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Post by giants1 on Jan 22, 2022 20:33:03 GMT -5
1. Find a head coach
No kidding. One of the big reasons Joe Judge was not given a third season was the desire to sync up the new general manager with his hand-picked head coach. The first big decision for Schoen, the former Bills assistant GM, could be the biggest one he ever makes. It is not as simple as finding a handful of candidates and then picking Brian Daboll, the offensive coordinator in Buffalo.
Schoen watched as Brandon Beane hired and struck gold with Sean McDermott. Now Schoen has to uncover his own gem, no matter where the search takes him.
2. Evaluate the quarterback
“What do you think of Daniel Jones?’’ was one of the very first questions the owners asked of the GM candidates. It is believed that Schoen said he can make it work with Jones, that Jones was hurt by a bad offensive line and too many injuries to his skill players.
Expect Jones, if his sprained neck is fully healed, to be the No. 1 quarterback in 2022. That does not mean the Giants will ignore the position. Schoen will upgrade the competition around Jones, but do not dismiss the possibility of taking a quarterback in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Schoen, in his first year with Buffalo, watched Tyrod Taylor help the Bills end a 17-year playoff drought, but that didn’t stop the team from taking Josh Allen with its first pick in the 2018 draft.
3. Read the room
Schoen cannot come in and start firing members of the personnel department. There is free agency to get into and all the Giants’ scouts are in the late stages of putting together their reports on draft-eligible players. They cannot all be dismissed and replaced with a new group. Schoen will have to scout his own personnel departments and determine who stays and who goes. There will be changes, but not immediately, because the football work must go on unfettered. Eventually, Schoen will bring in some of his own people.
4. Revise the roster
You can be sure Schoen, during his sit-down interview with ownership, offered a detailed appraisal of the entirety of the Giants’ roster, from top to bottom. There is always change season to season and even more so when the guy who drafted so many of the players is no longer calling the shots. It is inaccurate to say, “No one is safe,’’ but it is entirely accurate to say, “Some who we think are safe are not.’’ Schoen has to heal up the sickly salary cap situation and that means lopping off contracts. Schoen certainly gave his thoughts on Saquon Barkley (due $7.2 million in 2022) and, soon enough, we will learn how those thoughts turn into action, one way or another.
5 Fire up the laptop
When Schoen got to Buffalo, he and Beane walked into a barren front-office situation, as far as a comprehensive analytics department was concerned. There really was not much of one. Five years later, the Bills are state of the art. The Giants made strides in Dave Gettleman’s later years as general manager, but there is more work to be done. Schoen has the authority to overhaul whatever he sees fit, and that means the Giants will be ramping up their analytics usage and deployment.
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Post by giants1 on Jan 22, 2022 20:35:16 GMT -5
Will the media focus on Schoen or his multi-billion dollar wife's family. founders and owners of U-Haul
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Post by thetruth on Jan 22, 2022 20:49:34 GMT -5
New regimes mean new QB. Almost always. May not be this off-season, but we need to have someone actually challenge Jones, instead of giving him the job he really hasn't done much to earn. Lets bring in some talent at this position as lord knows we need it. Jones can't be trusted for 17 games. Jones will be a placeholder when its found that even with a great OL, scheme, he's still just average. Something we all deep down know just find it hard to admit. Don't put words in my mouth please. WE are not at all convinced DJ is chopped liver. I personally think he has a better than average shot at being our franchise QB. Something we all deep down hope will become reality. Hoping it to become reality, and expecting it becoming reality are two different things. Im in the former, but would absolutely be delighted if proved wrong. That would help this rebuild a lot. DJ lacks arm talent as well as play recognition skills to be a franchise QB. Until I see otherwise it is what it is. This lack of faith in DJ is outside of the fact that im not sure he'll ever play 17 games in a year. I cant imagine a GM being comfortable going in the new season with DJ and nothing behind him. They have to invest |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 22, 2022 21:16:22 GMT -5
#6. Upgrade to large Pepsi's on fan appreciation day. I love it. My wife and me laughed and said the same thing riding in the car earlier this afternoon. Minor League baseball teams at least go for a tee shirt. lol |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jan 22, 2022 21:52:06 GMT -5
Will the media focus on Schoen or his multi-billion dollar wife's family. founders and owners of U-Haul More importantly, will Giants fans? |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 22, 2022 22:16:16 GMT -5
Number 5 Replace the commodore 64s with state of the art computers No more dot matrix print outs of prospects It’s kinda scary that Gettleman was pantomiming a “typewriter” when mocking analytics and not a computer it made me laugh cause he and the Giants were probably living in the typewriter age 😂. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 22, 2022 22:17:26 GMT -5
