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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 8:12:38 GMT -5
Jackson is not very fast and he's short. Not good qualities in a DB. Has no chance against a deep pass. But Wink is not going to replace him and I don't know who should. Jefferson is very slow. Jefferson ran a 4.4 forty Jackson ran a 4.4 forty Not slow. Yeah but that isn't west coast fast obviously!!!
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Post by TEM on Jan 16, 2023 8:24:58 GMT -5
Jefferson ran a 4.4 forty Jackson ran a 4.4 forty Not slow. He may have run fast years ago, but is not doing so now. He also hesitates in coverage that allows receivers to often get separation. Jackson has a total inability to stay with a receiver on a deep route. He diesbmn't have Glott, Belton, Pinnock nor Robinson's quickness. I completely disagree with your assessment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 8:28:00 GMT -5
He may have run fast years ago, but is not doing so now. He also hesitates in coverage that allows receivers to often get separation. Jackson has a total inability to stay with a receiver on a deep route. He diesbmn't have Glott, Belton, Pinnock nor Robinson's quickness. I completely disagree with your assessment. You're not alone..
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Post by Roosevelt on Jan 16, 2023 8:28:06 GMT -5
Thanks GT! Great win today for Big Blue!
HBD! What are you like 45 now? Thank you. No almost a senior. 61.
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Post by miggs on Jan 16, 2023 8:33:36 GMT -5
Jackson is ok and should play but Giants have both faster and better DBs. I don't believe he should be the Giants no.1 CB. He's better than Moreau and Holmes.
Like to see both Collins and McCloud play over Davis.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 16, 2023 8:34:46 GMT -5
Jackson is ok and should play but Giants have both faster and better DBs. I don't believe he should be the Giants no.1 CB. What CB’s do we have that are better than Adoree?
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Post by GameTime on Jan 16, 2023 8:35:29 GMT -5
Jackson is ok and should play but Giants have both faster and better DBs. I don't believe he should be the Giants no.1 CB. maybe next season he wont be but right now he is. His experience is what separates him now. The kid can still play at a high level . The NYG s have some good young talent. Will see how it develops.
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Post by giantsalmon on Jan 16, 2023 8:37:24 GMT -5
Jackson is not very fast and he's short. Not good qualities in a DB. Has no chance against a deep pass. But Wink is not going to replace him and I don't know who should. Jefferson is very slow. Mr Simms has been a Jones believer. He knows a thing or two about going to the school of hard knocks!
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Post by miggs on Jan 16, 2023 8:47:19 GMT -5
Jackson is ok and should play but Giants have both faster and better DBs. I don't believe he should be the Giants no.1 CB. What CB’s do we have that are better than Adoree? I think Flott and Pinnock are better. Realize Flott is playing inside CB, and Pinnock is playing safety. Both are taller and faster. We shouldn't forget out how well our back-up Dbs played in the last Eagles game. As they played better that our starters did in the first Eagles game. Giants coaching staff need to recognize that and make appropriate changes.
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Post by GameTime on Jan 16, 2023 8:49:48 GMT -5
What CB’s do we have that are better than Adoree? I think Flott and Pinnock are better. Realize Flott is playing inside CB, and Pinnock is playing safety. Both are taller and faster. they are younger and have good potential for sure. I like they way the have played at times. However not they are better right now overall. They just arent
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 16, 2023 8:58:01 GMT -5
I think Flott and Pinnock are better. Realize Flott is playing inside CB, and Pinnock is playing safety. Both are taller and faster. they are younger and have good potential for sure. I like they way the have played at times. However not they are better right now overall. They just arent I have to agree. Jackson is really good covering WR's tight. No one else on the team is at his level at this point in their careers.
