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Post by grapenut on Jan 26, 2022 12:11:24 GMT -5
They need to get a lot of things right, including Pressers on their website. Heck of a way to introduce their GM.
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Post by allnygin on Jan 26, 2022 12:20:20 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 26, 2022 12:23:11 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success |
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 26, 2022 12:25:03 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2022 12:25:19 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success Exactly this And its GM speak Yet we have fans that already hate him because he didn't say Jones sucks and has to be replaced any way we can and ASAP |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 26, 2022 12:27:18 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ He said a lot of the same things that were said before, we can compete while building and if his drafts are good and his coach is good they will. Not gonna fire everyone out of the gate he will evaluate before he fires, It's the way it works when Gettlemen went to Carollina he kept everyone. Beane was one of them Rivera also. I'm sure once he puts his program in and see's who's on board and what there record is with guys they scouted some changes will be made. |
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Post by Zimonami on Jan 26, 2022 12:28:28 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success Amen. Build the line,. He hasn't had a chance to show if he can do the job with decent, consisten blocking. He deserves a shot. Assuming the line is much better this year, albeit with 2-3 rookies likely, if DJ doesn't show appreciable improvement, thenl like you say, we move on. But, for now we cannot afford to make QB a new priority at the expense of concentrating on the line, first. |
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Post by allnygin on Jan 26, 2022 12:28:39 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success Oh I totally agree. We're just in a very shitty position with Jones.. He's on his rookie contract for one season, and I think it would be a disaster if they betted on him going onto a second contract, just based on injuries alone. They aren't going to build a complete offense around jones in one offseason. So, even though it is the best choice to remain with him for one more year, I hate hearing anything that sheds that DJ is the guy even when it's probably the correct choice (this season). Get competition in here, esp since this kid goes down every season, and start building with the intent that the team is going to need a new qb next season. Is what I hope happens. Otherwise, this team is stuck with a mediocre QB at best. |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 26, 2022 12:31:01 GMT -5
Putting an offense together to suit DJ doesn't mean they are sticking with him further than next year.
We have so many holes anything we do would suit any mobile QB.
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 26, 2022 12:34:14 GMT -5
I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success Oh I totally agree. We're just in a very shitty position with Jones.. He's on his rookie contract for one season, and I think it would be a disaster if they betted on him going onto a second contract, just based on injuries alone. They aren't going to build a complete offense around jones in one offseason. So, even though it is the best choice to remain with him for one more year, I hate hearing anything that sheds that DJ is the guy even when it's probably the correct choice (this season). Get competition in here, esp since this kid goes down every season, and start building with the intent that the team is going to need a new qb next season. Is what I hope happens. Otherwise, this team is stuck with a mediocre QB at best. Best thing we can do with DJ still on his rookie deal, is to get a decent option at backup, not even someone who will win us games, just someone who wont lose us games. If we build a good team around DJ [or any qb for that matter] it wont be such a huge drop off if DJ gets hurt or we decide to move on from him, at least we will have the pieces in place |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 26, 2022 12:34:43 GMT -5
Putting an offense together to suit DJ doesn't mean they are sticking with him further than next year. We have so many holes anything we do would suit any mobile QB. BINGO, WE HAVE A WINNER |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 26, 2022 12:35:01 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success You get it, building for DJ is just really building for the QB or team period. More then likely if he is replaced in 2023 they aren's drafting an old school pocket passer they go with what is trending mobile passer beat teams from the pocket or out of it. DJ is the best option this year and I'm sure he knows that, this guy as second in command was still out scouting prospects. haven't had that since Reese was EAs #2 Ross was playing around at Giants home games and who know what Konce was doing. Hopefully we have a good one time will tell. |
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Post by hadenough on Jan 26, 2022 12:38:08 GMT -5
An offense built for DJ…would generally be perfect for any QB. He needs a solid line and solid skill players to help. Just build it up.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 26, 2022 12:40:30 GMT -5
Putting an offense together to suit DJ doesn't mean they are sticking with him further than next year. We have so many holes anything we do would suit any mobile QB. Exactly they are building like Dallas was for Romo but he never made it out of preseason so it was Dak who enjoyed the revamped OL and the rookie runner Elliot while Romo faded away. Giants need an OL with DJ or with who ever comes down the road. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 12:41:05 GMT -5
smdh
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Post by allnygin on Jan 26, 2022 12:47:13 GMT -5
I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success More then likely if he is replaced in 2023 they aren's drafting an old school pocket passer they go with what is trending mobile passer beat teams from the pocket or out of it. DJ is the best option this year and I'm sure he knows that, this guy as second in command was still out scouting prospects. haven't had that since Reese was EAs #2 Ross was playing around at Giants home games and who know what Konce was doing. Hopefully we have a good one time will tell. That is what you hope for, and is what someone with common sense would do, that said, if they roll with DJ on a second contract... we'll be in this same position 4 years from now. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2022 12:48:51 GMT -5
