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Post by idkaname on Oct 17, 2021 13:49:34 GMT -5
I’m tired of losing “hard fought” heart breakers.
Truth is - this trend has existed here since Mcadoodoo because the reason for it…is simply awful coaching.
Why do we blow leads?
Why do we commit stupid penalties?
Why does it seem like every time we have a chance, the other team transforms and takes control of the game?
Coaching…more importantly ADJUSTMENTS.
Doesn’t matter what players you have if you can’t adjust. This fool Joe Fudge comes into a game with a game plan and when the other team adjusts….HE DOES THE SAME THING. That’s football 101…
The worst part ? When something is WORKING…Fudge comes out and NEVER has it put back into the play calling.
Last point…you’re telling me this man will challenge obvious calls and not challenge that 4th and 1 that WAS converted ??? This guy SUCKS. Makes the baggy suit guy look like Belichick. Hahahaha 🍫
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 14:05:09 GMT -5
Injuries aren't helping for sure ......but this is bad coaching and a bad team pretty much all over.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 17, 2021 14:08:16 GMT -5
I don't think any offense can be even competitive with how many injuries they have right now
Now the defense?
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 17, 2021 15:26:03 GMT -5
I’m tired of losing “hard fought” heart breakers. Truth is - this trend has existed here since Mcadoodoo because the reason for it…is simply awful coaching. Why do we blow leads? Why do we commit stupid penalties? Why does it seem like every time we have a chance, the other team transforms and takes control of the game? Coaching…more importantly ADJUSTMENTS. Doesn’t matter what players you have if you can’t adjust. This fool Joe Fudge comes into a game with a game plan and when the other team adjusts….HE DOES THE SAME THING. That’s football 101… The worst part ? When something is WORKING…Fudge comes out and NEVER has it put back into the play calling. Last point…you’re telling me this man will challenge obvious calls and not challenge that 4th and 1 that WAS converted ??? This guy SUCKS. Makes the baggy suit guy look like Belichick. Hahahaha 🍫 so with good coaching these players are awesome? The roster has stunk for a decade. That doesn’t seem to sink in so blame the coach.
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Post by coughlinscorner on Oct 17, 2021 15:28:16 GMT -5
I’m tired of losing “hard fought” heart breakers. Truth is - this trend has existed here since Mcadoodoo because the reason for it…is simply awful coaching. Why do we blow leads? Why do we commit stupid penalties? Why does it seem like every time we have a chance, the other team transforms and takes control of the game? Coaching…more importantly ADJUSTMENTS. Doesn’t matter what players you have if you can’t adjust. This fool Joe Fudge comes into a game with a game plan and when the other team adjusts….HE DOES THE SAME THING. That’s football 101… The worst part ? When something is WORKING…Fudge comes out and NEVER has it put back into the play calling. Last point…you’re telling me this man will challenge obvious calls and not challenge that 4th and 1 that WAS converted ??? This guy SUCKS. Makes the baggy suit guy look like Belichick. Hahahaha 🍫 so with good coaching these players are awesome? The roster has stunk for a decade. That doesn’t seem to sink in so blame the coach. Hey at best if Judge isn't part of the solution then he's part of the problem. At worst, he's a HUGE part of the problem.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 17, 2021 15:30:13 GMT -5
so with good coaching these players are awesome? The roster has stunk for a decade. That doesn’t seem to sink in so blame the coach. Hey at best if Judge isn't part of the solution then he's part of the problem. At worst, he's a HUGE part of the problem. BS - the fickle fans always blame the coach.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 15:32:11 GMT -5
I don't think any offense can be even competitive with how many injuries they have right now Now the defense? I won't even debate this anymore...if people want to judge a QB in a negative light on today's game, have at it....as if we were going to adjust our game plan and come back that game with that OL and lack of weapons.... I need to start placing my college game thoughts and get back into the draft zone...although that's gonna be tough if we go new GM, new coach....which would mean....oh crap.
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Post by coughlinscorner on Oct 17, 2021 15:33:53 GMT -5
Hey at best if Judge isn't part of the solution then he's part of the problem. At worst, he's a HUGE part of the problem. BS - the fickle fans always blame the coach. Fickle fans? They are 19-51 since the Green Bay playoff loss in 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 15:34:02 GMT -5
Adjustments?
