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Post by idkaname on Mar 28, 2023 10:30:38 GMT -5
Let's not forget, before he got hurt in the SB, he was on his way to being the MVP of the game!  Let's not forget that was his 84th injury as well and he's 30 now but I guess the age/injury argument everyone uses doesn't apply to "their" guy |
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Post by bluebuddha on Mar 28, 2023 10:35:24 GMT -5
Surprised no one posted this yesterday š The Guy is just a good receiver at this point (When Healthy). It just isn't worth it and that's why no other team is willing to pay him more than $4M per. He still having off field problems, has health issues, and there is a bad history here. I don't think there is any chance that he comes back but maybe Mara is trying to help Odel out by pumping up his value publicly?Ā He is a QB killer. I would not want him around DJ. His best seasons were with Eli and the dude still said Eli held him back. If he understands his role and does his job I would be fine but I feel he is going to take the money and coast. |
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Post by katcavage75 on Mar 28, 2023 10:37:14 GMT -5
Great talent that can no longer stay healthy & available. Hard NO for me.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 28, 2023 10:57:41 GMT -5
Mark this moment in history....Pat Leonard reported something that was verified and not total and utter horsehit.....  Haha š |
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 28, 2023 11:01:25 GMT -5
Let's not forget, before he got hurt in the SB, he was on his way to being the MVP of the game! yet another WR (Kupp) won the MVP. Great team and the Rams called OBJās number until they called Kuppās number. |
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Post by GameTime on Mar 28, 2023 11:17:15 GMT -5
Let's not forget, before he got hurt in the SB, he was on his way to being the MVP of the game! I read this often. He had 2 receptions, 1 TD and 3 targets before he got hurt late in the second quarter. What's to say he would have done this all game with Kupp on the field as well. He wasnt on his way to an MVP at all really. He had two catches and 1 TD. |
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Post by FBomb on Mar 28, 2023 11:19:23 GMT -5
Mara no longer speaks for the Giants and their direction. Guess he's missed the spotlight. Go back into your multi million dollar hole. You are not needed.
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Post by bigbluerekncrew on Mar 28, 2023 11:25:16 GMT -5
If people donāt want him due the injury history thatās perfectly understandable, I get it. There are those however that just hate him as a person and are aloof to the fact that people mature/change as they get older. The latter is a piss poor reason so stop pretending your s*** donāt stink.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 28, 2023 11:29:21 GMT -5
Mara should continue to keep his mouth shut. I can't remember the last time he said something worth hearing.
This makes no sense unless Schoen and Daboll really want Beckham.
As someone else said, Mara is just being diplomatic; if he is truly staying out of football decisions (as he should), he just tossed a nicety to a reporter so as not to set off the social media kids. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 28, 2023 11:30:42 GMT -5
If people donāt want him due the injury history thatās perfectly understandable, I get it. There are those however that just hate him as a person and are aloof to the fact that people mature/change as they get older. The latter is a piss poor reason so stop pretending your s*** donāt stink. Sure heās a diva, but the reality is that I have never heard one teammate ever say one bad thing about him, quite the opposite in fact. |
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Post by jb456 on Mar 28, 2023 11:38:04 GMT -5
Mara no longer speaks for the Giants and their direction. Guess he's missed the spotlight. Go back into your multi million dollar hole. You are not needed. Mara should head to the retirement community at this point. |
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Post by jb456 on Mar 28, 2023 11:42:30 GMT -5
If people donāt want him due the injury history thatās perfectly understandable, I get it. There are those however that just hate him as a person and are aloof to the fact that people mature/change as they get older. The latter is a piss poor reason so stop pretending your s*** donāt stink. Sure heās a diva, but the reality is that I have never heard one teammate ever say one bad thing about him, quite the opposite in fact. You think it would be a good idea to pay top dollar for an oft injured player that also has a history of making questionable comments and doing idiotic things? The Giants are trying to build something here and they don't have the stability to deal with a me first player like OBJ. Not saying that another team couldn't handle him but I doubt the Giants can. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 28, 2023 11:47:48 GMT -5
Let's not forget, before he got hurt in the SB, he was on his way to being the MVP of the game! How can we forget something that never happened and except in dreams, isnāt true? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 28, 2023 11:48:47 GMT -5
Sure heās a diva, but the reality is that I have never heard one teammate ever say one bad thing about him, quite the opposite in fact. You think it would be a good idea to pay top dollar for an oft injured player that also has a history of making questionable comments and doing idiotic things? The Giants are trying to build something here and they don't have the stability to deal with a me first player like OBJ. Not saying that another team couldn't handle him but I doubt the Giants can. No, I do not; where did I say that? |
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Post by vinnie on Mar 28, 2023 12:43:46 GMT -5
I used to be neutral on Mara but heās starting to piss me off. Whether or not he has any say, which allegedly he doesnāt, he shouldnāt be influencing a 2nd year GM and coach with his words (same with his comments on Barkley). STFU Mara. How would any of you feel if it was your 2nd year on the job and your boss is allegedly letting you make your own decisions but starts spouting off about what heād like to see other than improving and/or winning? I hope Shoen and Dabs are big boys and donāt let that even effect their thinking one bit.