Number 5 Replace the commodore 64s with state of the art computers No more dot matrix print outs of prospects It’s kinda scary that Gettleman was pantomiming a “typewriter” when mocking analytics and not a computer it made me laugh cause he and the Giants were probably living in the typewriter age 😂. They sure tried to build a team to win in the typewriter age with Grampa Gettleman |
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Post by mendy on Jan 22, 2022 22:46:16 GMT -5
We joked that Eli should be hired full time to do “owner relations” ….as in, blow smoke up John Maras ass and make him feel involved….but keep him away from the GM and coach Keep Everyone Away. Let the new GM and HC fall on their own swords. If we have hired a HC that doesn't know what he needs to do and needs a reporter to tell him 5 points he needs to do, we're in trouble all ready. |
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Post by Martin on Jan 22, 2022 23:33:34 GMT -5
If the best solution is to have him next year than fine but I'm with you that he is not the long term answer. I hope the GM puts up competition because Jones has been injured in the past and we don't even know the extent of his current injury. Which make next years QB situation unknown. Martin with the cost in draft capital/players it would still be tough to win for the first 2-3 years. Jones is just for right now if he becomes Peyton Manning then ok one less Major hole to fill but I doubt it. I agree the fans have to be patient due to the hole the organization dug itself. Its gonna take some time. I have been watching my NY Rangers. (something that keeps me going) |
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Post by TEM on Jan 23, 2022 7:34:01 GMT -5
Keep Everyone Away. Let the new GM and HC fall on their own swords. If we have hired a HC that doesn't know what he needs to do and needs a reporter to tell him 5 points he needs to do, we're in trouble all ready. Why I want an experienced HC. The thought of getting another HC that has to rely on the experience of his staff to do his job make my stomach churn. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Jan 23, 2022 7:41:12 GMT -5
Sounds like they might be hiring some new computer folks...
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Post by mendy on Jan 23, 2022 8:19:39 GMT -5
Will the media focus on Schoen or his multi-billion dollar wife's family. founders and owners of U-Haul Here we go. |
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Post by mendy on Jan 23, 2022 8:26:31 GMT -5
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 23, 2022 9:42:33 GMT -5
Martin with the cost in draft capital/players it would still be tough to win for the first 2-3 years. Jones is just for right now if he becomes Peyton Manning then ok one less Major hole to fill but I doubt it. I agree the fans have to be patient due to the hole the organization dug itself. Its gonna take some time. I have been watching my NY Rangers. (something that keeps me going) I've been on the Rangers since the first game of the season unfortunately I don't live in New York so I have to pay for Giants,Rangers,Mets, Knicks......My neighbors joke and say I might as well burn that money it's a waste....LMAO |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 23, 2022 9:47:29 GMT -5
If we have hired a HC that doesn't know what he needs to do and needs a reporter to tell him 5 points he needs to do, we're in trouble all ready. Why I want an experienced HC. The thought of getting another HC that has to rely on the experience of his staff to do his job make my stomach churn. I think that was the issue with Judge an inexperienced HC(Joe Judge) at the NFL level surrounded by a bunch of other inexperienced coaches on the staff. I believe Jason Garrett was brought in to help Judge but between the incompetence of Dave Gettleman(poor draft management) and Judge(poor coaching) it was too much to overcome for Garrett. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 23, 2022 9:51:36 GMT -5
Why I want an experienced HC. The thought of getting another HC that has to rely on the experience of his staff to do his job make my stomach churn. I think that was the issue with Judge an inexperienced HC(Joe Judge) at the NFL level surrounded by a bunch of other inexperienced coaches on the staff. I believe Jason Garrett was brought in to help Judge but between the incompetence of Dave Gettleman(poor draft management) and Judge(poor coaching) it was too much to overcome for Garrett. I would add this. He hired his buddies. Not credentials. A bunch of non-challengers as mentors. That is the worst thing he could have done to condition himself as a HC. |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 23, 2022 10:01:51 GMT -5
I think that was the issue with Judge an inexperienced HC(Joe Judge) at the NFL level surrounded by a bunch of other inexperienced coaches on the staff. I believe Jason Garrett was brought in to help Judge but between the incompetence of Dave Gettleman(poor draft management) and Judge(poor coaching) it was too much to overcome for Garrett. I would add this. He hired his buddies. Not credentials. A bunch of non-challengers as mentors. That is the worst thing he could have done to condition himself as a HC. Agreed.....I think this time around the Giants front office want a coaching staff that is well experienced if you look at the candidates. I would take a serious look at the Buffalo Bills Secondary Coach for Defensive Coordinator. |
