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Post by Jomo on Dec 5, 2021 17:40:37 GMT -5
Journeyman QB Journeyman OL A few receivers lol, why can we win? Duh That doesn't explain the 9 years before this one. Judge is only the latest in a lineup of unqualified head coaches. And who picks our head coaches?
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 5, 2021 17:42:39 GMT -5
Journeyman QB Journeyman OL A few receivers lol, why can we win? Duh That doesn't explain the 9 years before this one. Judge is only the latest in a lineup of unqualified head coaches. And who picks our head coaches? wasn’t responding to the past nine years. Was responding to today. Team stinks. Some still post as if they’re surprised.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 17:44:47 GMT -5
The only chance the team had was run the ball and pray Barkley can eventually pull off a few big runs because Glennon had absolutely zero chance to throw a TD. I don't understand why they threw so much This! 41 attempts with Glennon at QB, really? For the goober ball haters here, sorry but this was the game to go full blown goober ball. I would have been all for it if they weren't getting stuffed for 2 yard losses every time they ran it on 1st down because we have preseason game 1 4th quarter level run blocking. We can't even run it against empty boxes.
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Post by Roswell on Dec 5, 2021 17:48:05 GMT -5
I can’t really blame the OC. There’s no game plan for this Oline. They are horrendously bad.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 5, 2021 17:54:11 GMT -5
i was at the game. They ran 30+ seconds off the clock on mtiple plays, like one or two zeconds llet onplay clock each time. inexplicable... I rarely scream at the TV. Couldn’t believe they were huddling up down 2 scores with 7 left. It’s not like this was a wide open game. Just losing coaching, coaching to lose. 4th and 2, punting. This guy has no guts. Somebody tell him, no guts, no glory. The post game presser i'm "encouraged" by the direction the team is headed? I don't know who could say this about looking at this team this season. I almost need to believe MARA or one of his yes men go over what to say at the post game press conferences. IF you look at McAdoo's and Shurmur's postgame pressers it was always the same B.S. "I need to look at the tape" "We fight and play hard and don't give up" I am happy with the direction the team is headed" This can only be something that's coming from the GM and the UPPER Level management. They were say the exact same thing and now Judge is doing the same. "The offense came up with some critical plays during the game"? We scored 9 points I don't think Joe Judge watched the same game that we did.
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Post by bigblueones on Dec 5, 2021 17:59:00 GMT -5
He looks like that dude Brandon
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Post by spaceweather on Dec 5, 2021 19:06:06 GMT -5
What is with this dude and taking unnecessary timeouts? Who the hell takes a timeout with 6 seconds left in the quarter? It's incredible his job is considered safe when he should be bounced out with Dave Gettleman. In no world does he deserve a 3rd year.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 5, 2021 20:07:34 GMT -5
That doesn't explain the 9 years before this one. Judge is only the latest in a lineup of unqualified head coaches. And who picks our head coaches? wasn’t responding to the past nine years. Was responding to today. Team stinks. Some still post as if they’re surprised. You are correct Rangers13. No one should be shocked or surprised. We've got nothing on which to build and the results are quite rational given that.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 5, 2021 20:16:21 GMT -5
So Judge and his brain trust (most coaches on any NFL team) sit down this week after watching a bunch of Miami tape and they conclude that running the ball to the right behind Solder and Hernandez is our best bet to move the ball.
Six rushing plays (could be off by one either direction) all had the same result: zero to one yard.
So a couple of simple questions from a simple guy.
How could our analysis be so pathetic?
Why did it take a full half of failure running right to change it up and run left (behind Thomas) in the second half where they were more productive?
Judge is responsible for everything. How could he let us run anything behind Solder as a primary game plan strategy?
This is what you get when you let your opponent Bill Belichick pick your head coach and the "ceo" decides that what we really need is a special teams coach to lead us.
