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Post by PennState1 on Jan 26, 2022 15:57:07 GMT -5
“The offensive line will be a priority as we move into the off-season.” - Joe Schoen
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Post by GameTime on Jan 26, 2022 16:02:17 GMT -5
thats all we can do is hope at this point
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 26, 2022 16:03:07 GMT -5
Dave Gettleman said the exact same thing. Only difference, Joe didn’t use corny cliches and the term hog molly.
The offensive line has been offensive for a decade. We’re way past the point of a priority, it has become an urgency right now.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 26, 2022 16:15:14 GMT -5
. . . all we need is some modern day play calling.
“we gotta fix the OL, let’s be honest, let’s no kid each other” Dave Gettleman
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Post by PennState1 on Jan 26, 2022 16:15:19 GMT -5
Dave Gettleman said the exact same thing. Only difference, Joe didn’t use corny cliches and the term hog molly. The offensive line has been offensive for a decade. We’re way past the point of a priority, it has become an urgency right now. No doubt! Thing is, picking future oline stars is difficult. Clearly, the team responsible for this over the last decade plus wasn’t good at it..in fact, they were horrible. I hope they clean house up and down the org and start fresh with staff that have proven track records over the past 5-10 years. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 26, 2022 16:21:22 GMT -5
Dave Gettleman said the exact same thing. Only difference, Joe didn’t use corny cliches and the term hog molly. The offensive line has been offensive for a decade. We’re way past the point of a priority, it has become an urgency right now. No doubt! Thing is, picking future oline stars is difficult. Clearly, the team responsible for this over the last decade plus wasn’t good at it..in fact, they were horrible. I hope they clean house up and down the org and start fresh with staff that have proven track records over the past 5-10 years. Remember. Gettleman invested a 1st round, a 2nd round, a 3rd round, a 5th round, traded for Zeitler, and signed Solder. Dave may have whiffed on most of his players, but the idea was there. This franchise outside a few players, have never been good at developing lineman. |
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 26, 2022 16:23:01 GMT -5
Let's hope our 1st 3 picks are OL!!!
I'd LOVE to see us walk away with Ekwonu, Linderbaum, and Kenyon Green after 2 rounds
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 26, 2022 16:31:52 GMT -5
He said it, now make it happen. The last guy said it too and then went in a different direction until Thomas.
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Post by Roswell on Jan 26, 2022 16:32:32 GMT -5
Let's hope our 1st 3 picks are OL!!! I'd LOVE to see us walk away with Ekwonu, Linderbaum, and Kenyon Green after 2 rounds Agreed. Fix it once and for all. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2022 16:35:57 GMT -5
Let's hope our 1st 3 picks are OL!!! I'd LOVE to see us walk away with Ekwonu, Linderbaum, and Kenyon Green after 2 rounds With a trade back for Linderbaum (but I still take him at 7 if I have to) So we can get a nice front 7 defensive player with our extra 2nd |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 26, 2022 16:41:38 GMT -5
No doubt! Thing is, picking future oline stars is difficult. Clearly, the team responsible for this over the last decade plus wasn’t good at it..in fact, they were horrible. I hope they clean house up and down the org and start fresh with staff that have proven track records over the past 5-10 years. Remember. Gettleman invested a 1st round, a 2nd round, a 3rd round, a 5th round, traded for Zeitler, and signed Solder. Dave may have whiffed on most of his players, but the idea was there. This franchise outside a few players, have never been good at developing lineman. And Gates was a good player who nearly had his leg amputated in week 2. Lemiuex's season never got off the ground, so we have no idea how that would've turned out either. Bad luck combined with bad drafting. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 26, 2022 16:50:13 GMT -5
Remember. Gettleman invested a 1st round, a 2nd round, a 3rd round, a 5th round, traded for Zeitler, and signed Solder. Dave may have whiffed on most of his players, but the idea was there. This franchise outside a few players, have never been good at developing lineman. And Gates was a good player who nearly had his leg amputated in week 2. Lemiuex's season never got off the ground, so we have no idea how that would've turned out either. Bad luck combined with bad drafting. Gates is the tallest midget in the circus. Tough kid, who transitioned to center fairly quickly. However, you have to treat him as not an option. You look at our line objectively, we need four players. This will not be an easy fix either. For we have other glaring issues that need to be addressed. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 26, 2022 18:29:54 GMT -5
Let's hope our 1st 3 picks are OL!!! I'd LOVE to see us walk away with Ekwonu, Linderbaum, and Kenyon Green after 2 rounds That would be a fantastic first 3 picks. |
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 26, 2022 18:38:14 GMT -5
No doubt! Thing is, picking future oline stars is difficult. Clearly, the team responsible for this over the last decade plus wasn’t good at it..in fact, they were horrible. I hope they clean house up and down the org and start fresh with staff that have proven track records over the past 5-10 years. Remember. Gettleman invested a 1st round, a 2nd round, a 3rd round, a 5th round, traded for Zeitler, and signed Solder. Dave may have whiffed on most of his players, but the idea was there. This franchise outside a few players, have never been good at developing lineman. Great post and important point. It wasn’t lack of attention. It was inability to evaluate talent. Ability to evaluate talent is what I’m hoping changes. |
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Post by Jomo on Jan 26, 2022 18:39:43 GMT -5
Well, JR told us that the talent was there on the OL. He was delusional.