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Post by miggs on Jan 16, 2023 9:11:25 GMT -5
they are younger and have good potential for sure. I like they way the have played at times. However not they are better right now overall. They just arent I have to agree. Jackson is really good covering WR's tight. No one else on the team is at his level at this point in their careers. Giants back-ups played better than Jackson in second Eagles game. He not fast enough tonstay with no.1 receivers. Few can. I believe Flott can. Would also like to see Belton replace Holmes. Hope Pinnock will be able to play Sunday.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jan 16, 2023 9:19:47 GMT -5
I have to agree. Jackson is really good covering WR's tight. No one else on the team is at his level at this point in their careers. Giants back-ups played better than Jackson in second Eagles game. He can't stay with no.1 receivers. Few can. I believe Flott can. Would also like to see Belton replace Holmes. Hope Pinnock will be able to play Sunday. Not sure what you’re seeing. The key to beating that team is to not let Jefferson beat them and that primarily on Jackson. Adoree played a helluva game coming back from the knee.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 16, 2023 9:55:51 GMT -5
I have to agree. Jackson is really good covering WR's tight. No one else on the team is at his level at this point in their careers. Giants back-ups played better than Jackson in second Eagles game. He not fast enough tonstay with no.1 receivers. Few can. I believe Flott can. Would also like to see Belton replace Holmes. Hope Pinnock will be able to play Sunday. I think we watch football through a different set of eyes!!
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Post by idkaname on Jan 16, 2023 9:56:48 GMT -5
Giants back-ups played better than Jackson in second Eagles game. He can't stay with no.1 receivers. Few can. I believe Flott can. Would also like to see Belton replace Holmes. Hope Pinnock will be able to play Sunday. Not sure what you’re seeing. The key to beating that team is to not let Jefferson beat them and that primarily on Jackson. Adoree played a helluva game coming back from the knee. He's not seeing what we are...1. he's acting like Adoree had a bad game but he was on Jefferson ALOT and he had less t han 50 yards...(25 on the first drive alone)...2. He thinks Flott, the rookie, can be put on an island with other teams' #1....just silly tbh. Not really debatable
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Post by miggs on Jan 16, 2023 9:58:15 GMT -5
Giants back-ups played better than Jackson in second Eagles game. He can't stay with no.1 receivers. Few can. I believe Flott can. Would also like to see Belton replace Holmes. Hope Pinnock will be able to play Sunday. Not sure what you’re seeing. The key to beating that team is to not let Jefferson beat them and that primarily on Jackson. Adoree played a helluva game coming back from the knee. Key was keeping Jefferson from getting deep. That was McKinney's responsibility and he did it very well. Jackson was just part of the defensive scheme but Jefferson going deep was not Jackson's responsibility. Except for tackling Jefferson, Jackson was non-factor in Jefferson from catching mid-range passes..
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Post by Roosevelt on Jan 16, 2023 10:01:23 GMT -5
Not sure what you’re seeing. The key to beating that team is to not let Jefferson beat them and that primarily on Jackson. Adoree played a helluva game coming back from the knee. He's not seeing what we are...1. he's acting like Adoree had a bad game but he was on Jefferson ALOT and he had less t han 50 yards...(25 on the first drive alone)...2. He thinks Flott, the rookie, can be put on an island with other teams' #1....just silly tbh. Not really debatable I saw Flott in man make a nice play late but I would never trust him over Adoree.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jan 16, 2023 10:04:48 GMT -5
Not sure what you’re seeing. The key to beating that team is to not let Jefferson beat them and that primarily on Jackson. Adoree played a helluva game coming back from the knee. Key was keeping Jefferson from getting deep. That was McKinney's responsibility and he did it very well. Jackson was just part of the defensive scheme but Jefferson going deep was not Jackson's responsibility. Except for tackling Jefferson, Jackson was non-factor in Jefferson from catching mid-range passes.. A good tackling CB is crucial to success. DB’s who cannot tackle are back breakers.
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Post by miggs on Jan 16, 2023 10:17:50 GMT -5
He's not seeing what we are...1. he's acting like Adoree had a bad game but he was on Jefferson ALOT and he had less t han 50 yards...(25 on the first drive alone)...2. He thinks Flott, the rookie, can be put on an island with other teams' #1....just silly tbh. Not really debatable I saw Flott in man make a nice play late but I would never trust him over Adoree. Not either or. Both CBs. Want Flott on Eagle's Brown. Jackson will be torched by Brown one on one. But Wink will bracket him as he did Jefferson.Jackson hesitates far more than Flott does now. So much for experience.
