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Post by grayphoenix on Jan 7, 2024 13:13:51 GMT -5
Did the game get flexed or something or is the splash image just incorrect?
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 7, 2024 13:16:31 GMT -5
Did the game get flexed or something or is the splash image just incorrect? NFL didn't make the week 18 time schedule until all games were done last week, so no flexed games this week.
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Post by grayphoenix on Jan 7, 2024 13:29:36 GMT -5
They didn't have a better game to put at 4 o'clock than the Eagles backups vs our lowly Giants?
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Post by scoostraw on Jan 7, 2024 13:34:36 GMT -5
They didn't have a better game to put at 4 o'clock than the Eagles backups vs our lowly Giants? I will be watching the Bears @ Packers also.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 7, 2024 14:01:36 GMT -5
If we lose I'll be upset. But then like last week, a moment later I'll be immediately grateful. Being numb to the loss after it happens is very different than the people actively rooting for us to lose to the Eagles.
Fact is with a loss or a win we could end up in the same position.
There are good to great players all over the draft if we are picking 5 through 10 we will have to trade up for a QB if thats the plan. The Giants need to get better If Schoen has another strong draft we might have to wait on the QB they can't just take one to take one. Hopefully it all falls into place and where ever the Giants pick a QB it turns out to be the right one and teh next non first round winner.
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Post by PennState1 on Jan 7, 2024 14:04:47 GMT -5
Who has a bigger game for us, Robinson or Slayton?
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 7, 2024 14:07:01 GMT -5
Who are some of your favorites? Compared to ours? I like everybody lol I figure Harrison’s genetics may supersede all. I do like Coleman though. Bias take, I’d go SEC Nabers over Odunze yet that’s kinda shallow. I think Legette is the silent darkhorse who is going to appear on a lot of radars come the combine. Corley is one of those weapons I can see dropping to a Philly or Dallas who could haunt us. Then again, wherever Belichick goes I could see Corley. Then it’s a blur for me. Receivers from Texas, USC idk remember their names. Then I can’t tell if the (other guys) at LSU and Ohio State are good or are they better b/c opponents focus on Nabers and Harrison? What do you think? I meant who are your favorite WR prospects, since you said the draft was exciting with many big/tall receivers. I havent done much research into WRs at all, obviously MHJ, Nabors, and Odunze are top notch, but after that I havent looked into many. I actually like our core WRs moving forward with WanRob, and Hyatt as our main pieces. Im not sure if Slayton will be with us next year being that he will be nearly a 8mil cap hit. Hodgins is OK, I guess, I see Shep retiring, and I dont see Campbell on our team next year. I wouldnt mind a nice complimentary piece to pair with Robinson and Hyatt, depending on where we pick I wouldnt mind the TE Bowers from Georgia
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 7, 2024 14:18:17 GMT -5
The truth is that there is no way to know exactly what is the best scenario for the team. I am old enough to remember the Pisarcik fumble. It was the best thing that could have happened. But at the time not one peson thought that. I'm old enough to remember the Pisarcik fumble also. I was at that game, I was so damn angry I'm lucky I wasn't arrested. P.S. Alcohol might have been involved. I have to laugh sometimes. This franchise has been through so much bad and good you and I have seen a lot of it in person lol some of the younger fans get hyped up like we used to, once seen it all you know it will turn sooner or later and it never happens in 2 or 3 years not even in todays NFL. The teams that finally break through the Lions, a few years ago the Browns, the Jags are coming, they have been building for years just like the Niners and Dolphins did they all had bumps in the road, we need to stay the course and hopefully our guys will make more good picks than bad for me so far so good. I'm hoping these last couple losses and the other games we gave away Jets, Bills also will have a positive affect on the franchise, bad things sometimes open eyes like the miracle at the meadow lands did.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 7, 2024 14:19:15 GMT -5
