Oline free agents

[mikethenygfan]

What olineman will be free agents next year? Who should we target? Would you say center or guard is a bigger need? We need a center a guard and a tackle unless wheeler shows significant improvement. I think we should draft a LT to play rt for a couple years then move him to LT when solder is done. Hoping for a quality starting guard and center in free agency. Also we need to draft some depth.

[Kase1]

Not too sure about free agents but there are some good prospects in the draft, a few of my favorites are

Jonah Williams*, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-4. Weight: 297.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Williams has played well for Alabama but has not faced a good edge rusher yet. He is a smart blocker who is steady and reliable. Team sources say they are projecting Williams to right tackle or guard and think he would only be an emergency left tackle who could finish out a game because he's smart, but teams wouldn't want him to start at left tackle.
According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Williams checks in at 6-foot-4, 297 pounds and is said to run a fast 40 at 5.10 seconds. Measurement data has him with 33.63-inch arms, 9.13-inch hands, and an 81.25-inch wing span.
Williams was a freshman starter at right tackle for Alabama in 2016 and did a nice job of opening holes in the ground game. He took over as the starting left tackle with Cam Robinson moving on to the NFL, and Williams played well on the blind side in 2017. He is an intelligent blocker who has the versatility to be effective in the run game and in pass protection. He has size, flexibility and mobility.
One AFC scout for National said he had Williams graded on the second day of the 2019 NFL Draft entering the 2018 season. They thought he may have to play at right tackle or guard in the NFL, but they said that Williams is very smart and reliable. With a good year, he could be a late first-round candidate given the need at the position across the league.

Dalton Risner, OT/C, Kansas State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2019): 3-4.
10/13/18: Risner is playing right tackle for Kansas State, but he could be a better fit at center in the NFL because he has problems with speed rushers off the edge. That was given proof against Mississippi State as Montez Sweat gave Risner a lot of problems.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Risner checks in at 6-foot-4, 297 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 5.30 seconds. Measurement data has him with 33.75-inch arms, 10.5-inch hands, and an 81.75-inch wing span.
Risner started out his collegiate career well at the center position. After performing well on the inside of the line, the Kansas State coaches moved Risner to right tackle, and he performed well on the edge. Risner has been a reliable blocker for the Wildcats. For the NFL, moving back to center could be his best fit.

Tyler Biadasz**, C, Wisconsin
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Biadasz has played well for Wisconsin, opening a lot of holes at the point of attack.
8/28/18: After redshirting in 2016, Biadasz broke into the starting lineup last season and performed very well for the Badgers. Biadasz was a tough run blocker who helped open a lot of holes for Jonathan Taylor. Biadasz could be even better in 2018 and 2019 after gaining experience.

Michael Jordan*, C/G, Ohio State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 312.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2019): 2-3.
10/13/18: Jordan has moved to center this season, and he has played well there in the early going while not often being tested by good talent. If Jordan proves to be a good starter at center this season, that will really improve his value for the NFL and could push his draft grade up. In speaking with sources, they see Jordan as a potential second-day pick. However, some scouts who have been through Ohio State tell me that they think Jordan is unlikely to enter the 2019 NFL Draft.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Jordan checks in at 6-foot-6, 312 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in 5.20 seconds. His arms measure at 34.63 inches, his hands at 10.25 inches, and his wing span at 84 inches. He has excellent size and length for guard, and his measureables would fit as a tackle.
Jordan broke into the starting lineup as a freshman at guard and showed improvement in 2017 as a sophomore. Jordan should keep up the recent tradition of early-round interior line prospects from Ohio State. He has good size to go with strength and athleticism. After gaining experience and developing, Jordan could dominate as a junior and senior to become an early-round pick in his draft class.

Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Jenkins has been a steady blocker in the middle of the Mississippi State offensive line this season. Overall, he had an impressive game against Auburn as Bulldogs quarterback Nick Fitzgerald had a lot of success running behind Jenkins.
At the point of attack, Jenkins is quick to the second level and does a nice job of beating defenders to a spot to wall them off. He is quick, agile, and athletic on the inside with the ability to fire to the second level. Jenkins is very effective at double-team combo blocks with guards and is reliable to get gaps open with his double-team skills. In pass protection, Jenkins has a good anchor with the size to handle bull rushes. He may not grade out as a first-round pick, but he could be a good second-day selection who is a plug-and-play starter in the NFL.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Jenkins checks in at 6-foot-4, 304 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 5.05 seconds. His arms measure at 34.25 inches, his hands at 10.13 inches, and his wing span at 83.38 inches.
Jenkins is a athletic and quick interior blocker who has been very impressive for the Bulldogs over the past two seasons. Sources who have done some advance work for the 2019 NFL Draft say that Jenkins has impressed them and possesses early-round potential. Jenkins has good size to be a starting center in the NFL, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the change in offense under the new Mississippi State coaching staff.

[Parademon1]

Should we not need a QB next yr either because Lauletta won the job or we signed a FA QB, then DG should draft Any of those 4 guys #1 & #2. IMO, th right side of the OL has to be taken care of in 2019. Yrs of OL neglect has killed this team.

[Blue Hulk]

Hey Kase1....Those guys aren't very good and won't be going first round. This a crappy OL class.

[Blue Hulk]

Oct 16, 2018 13:08:18 GMT -5 Parademon1 said:

Should we not need a QB next yr either because Lauletta won the job or we signed a FA QB, then DG should draft Any of those 4 guys #1 & #2. IMO, th right side of the OL has to be taken care of in 2019. Yrs of OL neglect has killed this team.

You think that DG should draft guys slated to go in the 3rd round in the first round?


Look at their draft projections. Unless someone has round 1 and only round 1 as their projection, then I guarantee they will go later. The only legit first rounder is injured......

If any of those guys goes in the top 20, I'd be surprised unless they had a great combine.

[mikethenygfan]

Oct 16, 2018 13:01:06 GMT -5 Kase1 said:

Not too sure about free agents but there are some good prospects in the draft, a few of my favorites are

Jonah Williams*, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-4. Weight: 297.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Williams has played well for Alabama but has not faced a good edge rusher yet. He is a smart blocker who is steady and reliable. Team sources say they are projecting Williams to right tackle or guard and think he would only be an emergency left tackle who could finish out a game because he's smart, but teams wouldn't want him to start at left tackle.
According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Williams checks in at 6-foot-4, 297 pounds and is said to run a fast 40 at 5.10 seconds. Measurement data has him with 33.63-inch arms, 9.13-inch hands, and an 81.25-inch wing span.
Williams was a freshman starter at right tackle for Alabama in 2016 and did a nice job of opening holes in the ground game. He took over as the starting left tackle with Cam Robinson moving on to the NFL, and Williams played well on the blind side in 2017. He is an intelligent blocker who has the versatility to be effective in the run game and in pass protection. He has size, flexibility and mobility.
One AFC scout for National said he had Williams graded on the second day of the 2019 NFL Draft entering the 2018 season. They thought he may have to play at right tackle or guard in the NFL, but they said that Williams is very smart and reliable. With a good year, he could be a late first-round candidate given the need at the position across the league.

Dalton Risner, OT/C, Kansas State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2019): 3-4.
10/13/18: Risner is playing right tackle for Kansas State, but he could be a better fit at center in the NFL because he has problems with speed rushers off the edge. That was given proof against Mississippi State as Montez Sweat gave Risner a lot of problems.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Risner checks in at 6-foot-4, 297 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 5.30 seconds. Measurement data has him with 33.75-inch arms, 10.5-inch hands, and an 81.75-inch wing span.
Risner started out his collegiate career well at the center position. After performing well on the inside of the line, the Kansas State coaches moved Risner to right tackle, and he performed well on the edge. Risner has been a reliable blocker for the Wildcats. For the NFL, moving back to center could be his best fit.