He could have easily said āI have tremendous respect for both Barkley and OBJ but Iām letting the GM and HC make those decisions and I trust they will do what they feel is right for this organization which I will fully supportā. Iām just some guy randomly typing while Iām doing cardio, why the **** canāt a multi billionaire figure that out by now, especially when he knows about all the rumors surrounding him making decisions?
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 28, 2023 13:07:47 GMT -5
If people donāt want him due the injury history thatās perfectly understandable, I get it. There are those however that just hate him as a person and are aloof to the fact that people mature/change as they get older. The latter is a piss poor reason so stop pretending your s*** donāt stink. Has he matured since being kicked off an airplane? Has he changed since trying to screw teams out of money, at the end of last year, when he knew he wasn't going to play? If the Giants signed him for the vet minimum, with a ton of incentives, I'd be cool with it. No way I'm giving OBJ a bunch of guaranteed money to sit on the sidelines and propose to kicking nets. |
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Post by mendy on Mar 28, 2023 13:22:34 GMT -5
Mara's previous involvement in matters that should have only involved the GM and HC is one of the reasons we are where we are talent wise with this franchise... no its not. |
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Post by Dezzr on Mar 28, 2023 13:25:09 GMT -5
If people donāt want him due the injury history thatās perfectly understandable, I get it. There are those however that just hate him as a person and are aloof to the fact that people mature/change as they get older. The latter is a piss poor reason so stop pretending your s*** donāt stink. Dont hate him at all, I just think he's a douche that always needs to be the center of attention. That's the last thing our young WR's need.
And mature people dont get kicked off a plane for refusing to put on a seat belt.
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Post by te88 on Mar 28, 2023 13:42:38 GMT -5
Kinda want him to be signed just to watch some heads explode.
Realistically he only makes sense on some kind of minimum/incentive laden deal with downside protection re injuries.
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Post by jerseyrattler on Mar 28, 2023 13:51:40 GMT -5
This makes no sense unless Schoen and Daboll really want Beckham.
As someone else said, Mara is just being diplomatic; if he is truly staying out of football decisions (as he should), he just tossed a nicety to a reporter so as not to set off the social media kids. Otherwise known as a Smoke Screen |
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Post by jaymas on Mar 28, 2023 13:54:01 GMT -5
The Guy is just a good receiver at this point (When Healthy). It just isn't worth it and that's why no other team is willing to pay him more than $4M per. He still having off field problems, has health issues, and there is a bad history here. I don't think there is any chance that he comes back but maybe Mara is trying to help Odel out by pumping up his value publicly? He is a QB killer. I would not want him around DJ. His best seasons were with Eli and the dude still said Eli held him back. If he understands his role and does his job I would be fine but I feel he is going to take the money and coast. I'm not saying sign OBJ (the plane incident really deterred me), but OBJ implied one time that Eli may be losing it, in 2018, which he was. They have both spoken about their relationship which is fine/good. Eli has said he's the most talented receiver he ever played with. OBJ does enough that warrants criticism on his own, probably don't need to stretch to do it. As for Mara, it basically amounts to, "if Joe and Dabes think it's a good idea, I'd love it, because I like the guy" But if they don't, then fine. |
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Post by jaymas on Mar 28, 2023 13:56:15 GMT -5
I used to be neutral on Mara but heās starting to piss me off. Whether or not he has any say, which allegedly he doesnāt, he shouldnāt be influencing a 2nd year GM and coach with his words (same with his comments on Barkley). STFU Mara. How would any of you feel if it was your 2nd year on the job and your boss is allegedly letting you make your own decisions but starts spouting off about what heād like to see other than improving and/or winning? I hope Shoen and Dabs are big boys and donāt let that even effect their thinking one bit. He could have easily said āI have tremendous respect for both Barkley and OBJ but Iām letting the GM and HC make those decisions and I trust they will do what they feel is right for this organization which I will fully supportā. Iām just some guy randomly typing while Iām doing cardio, why the **** canāt a multi billionaire figure that out by now, especially when he knows about all the rumors surrounding him making decisions? He's probably the least outwardly opinionated owner in the NFL. The Mara hate on here is conspiracy theory nonsense. Always will be. He gave a diplomatic answer to a player the organization drafted that he's fond of. He's not influencing anything. It was literally "if Joe and Dabes think its a good idea, great" "if not, also great" |
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Post by jimmieray on Mar 28, 2023 14:04:42 GMT -5
If people donāt want him due the injury history thatās perfectly understandable, I get it. There are those however that just hate him as a person and are aloof to the fact that people mature/change as they get older. The latter is a piss poor reason so stop pretending your s*** donāt stink. Dont hate him at all, I just think he's a douche that always needs to be the center of attention. That's the last thing our young WR's need.