DG said the first priority was to fix the OL. He quickly forgot that priority which makes him incompetent.
Schoen has a pretty low bar to work off of. Let's get it right, please.
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Post by Martin on Jan 26, 2022 18:43:12 GMT -5
No doubt! Thing is, picking future oline stars is difficult. Clearly, the team responsible for this over the last decade plus wasn’t good at it..in fact, they were horrible. I hope they clean house up and down the org and start fresh with staff that have proven track records over the past 5-10 years. Remember. Gettleman invested a 1st round, a 2nd round, a 3rd round, a 5th round, traded for Zeitler, and signed Solder. Dave may have whiffed on most of his players, but the idea was there. This franchise outside a few players, have never been good at developing lineman. They were unable to evaluate and cultivate talent. This is old news. Some of those same scouts are still there in the building collecting checks. A forensic audit needs to be done by Schoen without John Mara walking in his shadow. Lets see just how much latitude Mara gives the new GM. |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 26, 2022 19:11:22 GMT -5
“The offensive line will be a priority as we move into the off-season.” - Joe Schoen Says every Giants fan for the past 10 years for the captain obvious question. I'll note his Bill's team didn't get much out of Allen until they surrounded him with talent. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 26, 2022 19:13:54 GMT -5
his team is better? Will Schoen have a different team making the picks?
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Post by Nick6475 on Jan 26, 2022 19:31:08 GMT -5
No doubt! Thing is, picking future oline stars is difficult. Clearly, the team responsible for this over the last decade plus wasn’t good at it..in fact, they were horrible. I hope they clean house up and down the org and start fresh with staff that have proven track records over the past 5-10 years. Remember. Gettleman invested a 1st round, a 2nd round, a 3rd round, a 5th round, traded for Zeitler, and signed Solder. Dave may have whiffed on most of his players, but the idea was there. This franchise outside a few players, have never been good at developing lineman. Not sure who, but there were posters on here that lauded Gettleman for his ability to draft good OL late in the draft. |
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Post by miss86 on Jan 26, 2022 19:38:18 GMT -5
Remember. Gettleman invested a 1st round, a 2nd round, a 3rd round, a 5th round, traded for Zeitler, and signed Solder. Dave may have whiffed on most of his players, but the idea was there. This franchise outside a few players, have never been good at developing lineman. Not sure who, but there were posters on here that lauded Gettleman for his ability to draft good OL late in the draft. DG is gone! Thank goodness, the worst GM in my lifetime. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Jan 26, 2022 19:56:36 GMT -5
thats all we can do is hope at this point how many previous HCs also said that fixing the O-Line was their #1 priority??? Oh yes, all 3 of them Macadoo, Shermur and Judge all promised to get it fixed. And DG was all about getting those hog mollies as he called them bec winning as he put it begins and ends in the trenches. Well we couldn't run or pass bec the guys in the trenches on that side of the ball stunk. And on the other side they have not gotten pressure on the QB for any of those 3 coaches. Result: Epic fail So of course this new GM says his #1 priority is to fix the line to give Jones a fair shake. Ill believe it when I see it |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 26, 2022 20:05:53 GMT -5
. . . all we need is some modern day play calling. “we gotta fix the OL, let’s be honest, let’s no kid each other” Dave Gettleman He talked real tough coming in and he left like a coward with shit stains in his adult diaper. |
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Post by bigbluejeep8888 on Jan 26, 2022 20:08:56 GMT -5
Well, JR told us that the talent was there on the OL. He was delusional. DG said the first priority was to fix the OL. He quickly forgot that priority which makes him incompetent. Schoen has a pretty low bar to work off of. Let's get it right, please. How did he forget? What he did just didn't work. Big difference. Where you upset when he drafted will Hernandez? I remember lots of people being happy that will fell to us in round 2. |
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Post by PennState1 on Jan 26, 2022 21:20:22 GMT -5