This is the same type of result you get when the "ceo" decides that what we need as our next HC is a guy whose claim to fame was being QB coach for Aaron Rodgers in a unit room of 4 people.
Line managers in most businesses have better hiring technique than our freaking "ceo".
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Post by coughlinscorner on Dec 5, 2021 20:30:55 GMT -5
That doesn't explain the 9 years before this one. Judge is only the latest in a lineup of unqualified head coaches. And who picks our head coaches? wasn’t responding to the past nine years. Was responding to today. Team stinks. Some still post as if they’re surprised. “The worst thing you can do is have success doing it the wrong way and thinking that’s the key to success,” Judge said. “You gotta go back and stay focused. We talk about the process all the time, and what does it take to be successful.” Mission accomplished they haven't had any success so need to worry about doing it the wrong way. Who wouldn't run thru a wall for this coach?
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 5, 2021 20:34:37 GMT -5
wasn’t responding to the past nine years. Was responding to today. Team stinks. Some still post as if they’re surprised. “The worst thing you can do is have success doing it the wrong way and thinking that’s the key to success,” Judge said. “You gotta go back and stay focused. We talk about the process all the time, and what does it take to be successful.” Mission accomplished they haven't had any success so need to worry about doing it the wrong way. Who wouldn't run thru a wall for this coach? all we need is unproven Lemieux to return and put in an unmotivated Peart who can’t beat out an incompetent Solder who was signed by a “genius” GM who claims he’s kicking @ss everyday.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 5, 2021 20:36:15 GMT -5
I wanted Ron Rivera. Look what he is doing with Washington right now. Without the star pass rusher and starting QB. It's obvious Rivera is a great HC. Too bad he never gave Mara the shot.
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Post by Martin on Dec 5, 2021 21:06:22 GMT -5
I wanted Ron Rivera. Look what he is doing with Washington right now. Without the star pass rusher and starting QB. It's obvious Rivera is a great HC. Too bad he never gave Mara the shot. Because Rivera is really smart. He didn't want to work for this crappy organization and dinosaur system. Its set up for failure.
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Post by coughlinscorner on Dec 5, 2021 21:06:29 GMT -5
“The worst thing you can do is have success doing it the wrong way and thinking that’s the key to success,” Judge said. “You gotta go back and stay focused. We talk about the process all the time, and what does it take to be successful.” Mission accomplished they haven't had any success so need to worry about doing it the wrong way. Who wouldn't run thru a wall for this coach? all we need is unproven Lemieux to return and put in an unmotivated Peart who can’t beat out an incompetent Solder who was signed by a “genius” GM who claims he’s kicking @ss everyday. I get it Gettleman is a moron and has to go. But do you really believe a top flight competent coach wouldn't have the team looking better and at minimum another 2-3 wins? Tell me Bill Belichick would be 4-8 with this roster? In other words tell me Judge has squeezed everything possible out of this team.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 5, 2021 21:10:43 GMT -5
all we need is unproven Lemieux to return and put in an unmotivated Peart who can’t beat out an incompetent Solder who was signed by a “genius” GM who claims he’s kicking @ss everyday. I get it Gettleman is a moron and has to go. But do you really believe a top flight competent coach wouldn't have the team looking better and at minimum another 2-3 wins? Tell me Bill Belichick would be 4-8 with this roster? In other words tell me Judge has squeezed everything possible out of this team. another 2-3 wins? Hell no.
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Post by coughlinscorner on Dec 5, 2021 21:16:24 GMT -5
I get it Gettleman is a moron and has to go. But do you really believe a top flight competent coach wouldn't have the team looking better and at minimum another 2-3 wins? Tell me Bill Belichick would be 4-8 with this roster? In other words tell me Judge has squeezed everything possible out of this team. another 2-3 wins? Hell no. Your delusional if you don't think better coaching would have made a difference in the Washington, Falcons and Chiefs games. Your hatred for Grttleman is blinding your view of Judge.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 5, 2021 21:20:50 GMT -5
An outsider or analyst who doesn't really know the brevity of the situation might say something, "well, he's a year two coach, his offense is riddled with injuries, daniel jones has struggled bc of that" BULLSHIT....
