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Post by nyg2 on Jan 26, 2022 17:00:28 GMT -5
It was a good interview, they did press him to see how much authority he has in the organization and if he's able to make personnel decisions which was important.
There's also a possibility that a HC gets announced on Saturday based on what Joe Schoen said.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 26, 2022 17:03:54 GMT -5
If the hire is going on this weekend, which I find odd. It means it’s a two man race with Daboll and Frazier.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 26, 2022 17:17:49 GMT -5
During a potential blizzard.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 26, 2022 17:21:40 GMT -5
"No more magnets in the draft room, we need digital" ...lol
My sides hurt
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Post by jaymas on Jan 26, 2022 17:39:55 GMT -5
I like Joe. Down to earth in the sense he seems like a real guy, but the job also doesn't seem to big for him.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 26, 2022 18:11:57 GMT -5
One guy there whose football IQ = the sum of the other two.
That makes it a fair fight.
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Post by hadenough on Jan 26, 2022 20:07:11 GMT -5
He’s got an Eli Manning vibe going
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 26, 2022 20:18:38 GMT -5
I like Joe. Down to earth in the sense he seems like a real guy, but the job also doesn't seem to big for him. What was interesting he brought up Ryan Cowden thanked him, wonder if he will try to bring him here as his asst GM right hand man that would be good stuff right there. |
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Post by allnygin on Jan 26, 2022 20:21:31 GMT -5
I like how he was willing to do this... Did Reese or Dave ever do this? DOesn't matter either way, but I can't really seem to recal our GMs ever sitting down to talk about the giants on a tv show. Pretty cool he was willing to makes me think he's a down to earth kind of guy and I find the best leaders are usually the ones who are smart and down to earth.
Good first impressions, now lets start winning some football around here!
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 26, 2022 20:47:30 GMT -5
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 26, 2022 20:49:03 GMT -5
Lol this guy is awesome. Pro NYG troll. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2022 20:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by yoho on Jan 26, 2022 21:24:15 GMT -5
If the hire is going on this weekend, which I find odd. It means it’s a two man race with Daboll and Frazier. I don’t think that at all, it’s a five man race until it’s a one man finish. |
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Post by yoho on Jan 26, 2022 21:25:36 GMT -5
Excapt it’s not JM’s call. It’s Schoen’s call. |
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Post by moecoastie on Jan 26, 2022 23:53:46 GMT -5
Excapt it’s not JM’s call. It’s Schoen’s call. Schoen said in his press conference that the HC decision will be collaborative decision. On T & T echoed the same thing but conceded that owners own the team and it would suck if he didnt get his first choice. Im super surprised by all the positivity after the press conference. He basically said the same things DG said all the way down to "Im not big on tearing it down and rebuilding. I believe you can build a competitive roster today while building for tomorrow." He also doesnt plan to make any major office/scouting personnel moves giving everyone a chance to prove themselves. I thought for sure the fanbase would be in an uproar. Fortunately, the media creates the narrative and everyone else piggy backs off that. IMO, this presser was a combination of Joe Judge mixed in with some DG. pretty vanilla. |
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 27, 2022 1:38:51 GMT -5
I’ve had enough giants hires impress me with great sound bites, so I’m still in “I gotta see it” mode.
But.
His message is completely different than Reese or DG. He said process 50 times. DG made generic comments about culture and the type of team he wanted to build. JS is talking about getting the entire franchise on the same page with the same vision.
He’s extending a much needed olive branch to the current FO staff to work with his process. If you’ve ever gone from a crap boss to a great boss you know what a positive impact that can have on your quality of work.
Sounds like he has the autonomy right now. He’ll eventually suggest change John is uncomfortable with and he expects to be able to make the decision, or at least convince John it’s the right thing to do. That will be the test.
Oh. The players better have the traits and values this GM is looking for. He won’t be able to install the culture he wants if he has two standards for layers and FO staff. he basically said he’ll prioritize culture over talent. I wonder if a Toney type player is going to fit in with the new culture.