Tyler Biadasz**, C, Wisconsin
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Biadasz has played well for Wisconsin, opening a lot of holes at the point of attack.
8/28/18: After redshirting in 2016, Biadasz broke into the starting lineup last season and performed very well for the Badgers. Biadasz was a tough run blocker who helped open a lot of holes for Jonathan Taylor. Biadasz could be even better in 2018 and 2019 after gaining experience.

Michael Jordan*, C/G, Ohio State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 312.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2019): 2-3.
10/13/18: Jordan has moved to center this season, and he has played well there in the early going while not often being tested by good talent. If Jordan proves to be a good starter at center this season, that will really improve his value for the NFL and could push his draft grade up. In speaking with sources, they see Jordan as a potential second-day pick. However, some scouts who have been through Ohio State tell me that they think Jordan is unlikely to enter the 2019 NFL Draft.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Jordan checks in at 6-foot-6, 312 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in 5.20 seconds. His arms measure at 34.63 inches, his hands at 10.25 inches, and his wing span at 84 inches. He has excellent size and length for guard, and his measureables would fit as a tackle.
Jordan broke into the starting lineup as a freshman at guard and showed improvement in 2017 as a sophomore. Jordan should keep up the recent tradition of early-round interior line prospects from Ohio State. He has good size to go with strength and athleticism. After gaining experience and developing, Jordan could dominate as a junior and senior to become an early-round pick in his draft class.

Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Jenkins has been a steady blocker in the middle of the Mississippi State offensive line this season. Overall, he had an impressive game against Auburn as Bulldogs quarterback Nick Fitzgerald had a lot of success running behind Jenkins.
At the point of attack, Jenkins is quick to the second level and does a nice job of beating defenders to a spot to wall them off. He is quick, agile, and athletic on the inside with the ability to fire to the second level. Jenkins is very effective at double-team combo blocks with guards and is reliable to get gaps open with his double-team skills. In pass protection, Jenkins has a good anchor with the size to handle bull rushes. He may not grade out as a first-round pick, but he could be a good second-day selection who is a plug-and-play starter in the NFL.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Jenkins checks in at 6-foot-4, 304 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 5.05 seconds. His arms measure at 34.25 inches, his hands at 10.13 inches, and his wing span at 83.38 inches.
Jenkins is a athletic and quick interior blocker who has been very impressive for the Bulldogs over the past two seasons. Sources who have done some advance work for the 2019 NFL Draft say that Jenkins has impressed them and possesses early-round potential. Jenkins has good size to be a starting center in the NFL, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the change in offense under the new Mississippi State coaching staff.

wow tyvm for taking the time to post that. Idk anything about oline play but i do know i dont want a guy who has problems with speed rushers and i question drafting a guard or center uner 300 lbs, i want big nasty olineman that always mover forward not backwards and sideways like our guys do, we have to win at the point of attack and barkley will put this team on his back.

[mikethenygfan]

Oct 16, 2018 15:56:54 GMT -5 Blue Hulk said:

Oct 16, 2018 13:08:18 GMT -5 Parademon1 said:

Should we not need a QB next yr either because Lauletta won the job or we signed a FA QB, then DG should draft Any of those 4 guys #1 & #2. IMO, th right side of the OL has to be taken care of in 2019. Yrs of OL neglect has killed this team.

You think that DG should draft guys slated to go in the 3rd round in the first round?


Look at their draft projections. Unless someone has round 1 and only round 1 as their projection, then I guarantee they will go later. The only legit first rounder is injured......

If any of those guys goes in the top 20, I'd be surprised unless they had a great combine.

guys move up the board every year the closer you get to the draft so well see where they all stand when were closer to the draft. Btw i have no idea if they are good or not but i sure as hell hope we get a couple good ones

[cruzsoldier]

Oct 15, 2018 17:38:21 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

What olineman will be free agents next year? Who should we target? Would you say center or guard is a bigger need? We need a center a guard and a tackle unless wheeler shows significant improvement. I think we should draft a LT to play rt for a couple years then move him to LT when solder is done. Hoping for a quality starting guard and center in free agency. Also we need to draft some depth.