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 17, 2021 15:36:27 GMT -5
BS - the fickle fans always blame the coach. Fickle fans? They are 19-51 since the Green Bay playoff loss in 2016. yeah, the fickle fans always blame the coach. The roster stinks. You post as if a good coach would be winning with this circus. Coughlin, Mac, Shumur, Judge, every OC and DC gets blamed. It’s ridiculous.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 17, 2021 15:41:58 GMT -5
I’m tired of losing “hard fought” heart breakers. Truth is - this trend has existed here since Mcadoodoo because the reason for it…is simply awful coaching. Why do we blow leads? Why do we commit stupid penalties? Why does it seem like every time we have a chance, the other team transforms and takes control of the game? Coaching…more importantly ADJUSTMENTS. Doesn’t matter what players you have if you can’t adjust. This fool Joe Fudge comes into a game with a game plan and when the other team adjusts….HE DOES THE SAME THING. That’s football 101… The worst part ? When something is WORKING…Fudge comes out and NEVER has it put back into the play calling. Last point…you’re telling me this man will challenge obvious calls and not challenge that 4th and 1 that WAS converted ??? This guy SUCKS. Makes the baggy suit guy look like Belichick. Hahahaha 🍫 Before Mac they were a doormat at the last 3 years of TC but then again the talent on those teams wouldn't have cracked the top 25 in the NCAA.
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 17, 2021 16:19:19 GMT -5
Hey at best if Judge isn't part of the solution then he's part of the problem. At worst, he's a HUGE part of the problem. BS - the fickle fans always blame the coach. What has Judge done well as a coach?
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 17, 2021 16:30:14 GMT -5
Why do we keep picking unproven coaches? And if we are going to pick an unproven coach why cant we find a McVey? That guy can coach. So can Shanahan. So can Harbaugh.
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Post by Jomo on Oct 17, 2021 16:32:35 GMT -5
Why do we keep picking unproven coaches? And if we are going to pick an unproven coach why cant we find a McVey? That guy can coach. So can Shanahan. So can Harbaugh. "We" ie JM keep picking them because in the face of all evidence to the contrary HE and only HE is the smartest man in the room. Suck it up boys and girls. Keep drinking more bourbon until Tisch head butts JM.
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Post by te88 on Oct 17, 2021 16:44:19 GMT -5
BS - the fickle fans always blame the coach. What has Judge done well as a coach? The gift of gab. Otherwise he is the worst coach since Handley.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 17, 2021 16:46:06 GMT -5
If Mara really cared about the fans he’d fire Judge and DG tomorrow.
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Post by cdngfan on Oct 17, 2021 17:04:22 GMT -5
Why do we keep picking unproven coaches? And if we are going to pick an unproven coach why cant we find a McVey? That guy can coach. So can Shanahan. So can Harbaugh. "We" ie JM keep picking them because in the face of all evidence to the contrary HE and only HE is the smartest man in the room. Suck it up boys and girls. Keep drinking more bourbon until Tisch head butts JM. Truth
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Post by Nite on Oct 17, 2021 17:24:42 GMT -5
I don't think any offense can be even competitive with how many injuries they have right now Now the defense? I won't even debate this anymore...if people want to judge a QB in a negative light on today's game, have at it....as if we were going to adjust our game plan and come back that game with that OL and lack of weapons.... I need to start placing my college game thoughts and get back into the draft zone...although that's gonna be tough if we go new GM, new coach....which would mean....oh crap. It might mean..time for the big flush... Giants won't do it cuz they are incompetent and p***
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Post by cdngfan on Oct 17, 2021 17:25:22 GMT -5
Coaching isn’t helping, but changing the coach doesn’t fix this.
The ownership group can’t evaluate a good coach from a bad one.
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 17, 2021 17:40:27 GMT -5
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 17, 2021 17:46:25 GMT -5
Tired of blaming coaching at this point, already had 4 coaches in just about a 5 year span with little to no change in result. When Toney, Thomas, Gates, and over half of the offense went down this team basically turned into a JV team facing a good Varsity team.
Judge was more aggressive today which a lot of people were asking for, went for it on 4th down and the team showed fight for 60 minutes.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 17, 2021 17:51:28 GMT -5
BS - the fickle fans always blame the coach. What has Judge done well as a coach? what have the players done for any of these coaches?