We may see some surprise cuts and trades.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 27, 2022 7:59:53 GMT -5
I’ve had enough giants hires impress me with great sound bites, so I’m still in “I gotta see it” mode. But. His message is completely different than Reese or DG. He said process 50 times. DG made generic comments about culture and the type of team he wanted to build. JS is talking about getting the entire franchise on the same page with the same vision. He’s extending a much needed olive branch to the current FO staff to work with his process. If you’ve ever gone from a crap boss to a great boss you know what a positive impact that can have on your quality of work. Sounds like he has the autonomy right now. He’ll eventually suggest change John is uncomfortable with and he expects to be able to make the decision, or at least convince John it’s the right thing to do. That will be the test. Oh. The players better have the traits and values this GM is looking for. He won’t be able to install the culture he wants if he has two standards for layers and FO staff. he basically said he’ll prioritize culture over talent. I wonder if a Toney type player is going to fit in with the new culture. We may see some surprise cuts and trades. If they traded for Diggs. I don't see why they wouldn't keep Toney. I think he said they want talent but want to fill out the roster with smart player that follow and buy into the process. Then again there is so much ambiguity when you use words like our culture, right habits, etc. It really is defined by the person defining the process. "We’re going to have a concerted effort through free agency, draft or whatever it is to get the right types of guys in here that have the DNA, that have talent, that have character and that have the right habits. I think if you have enough of those guys that also have talent, you’re going to have a good football team." -Joe Schoen |
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Post by nick030567 on Jan 27, 2022 8:20:31 GMT -5
He’s got an Eli Manning vibe going I thought the same thing! Very similar, it's like they're cousins or something lol |
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 27, 2022 8:40:52 GMT -5
I’ve had enough giants hires impress me with great sound bites, so I’m still in “I gotta see it” mode. But. His message is completely different than Reese or DG. He said process 50 times. DG made generic comments about culture and the type of team he wanted to build. JS is talking about getting the entire franchise on the same page with the same vision. He’s extending a much needed olive branch to the current FO staff to work with his process. If you’ve ever gone from a crap boss to a great boss you know what a positive impact that can have on your quality of work. Sounds like he has the autonomy right now. He’ll eventually suggest change John is uncomfortable with and he expects to be able to make the decision, or at least convince John it’s the right thing to do. That will be the test. Oh. The players better have the traits and values this GM is looking for. He won’t be able to install the culture he wants if he has two standards for layers and FO staff. he basically said he’ll prioritize culture over talent. I wonder if a Toney type player is going to fit in with the new culture. We may see some surprise cuts and trades. If they traded for Diggs. I don't see why they wouldn't keep Toney. I think he said they want talent but want to fill out the roster with smart player that follow and buy into the process. Then again there is so much ambiguity when you use words like our culture, right habits, etc. It really is defined by the person defining the process. "We’re going to have a concerted effort through free agency, draft or whatever it is to get the right types of guys in here that have the DNA, that have talent, that have character and that have the right habits. I think if you have enough of those guys that also have talent, you’re going to have a good football team." -Joe Schoen Agree, but Diggs before Buffalo and after Buffalo has been a different player attitude wise. It has probably drilled the point home for Schoen that if the culture is already on the team, new players who may not have demonstrated it before just get in line when everyone else on an organization is already pulling in one unified direction. . |
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Post by wtfjjk on Jan 27, 2022 8:49:03 GMT -5
Excapt it’s not JM’s call. It’s Schoen’s call. Schoen said in his press conference that the HC decision will be collaborative decision. On T & T echoed the same thing but conceded that owners own the team and it would suck if he didnt get his first choice. Im super surprised by all the positivity after the press conference. He basically said the same things DG said all the way down to "Im not big on tearing it down and rebuilding. I believe you can build a competitive roster today while building for tomorrow." He also doesnt plan to make any major office/scouting personnel moves giving everyone a chance to prove themselves. I thought for sure the fanbase would be in an uproar. Fortunately, the media creates the narrative and everyone else piggy backs off that. IMO, this presser was a combination of Joe Judge mixed in with some DG. pretty vanilla. Yeah, not gonna crap on the guy but his interview definitely betrayed the inner workings of the org and confirmed what we all feared, the Maras noses are in everything. |
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 27, 2022 8:54:51 GMT -5
I'm encouraged that his presser wasn't the most amazing thing ever, cause it tells me he actually might not be full of $#@!