Ali Marpet position C/RG Tampa Bay Buccaneers he’s a pro bowl center and an above average RG he’s also a native New Yorker.

Jujuan James RT Miami Dolphins he’s above average in run and pass blocking.

These guys both pass the eye test. No matter how bad Solder and Omameh play we are stuck with them at least another season.

[TCHOF]

Oct 16, 2018 15:56:54 GMT -5 Blue Hulk said:

Oct 16, 2018 13:08:18 GMT -5 Parademon1 said:

Should we not need a QB next yr either because Lauletta won the job or we signed a FA QB, then DG should draft Any of those 4 guys #1 & #2. IMO, th right side of the OL has to be taken care of in 2019. Yrs of OL neglect has killed this team.

You think that DG should draft guys slated to go in the 3rd round in the first round?


Look at their draft projections. Unless someone has round 1 and only round 1 as their projection, then I guarantee they will go later. The only legit first rounder is injured......

If any of those guys goes in the top 20, I'd be surprised unless they had a great combine.

Looks like a weak OT and QB class ... great timing

[TCHOF]

Oct 16, 2018 17:26:21 GMT -5 cruzsoldier said:

Oct 15, 2018 17:38:21 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

What olineman will be free agents next year? Who should we target? Would you say center or guard is a bigger need? We need a center a guard and a tackle unless wheeler shows significant improvement. I think we should draft a LT to play rt for a couple years then move him to LT when solder is done. Hoping for a quality starting guard and center in free agency. Also we need to draft some depth.

Ali Marpet position C/RG Tampa Bay Buccaneers he’s a pro bowl center and an above average RG he’s also a native New Yorker.

Jujuan James RT Miami Dolphins he’s above average in run and pass blocking.

These guys both pass the eye test. No matter how bad Solder and Omameh play we are stuck with them at least another season.

Didn’t Marpet just sign an extension?

[mikethenygfan]

Oct 16, 2018 17:26:21 GMT -5 cruzsoldier said:

Oct 15, 2018 17:38:21 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

What olineman will be free agents next year? Who should we target? Would you say center or guard is a bigger need? We need a center a guard and a tackle unless wheeler shows significant improvement. I think we should draft a LT to play rt for a couple years then move him to LT when solder is done. Hoping for a quality starting guard and center in free agency. Also we need to draft some depth.

Ali Marpet position C/RG Tampa Bay Buccaneers he’s a pro bowl center and an above average RG he’s also a native New Yorker.

Jujuan James RT Miami Dolphins he’s above average in run and pass blocking.

These guys both pass the eye test. No matter how bad Solder and Omameh play we are stuck with them at least another season.

i would think both those guys are no brainers to go after. I know we are stuck with solder for a while which im not to mad about, i think hell be just fine. Are we really stuck with omameh? Whats the dead money if we cut him?

[cruzsoldier]

Well you can forget Marpet he just signed a new deal last week 5yrs 55 million

[cruzsoldier]

Oct 16, 2018 17:33:22 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

Oct 16, 2018 17:26:21 GMT -5 cruzsoldier said:

Ali Marpet position C/RG Tampa Bay Buccaneers he’s a pro bowl center and an above average RG he’s also a native New Yorker.

Jujuan James RT Miami Dolphins he’s above average in run and pass blocking.

These guys both pass the eye test. No matter how bad Solder and Omameh play we are stuck with them at least another season.

i would think both those guys are no brainers to go after. I know we are stuck with solder for a while which im not to mad about, i think hell be just fine. Are we really stuck with omameh? Whats the dead money if we cut him?

It’s 7.65 million so your stuck with him at least 1 more year after that I think it’s 1.3 mil.

