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Post by vinnie on Dec 24, 2022 16:33:04 GMT -5
Are you f’in kidding? What would have been predictable is if he went to zone and started playing soft on Minnesota’s final drive. It makes me crazy how many coaches do that every week in the NFL and NCAA, the results are so predictable and always the same…the offense scores points. They’re so afraid of giving up the big play that they get away from what’s worked and give up 10-20 yard chunks at a time and let the other team drive down the field in under a minute which is exactly why we came back. It wasn’t some miraculous offensive effort, it was poor coaching on Minnesota’s part. If Jefferson didn’t make a great catch we would have stopped them. Wink blitzes in every situation and more times than not puts our shit CBs on an island. I wish he would have played softer on that weird screen like play to Jefferson. We'd be in OT right now instead of the Minn win. I know he blitzes a lot during the “regular” game and that part is pretty predictable but I can stand playing soft in the final minutes. Multiple teams lose every week because that shit, it’s my biggest pet peeve in football. It probably works 10% of the time. They won become Jefferson made a great catch. It would have been a guaranteed win in about the first 30 seconds if he played soft from the beginning.
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Post by njbigblue on Dec 24, 2022 16:33:10 GMT -5
Seahawks and Lions both lost so that's a plus.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 24, 2022 16:35:35 GMT -5
Tough loss but Seahawks and Lions lost. So its simple...beat the Colts and they are in the playoffs...why so much doom and gloom? I think they played as well as they could have.
Yeah they made some mistakes but I'm pretty confident they beat the Colts and get in.
Merry Christmas to all!
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Post by thetruth on Dec 24, 2022 16:37:08 GMT -5
ya'll need to stop what you're doing and go LOL at Prescotts pick 6
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Post by GameTime on Dec 24, 2022 16:37:25 GMT -5
Tough loss but Seahawks and Lions lost. So its simple...beat the Colts and they are in the playoffs...why so much doom and gloom? I think they played as well as they could have. Yeah they made some mistakes but I'm pretty confident they beat the Colts and get in. Merry Christmas to all! Merry Christmas!!
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Post by GameTime on Dec 24, 2022 16:37:49 GMT -5
ya'll need to stop what you're doing and go LOL at Prescotts pick 6 makes me smile
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2022 16:38:26 GMT -5
Tough loss but Seahawks and Lions lost. So its simple...beat the Colts and they are in the playoffs...why so much doom and gloom? I think they played as well as they could have. Yeah they made some mistakes but I'm pretty confident they beat the Colts and get in. Merry Christmas to all! Yes, just don't throw it to James to make damn sure too.
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Post by thetruth on Dec 24, 2022 16:40:00 GMT -5
ya'll need to stop what you're doing and go LOL at Prescotts pick 6 makes me smile but a little gross as I kind of want the Eagles to lose
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Post by miggs on Dec 24, 2022 16:44:15 GMT -5
Giants out-gained the Vikings by almost 100 yards. Daboll took the reins off Jones and he threw for 364 yards and had a 71 percent completion rate. His first interception in five games. You wanted to see Jones throw downfield he did. He competes passes to tight windows that few players can make. He has very good arm strength. Ran well. He produced 365 plus yards in total offense.
Interception is on Daboll and Jones. . Jones should have thrown ball deeper.
But no way is Hodgson going to get behind defender on over to top crossing route at the angle he took as he's not fast. That's a Shepard-Slayton play that Hodgson can't make. A play for him should have at a deeper angle behind the defender. He's ok on straight route that he did with hesitation moves that fooled defender.
If Bellinger had not fumbled, Giants would have scored on that series.
If Giants had McKinney and Jackson playing game would have been cakewalk.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 24, 2022 16:48:20 GMT -5
blowing off some steam. He's certainly not trash, but he's certainly not great either. What are you saying? You are all over the place. If anyone tried to win the game it was the QB. I’m saying he’s not a very good qb. I’m saying he had multiple chances to put this team on his back and win it. I’m saying he didn’t. I’m saying I’m tired of jones dock riders making him out to be better than he’s been .