Compared to ours? I like everybody lol I figure Harrison’s genetics may supersede all. I do like Coleman though. Bias take, I’d go SEC Nabers over Odunze yet that’s kinda shallow. I think Legette is the silent darkhorse who is going to appear on a lot of radars come the combine. Corley is one of those weapons I can see dropping to a Philly or Dallas who could haunt us. Then again, wherever Belichick goes I could see Corley. Then it’s a blur for me. Receivers from Texas, USC idk remember their names. Then I can’t tell if the (other guys) at LSU and Ohio State are good or are they better b/c opponents focus on Nabers and Harrison? What do you think? I meant who are your favorite WR prospects, since you said the draft was exciting with many big/tall receivers. I havent done much research into WRs at all, obviously MHJ, Nabors, and Odunze are top notch, but after that I havent looked into many. I actually like our core WRs moving forward with WanRob, and Hyatt as our main pieces. Im not sure if Slayton will be with us next year being that he will be nearly a 8mil cap hit. Hodgins is OK, I guess, I see Shep retiring, and I dont see Campbell on our team next year. I wouldnt mind a nice complimentary piece to pair with Robinson and Hyatt, depending on where we pick I wouldnt mind the TE Bowers from Georgia I put who I like in order of mention. I’m not touching Bowers this early. Not a chance
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Post by OrangeGiant on Jan 7, 2024 15:01:18 GMT -5
Swift isn't going to play today, which means more snaps for Boston Scott behind Gainwell. He probably goes for 300 yards and 5 TDs today.
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Post by Analyst on Jan 7, 2024 15:21:06 GMT -5
Giants 23 Eagles 17
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Post by babybulls on Jan 7, 2024 15:25:17 GMT -5
Schmitz is out
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 7, 2024 15:27:16 GMT -5
I meant who are your favorite WR prospects, since you said the draft was exciting with many big/tall receivers. I havent done much research into WRs at all, obviously MHJ, Nabors, and Odunze are top notch, but after that I havent looked into many. I actually like our core WRs moving forward with WanRob, and Hyatt as our main pieces. Im not sure if Slayton will be with us next year being that he will be nearly a 8mil cap hit. Hodgins is OK, I guess, I see Shep retiring, and I dont see Campbell on our team next year. I wouldnt mind a nice complimentary piece to pair with Robinson and Hyatt, depending on where we pick I wouldnt mind the TE Bowers from Georgia I put who I like in order of mention. I’m not touching Bowers this early. Not a chance Upon MINIMAL research these guys look like nice complimentary pieces to pair with Robinson and Hyatt -Adonai Mitchell, Texas -Troy Franklin, Oregon -Keon Coleman, Florida St -Ja'lynn Polk, Washington -J Sturdivant, UCLA -Xavier Legette, S.Carolina Not really sure when they're projected to get picked, but i like our top 2 guys currently on the roster and dont see WR as THAT much of a need. Sure, its a need, but not as pressing as other positions like OG or IDL
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 7, 2024 15:28:02 GMT -5
SMH he should be taking as many snaps as possible
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Post by McCherry on Jan 7, 2024 15:30:38 GMT -5
SMH he should be taking as many snaps as possible He's been playing injured the last few weeks.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 7, 2024 15:32:30 GMT -5
SMH he should be taking as many snaps as possible I guess they're saving him for the playoffs...
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 7, 2024 15:32:52 GMT -5
SMH he should be taking as many snaps as possible He's been playing injured the last few weeks. OK so hes out with a shin injury and Bredeson moves to C, what is our OL gonna look like today? Personally Id like to sit Thomas as well
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 7, 2024 15:33:22 GMT -5
I put who I like in order of mention. I’m not touching Bowers this early. Not a chance Upon MINIMAL research these guys look like nice complimentary pieces to pair with Robinson and Hyatt -Adonai Mitchell, Texas -Troy Franklin, Oregon -Keon Coleman, Florida St -Ja'lynn Polk, Washington -J Sturdivant, UCLA -Xavier Legette, S.Carolina Not really sure when they're projected to get picked, but i like our top 2 guys currently on the roster and dont see WR as THAT much of a need. Sure, its a need, but not as pressing as other positions like OG or IDL Coleman is going to be a #1 imo. I don’t see a legit #1 on this Giants roster.