[cruzsoldier]

Oct 16, 2018 17:33:22 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

Oct 16, 2018 17:26:21 GMT -5 cruzsoldier said:

Ali Marpet position C/RG Tampa Bay Buccaneers he’s a pro bowl center and an above average RG he’s also a native New Yorker.

Jujuan James RT Miami Dolphins he’s above average in run and pass blocking.

These guys both pass the eye test. No matter how bad Solder and Omameh play we are stuck with them at least another season.

i would think both those guys are no brainers to go after. I know we are stuck with solder for a while which im not to mad about, i think hell be just fine. Are we really stuck with omameh? Whats the dead money if we cut him?

Not really Solder after next year can be cut he has no more guaranteed money only 2018+2019 salaries & signing bonus. If cut he would have averaged 17.5 million per. I think if he continues to play poorly you just cut your losses.

[mikethenygfan]

Oct 16, 2018 17:38:36 GMT -5 cruzsoldier said:

Oct 16, 2018 17:33:22 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

i would think both those guys are no brainers to go after. I know we are stuck with solder for a while which im not to mad about, i think hell be just fine. Are we really stuck with omameh? Whats the dead money if we cut him?

It’s 7.65 million so your stuck with him at least 1 more year after that I think it’s 1.3 mil.

wow thats rough

[Blue Hulk]

We could have drafted Marpet


easily

[giantfromtheoz]

Lets just assume #1 pick is a QB.

Rounds 2-4 prosects will probably have:

Benzchawel from Wisconsin. Good run blocker, needs to work on his pass protection a bit but thats a leverage thing not a strength thing. Right Guard for sure.

Jawaan Taylor from Florida. Big, strong and athletic. But if you want a guy who can play RT for 2 years and then switch to LT, he's not the guy. I also think he's go alright as a guard.

Ross Pierchbacher from Bama. Guard an Centre, equally as good in either. Probably a third rounder. Again, more of a run blocking guy which I believe is the harder thing to teach a prospect. I rate this guy a lot, very underrated.


McNeil from Louisville and Gray from Maryland go alright as guards apparently. Haven't seen to much so no judgement.

Trey Adams is a chance to fall and he's the best tackle prospect. "Injury prone" at times. I'd even let him redshirt his first season if it meant just having him on the roster healthy for the future.

Williams, Little, Risner are first rounders likely.

[Kase1]

Oct 16, 2018 17:09:43 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

Oct 16, 2018 13:01:06 GMT -5 Kase1 said:

Not too sure about free agents but there are some good prospects in the draft, a few of my favorites are

Jonah Williams*, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-4. Weight: 297.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Williams has played well for Alabama but has not faced a good edge rusher yet. He is a smart blocker who is steady and reliable. Team sources say they are projecting Williams to right tackle or guard and think he would only be an emergency left tackle who could finish out a game because he's smart, but teams wouldn't want him to start at left tackle.
According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Williams checks in at 6-foot-4, 297 pounds and is said to run a fast 40 at 5.10 seconds. Measurement data has him with 33.63-inch arms, 9.13-inch hands, and an 81.25-inch wing span.
Williams was a freshman starter at right tackle for Alabama in 2016 and did a nice job of opening holes in the ground game. He took over as the starting left tackle with Cam Robinson moving on to the NFL, and Williams played well on the blind side in 2017. He is an intelligent blocker who has the versatility to be effective in the run game and in pass protection. He has size, flexibility and mobility.
One AFC scout for National said he had Williams graded on the second day of the 2019 NFL Draft entering the 2018 season. They thought he may have to play at right tackle or guard in the NFL, but they said that Williams is very smart and reliable. With a good year, he could be a late first-round candidate given the need at the position across the league.

Dalton Risner, OT/C, Kansas State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2019): 3-4.
10/13/18: Risner is playing right tackle for Kansas State, but he could be a better fit at center in the NFL because he has problems with speed rushers off the edge. That was given proof against Mississippi State as Montez Sweat gave Risner a lot of problems.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Risner checks in at 6-foot-4, 297 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 5.30 seconds. Measurement data has him with 33.75-inch arms, 10.5-inch hands, and an 81.75-inch wing span.
Risner started out his collegiate career well at the center position. After performing well on the inside of the line, the Kansas State coaches moved Risner to right tackle, and he performed well on the edge. Risner has been a reliable blocker for the Wildcats. For the NFL, moving back to center could be his best fit.

