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Post by Jomo on Dec 13, 2021 13:33:40 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG.
DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing.
Then he proceeds to not fix it.
I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem?
Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM.
How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney?
What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid?
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Post by piddy283 on Dec 13, 2021 13:39:26 GMT -5
I'm one of the few folks who hasn't crucified DG, but the fact he hasn't improved the OL is something even I can't defend. There's no excuse for us to be this bad after 4 years of him being here. It's a joke.
Literally everything on offense stems from the OL and we haven't had a good one in 10+ years.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Dec 13, 2021 13:56:46 GMT -5
No line=No wins
Simple as that.
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Post by cdngfan on Dec 13, 2021 14:07:45 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. |
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Post by thetruth on Dec 13, 2021 14:13:52 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid?Bad, stupid, incompetent, ignorant, narcissist. Take your pick |
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 13, 2021 14:26:20 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid?Bad, stupid, incompetent, ignorant, narcissist. Take your pick why can't the answer be all of the above? |
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Post by jmike on Dec 13, 2021 14:31:40 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. OK, now I understand no GM or scouting department will be perfect on every pick. But here are the 2018 picks and some OL available at the time. Maybe the scouting department could have identify a couple of these as good OL prospects. 2018 1-Saquon Barkley (Quenton Nelson) 2-Will Hernandez (Branden Smith, point of note this was the guy I really wanted at this pick) 3-Lorenzo Carter (Orlando Brown) 3-BJ Hill (Alex Cappa) 4-Kyle Lauletta (Brian Allen) 5-RJ McIntosh (Jordan Mailata) There are players there, and I can do this for every draft. The scouting department and GM need to find them and they have failed to do so consistently. I'm not asking them to be 100%, but hit on a couple maybe. |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2021 15:01:40 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. Two starters lost for the season in the opening weeks. Gates was a huge loss. But no excuses for over-evaluating Peart, that's on everyone. |
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Post by Tyrell on Dec 13, 2021 15:07:28 GMT -5
Our player evaluation has been as dismal as anything else.
I think we've also failed to recognize talent in dudes whove passed through here with barely any playing time, while stubbornly playing to death guys that just suck.
what we have isnt a team, its a bunch of guys who play as though every game is their first together.
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Post by mendy on Dec 13, 2021 15:14:01 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? Ignore , nope he didn't ignore .What he did didn't work we all agree on that but he didn't ignore it. He signed the #1 FA OT available at the time .Since 2018 we have drafted 2 Guards and 3Tackles . I seriously don't know how many FA O linemen have come in .Nothing has worked but I do agree we could have done more. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 13, 2021 15:45:09 GMT -5
This team was at a critical point in 2018, Gettleman's first draft. He had his chance to immediately back up what he said when he was hired...fix the OL once and for all.
He then proceeds to draft Saquon with the #2 pick. I know it's old news and has been debated ad nauseum. But this, to me, was the point where this franchise was at the tipping point of going one way or the other.
Yes it probably started with Reese letting the OL age and deteriorate at the end of his tenure. But, the decisions made from 2018 until now, in the draft and free agency, doomed this franchise and this is where we are because of it.
Even when he tried to address the OL, he made bad decisions and evaluations (Solder, Hernandez,Omameh, now it looks like Peart as well).
DG was a horrible hire, and has done as much as anyone else to run this franchise into the ground. Yes, someone hired him, but he was the one making the player decisions for the most part.