This guy went into the season thinking his o-line was better than it was better than it was... Peart has been a failed project to this point, nate soldier is arguably the worst tackle in the league, Will Hernandez is garbage and would shane lemuiex be any good? He was graded as one of the worst guards last season, no reason to expect he'd be any better this year.
JOE JUDGE owns this offenses shortcoming as much as Gettlemen, Garrett, Jones etc. Not to mention the piss poor game management he's displayed all season...
Absolutely horrific season.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 5, 2021 21:22:33 GMT -5
another 2-3 wins? Hell no. Your delusional if you don't think better coaching would have made a difference in the Washington, Falcons and Chiefs games. Your hatred for Grttleman is blinding your view of Judge. Your hatred for Judge blinds your judgement as well. Roster is what it is. Jones/Glennon, concussion or not, Barkley in/out, receivers in/out, a rotation of journeyman OL, no pass rush, no MLB, lost your starting safety, etc is better for three wins. Fully healthy this team’s win/over under in Vegas was only 7
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Post by Martin on Dec 5, 2021 21:24:18 GMT -5
Judge is possibly the worst in-game manager I have ever witnessed. His clock management is epic in the most negative way possible. Yes there are problems above and beyond his coaching but for his part he looks completely inept.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 5, 2021 21:26:44 GMT -5
As someone else asked, what is one thing he made better? One? Can’t think of a single thing. So far, a lot of talk with no results. Proof you don’t have to say a lot to say it all.
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Post by vinnie on Dec 5, 2021 21:35:52 GMT -5
I rarely scream at the TV. Couldn’t believe they were huddling up down 2 scores with 7 left. It’s not like this was a wide open game. Just losing coaching, coaching to lose. 4th and 2, punting. This guy has no guts. Somebody tell him, no guts, no glory. The post game presser i'm "encouraged" by the direction the team is headed? I don't know who could say this about looking at this team this season. I almost need to believe MARA or one of his yes men go over what to say at the post game press conferences. IF you look at McAdoo's and Shurmur's postgame pressers it was always the same B.S. "I need to look at the tape" "We fight and play hard and don't give up" I am happy with the direction the team is headed" This can only be something that's coming from the GM and the UPPER Level management. They were say the exact same thing and now Judge is doing the same. "The offense came up with some critical plays during the game"? We scored 9 points I don't think Joe Judge watched the same game that we did. People keep saying “what was he supposed to say”? I want someone like Judges idols and mentors (Saban and Bellichick) who don’t sugar coat things. How about John Tortarella? Controversial, sure but they all keep it real. They all express disgust and make no excuses when they lose. This f’in Judge guy?! I’ve had it.
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Post by fifthavephil on Dec 5, 2021 21:39:26 GMT -5
If Mara loves him, that tells you all you need to know about him I bet Mara loves him because his words about discipline, due your job and general toughness remined Mara of TC. The only HC hire during Mara that was a success. I bet Mara wants those times with TC and Eli back but cant understand Judge cant even hold TC's jockstrap. Neither can Mara. Nor, Jones hold Eli’s strap !
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 5, 2021 21:40:52 GMT -5
The post game presser i'm "encouraged" by the direction the team is headed? I don't know who could say this about looking at this team this season. I almost need to believe MARA or one of his yes men go over what to say at the post game press conferences. IF you look at McAdoo's and Shurmur's postgame pressers it was always the same B.S. "I need to look at the tape" "We fight and play hard and don't give up" I am happy with the direction the team is headed" This can only be something that's coming from the GM and the UPPER Level management. They were say the exact same thing and now Judge is doing the same. "The offense came up with some critical plays during the game"? We scored 9 points I don't think Joe Judge watched the same game that we did. People keep saying “what was he supposed to say”? I want someone like Judges idols and mentors (Saban and Bellichick) who don’t sugar coat things. How about John Tortarella? Controversial, sure but they all keep it real. They all express disgust and make no excuses when they lose. This f’in Judge guy?! I’ve had it. John Tortorella culture is acceptable in the NHL. His outburst in this diva league, the whole league would refuse to take the field until cancel culture threw him out.