And mature people dont get kicked off a plane for refusing to put on a seat belt.
On tape the stewardess reported to security that he had his pants off, and that may be why he didn't want to put his seat belt on. That may be a sign of something much worse than immaturity... |
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Post by mendy on Mar 28, 2023 14:06:50 GMT -5
Mara no longer speaks for the Giants and their direction. Guess he's missed the spotlight. Go back into your multi million dollar hole. You are not needed. Well it was the "Owners Meetings". |
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 28, 2023 14:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2023 14:45:27 GMT -5
Ain't happening Gunner. Sorry. |
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 28, 2023 14:54:55 GMT -5
Ain't happening Gunner.Ā Sorry. I'm just the messenger. whatever happens, happens. |
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Post by vinnie on Mar 28, 2023 15:39:05 GMT -5
I used to be neutral on Mara but heās starting to piss me off. Whether or not he has any say, which allegedly he doesnāt, he shouldnāt be influencing a 2nd year GM and coach with his words (same with his comments on Barkley). STFU Mara. How would any of you feel if it was your 2nd year on the job and your boss is allegedly letting you make your own decisions but starts spouting off about what heād like to see other than improving and/or winning? I hope Shoen and Dabs are big boys and donāt let that even effect their thinking one bit. He could have easily said āI have tremendous respect for both Barkley and OBJ but Iām letting the GM and HC make those decisions and I trust they will do what they feel is right for this organization which I will fully supportā. Iām just some guy randomly typing while Iām doing cardio, why the **** canāt a multi billionaire figure that out by now, especially when he knows about all the rumors surrounding him making decisions? He's probably the least outwardly opinionated owner in the NFL. The Mara hate on here is conspiracy theory nonsense. Always will be. He gave a diplomatic answer to a player the organization drafted that he's fond of. He's not influencing anything. It was literally "if Joe and Dabes think its a good idea, great" "if not, also great" Whatever you want to tell yourself. I think my response would have been much more appropriate. He could have left out the part where he would be in favor of it. Whatās the difference if he said āIām not in favor of it but if Joe and Dabs think itās a good idea, greatā. Do you think thatās a diplomatic answer as well? Saying he would like to see Barkley retire as a Giant? Again, how about neither you would or wouldnāt, leave it up to the GM and donāt give your opinion either way. BTW, wanting to see Barkley retire as a Giant would be a horrible business decision unless he plans on retiring in 2 years, 3 years max (most likely). |
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Post by GameTime on Mar 28, 2023 15:46:26 GMT -5
I used to be neutral on Mara but heās starting to piss me off. Whether or not he has any say, which allegedly he doesnāt, he shouldnāt be influencing a 2nd year GM and coach with his words (same with his comments on Barkley). STFU Mara. How would any of you feel if it was your 2nd year on the job and your boss is allegedly letting you make your own decisions but starts spouting off about what heād like to see other than improving and/or winning? I hope Shoen and Dabs are big boys and donāt let that even effect their thinking one bit. He could have easily said āI have tremendous respect for both Barkley and OBJ but Iām letting the GM and HC make those decisions and I trust they will do what they feel is right for this organization which I will fully supportā. Iām just some guy randomly typing while Iām doing cardio, why the **** canāt a multi billionaire figure that out by now, especially when he knows about all the rumors surrounding him making decisions? āWe certainly havenāt closed that door,āā Mara said Monday at the NFL ownersā meeting. āThatās going to be up to Joe and Dabs.Mara IS leaving it up to the GM and the HC. is the cardio taking blood from your brain? lol |
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 28, 2023 15:50:44 GMT -5
Odell almost seems like he is chasing any or every team right now. He might be better off letting his agent handle things.
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