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Post by jmike on Dec 13, 2021 15:52:42 GMT -5
This team was at a critical point in 2018, Gettleman's first draft. He had his chance to immediately back up what he said when he was hired...fix the OL once and for all. He then proceeds to draft Saquon with the #2 pick. I know it's old news and has been debated ad nauseum. But this, to me, was the point where this franchise was at the tipping point of going one way or the other. Yes it probably started with Reese letting the OL age and deteriorate at the end of his tenure. But, the decisions made from 2018 until now, in the draft and free agency, doomed this franchise and this is where we are because of it. Even when he tried to address the OL, he made bad decisions and evaluations (Solder, Hernandez,Omameh, now it looks like Peart as well). DG was a horrible hire, and has done as much as anyone else to run this franchise into the ground. Yes, someone hired him, but he was the one making the player decisions for the most part. 2018 1-Saquon Barkley (Quenton Nelson) 2-Will Hernandez (Branden Smith, point of note this was the guy I really wanted at this pick) 3-Lorenzo Carter (Orlando Brown) 3-BJ Hill (Alex Cappa) 4-Kyle Lauletta (Brian Allen) 5-RJ McIntosh (Jordan Mailata) |
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Post by vinnie on Dec 13, 2021 15:55:10 GMT -5
He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. Two starters lost for the season in the opening weeks. Gates was a huge loss. But no excuses for over-evaluating Peart, that's on everyone. Just because Lemieux was a “starter” doesn’t mean he was good or even average. Great, he improved from being one of the worst guards in the league in giving pressures to next to one of the worst by the end of last season. Just like everyone on our O line but Thomas, he wouldn’t even be a starter on any other team. |
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Post by Jomo on Dec 13, 2021 15:57:57 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. You are correct Cdn. I framed the question wrong. He has used and wasted a bunch of draft capital/free agency capital. Solder and Hernandez and Peart and Lemieux none of whom have panned out yet and most will not. My question "is he that bad or stupid?" sums it up. Over the course of one or two drafts bad luck can be part of it. Over 4 drafts and FA signing periods, bad luck is much less relevant. I guess he's just bad. Even this year though, how can you make a value judgement that Peart is emerging, so you draft Toney? It is just poor judgement. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 13, 2021 16:00:29 GMT -5
This team was at a critical point in 2018, Gettleman's first draft. He had his chance to immediately back up what he said when he was hired...fix the OL once and for all. He then proceeds to draft Saquon with the #2 pick. I know it's old news and has been debated ad nauseum. But this, to me, was the point where this franchise was at the tipping point of going one way or the other. Yes it probably started with Reese letting the OL age and deteriorate at the end of his tenure. But, the decisions made from 2018 until now, in the draft and free agency, doomed this franchise and this is where we are because of it. Even when he tried to address the OL, he made bad decisions and evaluations (Solder, Hernandez,Omameh, now it looks like Peart as well). DG was a horrible hire, and has done as much as anyone else to run this franchise into the ground. Yes, someone hired him, but he was the one making the player decisions for the most part. and the next draft with a stud edge rusher dropped into our lap (Josh Allen) we reached for DJ. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2021 16:07:02 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? This does not match his past performance maybe he lost his fast ball, the proof was there with his performance here the first time and finding Gems like Norwell and the tackle can't remember his name but he injured his knee in Carolina, think they believed that Peart would be ready and Lemieux would be at least average Gates and thomas above average |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 13, 2021 16:09:28 GMT -5
This team was at a critical point in 2018, Gettleman's first draft. He had his chance to immediately back up what he said when he was hired...fix the OL once and for all. He then proceeds to draft Saquon with the #2 pick. I know it's old news and has been debated ad nauseum. But this, to me, was the point where this franchise was at the tipping point of going one way or the other. Yes it probably started with Reese letting the OL age and deteriorate at the end of his tenure. But, the decisions made from 2018 until now, in the draft and free agency, doomed this franchise and this is where we are because of it. Even when he tried to address the OL, he made bad decisions and evaluations (Solder, Hernandez,Omameh, now it looks like Peart as well). DG was a horrible hire, and has done as much as anyone else to run this franchise into the ground. Yes, someone hired him, but he was the one making the player decisions for the most part. 2018 1-Saquon Barkley (Quenton Nelson) 2-Will Hernandez (Branden Smith, point of note this was the guy I really wanted at this pick) 3-Lorenzo Carter (Orlando Brown) 3-BJ Hill (Alex Cappa) 4-Kyle Lauletta (Brian Allen) 5-RJ McIntosh (Jordan Mailata) That's brutal seeing it broken down like that. That Kyle Lauletta pick was a complete waste of a draft pick. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2021 16:11:33 GMT -5
