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Post by Roosevelt on May 25, 2018 15:58:22 GMT -5
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Post by TEM on May 25, 2018 16:18:30 GMT -5
Would he change that tune without his running game?
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on May 25, 2018 17:08:08 GMT -5
I think he has a good point. Definitely keeps the D from keying on any one target. I like the idea. Maybe Dallas might be trying to be a little different from League trends. They did that in 2014 and 2016 by resurrecting a run first rushing attack against teams that are built to stop the passing game. That definitely bucks what everyone else has been doing. Not a bad philosophy maybe. We'll just have to wait to see if it works.
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Post by Dave_NYG on May 26, 2018 16:55:44 GMT -5
When a team has a 'number 1' receiver it just means they have someone so freakin talented that the next guy doesn't even compare.
Would you prefer Antonio Brown and a decent number 2? Or two pretty-ok receivers? Obviously Brown.
If you happen to have 2 amazing receivers, I guess that is best case. But that rarely if ever happens.
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Post by KingCap88 on May 27, 2018 10:01:28 GMT -5
Dak's comment makes me wonder if he was one of the people pushing for the Cowboys to get rid of Dez. But it's easy to say your team doesn't need a No. 1 WR when you have a strong running game, but when the opposing defense targets your No. 1 RB then you're going to wish you had a No. 1 WR to throw to.
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Post by Sarcasman on May 27, 2018 11:42:11 GMT -5
I think he has a good point. Definitely keeps the D from keying on any one target. I like the idea. Maybe Dallas might be trying to be a little different from League trends. They did that in 2014 and 2016 by resurrecting a run first rushing attack against teams that are built to stop the passing game. That definitely bucks what everyone else has been doing. Not a bad philosophy maybe. We'll just have to wait to see if it works. Is copying the Patriots really considered being different from league trends? |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on May 27, 2018 14:46:07 GMT -5
I think he has a good point. Definitely keeps the D from keying on any one target. I like the idea. Maybe Dallas might be trying to be a little different from League trends. They did that in 2014 and 2016 by resurrecting a run first rushing attack against teams that are built to stop the passing game. That definitely bucks what everyone else has been doing. Not a bad philosophy maybe. We'll just have to wait to see if it works. Is copying the Patriots really considered being different from league trends? Did the Patriots ever have a run first or a dominating run game. I hate to answer a question with a question. Is the rest of the league doing what the Patsies do? I kinda see most of the league having a dominating #1 WR. Although the Patsies use Gronkowski as a #1 WR as evidenced in the last SB. I'd like for you to expound on the question in your post as you see it. |
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Post by Sarcasman on May 28, 2018 22:12:57 GMT -5
Did the Patriots ever have a run first or a dominating run game. I hate to answer a question with a question. Is the rest of the league doing what the Patsies do? I kinda see most of the league having a dominating #1 WR. Although the Patsies use Gronkowski as a #1 WR as evidenced in the last SB. I'd like for you to expound on the question in your post as you see it. I think it's a fair question to ask; my initial response was too flip. No, I do not believe that the Patriots were a run first or a dominating run team. And Dallas certainly has re-established the run first mentality. Similar to there way Buffalo has. I was alluding more to the idea that many role players on offense, spreading the ball around keeps a defense from being able to focus on one aspect of the offense. I think the Patriots were on the leading edge of that trend. I should have been clearer in my post, my initial post was not clear; my apologies for that. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 29, 2018 17:07:26 GMT -5
The Pats have proven over and over again that you can win without a #1 type receiver in the right system. However having a #1 receiver that has game changing capabilities doesn't hurt if the ball is spread around consistently enough with some play calling creativity so you keep the defense 2nd guessing and honest...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 18:04:12 GMT -5
The Pats have proven over and over again that you can win without a #1 type receiver in the right system. However having a #1 receiver that has game changing capabilities doesn't hurt if the ball is spread around consistently enough with some play calling creativity so you keep the defense 2nd guessing and honest... And the Pats set offensive records when they did get a “#1 receiver” and didn’t lose a game until the Super Bowl. And it certainly had nothing to do with Moss that they lost. Talent is talent and talent is good for your team. That was, is, and will always be true. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 29, 2018 18:15:05 GMT -5
The Pats have proven over and over again that you can win without a #1 type receiver in the right system. However having a #1 receiver that has game changing capabilities doesn't hurt if the ball is spread around consistently enough with some play calling creativity so you keep the defense 2nd guessing and honest... And the Pats set offensive records when they did get a “#1 receiver” and didn’t lose a game until the Super Bowl. And it certainly had nothing to do with Moss that they lost. Talent is talent and talent is good for your team. That was, is, and will always be true. True, and if my memory serves me correctly Dave Gettleman said "you don't give up on talent"...Don't get me wrong TE, my point was that while you can win without a #1 receiver it certainly doesn't hurt to have one, especially one like OBJ...cheers! |
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Post by GameTime on May 30, 2018 10:43:24 GMT -5
he may have said this because he has no #1 WRs...
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Post by GameTime on May 30, 2018 10:44:44 GMT -5
The Pats have proven over and over again that you can win without a #1 type receiver in the right system. However having a #1 receiver that has game changing capabilities doesn't hurt if the ball is spread around consistently enough with some play calling creativity so you keep the defense 2nd guessing and honest... that is only because of Brady and BB scheme/creativity |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 30, 2018 11:13:18 GMT -5
The Pats have proven over and over again that you can win without a #1 type receiver in the right system. However having a #1 receiver that has game changing capabilities doesn't hurt if the ball is spread around consistently enough with some play calling creativity so you keep the defense 2nd guessing and honest... that is only because of Brady and BB scheme/creativity True |
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on May 30, 2018 15:24:12 GMT -5
Lots of good points made in the thread and I'm never going to say Dallas' coaching is anywhere near what NE has although Belicheat is showing some very strange behavior lately (for a guy known to show strange behavior).
Being a Cowboy fan I am slightly disappointed they got rid of Dez just because I favor having that one strong WR. He definitely had lost his true #1 WR flavor though. Romo made Dez better. Dez's attitude problems were a cancer on team chemistry IMO. This Gallup kid out of Colorado St. could develop but in the NFL it takes at least a year to become that guy. Dak will struggle again, I believe, if some of these receivers don't step up and I blame the Cow FO. You could see this (lack of WR talent) coming since 2015.
I agree with te88 ... there is no substitute for talent and I think teams need a stud WR. Dallas has put their talent eggs all in the OL basket and a stud RB. Going to be an interesting year. I can't wait for the season to start.
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Post by Eazy E on Jun 25, 2018 19:49:16 GMT -5
I could see Dallas being a dumpster fire this year. The biggest loss of them all is Jason Witten. How can they replace that. Its not all about the numbers in this case.
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Post by Parademon1 on Jun 25, 2018 20:23:50 GMT -5
With no true #1 stud WR in Dallas this yr, the way to beat Dallas imo is stack the box & force Dak to beat you with his arm, don't let them establish a run game cuz then Dak can be more effective with the option play & rollouts. He is a bad QB when contained in the pocket. Let him dink & dunk you between the 20s & force them to settle for 3s.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 23:22:51 GMT -5
Dak Prescott needs a better arm and some guts cause he doesn't throw deep unless the receiver is wide open by a mile.
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