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Post by TCHOF on Jan 11, 2022 19:32:20 GMT -5
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 11, 2022 19:43:14 GMT -5
If the new GM is going to choose, what does it matter what anyone in the building says at this point? |
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 11, 2022 19:47:48 GMT -5
If the new GM is going to choose, what does it matter what anyone in the building says at this point? That's the point. There's no way that hope is the reality. All the PR statements that are carefully disguised as what you'd think is saying otherwise but are not really saying what you are hoping is the case, means squat. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 11, 2022 19:49:01 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect another Belichick disciple with a losing record.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 11, 2022 20:47:23 GMT -5
If the new GM is going to choose, what does it matter what anyone in the building says at this point? That's the point. There's no way that hope is the reality. All the PR statements that are carefully disguised as what you'd think is saying otherwise but are not really saying what you are hoping is the case, means squat. Everyone can believe what they want. I think the Tish/Mara owners have finally seen what many outside the organization have known for years We'll see what happens, but I'm an optimist. |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 11, 2022 20:51:55 GMT -5
If the new GM is going to choose, what does it matter what anyone in the building says at this point? Fair point |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 11, 2022 21:09:55 GMT -5
If the new GM is going to choose, what does it matter what anyone in the building says at this point? Fair point And my bet is Flores will be hired weeks before we hire a HC. Having to hire a GM first is going to put us behind on HC candidates. It's why I thought we might see JJ for another year. But I'm glad to see this organization finally agree to hire an outsider and put him in charge of everything (if they really do it). |
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Post by moecoastie on Jan 11, 2022 22:26:15 GMT -5
When will we know when Mara is completely removed from football decisions? When the wins come or will it be obvious before the winning?
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 11, 2022 22:30:35 GMT -5
And my bet is Flores will be hired weeks before we hire a HC. Having to hire a GM first is going to put us behind on HC candidates. It's why I thought we might see JJ for another year. But I'm glad to see this organization finally agree to hire an outsider and put him in charge of everything (if they really do it). might be kinda backwards as to the GM getting his guy but who wouldn't want Flores? Any blind man can see he can coach and it was a product of a dumb ass GM who wanted Tua over Justin Herbert who Flores wanted. So yeah Flores if we don't scoop him up soon he might not last thru this week!!! |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 11, 2022 23:09:44 GMT -5
And my bet is Flores will be hired weeks before we hire a HC. Having to hire a GM first is going to put us behind on HC candidates. It's why I thought we might see JJ for another year. But I'm glad to see this organization finally agree to hire an outsider and put him in charge of everything (if they really do it). might be kinda backwaAqrds as to the GM getting his guy but who wouldn't want Flores? Any blind man can see he can coach and it was a product of a dumb ass GM who wanted Tua over Justin Herbert who Flores wanted. So yeah Flores if we don't scoop him up soon he might not last thru this week!!! I like Flores too. But Mara already said the new GM was going to be in charge of coaches, which is something I've wanted for years. Do you want Mara to hire Flores as a HC before he hires a new GM? I don't. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 12, 2022 9:35:28 GMT -5
might be kinda backwaAqrds as to the GM getting his guy but who wouldn't want Flores? Any blind man can see he can coach and it was a product of a dumb ass GM who wanted Tua over Justin Herbert who Flores wanted. So yeah Flores if we don't scoop him up soon he might not last thru this week!!! I like Flores too. But Mara already said the new GM was going to be in charge of coaches, which is something I've wanted for years. Do you want Mara to hire Flores as a HC before he hires a new GM? I don't. i want the right coach and I think Flores will be that guy. Sometimes things need to be trumped if it makes sense and I think it makes sense. This isn't a perfect world and by the way if you have maybe 2-3 GM's who you have in mind then you ask them if they would/could work with Flores and maybe that'll make the GM decision easier. Might not be a perfectly done per se but life sometimes throw curve balls ect so yeah it might be strange but I believe he's our guy and I also believe any GM would/should want to work with him. |
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Post by jaymas on Jan 12, 2022 9:48:38 GMT -5
I don't think Brian Flores deserved to be fired, but why are a handful so hot on him? It's not like he set the world on fire in Miami. Good on him from rebounding and finishing 7-1, but the Dolphins absolutely had higher expectations this year.