I'm one of the few folks who hasn't crucified DG, but the fact he hasn't improved the OL is something even I can't defend. There's no excuse for us to be this bad after 4 years of him being here. It's a joke. Literally everything on offense stems from the OL and we haven't had a good one in 10+ years. I gave him as much rope as I could but I did that with Reese also, when there were signs last year that they might be ready to turn the corner I was happy but this is way to much, before the OL completely fell apart the defense was the issue they gave at least 3 games away. to many things are piling up on DG being cute and missing out on Blue chip OL prospects. |
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Post by kerryisdaman on Dec 13, 2021 16:18:57 GMT -5
Two starters lost for the season in the opening weeks. Gates was a huge loss. But no excuses for over-evaluating Peart, that's on everyone. Just because Lemieux was a “starter” doesn’t mean he was good or even average. Great, he improved from being one of the worst guards in the league in giving pressures to next to one of the worst by the end of last season. Just like everyone on our O line but Thomas, he wouldn’t even be a starter on any other team. That was another of my frustrations. Forget whether Shane was good or bad. Didn't we know he injured his knee way back in July? Shouldn't we have addressed the worst case scenario then instead of waiting till week 1 or 2? |
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Post by jaymas on Dec 13, 2021 16:53:14 GMT -5
Save for 2013, All of JR's lines have been better than DGs.
Thanks, Dave.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 13, 2021 17:39:03 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? Jomo it might be worse than that. It's not that we ignored the problem we failed at fixing it. JR did address the Ol with early draft picks they all failed. The most successful were probably Beatty a 2nd rd pick, and Pugh a 1st rd pick. Guess Pugh is a much better guard than OT. Flowers a 1st rd pick at OT was a complete failure. Apparently he can also play Guard better. And I forget the name of the Center we drafted with a 2nd rd pick. Also big FA Schwartz from K.C. So two 1st rd picks, two 2nd rd picks and a big FA , All failed. Now Gettty comes along and we draft Hernandez with a 2nd rd pick. And sign Solder as a FA in his first year. Then nothing his 2nd year. Then 2 OT's in his 3rd year 1st and 3rd rd picks. Thomas should be good. Not counting LeMieux. Which brings us to nothing in his 4th year. Whoever thought Peart and LeMuiex were starters you could count on. Maybe depth. And here we go again. At this point we have 1 OL we can count on and 4 starters that need to be improved. The frustration level from Mara to the newest Giant fan is over the top. Still a mess and counting. Now Getty comes along |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 13, 2021 17:41:46 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. 100%, Ditto. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Dec 13, 2021 20:05:28 GMT -5
Save for 2013, All of JR's lines have been better than DGs. Thanks, Dave. Reese really should be back in the league. I have to look into what he's up to, but his resume >>>> David Gettleman. He should at the very least, be a director of personnel somewhere. Even McAdoo has returned from banishment...it's time. Come home Jerry. We need you.  Gettleman made me miss Reese..... Yeah..game over. |
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Post by jaymas on Dec 13, 2021 22:41:01 GMT -5
High on the list of things that got JR bounced in the end was his inability to rebuild the OL. He had several years to prepare for a group that was aging our almost simultaneously. Then several years hence, we couldn't run the ball (while drafting specimens like Engram and Barden) or give Eli enough time to throw and JR was gone. I am oversimplifying this to make a point about DG. DG comes in and hits the nail on the head in his first press conference. The OL needs fixing. Then he proceeds to not fix it. I am not saying it's easy but how can he continue to ignore the OL after identifying it as the problem? Other than Thomas, he can't point to a single OL success since he's been the GM. How could he think Peart is a useful answer at RT and draft a guy like Toney? What's the deal, can DG be that bad or stupid? He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. Which is the same thing Reese went through. Multiple high-profile to mid tier free agent signings (at the time of the deals) and Pugh, Richburg, Flowers. Just didn't hit on enough of that. I can say I think DG and Judge ignored the line this off-season and DG was kind of arrogant about it. They were both wrong on that calculation. |
