah, I’m looking at you Leonard Williams. You flash in the pan defender. Zeke Ran 99% of his runs outside to the right they have grafted onBBV he ran like 2 times left middle, they are doing what they did when Snacks was here just run away from him because they new they aren't getting anywhere running at him. think Leo might have a bad wheel but he was there same with Lawrence they aren't going to play the strength of the defense. We have serious issues on the edges of our defense just like 2017.
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