I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success You get it, building for DJ is just really building for the QB or team period. More then likely if he is replaced in 2023 they aren's drafting an old school pocket passer they go with what is trending mobile passer beat teams from the pocket or out of it. DJ is the best option this year and I'm sure he knows that, this guy as second in command was still out scouting prospects. haven't had that since Reese was EAs #2 Ross was playing around at Giants home games and who know what Konce was doing. Hopefully we have a good one time will tell. Considering virtually all qbs coming out are mobile they would be building for the next guy as well |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 26, 2022 12:51:34 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ You say what Joe Douglas said about Sam Darnold. "We like Sam, and think he has a bright future, but...." There are ways of stating things to leave them open-ended. Schoen does not seem to be doing that with Jones. But the situation is also different, we don't have a premium pick in a QB-rich draft. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 26, 2022 12:55:37 GMT -5
You get it, building for DJ is just really building for the QB or team period. More then likely if he is replaced in 2023 they aren's drafting an old school pocket passer they go with what is trending mobile passer beat teams from the pocket or out of it. DJ is the best option this year and I'm sure he knows that, this guy as second in command was still out scouting prospects. haven't had that since Reese was EAs #2 Ross was playing around at Giants home games and who know what Konce was doing. Hopefully we have a good one time will tell. Considering virtually all qbs coming out are mobile they would be building for the next guy as well Pretty much. Biggest thing I got out of this presser was when Mara spoke, he said we aren't trading for deshaun watson citing cap and legal issues said they think Jones can play and admitted they have done everything possible to screw this kid up and I agree for once 100% with John Mara. This was the worst QB plan ever. |
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Post by Giggles on Jan 26, 2022 13:04:34 GMT -5
I don't love the the confidence they have in Jones. And Mara doubling down on it proves that there is a mandate for Schoen to try to make it work for him. He's going to be involved in personnel decisions no matter what he says.
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Post by McCherry on Jan 26, 2022 13:10:26 GMT -5
I don't love the the confidence they have in Jones. And Mara doubling down on it proves that there is a mandate for Schoen to try to make it work for him. He's going to be involved in personnel decisions no matter what he says. Proves nothing except that John Mara isn't completely clueless about what has happened here previously. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 26, 2022 13:10:30 GMT -5
anybody ask about Jones’ 5th year option?
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 26, 2022 13:10:49 GMT -5
I was not a big fan of DJ coming out of college, but he is our best option right now. If he doesnt take noticeable steps forward, we have to address in the 2023 draft, this isnt the year to do it. We should be focusing on building the most successful offense for DJ's strengths and do anything we can do to set him up for success Exactly this And its GM speak Yet we have fans that already hate him because he didn't say Jones sucks and has to be replaced any way we can and ASAP I just mad that he's been on the job for almost a full week, and we still haven't made the playoffs, WTF!!! |
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 26, 2022 13:13:04 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ what he really meant was I don't like any qbs in thus draft. I don't know how he can say this before an hc and oc are hired. Seems like the Dg Eli situation all over again. |
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Post by fifthavephil on Jan 26, 2022 13:15:12 GMT -5
Schoen, will have to pickup another QB,whether it is a Tribusky, Huntley or Rosen. ( as a example ) Or, draft a QB late, in the draft Mckee ( Stanford ) etc.
There no guarantees DJ can hold up ( neck) with another hit.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2022 13:15:52 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ what he really meant was I don't like any qbs in thus draft. I don't know how he can say this before an hc and oc are hired. Seems like the Dg Eli situation all over again. Did he? You do realize he can't even hint that he likes a guy because if the staff let's say fell in love with Pickett you are screaming for someone to trade up to jump us |
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 26, 2022 13:28:21 GMT -5
what he really meant was I don't like any qbs in thus draft. I don't know how he can say this before an hc and oc are hired. Seems like the Dg Eli situation all over again. Did he? You do realize he can't even hint that he likes a guy because if the staff let's say fell in love with Pickett you are screaming for someone to trade up to jump us I don't know . I can't read his mind but I just had flashbacks of when DG was hired. If you think he is keeping things under wraps that is a good theory also. I am not really big on any QBs in this draft but more importantly until we get an OC I don't know what type of qb we will be looking for. |
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Post by Giggles on Jan 26, 2022 13:34:31 GMT -5
I don't love the the confidence they have in Jones. And Mara doubling down on it proves that there is a mandate for Schoen to try to make it work for him. He's going to be involved in personnel decisions no matter what he says. Proves nothing except that John Mara isn't completely clueless about what has happened here previously. I think it shows that he still doesn't get it. Why is he even commenting on the QB? He's not qualified to evaluate him. |
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Post by FBomb on Jan 26, 2022 13:34:34 GMT -5
well, ****.. I already dislike Joe, but what else is he supposed to say about DJ You "already dislike Joe"? Based on what? |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 26, 2022 13:41:21 GMT -5
Proves nothing except that John Mara isn't completely clueless about what has happened here previously. I think it shows that he still doesn't get it. Why is he even commenting on the QB? He's not qualified to evaluate him. Anyone who watches football is qualified to say that Jones hasn't gotten enough help. |
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