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Post by Bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 15:34:14 GMT -5
This is a must LOSE game! We could draft anywhere from #2 spot to the #8 spot depending on this game! The future is more important than this garbage meaningless game in this garbage meaningless season! Play the 3rd stringers and out tank the Eagles! Imagine a GM and HC talking this way. I know, you can’t. But I can!
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Post by SG88 on Jan 7, 2024 15:34:59 GMT -5
A win does nothing for me. The fact that people want the Giants to win is evidence of their loyalty. I’m not “ dumb loyal. “. I want the best possible draft pick. I’m not going to cheer to lose but I hope we do - I’ll be unaffected. Blind loyalty is for……the blind. We have a number of Ray Charles fans. To those that think those hoping to lose for a higher draft should find another team to cheer for that is so lame. Wanting this piss poor team to win a meaningless game just for the sake of winning shows you’re more concerned about your own butt hurt feelings than you are about the future of the Giants. Hoping to beat a team that’s gonna sit there starters in the last game of the season shows just how desperate you are for a win. I’m not a desperate person. I have no issue with your opinion on this. You can fan however you want to fan. Fandom police are always lame. Me, I'm going to root for a win while not even caring about the outcome. That's how I'm choosing to fan.
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 7, 2024 15:35:00 GMT -5
Is our OL gonna consist of
LT- Matt Peart LG- Justin Pugh C- Ben Bredeson RG- Marcus McKethan RT- Yodny Cajuste
WOOF
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 7, 2024 15:37:15 GMT -5
A win does nothing for me. The fact that people want the Giants to win is evidence of their loyalty. I’m not “ dumb loyal. “. I want the best possible draft pick. I’m not going to cheer to lose but I hope we do - I’ll be unaffected. Blind loyalty is for……the blind. We have a number of Ray Charles fans. To those that think those hoping to lose for a higher draft should find another team to cheer for that is so lame. Wanting this piss poor team to win a meaningless game just for the sake of winning shows you’re more concerned about your own butt hurt feelings than you are about the future of the Giants. Hoping to beat a team that’s gonna sit there starters in the last game of the season shows just how desperate you are for a win. I’m not a desperate person. I have no issue with your opinion on this. You can fan however you want to fan. Fandom police are always lame. Me, I'm going to root for a win while not even caring about the outcome. That's how I'm choosing to fan. looks like the Pats will lose, which means we could move up to 3 at best, and personally, I don't see Dallas losing, so that makes it 4. Assuming the Jets and Titans don't blow their 4th quarter leads, that makes our window picks 4 - 6. No way in hell I'll root for us to lose for that minimal draft gain, but again, to each their own...
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Post by Bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 15:38:07 GMT -5
Seriously, what does it mean beating the Eagles in a garbage game, with a QB that's gone, the Eagles could care less by not playing there starters for most of the game! We win and lose in the draft which is far more important!
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Post by Kase1 on Jan 7, 2024 15:39:28 GMT -5
Upon MINIMAL research these guys look like nice complimentary pieces to pair with Robinson and Hyatt -Adonai Mitchell, Texas -Troy Franklin, Oregon -Keon Coleman, Florida St -Ja'lynn Polk, Washington -J Sturdivant, UCLA -Xavier Legette, S.Carolina Not really sure when they're projected to get picked, but i like our top 2 guys currently on the roster and dont see WR as THAT much of a need. Sure, its a need, but not as pressing as other positions like OG or IDL Coleman is going to be a #1 imo. I don’t see a legit #1 on this Giants roster. With a good WR coach they can take him from a complimentary piece to a focal piece. Hes got the raw talent, he just needs to refine some of the 'finer' aspects of his game. We dont really have a #1 'alpha-type' WR on this team right now, depending where we draft we might get 1, or we might get another complimentary piece. Depends where the cards fall, and weather we feel like DJ is the QB of the future
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 7, 2024 15:41:21 GMT -5
Seriously, what does it mean beating the Eagles in a garbage game, with a QB that's gone, the Eagles could care less by not playing there starters for most of the game! We win and lose in the draft which is far more important! see my post above yours...