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Post by idkaname on Jan 16, 2023 10:26:31 GMT -5
I saw Flott in man make a nice play late but I would never trust him over Adoree. Not either or. Both CBs. Want Flott on Eagle's Brown. Jackson will be torched by Brown one on one. But Wink will bracket him as he did Jefferson.Jackson hesitates far more than Flott does now. So much for experience. All 170 pounds of Flott is suppose to cover one of the most physical WRs in the nfl? Sounds logical
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 16, 2023 10:31:40 GMT -5
I need to take my pulse I'm legit dizzy Alcohol or blood pressure or both.
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Post by Morehead State on Jan 16, 2023 10:32:30 GMT -5
I saw Flott in man make a nice play late but I would never trust him over Adoree. Not either or. Both CBs. Want Flott on Eagle's Brown. Jackson will be torched by Brown one on one. But Wink will bracket him as he did Jefferson.Jackson hesitates far more than Flott does now. So much for experience. I don't know where this nonsense is coming from. Adoree is a very good NFL corner. And we didn't hear much from the best WR in football after the 1st quarter yesterday. Was that the case when Adoree was out a few weeks ago?
You're way off base on this.
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Post by JoeyCush on Jan 16, 2023 10:43:58 GMT -5
Woke up this morning with a huge smile on my face and immediately checked my phone to make sure what happened yesterday was for real.
Jones/SQB/Hodgins were fantastic and so clutch in key moments. Play calling was unreal. I said a few weeks ago the offense had seemed more bland since they lost all of their slot receivers and Daboll/Kafka saved the best and most creative for the post season. (Statue of Liberty play!!?)
Defensively I was concerned all game. They ran through the defense at will and I was hoping Wink was playing chess and playing conservative all game (blitz 22.5% of pass plays yesterday) only to bring the entire house that last drive but I was wrong. Edge rushers didnt do much but Dex was a beast in the middle pushing that pocket but guys were open in the secondary. No answer for Hockenson at all. Need KT and Azeez (if healthy) to bring it next week.
Jones shined in front of the world yesterday and now so many people are singing his praises. I am officially all in on bringing Jones back next year, without a doubt.
This season has been a complete and total success any way you slice it. Not only did they win 9 games, they beat teams they werent supposed to beat, made the playoffs and won a playoff game. Whatever happens after that is just gravy for me. Knocking off the Eagles in their house would just be sweetest cherry on top of all of it.
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Post by PennState1 on Jan 16, 2023 10:50:08 GMT -5
Gotta take out Jefferson today. He had at least 3 3rd and long conversions in the last game. He’s going to get his but limiting him is a big key to a win .I posted this early in game day thread. They did this!
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Post by PennState1 on Jan 16, 2023 10:52:57 GMT -5
Gotta take out Jefferson today. He had at least 3 3rd and long conversions in the last game. He’s going to get his but limiting him is a big key to a win
You know Parcells and Belichick would be all over that strategy.
. No easy task but…
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 10:57:26 GMT -5
I saw Flott in man make a nice play late but I would never trust him over Adoree. Not either or. Both CBs. Want Flott on Eagle's Brown. Jackson will be torched by Brown one on one. But Wink will bracket him as he did Jefferson.Jackson hesitates far more than Flott does now. So much for experience.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 16, 2023 11:45:06 GMT -5
What CB’s do we have that are better than Adoree? I think Flott and Pinnock are better. Realize Flott is playing inside CB, and Pinnock is playing safety. Both are taller and faster. We shouldn't forget out how well our back-up Dbs played in the last Eagles game. As they played better that our starters did in the first Eagles game. Giants coaching staff need to recognize that and make appropriate changes. Dude, I don’t think that football is your thing
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Post by TEM on Jan 16, 2023 11:58:02 GMT -5
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Post by miss86 on Jan 16, 2023 12:10:54 GMT -5
I have a birthday in 4 hours. What a nice gift Happy Birthday! Broke out shots of TAKILYA on the 2nd TD for me and my bro. What a win!
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Post by miss86 on Jan 16, 2023 12:16:07 GMT -5
Happy birthday Rosie! And many, many more!
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