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Post by cdngfan on Dec 13, 2021 22:52:24 GMT -5
He hasn’t ignored it. At all. He just wasn’t successful at fixing it. Hernandez was the touted as the “hog Molly” type linemen he wanted. Solder was the most sought after OL FA in his year (or damn close to it). Ziegler was a great find but we could afford to keep him with our other holes. Don’t mean to disagree. He hasn’t managed it well clearly. But it hasn’t been for lack of trying. Which is the same thing Reese went through. Multiple high-profile to mid tier free agent signings (at the time of the deals) and Pugh, Richburg, Flowers. Just didn't hit on enough of that. I can say I think DG and Judge ignores the line this off-season and DG was kind of arrogant about it. They were both wrong on that calculation. The line they put together for this season never played together this season. Or not much anyway. I thought it was ballsy but I don’t mind counting on young players to continue to develop. Losing Gates was an absolute killer. Galloway looks like a miss. Maybe Toney if he can’t stay healthy. SB is a miss. TE is a miss up and down the chart. Just WAY too many critical critical misses. |
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Post by allnygin on Dec 13, 2021 22:57:40 GMT -5
Imagine having one of the worst olines in the league when you take over as GM. Throughout your tenure you have 7 first round draft picks, of those you draft only one single lineman in the first round... He played roulette and lost. We had chances at getting nelson, slater etc. and I don't want to hear this "hindsight" bullshit a lot of fans KNEW these were picks that had to be made and should be made. Yet, what do fans know.. Clearly Gettlemen and company know there shit. ... yeah.. they sure did!
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Post by krappdetector on Dec 13, 2021 23:28:17 GMT -5
Oline allowed one sack.. don't think it played poorly vs. Chargers.
At least not according to pff.
And offense was still putrid.
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Post by cdngfan on Dec 13, 2021 23:31:25 GMT -5
Imagine having one of the worst olines in the league when you take over as GM. Throughout your tenure you have 7 first round draft picks, of those you draft only one single lineman in the first round... He played roulette and lost. We had chances at getting nelson, slater etc. and I don't want to hear this "hindsight" bullshit a lot of fans KNEW these were picks that had to be made and should be made. Yet, what do fans know.. Clearly Gettlemen and company know there shit. ... yeah.. they sure did! So yes saying “you should have taken this guy” is hindsight. But the point you made is the most damning and not open to hindsight criticism: 7 first round picks, one o-lineman. |
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Post by lt56 on Dec 13, 2021 23:56:06 GMT -5
Flowers and Pugh actually being productive with other teams tells me that the issue is deeper than just poor drafts
Why in the hell is the Player Development here so bad, I rarely see them take a Late Pick or Undrafted Pick and Develop them into a Productive Player other than Crowder currently. Will Hernandez, BJ Hill, Slayton a lot of these guys show flashes their rookie season but it was nothing but regression after that.
We cannot just keep drafting Lineman, it is becoming a Joke, we have the Left Tackle in Thomas, you don't spend high and 1st Round picks on Right Tackles and Interior Lineman you're supposed to be able to find those guys in Middle Rounds and take guys like Peart and Develop them into Solid Players at Right Tackle
Good QB's can compensate for Bad Lineman, while Bad QB's can make Good and Decent Lineman look REALLY BAD.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 14, 2021 7:35:39 GMT -5
Imagine having one of the worst olines in the league when you take over as GM. Throughout your tenure you have 7 first round draft picks, of those you draft only one single lineman in the first round... He played roulette and lost. We had chances at getting nelson, slater etc. and I don't want to hear this "hindsight" bullshit a lot of fans KNEW these were picks that had to be made and should be made. Yet, what do fans know.. Clearly Gettlemen and company know there shit. ... yeah.. they sure did! So yes saying “you should have taken this guy” is hindsight. But the point you made is the most damning and not open to hindsight criticism: 7 first round picks, one o-lineman. especially with him coming in with the mantra to fix the line. |
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