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Post by Bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 15:45:59 GMT -5
A win does nothing for me. The fact that people want the Giants to win is evidence of their loyalty. I’m not “ dumb loyal. “. I want the best possible draft pick. I’m not going to cheer to lose but I hope we do - I’ll be unaffected. Blind loyalty is for……the blind. We have a number of Ray Charles fans. To those that think those hoping to lose for a higher draft should find another team to cheer for that is so lame. Wanting this piss poor team to win a meaningless game just for the sake of winning shows you’re more concerned about your own butt hurt feelings than you are about the future of the Giants. Hoping to beat a team that’s gonna sit there starters in the last game of the season shows just how desperate you are for a win. I’m not a desperate person. You are so right! This game has no upside in winning this game except losing out in the draft! It proves nothing! Look what the eagles did to us pulling there QB a few years back keeping us out of the playoffs! Did they care losing that game on purpose? **** this game!, lose, baby, lose!
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Post by McCherry on Jan 7, 2024 15:47:14 GMT -5
He's been playing injured the last few weeks. OK so hes out with a shin injury and Bredeson moves to C, what is our OL gonna look like today? Personally Id like to sit Thomas as well Bredeson has done ok at Center. Overall, it's going to look like shit.
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Post by scoostraw on Jan 7, 2024 15:55:34 GMT -5
Seriously, what does it mean beating the Eagles in a garbage game, with a QB that's gone, the Eagles could care less by not playing there starters for most of the game! We win and lose in the draft which is far more important! Be careful Jeep. I'd hate to see you run afoul of the fan police here.
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Post by vinnie on Jan 7, 2024 15:57:34 GMT -5
I might be pulling for the Giants to win this game after all since apparently draft position is less important than beating a teams back ups and here’s why. **** Schoen having more options to save his job, I want to pad my wallet. The Giants are currently +195 on the ML. I’ll be keeping a close eye on the cows/comanders game (as will the eagles) and once the cows get up by 14 I expect the Eagles to start pulling their starters and therefore giving us a somewhat legitimate chance to win, even if we’re behind at that time. So if I throw down $300 and this plays out like I’m almost positive it will, I would make $585.
The question is are our starters capable of beating the majority of their back ups and can they overcome a potential deficit by the time philthy pulls their starters?
TBH, I probably won’t have the cajones to do it and will stick to what I usually do which are live bets.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 7, 2024 15:57:58 GMT -5
I don't think we be ****ed at all. I'd prefer Keon Coleman over Nabers, there's two stud OTs, a stud TE, at least one pass rusher and anywhere from 2-5 QBs that could go early (depending who you believe). Plus a couple really good CBs. Bottom line, even at 8th we should be able to get a quality starter at a position of need (we need pretty much everything).
Also it's a 1% chance we fall to 8th according to everything I've read.
At 8 those 2 stud OTs will be gone for sure. Pass Rushers, Bowers, and the CBs will most likely be available. I really dont want to take a CB in the 1st, personally, Id prefer us to go with a vet as our other outside CB to pair along with Banks. I feel like a strong vet presence will help with the development of Banks, Flott, Hawkins and who know, maybe even Aaron Robinson... is he still a football player? LOL I'm just saying even if we end up 8th there will be plenty of options for us. I agree about CB, but it's an option. If 3 QBs, 2 OTs and 2 WRs go then that leaves every defensive player, the "3rd" best WR and Bowers. A stud pass rusher paired with Dex and Thibs? Keon Coleman? Both great options to me.
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