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Post by allnygin on Nov 27, 2021 0:12:49 GMT -5
qbs.. but for ****s sake... what the shit is this?
Might want to wear a wrist bad based on coverage Daniel one read jones, since you can't ****ing read in between the lines.
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Post by allnygin on Nov 27, 2021 0:17:06 GMT -5
**** this. . it took eli "3+ years".. He played under Kevin Gilbrides offense. Probably one of the hardest offenses to run as a QB let alone a fuking rookie to young qb. You can't even compare the two in the infancy in their careers. Shit was broken down barney style for Jones whereas with eli that wasn't the case.
Anyway, it could be bc I'm slightly buzzed, but jones can't sniff elis strap and I'm sick of comparing the two, or hearing the comparisons, that's an insult to eli.
Jones, find a way to do something other than what ytou've done to this point..
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Post by allnygin on Nov 27, 2021 0:24:52 GMT -5
**** this. . it took eli "3+ years".. He played under Kevin Gilbrides offense. Probably one of the hardest offenses to run as a QB let alone a fuking rookie to young qb. You can't even compare the two in the infancy in their careers. Shit was broken down barney style for Jones whereas with eli that wasn't the case. Anyway, it could be bc I'm slightly buzzed, but jones can't sniff elis strap and I'm sick of comparing the two, or hearing the comparisons, that's an insult to eli. Jones, find a way to do something other than what ytou've done to this point.. oh and not only for a qb but for WRs also.. Hands down one of the hardest offenses to run. High risk high reward.. DJ runs high school offenses in comparrison.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 27, 2021 0:41:36 GMT -5
**** this. . it took eli "3+ years".. He played under Kevin Gilbrides offense. Probably one of the hardest offenses to run as a QB let alone a fuking rookie to young qb. You can't even compare the two in the infancy in their careers. Shit was broken down barney style for Jones whereas with eli that wasn't the case. Anyway, it could be bc I'm slightly buzzed, but jones can't sniff elis strap and I'm sick of comparing the two, or hearing the comparisons, that's an insult to eli. Jones, find a way to do something other than what ytou've done to this point.. I’m sure you realize how sick and obsessive this Jones infatuation goes. His demeanor is exactly like Eli’s, he was coached by the same guy who coached Eli, he has the exact same look as Eli, he’s dead behind the eyes…the dude is a an absolute loser but Mara and Gettleman thought the were drafting Eli’s clone all because of Cutliffe. This organization is f’in sick.
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Post by allnygin on Nov 27, 2021 0:52:10 GMT -5
**** this. . it took eli "3+ years".. He played under Kevin Gilbrides offense. Probably one of the hardest offenses to run as a QB let alone a fuking rookie to young qb. You can't even compare the two in the infancy in their careers. Shit was broken down barney style for Jones whereas with eli that wasn't the case. Anyway, it could be bc I'm slightly buzzed, but jones can't sniff elis strap and I'm sick of comparing the two, or hearing the comparisons, that's an insult to eli. Jones, find a way to do something other than what ytou've done to this point.. I’m sure you realize how sick and obsessive this Jones infatuation goes. His demeanor is exactly like Eli’s, he was coached by the same guy who coached Eli, he has the exact same look as Eli, he’s dead behind the eyes…the dude is a an absolute loser but Mara and Gettleman thought the were drafting Eli’s clone all because of Cutliffe. This organization is f’in sick. Another example of them thinking they know better then the rest of the teams, except the only constant is they contue to suck at drafting year after year.
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Post by DJones19 on Nov 27, 2021 1:34:47 GMT -5
Eli also turned the ball over almost 35 times in his prime (2013) 27INTs and 7 fumbles but he got to start another 6 years. I wonder what changed in the 2 years after the Super Bowl win.
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Post by hof56lt on Nov 27, 2021 9:19:32 GMT -5
Eli also turned the ball over almost 35 times in his prime (2013) 27INTs and 7 fumbles but he got to start another 6 years. I wonder what changed in the 2 years after the Super Bowl win. By far the smartest response on this post. If defense did not win those two Super Bowl’s Eli would have been long gone after 2013 .
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Post by mendy on Nov 27, 2021 9:28:27 GMT -5
Eli also turned the ball over almost 35 times in his prime (2013) 27INTs and 7 fumbles but he got to start another 6 years. I wonder what changed in the 2 years after the Super Bowl win. By far the smartest response on this post. If defense did not win those two Super Bowl’s Eli would have been long gone after 2013 . What Super Bowls did you watch?
