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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 24, 2022 10:45:41 GMT -5
The Steelers just requested permission to speak to Patrick Graham as their DC. I guess we still own his contract ? I don't think we have to give permission cause it's a lateral move I thought only promotional moves have to be granted. Plus it's family.
But if I'm Graham lets see our defense or Pittsburgh's defense ? Him the best pass rusher in football and about 4-5 other all star starters on that unit.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 24, 2022 10:48:52 GMT -5
The Steelers just requested permission to speak to Patrick Graham as their DC. I guess we still own his contract ? I don't think we have to give permission cause it's a lateral move I thought only promotional moves have to be granted. Plus it's family. But if I'm Graham lets see our defense or Pittsburgh's defense ? Him the best pass rusher in football and about 4-5 other all star starters on that unit. They bring in a big time pass rusher from early in this draft and some LB'er depth later and things look pretty darn good defensively here still. He already has his footprint on this unit. It takes time to put your stamp on a new group. Graham also already stated he'd happily stay here as DC if he is wanted. |
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Post by Parademon1 on Jan 24, 2022 10:49:44 GMT -5
If he's under contract as our DC, how can another team ask to speak to him about their DC position?
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Post by jaymas on Jan 24, 2022 10:50:07 GMT -5
It's the opposite, it's not a head coaching interview request, which the Giants could not deny. In this situation, under contract, the Giants could technically block. I'd imagine, Graham will complete his head coaching interview here, the Giants will allow him to interview with the Steelers, but the decision will be up to our new head coach.
I'd have to imagine if our new head coach wants to keep Graham, Graham will stay.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 24, 2022 10:51:01 GMT -5
If he's under contract as our DC, how can another team ask to speak to him about their DC position? It's just in case the new head coach to be hired wants his own guys and wants to move on from Graham. The request can always be put in even for lateral moves. Teams can refuse of course. |
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Post by jaymas on Jan 24, 2022 10:58:32 GMT -5
If he's under contract as our DC, how can another team ask to speak to him about their DC position? It's just in case the new head coach to be hired wants his own guys and wants to move on from Graham. The request can always be put in even for lateral moves. Teams can refuse of course. You'd have to think if the Giants did for whatever reason, block it - it's a good sign whomever they are zeroing in on for head coach has indicated they'd be keeping Graham. I want to see him stay. Reminds me of (with much much much less success and legend) when Tomlin kept LeBeau, even when they were philosophically different. Graham has made a lot out of our defense save for a few bad, but short stretches. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 24, 2022 11:02:25 GMT -5
The Steelers just requested permission to speak to Patrick Graham as their DC. I guess we still own his contract ? I don't think we have to give permission cause it's a lateral move I thought only promotional moves have to be granted. Plus it's family. But if I'm Graham lets see our defense or Pittsburgh's defense ? Him the best pass rusher in football and about 4-5 other all star starters on that unit. They bring in a big time pass rusher from early in this draft and some LB'er depth later and things look pretty darn good defensively here still. He already has his footprint on this unit. It takes time to put your stamp on a new group. Graham also already stated he'd happily stay here as DC if he is wanted. Your right, It's not a done deal. I hope Graham stays and the new GM and HC want him. It's just that everything is in place in Pitssburgh's defense. They're problems are all on the other side of the ball. Don't know what happened to they're DC ? He did a great job. Maybe he's going to be a HC ? |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 24, 2022 11:07:10 GMT -5
If he's under contract as our DC, how can another team ask to speak to him about their DC position? Exactly it's a lateral move. I didn't know this was allowed. |
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 24, 2022 11:13:37 GMT -5
If he's under contract as our DC, how can another team ask to speak to him about their DC position? Exactly it's a lateral move. I didn't know this was allowed. Teams will usually allow assistants to interview elsewhere once a HC is fired. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 24, 2022 11:23:38 GMT -5
Exactly it's a lateral move. I didn't know this was allowed. Teams will usually allow assistants to interview elsewhere once a HC is fired. And it is the in-laws. |
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Post by FBomb on Jan 24, 2022 11:26:48 GMT -5
I don't care for the "bend but don't break" philosophy. It far to much resembles the "prevent defense". And then we let them score anyway. Especially at the end of the second qtr.
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 24, 2022 11:58:46 GMT -5
The Steelers just requested permission to speak to Patrick Graham as their DC. I guess we still own his contract ? I don't think we have to give permission cause it's a lateral move I thought only promotional moves have to be granted. Plus it's family. But if I'm Graham lets see our defense or Pittsburgh's defense ? Him the best pass rusher in football and about 4-5 other all star starters on that unit. I don't think it counts as a lat move though because wasn't he also designated as assistant head coach? |
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 24, 2022 12:00:09 GMT -5
I don't care for the "bend but don't break" philosophy. It far to much resembles the "prevent defense". And then we let them score anyway. Especially at the end of the second qtr. Agreed on this. Graham's defenses were a lot like Spags. They took too long to get going during the year and then they had a habit of kind of petering out near the end of a game. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 24, 2022 12:03:10 GMT -5
The Steelers just requested permission to speak to Patrick Graham as their DC. I guess we still own his contract ? I don't think we have to give permission cause it's a lateral move I thought only promotional moves have to be granted. Plus it's family. But if I'm Graham lets see our defense or Pittsburgh's defense ? Him the best pass rusher in football and about 4-5 other all star starters on that unit. I don't think it counts as a lat move though because wasn't he also designated as assistant head coach? I don't know. Perhaps your right. |
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Post by nick030567 on Jan 24, 2022 12:06:28 GMT -5
Regardless of if the request is granted, I hope they don't lose Graham as DC. I love his blitz schemes and the way he maximizes the potential of his players...
But damn, that Steelers defense would be amazing for him. They wouldn't miss a beat with Graham. Creative Zone blitz schemes have been the Steelers identity for quite some time. And I'm sure Graham will come up with some interesting packages with their talent
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Post by bluejayc on Jan 24, 2022 12:11:27 GMT -5
Let him walk.....was very disappointed in his defensive philosophy this year....almost Sheridan like. Look at the scoring at the end of the first half and games. Sure personnel had something to do with it but even when completely healthy they looked atrocious. Top to bottom clean out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 12:23:48 GMT -5
Get him out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 12:24:57 GMT -5
Regardless of if the request is granted, I hope they don't lose Graham as DC. I love his blitz schemes and the way he maximizes the potential of his players... But damn, that Steelers defense would be amazing for him. They wouldn't miss a beat with Graham. Creative Zone blitz schemes have been the Steelers identity for quite some time. And I'm sure Graham will come up with some interesting packages with their talent What are these blitz schemes you speak of? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 12:26:30 GMT -5
I don't care for the "bend but don't break" philosophy. It far to much resembles the "prevent defense". And then we let them score anyway. Especially at the end of the second qtr. Agreed on this. Graham's defenses were a lot like Spags. They took too long to get going during the year and then they had a habit of kind of petering out near the end of a game. But, in Spags defense, we had guys that would go up for the ball when needed. McQuarters, Madison, etc. etc. |
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