And if he was really clashing on things like Tua, that lack of alignment is concerning. A lack of head coach and GM alignment on taking a top 10 QB is wild. It was always so weird those Deshaun Watson rumors kept coming back to the Dolphins...right after they drafted Tua.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 12, 2022 9:52:40 GMT -5
I don't think Brian Flores deserved to be fired, but why are a handful so hot on him? It's not like he set the world on fire in Miami. Good on him from rebounding and finishing 7-1, but the Dolphins absolutely had higher expectations this year. And if he was really clashing on things like Tua, that lack of alignment is concerning. A lack of head coach and GM alignment on taking a top 10 QB is wild. It was always so weird those Deshaun Watson rumors kept coming back to the Dolphins...right after they drafted Tua. He took over a franchise that was in complete overhaul. And in three years had two winning seasons. He squeezed every BTU out of that team, and got the shit end of the stick in part he didn’t see eye to eye with the general manager. Remember, the owner wanted Tua, and threw him on the lap of Flores. |
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Post by jaymas on Jan 12, 2022 10:02:54 GMT -5
I don't think Brian Flores deserved to be fired, but why are a handful so hot on him? It's not like he set the world on fire in Miami. Good on him from rebounding and finishing 7-1, but the Dolphins absolutely had higher expectations this year. And if he was really clashing on things like Tua, that lack of alignment is concerning. A lack of head coach and GM alignment on taking a top 10 QB is wild. It was always so weird those Deshaun Watson rumors kept coming back to the Dolphins...right after they drafted Tua. He took over a franchise that was in complete overhaul. And in three years had two winning seasons. He squeezed every BTU out of that team, and got the shit end of the stick in part he didn’t see eye to eye with the general manager. Remember, the owner wanted Tua, and threw him on the lap of Flores. This is fair. I think I'm still sticking to no more BB assistants. But all fair points about Flores. |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 12, 2022 10:43:33 GMT -5
I like Flores too. But Mara already said the new GM was going to be in charge of coaches, which is something I've wanted for years. Do you want Mara to hire Flores as a HC before he hires a new GM? I don't. i want the right coach and I think Flores will be that guy. Sometimes things need to be trumped if it makes sense and I think it makes sense. This isn't a perfect world and by the way if you have maybe 2-3 GM's who you have in mind then you ask them if they would/could work with Flores and maybe that'll make the GM decision easier. Might not be a perfectly done per se but life sometimes throw curve balls ect so yeah it might be strange but I believe he's our guy and I also believe any GM would/should want to work with him. I disagree. The biggest problem here is the roster, especially on offense. I don't think any HC will succeed until it's fixed. In fact, IMO, the roster was flores' issue in Miami too resulting in getting fired. I want the best possible GM to fix the roster. And you won't get the best GM by telling candidates "oh, bye the way, we've already hired your HC for you." Owners hiring coaches has resulted in the shit show we've been seeing for years. Count me out for that. |
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 12, 2022 10:46:49 GMT -5
Jon Gruden said he was interested in the Giants head coaching position back in 2017/2018 after McAdoo was fired.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 12, 2022 11:11:08 GMT -5
i want the right coach and I think Flores will be that guy. Sometimes things need to be trumped if it makes sense and I think it makes sense. This isn't a perfect world and by the way if you have maybe 2-3 GM's who you have in mind then you ask them if they would/could work with Flores and maybe that'll make the GM decision easier. Might not be a perfectly done per se but life sometimes throw curve balls ect so yeah it might be strange but I believe he's our guy and I also believe any GM would/should want to work with him. I disagree. The biggest problem here is the roster, especially on offense. I don't think any HC will succeed until it's fixed. In fact, IMO, the roster was flores' issue in Miami too resulting in getting fired. I want the best possible GM to fix the roster. And you won't get the best GM by telling candidates "oh, bye the way, we've already hired your HC for you." Owners hiring coaches has resulted in the shit show we've been seeing for years. Count me out for that. we'll have to agree to disagree lol. Did you read and hear the reports on why he was actually let go because they thought he was a hard ass. He wanted Justin Herbert and the GM wanted Tua. Flores fixed the D and special teams in one year and had that team playing tough as hell and competing during his 3 year tenure. Everyone and their momma is raving about he has moved up to the hottest candidate after being fired, the hottest available that came of nowhere. He will get another job maybe before the week is out book that lol. So yeah I also heard Miami's O line needs fixing also as well as an average qb they have so the O couldn't help the D but Flores was absolutely not fired because of not being able to get it done. Them not liking knowing he was pissed for them taking the wrong qb when he knew Tua wouldn't be that guy I guess ultimately they didn't see eye to eye and had some friction. Probably wasn't an all rosey situation. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 12, 2022 11:12:35 GMT -5
I don't think Brian Flores deserved to be fired, but why are a handful so hot on him? It's not like he set the world on fire in Miami. Good on him from rebounding and finishing 7-1, but the Dolphins absolutely had higher expectations this year. And if he was really clashing on things like Tua, that lack of alignment is concerning. A lack of head coach and GM alignment on taking a top 10 QB is wild. It was always so weird those Deshaun Watson rumors kept coming back to the Dolphins...right after they drafted Tua. He took over a franchise that was in complete overhaul. And in three years had two winning seasons. He squeezed every BTU out of that team, and got the shit end of the stick in part he didn’t see eye to eye with the general manager. Remember, the owner wanted Tua, and threw him on the lap of Flores. Amen brother I see you have been listening and studying as I was yesterday about the whole Flores situation. He will probably get re-hired by end of this week just watch lol!!!!! |
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