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Post by bluebuddha on Nov 27, 2021 9:33:11 GMT -5
**** this. . it took eli "3+ years".. He played under Kevin Gilbrides offense. Probably one of the hardest offenses to run as a QB let alone a fuking rookie to young qb. You can't even compare the two in the infancy in their careers. Shit was broken down barney style for Jones whereas with eli that wasn't the case. Anyway, it could be bc I'm slightly buzzed, but jones can't sniff elis strap and I'm sick of comparing the two, or hearing the comparisons, that's an insult to eli. Jones, find a way to do something other than what ytou've done to this point.. This is probably the main reason why no option routes were run. I read a couple of scouting reports that stated Jones was a slow at reading the field or couldn't see the defense well. It makes sense they would not trust him with option routes. In Shurmurs system it was simplified. I think it was a 2 read system where he had a zone beater route and a man beater route. Probably why Jones was more sucessful. Q
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Post by jaymas on Nov 27, 2021 9:49:13 GMT -5
What a weird thing to be mad about.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 27, 2021 10:02:18 GMT -5
What a weird thing to be mad about. Read in between the lines. It’s Jones he’s mad about. Our enigma of a quarterback. This wristband thing is a last ditch effort from a desperate team. Communication has been suspect as of late. Let’s make sure the quarterback knows the play call halfway through the season.
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Post by giantsalmon on Nov 27, 2021 10:05:39 GMT -5
What a weird thing to be mad about. Allen in Buffalo still wearing a wrist band and he's in his 4th year with the same OC. Appreciated both Simms and Manning, but both their beginnings were anything but smooth. There were MANY calls to bench Manning and I believe at one point Simms was benched during his first few years. Anyone who doesn't realize how much confidence affects the QB psyche hasn't been an observer of the NFL. Some get put in much easier situations.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Nov 27, 2021 10:18:31 GMT -5
Always wondered why Eli didnt wear one like big ben to call his own plays. Maybe it was too advanced for him idk...
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 27, 2021 10:30:21 GMT -5
What a weird thing to be mad about. Allen in Buffalo still wearing a wrist band and he's in his 4th year with the same OC. Appreciated both Simms and Manning, but both their beginnings were anything but smooth. There were MANY calls to bench Manning and I believe at one point Simms was benched during his first few years. Anyone who doesn't realize how much confidence affects the QB psyche hasn't been an observer of the NFL. Some get put in much easier situations. Everyone knows that. Playing quarterback in this league is as much mental than physical. We’ve seen it time and time again, talented quarterbacks fizzling out before they know it. No one epitomizes that more than Jeff George. Golden arm, egg noodle of a brain.
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Post by te88 on Nov 27, 2021 10:58:13 GMT -5
Big Ben and Brady use one. Who cares.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 27, 2021 11:17:38 GMT -5
When they lose on Sunday, I'm not even going to clown on the wristbands. I honestly don't know 1) why this is even news and 2) why someone in the media even asked them about it.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Nov 27, 2021 11:30:43 GMT -5
Lots of QBs use wrist bands including Brady. Who cares? We will see what happens tomorrow but I expect another L. Maybe even in embarrassing fashion. The Eagles have talent son both sides of the ball, a new coach who apparently understands offense and, oh yeah, they can block. A Giants win would shock me and it whatever happens will nothing to do with wrist bands.
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Post by mendy on Nov 27, 2021 12:06:52 GMT -5
Always wondered why Eli didnt wear one like big ben to call his own plays. Maybe it was too advanced for him idk... He didn't need one.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Nov 27, 2021 12:52:18 GMT -5
Always wondered why Eli didnt wear one like big ben to call his own plays. Maybe it was too advanced for him idk... He didn't need one. true he wasnt allowed to call his own plays only a few approved audibles.
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Post by fifthavephil on Nov 27, 2021 13:04:14 GMT -5
Jones did not need a wristband, when Garrett was OC. Garrett had about a dozen plays , in his play book. Also, Giants were three and out ( punt ) majority of times.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Nov 27, 2021 13:25:57 GMT -5
What a weird thing to be mad about. Allen in Buffalo still wearing a wrist band and he's in his 4th year with the same OC. Appreciated both Simms and Manning, but both their beginnings were anything but smooth. There were MANY calls to bench Manning and I believe at one point Simms was benched during his first few years. Anyone who doesn't realize how much confidence affects the QB psyche hasn't been an observer of the NFL. Some get put in much easier situations. Even the great Bill Parcells played Scott Brunner ahead of Phil in his first season.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Nov 27, 2021 13:29:07 GMT -5
Eli also turned the ball over almost 35 times in his prime (2013) 27INTs and 7 fumbles but he got to start another 6 years. I wonder what changed in the 2 years after the Super Bowl win. Eli got to start another 6 years because he won two Super Bowls prior to 2013. Literally carried the team in the 2011 regular season and had near perfect SB runs in 2007 and 2011. Jones? All his fans cling to is the TB game in week 3 of his rookie season.