And Gates was a good player who nearly had his leg amputated in week 2. Lemiuex's season never got off the ground, so we have no idea how that would've turned out either. Bad luck combined with bad drafting. Gates is the tallest midget in the circus. Tough kid, who transitioned to center fairly quickly. However, you have to treat him as not an option. You look at our line objectively, we need four players. This will not be an easy fix either. For we have other glaring issues that need to be addressed. For me, out of all the spots we need to fill, I’m hoping we end up with a pro bowl center as the anchor to this oline, and it’s leader, for a decade. |
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Post by ocgiant on Jan 26, 2022 22:24:22 GMT -5
Based on the background these are the skills that the Giants org invested in hiring him
Joe can sleep better now the MB agrees with him, LOL
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Post by Martin on Jan 26, 2022 22:55:51 GMT -5
Well, JR told us that the talent was there on the OL. He was delusional. DG said the first priority was to fix the OL. He quickly forgot that priority which makes him incompetent. Schoen has a pretty low bar to work off of. Let's get it right, please. How did he forget? What he did just didn't work. Big difference. Where you upset when he drafted will Hernandez? I remember lots of people being happy that will fell to us in round 2. The Giants also have issues developing talent as well. It's both who they pick and how to get the best out of them is the flaw they have. Schoen seems like a nice guy but I don't care about smoke and mirrors lets see the team improve some. Lets see the ship head in the right direction but its not gonna happen overnight but we should see some improvement IF this GM has talent and Mara stays the hell out of the way! |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 27, 2022 9:02:04 GMT -5
thats all we can do is hope at this point how many previous HCs also said that fixing the O-Line was their #1 priority??? Oh yes, all 3 of them Macadoo, Shermur and Judge all promised to get it fixed. And DG was all about getting those hog mollies as he called them bec winning as he put it begins and ends in the trenches. Well we couldn't run or pass bec the guys in the trenches on that side of the ball stunk. And on the other side they have not gotten pressure on the QB for any of those 3 coaches. Result: Epic fail So of course this new GM says his #1 priority is to fix the line to give Jones a fair shake. Ill believe it when I see it As my avatar shows it hopeless until its not. I didnt expect the Schoen to say anything else. I did like what Mara said about them screwing it up for Jones in every aspect. With that said I dont think Jones is a slam dunk even with a good OL. Jones, all on his own, still has every thing to prove. He has some good tools but at this point he has shown he isnt very good at using them consistently. I used to be very optimistic. I am have zero optimism. They have drained it all from the last 10 years |
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Post by Roswell on Jan 27, 2022 13:15:02 GMT -5
Since the Giants have whiffed for 10+ years in Oline drafting, with the exception of Andrew Thomas, they have very little choice but to commit both early picks to the Oline.
If they can trade back, as has been mentioned, and still draft the center of everyone’s dreams, that would be great. But they have to come away with at least 2 blue chip prospects for the Oline.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 28, 2022 7:42:27 GMT -5
thats all we can do is hope at this point Joe Schoen: “The offensive line will be a priority as we move into the off-season.” Dave Gelleman: “We gotta fix the oline let’s be honest, let’s not kid each other, big men allow you to compete, and that’s what we’ve gotta fix.” So, we are all very familiar with the talking phase. We don't have any familiarity with the implementation/delivery phase. We've been scarred as a fan base and have earned the right to be skeptical. It has nothing to do with Schoen. It is simply that many of us are in "show me" mode. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 28, 2022 7:47:43 GMT -5
thats all we can do is hope at this point Joe Schoen: “The offensive line will be a priority as we move into the off-season.” Dave Gelleman: “We gotta fix the oline let’s be honest, let’s not kid each other, big men allow you to compete, and that’s what we’ve gotta fix.” So, we are all very familiar with the talking phase. We don't have any familiarity with the execution phase. We've been scarred as a fan base and have earned the right to be skeptical. It has nothing to do with Schoen. It is simply that many of us are in "show me" mode. exactly.....if I was GM I'd be saying the same thing about the Oline etc. DG failed on execution but he had the right idea. I am keeping my avatar until they prove it wrong....lol |
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