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 24, 2022 16:49:10 GMT -5
Wink Martingale, the most predictable DC in all of ****ing football. Are you f’in kidding? What would have been predictable is if he went to zone and started playing soft on Minnesota’s final drive. It makes me crazy how many coaches do that every week in the NFL and NCAA, the results are so predictable and always the same…the offense scores points. They’re so afraid of giving up the big play that they get away from what’s worked and give up 10-20 yard chunks at a time and let the other team drive down the field in under a minute which is exactly why we came back. It wasn’t some miraculous offensive effort, it was poor coaching on Minnesota’s part. If Jefferson didn’t make a great catch we would have stopped them. The Giants have been giving up end of game drives almost all season long Wink isn't the issue when he gets a little more talent end of game winning drives or tying drives will be a thing of the past. Giants got beat because Minny was 6-13 on 3rd down and 3 of 4 in the redzone and had 2 penalties for 14 yards. The Giants were the team to beat themselves today 3 of 10 on third down 1of 2 in the redzone 2 TOs in the redzone and 7 penalties for 63 yards. They wasted a good effort on both sides of the ball with 465 yards on offense and having stopped the run and limited big plays until it counted.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 24, 2022 16:52:18 GMT -5
This is what you said and I responded to As if he did nothing right. But as I said "OK" blowing off some steam. He's certainly not trash, but he's certainly not great either. We are all blowing off steam it's not just the offense defense has been giving back a lot lately. Wink is doing a greta job working around bad ILB play and issues in the secondary like dropping picks when they are their Offense is TOs and penalties today but I think they can be a better with better weapons.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 24, 2022 16:53:37 GMT -5
Seahawks and Lions both lost so that's a plus. We need the trifecta with the Commando's they are making it hard on the young QB in Niners land
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Post by TEM on Dec 24, 2022 16:53:45 GMT -5
What are you saying? You are all over the place. If anyone tried to win the game it was the QB. I’m saying he’s not a very good qb. I’m saying he had multiple chances to put this team on his back and win it. I’m saying he didn’t. I’m saying I’m tired of jones dock riders making him out to be better than he’s been . Either we have a bad HC or he does not see it your way. He keeps trotting out a "not very good QB" every week. If the QB was bad. He would be sitting.. The HC does not mess around. If the player is not with the program he sits ( Golladay) , is cut (Crowder) . or is traded (Tony).
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Post by babybulls on Dec 24, 2022 16:54:44 GMT -5
Here’s my take, Jones didn’t lose the game, but he didn’t win it either. I also just heard, unconfirmed that there were 13 penalties on thecGiants and 1 on the Vikings.
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Post by vinnie on Dec 24, 2022 16:55:36 GMT -5
Are you f’in kidding? What would have been predictable is if he went to zone and started playing soft on Minnesota’s final drive. It makes me crazy how many coaches do that every week in the NFL and NCAA, the results are so predictable and always the same…the offense scores points. They’re so afraid of giving up the big play that they get away from what’s worked and give up 10-20 yard chunks at a time and let the other team drive down the field in under a minute which is exactly why we came back. It wasn’t some miraculous offensive effort, it was poor coaching on Minnesota’s part. If Jefferson didn’t make a great catch we would have stopped them. The Giants have been giving up end of game drives almost all season long Wink isn't the issue when he gets a little more talent end of game winning drives or tying drives will be a thing of the past. Giants got beat because Minny was 6-13 on 3rd down and 3 of 4 in the redzone and had 2 penalties for 14 yards. The Giants were the team to beat themselves today 3 of 10 on third down 1of 2 in the redzone 2 TOs in the redzone and 7 penalties for 63 yards. They wasted a good effort on both sides of the ball with 465 yards on offense and having stopped the run and limited big plays until it counted. I agree the Giants beat themselves with Bellingers fumble and DJ’s INT but if you say they beat themselves because they were 3 of 10 why can’t you flip that and say Minn played good defense for once?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 24, 2022 16:55:37 GMT -5
ya'll need to stop what you're doing and go LOL at Prescotts pick 6 Sweat snatched that shit like candy lol and rolled down the line.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 24, 2022 16:56:41 GMT -5
I’m saying he’s not a very good qb. I’m saying he had multiple chances to put this team on his back and win it. I’m saying he didn’t. I’m saying I’m tired of jones dock riders making him out to be better than he’s been . Either we have a bad HC or he does not see it your way. He keeps trotting out a "not very good QB" every week. If the QB was bad. He would be sitting.. The HC does not mess around. If the player is with the program he sits ( Golladay) , is cut (Crowder) . or is traded (Tony). Maybe one day it will manifest in reality until then we have a mediocre qb plan and simple .