Tyler Biadasz**, C, Wisconsin
Height: 6-3. Weight: 316.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Biadasz has played well for Wisconsin, opening a lot of holes at the point of attack.
8/28/18: After redshirting in 2016, Biadasz broke into the starting lineup last season and performed very well for the Badgers. Biadasz was a tough run blocker who helped open a lot of holes for Jonathan Taylor. Biadasz could be even better in 2018 and 2019 after gaining experience.

Michael Jordan*, C/G, Ohio State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 312.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2019): 2-3.
10/13/18: Jordan has moved to center this season, and he has played well there in the early going while not often being tested by good talent. If Jordan proves to be a good starter at center this season, that will really improve his value for the NFL and could push his draft grade up. In speaking with sources, they see Jordan as a potential second-day pick. However, some scouts who have been through Ohio State tell me that they think Jordan is unlikely to enter the 2019 NFL Draft.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Jordan checks in at 6-foot-6, 312 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in 5.20 seconds. His arms measure at 34.63 inches, his hands at 10.25 inches, and his wing span at 84 inches. He has excellent size and length for guard, and his measureables would fit as a tackle.
Jordan broke into the starting lineup as a freshman at guard and showed improvement in 2017 as a sophomore. Jordan should keep up the recent tradition of early-round interior line prospects from Ohio State. He has good size to go with strength and athleticism. After gaining experience and developing, Jordan could dominate as a junior and senior to become an early-round pick in his draft class.

Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
10/13/18: Jenkins has been a steady blocker in the middle of the Mississippi State offensive line this season. Overall, he had an impressive game against Auburn as Bulldogs quarterback Nick Fitzgerald had a lot of success running behind Jenkins.
At the point of attack, Jenkins is quick to the second level and does a nice job of beating defenders to a spot to wall them off. He is quick, agile, and athletic on the inside with the ability to fire to the second level. Jenkins is very effective at double-team combo blocks with guards and is reliable to get gaps open with his double-team skills. In pass protection, Jenkins has a good anchor with the size to handle bull rushes. He may not grade out as a first-round pick, but he could be a good second-day selection who is a plug-and-play starter in the NFL.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Jenkins checks in at 6-foot-4, 304 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 5.05 seconds. His arms measure at 34.25 inches, his hands at 10.13 inches, and his wing span at 83.38 inches.
Jenkins is a athletic and quick interior blocker who has been very impressive for the Bulldogs over the past two seasons. Sources who have done some advance work for the 2019 NFL Draft say that Jenkins has impressed them and possesses early-round potential. Jenkins has good size to be a starting center in the NFL, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the change in offense under the new Mississippi State coaching staff.

wow tyvm for taking the time to post that. Idk anything about oline play but i do know i dont want a guy who has problems with speed rushers and i question drafting a guard or center uner 300 lbs, i want big nasty olineman that always mover forward not backwards and sideways like our guys do, we have to win at the point of attack and barkley will put this team on his back.

LOL, i appreciate it, but it wasnt much work, just copying and pasting the analysis from walterfootball.com on my fav OL prospects.  The toughest thing was figuring out who my favs were.

Other than Elgin Jenkins all of these guys are mean and nasty and play to the whistle and sometimes THROUGH the whistle.  Jenkins looks good but he doesnt have that mean attitude from what i can see, he blocks his guys and does well but he doesnt beat up his opponent. It may not mean alot but i want my OL who WANT to beat the crap out of their opponent, not just neutralize them even though both produce the same results

[giantfromtheoz]

Oct 17, 2018 11:06:24 GMT -5 Kase1 said:

Oct 16, 2018 17:09:43 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

wow tyvm for taking the time to post that. Idk anything about oline play but i do know i dont want a guy who has problems with speed rushers and i question drafting a guard or center uner 300 lbs, i want big nasty olineman that always mover forward not backwards and sideways like our guys do, we have to win at the point of attack and barkley will put this team on his back.

