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Post by believernyg10 on Jun 1, 2018 13:45:25 GMT -5
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jun 1, 2018 13:51:18 GMT -5
AWESOME.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jun 1, 2018 13:57:17 GMT -5
That's encouraging, but Eli's struggles have come when the defense can hit him.
We're going to need to see him play several games in the regular season before we'll know where his game is at.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jun 1, 2018 14:02:50 GMT -5
Luckily, we've got a better OL at this point then the last 4 years, not to mention Barkley's blitz pick up ability, plus utilizing Ellison correctly.....I think we're in for a show this season from Mr. Manning.
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Post by Speedman on Jun 1, 2018 14:03:48 GMT -5
That's encouraging, but Eli's struggles have come when the defense can hit him.
We're going to need to see him play several games in the regular season before we'll know where his game is at.
This season will be telling. |
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Post by Morehead State on Jun 1, 2018 14:39:20 GMT -5
QB's are always "impressive" in OTA's because they know they aren't getting hit. That is especially true with Eli when he doesn't have to worry about chucking and ducking or going down without being hit. |
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Post by TEM on Jun 1, 2018 14:42:44 GMT -5
Luckily, we've got a better OL at this point then the last 4 years, not to mention Barkley's blitz pick up ability, plus utilizing Ellison correctly.....I think we're in for a show this season from Mr. Manning. What? Just having Eli fend for himself and when it does not go the way the Head coach and GM wanted to. Blame the QB. That is not a good plan? hmmm imagine that. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jun 1, 2018 16:21:28 GMT -5
QB's are always "impressive" in OTA's because they know they aren't getting hit. That is especially true with Eli when he doesn't have to worry about chucking and ducking or going down without being hit. Where's the dislike button? |
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Post by GameTime on Jun 1, 2018 16:41:29 GMT -5
positive news is better than negative news. Its only OTAs and a vet like Eli should be impressive but I will still take the good news over bad
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Post by Speedman on Jun 1, 2018 16:58:59 GMT -5
QB's are always "impressive" in OTA's because they know they aren't getting hit. That is especially true with Eli when he doesn't have to worry about chucking and ducking or going down without being hit. Where's the dislike button? MS has control of the dislike button. He dislikes any post that says something positive about Eli. |
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Post by EliQB10 on Jun 1, 2018 17:03:12 GMT -5
That's encouraging, but Eli's struggles have come when the defense can hit him.
We're going to need to see him play several games in the regular season before we'll know where his game is at.
This... |
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Post by Roosevelt on Jun 1, 2018 17:28:11 GMT -5
Luckily, we've got a better OL at this point then the last 4 years, not to mention Barkley's blitz pick up ability, plus utilizing Ellison correctly.....I think we're in for a show this season from Mr. Manning.
All true, not to mention the Giants will no longer be saddled with Ben's high school offense and will huddle once again.
Man, I am so happy to be rid of that guy.
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Post by Jaydub on Jun 2, 2018 8:52:34 GMT -5
That's encouraging, but Eli's struggles have come when the defense can hit him.
We're going to need to see him play several games in the regular season before we'll know where his game is at.
Exactly right. It's pointless to get excited about practice, especially when the QB is wearing a red shirt. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jun 2, 2018 9:20:48 GMT -5
Luckily, we've got a better OL at this point then the last 4 years, not to mention Barkley's blitz pick up ability, plus utilizing Ellison correctly.....I think we're in for a show this season from Mr. Manning.
All true, not to mention the Giants will no longer be saddled with Ben's high school offense and will huddle once again.
Man, I am so happy to be rid of that guy.
between this and the improvements in the OL (hopefully), I'm thinking we may see the old Eli (ala 2011 playoffs) rather than the shell shocked version we've seen the last year or so. When there is no confidence in both the game plan and the line, I'm not sure how many QB's would fair well. |
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jun 2, 2018 9:56:28 GMT -5
Remember in Major League when Cerrano is destroying fastballs in spring training, then they dial up the curves? See what happens when he has guys at his feet. I actually think Kurt Warner is a good example of what is possible. He was pretty much shell-shocked from Martz letting the crap beat out of him. He still was that when he came to us. However, when he got settled in Arizona he got it back. Hopefully Eli can regain what he's lost. I'm not so sure, as a younger baseball player once I developed a hitch in my swing I was never really able to get rid of it.
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Post by Delicreep on Jun 2, 2018 10:04:37 GMT -5
That's encouraging, but Eli's struggles have come when the defense can hit him.
We're going to need to see him play several games in the regular season before we'll know where his game is at.
QB has to be the position that would be he least surprising to do well in OTA's.
It's not just that he's not going to get hit, it's that he knows he will never be touched.
Still...and good news is welcome.
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Post by Merlin on Jun 2, 2018 10:44:44 GMT -5
Power run game, 2 TE sets, threat of play action. YAC from Barkley and Odell with some sprinkled in from Engram and Shep. These things will keep Eli comfortable and confident.
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Post by Merc on Jun 2, 2018 11:32:10 GMT -5
Power run game, 2 TE sets, threat of play action. YAC from Barkley and Odell with some sprinkled in from Engram and Shep. These things will keep Eli comfortable and confident. An OLine that gives him more time in the pocket will help a lot. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jun 2, 2018 11:44:01 GMT -5
While this doesn't necessarily mean anything, its sure better than "Eli Manning was an embarrassment to watch throughout otas as he looked scared, unsteady, and quite rusty. He missed a wide open receiver by 10 yards and constantly muffed the hand offs to Barkley. He had to run to the sidelines multiple times to look at the playbook, and then tripped on his own shoelace jogging back out. Coach Shurmur could be seen rolling his eyes and spitting on the ground. Multiple players on offense let out audible groans while the defense cackled."
Yes, I'll take the positivity over the alternative.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jun 2, 2018 15:02:14 GMT -5
All I can say is nothing is proven at this time of year because we will not know if the OL is actually better until the pads come on and will not know for sure wether there will be a run game till the pads come on,these have been the reason for the offenses failures over the years, the inability to fix the OL and the run game can't be one dimensional for years and think defenses wouldn't be able to stop a predictable one trick pony.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 2, 2018 21:03:32 GMT -5
Eli looking terrific is fine. But at this point just learning the offensive system and getting it down is whats important. It's a new offense lets get everyone knowing what to do. Much more important. Eli will be just fine lets just get in sync here with these OTA's. That's whats important.
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Post by TCHOF on Jun 2, 2018 22:21:57 GMT -5
Yay!!!
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Post by ocgiant on Jun 3, 2018 0:25:42 GMT -5
So far to go but I will take any positives... don't we all need some?
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