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Post by giantsalmon on Jan 27, 2022 9:07:07 GMT -5
I'm encouraged that his presser wasn't the most amazing thing ever, cause it tells me he actually might not be full of $#@! Yes if there's one thing I'm certain of, this is no money grab. He strikes me as a football lifer who grew into every role he was given. Like many on this board have done for young go getters, he has been propped up and mentored everywhere he's been because of what they saw in him. He landed his dream job and he won't forget it. |
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 27, 2022 9:10:15 GMT -5
I'm encouraged that his presser wasn't the most amazing thing ever, cause it tells me he actually might not be full of $#@! Yes if there's one thing I'm certain of, this is no money grab. He strikes me as a football lifer who grew into every role he was given. Like many on this board have done for young go getters, he has been propped up and mentored everywhere he's been because of what they saw in him. He landed his dream job and he won't forget it. yeah he does seem genuinely thankful, not just some bravado about it |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 27, 2022 9:15:41 GMT -5
Schoen said in his press conference that the HC decision will be collaborative decision. On T & T echoed the same thing but conceded that owners own the team and it would suck if he didnt get his first choice. Im super surprised by all the positivity after the press conference. He basically said the same things DG said all the way down to "Im not big on tearing it down and rebuilding. I believe you can build a competitive roster today while building for tomorrow." He also doesnt plan to make any major office/scouting personnel moves giving everyone a chance to prove themselves. I thought for sure the fanbase would be in an uproar. Fortunately, the media creates the narrative and everyone else piggy backs off that. IMO, this presser was a combination of Joe Judge mixed in with some DG. pretty vanilla. Yeah, not gonna crap on the guy but his interview definitely betrayed the inner workings of the org and confirmed what we all feared, the Maras noses are in everything. they will never not know what is going on or not be part of it. The issue comes with when the decision has to be made. If they stay out of that process then thats what we all want. If I owned the the NYGs I would totally want to know what was going on every step of the way. My boss knows everything I am doing but allows me to make the decision for my department. Mara/Tisch can have oversight and still let Schoen make the finals. |
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Post by nick030567 on Jan 27, 2022 10:16:59 GMT -5
Excapt it’s not JM’s call. It’s Schoen’s call. Schoen said in his press conference that the HC decision will be collaborative decision. On T & T echoed the same thing but conceded that owners own the team and it would suck if he didnt get his first choice. Im super surprised by all the positivity after the press conference. He basically said the same things DG said all the way down to "Im not big on tearing it down and rebuilding. I believe you can build a competitive roster today while building for tomorrow." He also doesnt plan to make any major office/scouting personnel moves giving everyone a chance to prove themselves. I thought for sure the fanbase would be in an uproar. Fortunately, the media creates the narrative and everyone else piggy backs off that. IMO, this presser was a combination of Joe Judge mixed in with some DG. pretty vanilla. Well Gettlehog WAS a successful part of both there NYG andf Panthers. He helped build dominant teams. Gettleman had there right vision, And I think his drafts with Judge were better than with Pat. My point being, I think they made a huge mistake hiring Shurmur. Mara liked him because he was everything Mac wasn't towards players and the media. It's just obvious that the owners will have a say. I never believed they wouldn't. Maybe they'll just check themselves before pushing for particular hires. Hopefully The important thing about Schoen is that his personality is very different from DG. He also seems to have more awareness of how to build a team these days |
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Post by mendy on Jan 27, 2022 10:26:31 GMT -5
I'm encouraged that his presser wasn't the most amazing thing ever, cause it tells me he actually might not be full of $#@! Yes if there's one thing I'm certain of, this is no money grab. He strikes me as a football lifer who grew into every role he was given. Like many on this board have done for young go getters, he has been propped up and mentored everywhere he's been because of what they saw in him. He landed his dream job and he won't forget it. I was wrong, his family owns U-haul, plus a few other things. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Haul |
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