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 17, 2021 17:53:00 GMT -5
What has Judge done well as a coach? what have the players done for any of these coaches? I'm happy to say both the coaches and players suck equally. All of that points to a terrible GM.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 17, 2021 17:54:45 GMT -5
what have the players done for any of these coaches? I'm happy to say both the coaches and players suck equally. All of that points to a terrible GM. how can you judge (how ironic) a coach when the players stink? Never understand that
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 17, 2021 18:06:48 GMT -5
I'm happy to say both the coaches and players suck equally. All of that points to a terrible GM. how can you judge (how ironic) a coach when the players stink? Never understand that I think the issue with that argument is that on any given play, game, or season, you can always say that the players didn't execute or the players just stink. Short of a few plays here and there which seem like bad calls, coaches are always at mercy of the player. It exonerates them from any poor performance because they aren't the ones performing in the game. However, you have to ask if the coaches are maximizing the players and putting them in their best possible situation to be successful. I am 100% sure Patrick Graham is not maximizing the talent, based on the performance this season vs last. I am not 100% Garrett isn't maximizing the talent, given the O-line and injuries on offense and what looked like an improved Jones this season until today. I am not 100% sure on Judge either way, but he needs to be held accountable as the head coach.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 17, 2021 18:11:06 GMT -5
how can you judge (how ironic) a coach when the players stink? Never understand that I think the issue with that argument is that on any given play, game, or season, you can always say that the players didn't execute or the players just stink. Short of a few plays here and there which seem like bad calls, coaches are always at mercy of the player. It exonerates them from any poor performance because they aren't the ones performing in the game. However, you have to ask if the coaches are maximizing the players and putting them in their best possible situation to be successful. I am 100% sure Patrick Graham is not maximizing the talent, based on the performance this season vs last. I am not 100% Garrett isn't maximizing the talent, given the O-line and injuries on offense and what looked like an improved Jones this season until today. I am not 100% sure on Judge either way, but he needs to be held accountable as the head coach. The QB has issues reading a defense The HB can’t get on the the field The receivers keep getting injured The OL stinks The DL is missing Tomlinson The Linebackers stink The overpriced DB’s can’t tackle The roster stinks. Who is good? What position are the Giants better at than opponents? It’s as if some of you see talent and pretend the opponent has none. Do you follow the draft? The players? The free agents? What do you see that makes you think they are any good? lol, they’re awful.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 17, 2021 18:16:08 GMT -5
I think the issue with that argument is that on any given play, game, or season, you can always say that the players didn't execute or the players just stink. Short of a few plays here and there which seem like bad calls, coaches are always at mercy of the player. It exonerates them from any poor performance because they aren't the ones performing in the game. However, you have to ask if the coaches are maximizing the players and putting them in their best possible situation to be successful. I am 100% sure Patrick Graham is not maximizing the talent, based on the performance this season vs last. I am not 100% Garrett isn't maximizing the talent, given the O-line and injuries on offense and what looked like an improved Jones this season until today. I am not 100% sure on Judge either way, but he needs to be held accountable as the head coach. The QB has issues reading a defense The HB can’t get on the the field The receivers keep getting injured The OL stinks The DL is missing Tomlinson The Linebackers stink The overpriced DB’s can’t tackle The roster stinks. Who is good? What position are the Giants better at than opponents? It’s as if some of you see talent and pretend the opponent has none. Do you follow the draft? The players? The free agents? What do you see that makes you think they are any good? lol, they’re awful. I completely agree the roster stinks. But at they THIS bad? To be this horrifically bad on defense especially after being a top defense last year and adding talent, I don't buy that it's just on the players. I buy it much more about our offense because Jones is not a top QB and our O-line is trash outside of Thomas. But defense? There is talent there to not give up 100 points in 2 games.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 17, 2021 18:16:49 GMT -5
The QB has issues reading a defense The HB can’t get on the the field The receivers keep getting injured The OL stinks The DL is missing Tomlinson The Linebackers stink The overpriced DB’s can’t tackle The roster stinks. Who is good? What position are the Giants better at than opponents? It’s as if some of you see talent and pretend the opponent has none. Do you follow the draft? The players? The free agents? What do you see that makes you think they are any good? lol, they’re awful. I completely agree the roster stinks. But at they THIS bad? To be this horrifically bad on defense especially after being a top defense last year and adding talent, I don't buy that it's just on the players. I buy it much more about our offense because Jones is not a top QB and our O-line is trash outside of Thomas. But defense? There is talent there to not give up 100 points in 2 games. ? - yeah. What part do you think is better? Which backup QB’s did you not see them play against last season? Did you see December football last year?
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 17, 2021 18:18:46 GMT -5
What has Judge done well as a coach? what have the players done for any of these coaches? So nothing. Got it.
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Post by Roswell on Oct 17, 2021 18:24:21 GMT -5
Let’s take the team’s embarrassing effort out of the equation.
Last week your QB was concussed. What kind of coach leaves that guy in the game to play the 4th quarter after he’s thrown 3 ints. and his team is down 38-3?
He should be fired for that alone.
He talks a great freaking game. But his decision making and judgement absolutely sucks.
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