And that game's stat line?
22-36, 336 yards, 2 TD, 0 INTs, 5 sacks, 2 fumbles lost.Yeah its not like Jones did anything since then. He definitely did not throw for 400 yards and win player of the week around a month ago.
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Post by giantsalmon on Nov 27, 2021 13:30:22 GMT -5
When they lose on Sunday, I'm not even going to clown on the wristbands. I honestly don't know 1) why this is even news and 2) why someone in the media even asked them about it. I need counseling. I thought that I could not get anymore concerned going into the Bucs game. I truly felt they had a shot to win and turn their season around. It was such a disaster that I was damn angry. I was certainly hdg into ambivalent territory afterwards. Now, with the OC move and the memories of the disgusting throwing of their game by the Philly organization(I think Pederson was instructed to do that BS), here I am again giving a shit. A great deal of shit actually. PLEASE beat them, even if it takes two safeties and a defensive TD. PLEASE. It would still mean a ton besides the obvious rivalry as Philly must be thinking division now.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 27, 2021 13:45:19 GMT -5
Let's look for something else to fuss about.
We have a new OC with new plays and wrinkles on old ones.
The wrist band won't hurt and will speed up the play calling from OC to QB.
No big deal which makes perfect sense.
It is NOT breaking news, it is just information, that's it.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 27, 2021 13:54:12 GMT -5
Eli also turned the ball over almost 35 times in his prime (2013) 27INTs and 7 fumbles but he got to start another 6 years. I wonder what changed in the 2 years after the Super Bowl win. Eli got to start another 6 years because he won two Super Bowls prior to 2013. Literally carried the team in the 2011 regular season and had near perfect SB runs in 2007 and 2011. Jones? All his fans cling to is the TB game in week 3 of his rookie season. And that game's stat line? 22-36, 336 yards, 2 TD, 0 INTs, 5 sacks, 2 fumbles lost. I was there. He threw 2 passes that no doubt should have been intercepted but where dropped. The thing was, it was his first career start so he got the pass. He showed a nice flash. It looked like we may have had something special. The problem is it never materialized. He never got better. As for the wristband, it is what it is. I'm OK with it if it makes him reach his potential. I doubt it since that isn't his problem.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 27, 2021 14:01:11 GMT -5
Let's look for something else to fuss about. We have a new OC with new plays and wrinkles on old ones. The wrist band won't hurt and will speed up the play calling from OC to QB. No big deal which makes perfect sense. It is NOT breaking news, it is just information, that's it. Just another reason for people who are looking to get outraged about to get outraged about Just like many aspects of life these days
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Post by GameTime on Nov 27, 2021 14:01:48 GMT -5
dont care either way at all.
wont make a damn bit of difference'
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Post by Jomo on Nov 27, 2021 14:04:09 GMT -5
Let's look for something else to fuss about. We have a new OC with new plays and wrinkles on old ones. The wrist band won't hurt and will speed up the play calling from OC to QB. No big deal which makes perfect sense. It is NOT breaking news, it is just information, that's it. Just another reason for people who are looking to get outraged about to get outraged about Just like many aspects of life these days Sadly true..
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Post by kerryisdaman on Nov 27, 2021 16:59:19 GMT -5
Yeah its not like Jones did anything since then. He definitely did not throw for 400 yards and win player of the week around a month ago. Thanks for proving my point. 2 games in 3 years. White knuckle clinging by some fans. The fact that Jones and Eli are in the same conversation is asinine. You realize you are not being logical. 1. You said people were holding on to a game against Tampa. So how does me not mentioning that game at all prove your point? 2. I never mentioned Eli so your 2nd sentence also is a nonsensical response to my actual post.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Nov 27, 2021 21:21:17 GMT -5
You realize you are not being logical. 1. You said people were holding on to a game against Tampa. So how does me not mentioning that game at all prove your point? 2. I never mentioned Eli so your 2nd sentence also is a nonsensical response to my actual post. 1. Clinging to one game (in your case this season’s decent game) is the point. Rather than look at the full body of work, which is mediocre at best, certain fans will cling to one game and try to project that. 2. In case you didn’t notice, the first post of mine you quoted was responding to the Eli comparison. Which also happened to continue in the three by many people. My comment was an extension of that. Is there a chance you are as biased as you accuse other people of being? For example I mentioned a game he won player of the week for and you call it this seasons decent game. Wouldn't the fact that he won offensive player of the week indicate that his game was much more than decent?
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