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Post by fifthavephil on Dec 5, 2021 21:42:39 GMT -5
I can’t really blame the OC. There’s no game plan for this Oline. They are horrendously bad. But, Solder is better than Peart ? Hernandez is better the Bredeson ?
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Post by Jomo on Dec 6, 2021 7:31:49 GMT -5
wasn’t responding to the past nine years. Was responding to today. Team stinks. Some still post as if they’re surprised. “The worst thing you can do is have success doing it the wrong way and thinking that’s the key to success,” Judge said. “You gotta go back and stay focused. We talk about the process all the time, and what does it take to be successful.” Mission accomplished they haven't had any success so need to worry about doing it the wrong way. Who wouldn't run thru a wall for this coach? Someone should ask Judge if he knows the definition of insanity.......doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Trust the process is just a smoke screen for a clueless meat head.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 6, 2021 7:47:55 GMT -5
So Judge and his brain trust (most coaches on any NFL team) sit down this week after watching a bunch of Miami tape and they conclude that running the ball to the right behind Solder and Hernandez is our best bet to move the ball. Six rushing plays (could be off by one either direction) all had the same result: zero to one yard. So a couple of simple questions from a simple guy. How could our analysis be so pathetic? Why did it take a full half of failure running right to change it up and run left (behind Thomas) in the second half where they were more productive? Judge is responsible for everything. How could he let us run anything behind Solder as a primary game plan strategy? This is what you get when you let your opponent Bill Belichick pick your head coach and the "ceo" decides that what we really need is a special teams coach to lead us. This is the same type of result you get when the "ceo" decides that what we need as our next HC is a guy whose claim to fame was being QB coach for Aaron Rodgers in a unit room of 4 people. Line managers in most businesses have better hiring technique than our freaking "ceo". Shanon Sharpe said “ The Giants wanted to hire from the Belichik tree but they went for the rotten fruit that was laying on the ground” 🤣 💀 JOE JUDGE has already threw 2 coaches under the bus. He is running out of excuses so he makes stuff up.
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Post by GameTime on Dec 6, 2021 8:44:05 GMT -5
was a big fan
now I am a big fan of him getting the boot.
Sorry Joe....you have a good plan and attitude you just have zero idea how to implement it.
Maybe someday you'll be able to be a HC but for now go backl to STs and keep learning.
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 6, 2021 8:45:51 GMT -5
Down 17-9, like 7 min to go and your O has been brutal. You don’t go no huddle there? This guy has no feel for in game coaching. i was at the game. They ran 30+ seconds off the clock on mtiple plays, like one or two zeconds llet onplay clock each time. inexplicable... I notice they are constantly working with very little time on the play clock. Multiple times Glennon clapping is hands like a madman trying to get the C to hike the ball with time running out. And not just this game.
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 6, 2021 8:47:33 GMT -5
I can’t really blame the OC. There’s no game plan for this Oline. They are horrendously bad. Not only are they bad, but every opponent knows how bad they are and that they only have to do one thing to beat them.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 8:56:37 GMT -5
i was at the game. They ran 30+ seconds off the clock on mtiple plays, like one or two zeconds llet onplay clock each time. inexplicable... I notice they are constantly working with very little time on the play clock. Multiple times Glennon clapping is hands like a madman trying to get the C to hike the ball with time running out. And not just this game. Papa and Banks mentioned that a few times. The personnel was still being changed and the play wasn’t sent in until approx 14 seconds on the play clock. Bad job by Judge when this happened after a stoppage in play. Hmmm
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