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Post by thetruth on Dec 24, 2022 16:57:36 GMT -5
ya'll need to stop what you're doing and go LOL at Prescotts pick 6 Sweat snatched that shit like candy lol and rolled down the line. hes so fast too, imagine that, he's like 260 pounds!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 24, 2022 16:59:03 GMT -5
I’m saying he’s not a very good qb. I’m saying he had multiple chances to put this team on his back and win it. I’m saying he didn’t. I’m saying I’m tired of jones dock riders making him out to be better than he’s been . Either we have a bad HC or he does not see it your way. He keeps trotting out a "not very good QB" every week. If the QB was bad. He would be sitting.. The HC does not mess around. If the player is with the program he sits ( Golladay) , is cut (Crowder) . or is traded (Tony). Jones had a bad throw. He was good really excellent all game other than that they had penalties in the fringe preventing them from getting in the red and had the other TO in the red with Belly it was everyone even with all of that Richie James catches that ball this very well could should have been a win.
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Post by vinnie on Dec 24, 2022 17:06:45 GMT -5
Seahawks and Lions both lost so that's a plus. We need the trifecta with the Commando's they are making it hard on the young QB in Niners land Quadfecta…eagles beat cowgirls.
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Post by TEM on Dec 24, 2022 17:06:56 GMT -5
Either we have a bad HC or he does not see it your way. He keeps trotting out a "not very good QB" every week. If the QB was bad. He would be sitting.. The HC does not mess around. If the player is with the program he sits ( Golladay) , is cut (Crowder) . or is traded (Tony). Maybe one day it will manifest in reality until then we have a mediocre qb plan and simple . The HC seems to see it differently or Tyrod would be the QB.
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Post by allnygin on Dec 24, 2022 17:09:22 GMT -5
Maybe one day it will manifest in reality until then we have a mediocre qb plan and simple . The HC seems to see it differently or Tyrod would be the QB. That’s all that matters . I’m just a fan dude I don’t pretend to be anymore. As long as jones is in I’ll root for him also will call Out mediocrity as well
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Post by TEM on Dec 24, 2022 17:12:35 GMT -5
The HC seems to see it differently or Tyrod would be the QB. That’s all that matters . I’m just a fan dude I don’t pretend to be anymore. As long as jones is in I’ll root for him also will call Out mediocrity as well I agree we are fans. I was using observation on for my conclusion. If the QB was not doing what the HC and OC are asking him to do. He would not be in the game.
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Post by miggs on Dec 24, 2022 17:18:04 GMT -5
So many Giants pass and run plays that are not very good. Puts a lot of pressure on Jones to be precise, throw hard and early, as receiver is covered. But some very good. Jones would do even better with better plays and play calls.
Nice to see Giants offensive line protect fairly well today.
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Post by thetruth on Dec 24, 2022 17:18:19 GMT -5
Commanders making this a game with the 49ers
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 24, 2022 17:19:24 GMT -5
These are big lessons to be learned. They squandered solid efforts on both sides of the ball today offense more so at the very least they through 9 points down the toilet probably more like 13.
On defense once again at the end of a game they came up pretty short has happened more then I care to see.
No matter what happens these things will stick with Schoen and Daboll when ti comes team building time and the players that end up staying here.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 24, 2022 17:23:38 GMT -5
So many Giants pass and run plays that are not very good. Puts a lot of pressure on Jones to be precise, throw hard. and early as receiver is covered. But some very good. Jones would do even better with better plays and play calls. The system is good they piled up yards they made mistakes at every level on both sides of the ball. Giants gave this game away penalties and turnovers a Blocked punt, coming up small on D in the biggest moments is what cost them everyone gets a piece of the pie today
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Post by njbigblue on Dec 24, 2022 17:27:45 GMT -5
What are you saying? You are all over the place. If anyone tried to win the game it was the QB. I’m saying he’s not a very good qb. I’m saying he had multiple chances to put this team on his back and win it. I’m saying he didn’t. I’m saying I’m tired of jones dock riders making him out to be better than he’s been . Just stop already
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Post by allnygin on Dec 24, 2022 17:28:33 GMT -5
I’m saying he’s not a very good qb. I’m saying he had multiple chances to put this team on his back and win it. I’m saying he didn’t. I’m saying I’m tired of jones dock riders making him out to be better than he’s been . Just stop already He is mediocre deal with it
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