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Post by Martin on Jan 23, 2022 10:10:58 GMT -5
I agree the fans have to be patient due to the hole the organization dug itself. Its gonna take some time. I have been watching my NY Rangers. (something that keeps me going) I've been on the Rangers since the first game of the season unfortunately I don't live in New York so I have to pay for Giants,Rangers,Mets, Knicks......My neighbors joke and say I might as well burn that money it's a waste....LMAO Pleasure and lots of pain!!!  |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 23, 2022 11:22:02 GMT -5
We joked that Eli should be hired full time to do “owner relations” ….as in, blow smoke up John Maras ass and make him feel involved….but keep him away from the GM and coach Keep Everyone Away. Let the new GM and HC fall on their own swords. enough of the Mannings for crap sake.... |
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Post by TEM on Jan 23, 2022 11:29:05 GMT -5
Keep Everyone Away. Let the new GM and HC fall on their own swords. enough of the Mannings for crap sake.... What do you have against the Mannings? What do they have to do with the Giants FO and coaching? |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 23, 2022 11:41:19 GMT -5
enough of the Mannings for crap sake.... What do you have against the Mannings? What do they have to do with the Giants FO and coaching? nothing against them but i think they get far too much press.. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 23, 2022 11:44:25 GMT -5
What do you have against the Mannings? What do they have to do with the Giants FO and coaching? nothing against them but i think they get far too much press.. That affects the Giants in what way? I fail to see the relevance as it pertains to the subject in this thread. |
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Post by KingCap88 on Jan 24, 2022 13:18:19 GMT -5
1. Find a head coach
No kidding. One of the big reasons Joe Judge was not given a third season was the desire to sync up the new general manager with his hand-picked head coach. The first big decision for Schoen, the former Bills assistant GM, could be the biggest one he ever makes. It is not as simple as finding a handful of candidates and then picking Brian Daboll, the offensive coordinator in Buffalo.
Schoen watched as Brandon Beane hired and struck gold with Sean McDermott. Now Schoen has to uncover his own gem, no matter where the search takes him.
2. Evaluate the quarterback
“What do you think of Daniel Jones?’’ was one of the very first questions the owners asked of the GM candidates. It is believed that Schoen said he can make it work with Jones, that Jones was hurt by a bad offensive line and too many injuries to his skill players.
Expect Jones, if his sprained neck is fully healed, to be the No. 1 quarterback in 2022. That does not mean the Giants will ignore the position. Schoen will upgrade the competition around Jones, but do not dismiss the possibility of taking a quarterback in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Schoen, in his first year with Buffalo, watched Tyrod Taylor help the Bills end a 17-year playoff drought, but that didn’t stop the team from taking Josh Allen with its first pick in the 2018 draft.
3. Read the room
Schoen cannot come in and start firing members of the personnel department. There is free agency to get into and all the Giants’ scouts are in the late stages of putting together their reports on draft-eligible players. They cannot all be dismissed and replaced with a new group. Schoen will have to scout his own personnel departments and determine who stays and who goes. There will be changes, but not immediately, because the football work must go on unfettered. Eventually, Schoen will bring in some of his own people.
4. Revise the roster
You can be sure Schoen, during his sit-down interview with ownership, offered a detailed appraisal of the entirety of the Giants’ roster, from top to bottom. There is always change season to season and even more so when the guy who drafted so many of the players is no longer calling the shots. It is inaccurate to say, “No one is safe,’’ but it is entirely accurate to say, “Some who we think are safe are not.’’ Schoen has to heal up the sickly salary cap situation and that means lopping off contracts. Schoen certainly gave his thoughts on Saquon Barkley (due $7.2 million in 2022) and, soon enough, we will learn how those thoughts turn into action, one way or another.
5 Fire up the laptop
When Schoen got to Buffalo, he and Beane walked into a barren front-office situation, as far as a comprehensive analytics department was concerned. There really was not much of one. Five years later, the Bills are state of the art. The Giants made strides in Dave Gettleman’s later years as general manager, but there is more work to be done. Schoen has the authority to overhaul whatever he sees fit, and that means the Giants will be ramping up their analytics usage and deployment.
Hopefully, Mara and Tisch will give Schoen the space to do what needs to be done to drag the organization into the 21st century. |
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Post by giantsforce on Jan 25, 2022 21:49:10 GMT -5
I think he will throw in a medium size pretzel with that. (hot dog is too expensive) **** that go to Nathan's hot dogs and include them They owe us Mara owes us more than a hot dog for the years of embarrassment. |
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