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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 12:39:00 GMT -5
I watched the YT vid earlier with Schoen and Shaun Ohara and I immediately noticed a vast difference in the tone and manner in which he spoke vs how Judge did. In Judge's interview it was almost as if it was too good to be true and that no human being is that damn smart lol, almost like he sounded to damn smart for his own good and probably was not being himself. That's how Judge came off then and that's how he continued to come off in every damn interview or presser of his that I've watched. Almost fake or heck even fake.....
With Schoen he seemed like he was having a genuine sitting in the backyard having a beer conversation talking football. He wasn't overly aggressive or too calm but he seemed legitimately legit and genunine in talking about everything that matters when it comes to vision and the reality of the situation that FATSY left him in with money, ect. I took from listening to him that he has a vision and will get everyone on board with his beliefs and values and that folks will just need to fall in line and let the man lead. If he gets his guys in place or convert them to his beliefs and values I believe we become a consistently good team at minimum and one that will be able to compete game in and game out. He just need to find that HC that he can too grow with and have longevity and patience and continue to build.
And I forgot to add Schoen's resume which helps his cause unlike Judge's, and again just from the perspective of what/how two folks said what they said, regardless of what positions they held
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 26, 2022 13:00:55 GMT -5
Differences in tone between the two (Judge&Shoen)...but neither said anything stupid. I really don't care how they sound, just say the right thing.
I only remember Judge cracking once and that was in the 11 minute rant...but I have a feeling that Judge already knew he was halfway out the door at that point.
I thought Shoen's overall message sounded pretty conservative... build in the draft, doesn't like huge gambles in free-agency, use of analytics and keeping up with the trends, building a culture.
On the other hand Gettleman blundered a lot... even though he was entertaining. He could have done without mocking analytics by simulating typing on a keyboard or going off on how Barkley was god-like, etc.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 26, 2022 13:13:19 GMT -5
Everyone fell in love with Judge for his initial interviews and pressers.
Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice...
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Post by TEM on Jan 26, 2022 13:25:57 GMT -5
I would have a problem if the GM had the demeanor of a HC. There should be no comparison.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 13:37:34 GMT -5
I would have a problem if the GM had the demeanor of a HC. There should be no comparison. it says something in the legitimacy and genuiness of your words and the way one can percieve them no matter what position you hold. IMO one came off kind of fake and the other one didn't.............. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 13:39:32 GMT -5
Everyone fell in love with Judge for his initial interviews and pressers. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice... still doesn't change the fact for me that it was almost too good to be true as I initially said and damn if it didn't kind of prove me right. Even if he goes on to have success somewhere one day it's just that he might have overall been in the wrong place at the wrong time. But a lot of what he said about square pegs in round holes ect ect he to his words didn't hold true. |
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 26, 2022 13:40:03 GMT -5
schoens follow up relatively quick interview on the fan not long after the presser was actually really good, he was a little more at ease by then
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 14:02:10 GMT -5
schoens follow up relatively quick interview on the fan not long after the presser was actually really good, he was a little more at ease by then i haven't watched any yet other than the one with Shaun Ohara. A 10 minute video |
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Post by FBomb on Jan 26, 2022 14:06:25 GMT -5
Everyone fell in love with Judge for his initial interviews and pressers. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice... We won't get fooled again!!! |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 14:13:32 GMT -5
Everyone fell in love with Judge for his initial interviews and pressers. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice... We won't get fooled again!!!  ...................... Get fool me can't get fooled again..............lol lol heheheee Bush..... |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 26, 2022 14:18:15 GMT -5
Everyone fell in love with Judge for his initial interviews and pressers. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice... We won't get fooled again!!! So many of you are too easily fooled by your emotions. 50% of me thinks this will work out.... The other 50%? Already has the bourbon stocked. |
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Post by allnygin on Jan 26, 2022 14:24:10 GMT -5
seems liek a nice guy, has a good track record, BUT as others have pointed out.. SHOW ME. we've had to many ppl talk the talk, not enough walk it..
But I do feel opptimistic with DG not the one calling shots.
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Post by mendy on Jan 26, 2022 14:27:18 GMT -5
Everyone fell in love with Judge for his initial interviews and pressers. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice... We won't get fooled again!!! |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 26, 2022 14:29:39 GMT -5
Shouldn’t this be Schoen vs Gettleman being both are GMs?
Followed by Judge vs the next HC?
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Post by FBomb on Jan 26, 2022 14:32:34 GMT -5
Shouldn’t this be Schoen vs Gettleman being both are GMs? Followed by Judge vs the next HC? Good point. I noticed his "r's" didn't sound like "ah's" |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 14:45:55 GMT -5
Shouldn’t this be Schoen vs Gettleman being both are GMs? Followed by Judge vs the next HC? no the first thing that came to mind when I heard Schoen speak and what I picked up on as someone that legitimately sounds geniune, was how Judge was almost too good to be true so that's why I wanted to point out the differences in TWO people and what they said, no matter what positions they hold......... |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 26, 2022 14:48:29 GMT -5
Shouldn’t this be Schoen vs Gettleman being both are GMs? Followed by Judge vs the next HC? no the first thing that came to mind when I heard Schoen speak and what I picked up on as someone that legitimately sounds geniune, was how Judge was almost too good to be true so that's why I wanted to point out the differences in TWO people and what they said, no matter what positions they hold......... ok, how does this sound when compared the Gettleman? |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 14:53:40 GMT -5
no the first thing that came to mind when I heard Schoen speak and what I picked up on as someone that legitimately sounds geniune, was how Judge was almost too good to be true so that's why I wanted to point out the differences in TWO people and what they said, no matter what positions they hold......... ok, how does this sound when compared the Gettleman? to be honest i'd have to force myself to remember what the heck Getsy even said in his presser or first interview. If I can't remember much about it it probably was something not really worth listening to. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 26, 2022 15:55:42 GMT -5
ok, how does this sound when compared the Gettleman? to be honest i'd have to force myself to remember what the heck Getsy even said in his presser or first interview. If I can't remember much about it it probably was something not really worth listening to. he said all the right things . . . and never followed through on many of the things he said. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 26, 2022 16:17:17 GMT -5
I found the biggest difference between Schoen and Judge is that Schoen was hired to be the GM and Judge was hired to be the HC.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 16:21:37 GMT -5
to be honest i'd have to force myself to remember what the heck Getsy even said in his presser or first interview. If I can't remember much about it it probably was something not really worth listening to. he said all the right things . . . and never followed through on many of the things he said. well I recall the hog mollie stuff and him saying he realized the O line needed to be fixed. But at least Schoen comes with a pretty good resume; not with baggage of players talking bad about him, ect. That and also being fired in Carolina so yeah it was enough cause to pause. |
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Post by Jomo on Jan 26, 2022 18:18:48 GMT -5
Well, Schoen is a GM and Judge was a HC but yes, JJ thought highly of himself.
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