LOL, i appreciate it, but it wasnt much work, just copying and pasting the analysis from walterfootball.com on my fav OL prospects.  The toughest thing was figuring out who my favs were.

Other than Elgin Jenkins all of these guys are mean and nasty and play to the whistle and sometimes THROUGH the whistle.  Jenkins looks good but he doesnt have that mean attitude from what i can see, he blocks his guys and does well but he doesnt beat up his opponent. It may not mean alot but i want my OL who WANT to beat the crap out of their opponent, not just neutralize them even though both produce the same results

Agree on Jenkins. A bit of a Richburg in that he's not a fighter. Hernandez is nasty and we can build around that. The interior 3 should make the interior defense wish they were playing volleyball by the end of the game. I like Benzchawel from Wisconsin and Pierchbacher from Bama as right guard and centre. Biadasz is good too but he'll probably return.

Right tackle could be sorted in free agency between Williams from Carolina (likely with the DG connection), Juwaun James and Trent Brown if the Pats let him hit. These guys are all quality right tackles.

[Kase1]

Oct 18, 2018 3:57:39 GMT -5 giantfromtheoz said:

Oct 17, 2018 11:06:24 GMT -5 Kase1 said:

LOL, i appreciate it, but it wasnt much work, just copying and pasting the analysis from walterfootball.com on my fav OL prospects.  The toughest thing was figuring out who my favs were.

Other than Elgin Jenkins all of these guys are mean and nasty and play to the whistle and sometimes THROUGH the whistle.  Jenkins looks good but he doesnt have that mean attitude from what i can see, he blocks his guys and does well but he doesnt beat up his opponent. It may not mean alot but i want my OL who WANT to beat the crap out of their opponent, not just neutralize them even though both produce the same results

Agree on Jenkins. A bit of a Richburg in that he's not a fighter. Hernandez is nasty and we can build around that. The interior 3 should make the interior defense wish they were playing volleyball by the end of the game. I like Benzchawel from Wisconsin and Pierchbacher from Bama as right guard and centre. Biadasz is good too but he'll probably return.

Right tackle could be sorted in free agency between Williams from Carolina (likely with the DG connection), Juwaun James and Trent Brown if the Pats let him hit. These guys are all quality right tackles.

LOL, thats EXACTLY what i thought when watching tape on Jenkins.  He's a technician, not a brawler. Ben and Piersbacher are both OK, but Ben doesnt seem as consistent as Biadasz or even Dieter then again he's an OL from wisconsin how bad could he be, thats like OL U.  As for Piersbacher, he's a great run blocker but leaves ALOT to be desired in pass pro

Too bad Alex Bars from Notre Dame is out for the year with a torn mcl or was it acl, i was really starting to warm up to him

I could see us making a run at Juwan James or maybe even Bobby Massie from Chicago.  Not too familiar with Williams and i see little to no chance of the pats letting Brown walk.  Then again there is some decent talent at RT this year in the draft like Jonah Williams from Bama, Dalton Risner from Kansas st, Yodny Cajuste from WVU, or Trey Adams from Wash

I can see us throwing some money at free agent defensive backs this offseason as well

[Kase1]

Oct 16, 2018 15:29:54 GMT -5 Blue Hulk said:

Hey Kase1....Those guys aren't very good and won't be going first round. This a crappy OL class.

Its not a great OL class when i only have like 3 or 4 guys i like.  Jonah Williams and Michael Jordan will go in the 1st and im sure someone will draft a 'jpp of ol' and have them bust like they always do, as long as its not us, LOL.

GREAT year for DL, too bad we drafted 2 last season, SMH.  

[giantfromtheoz]

Oct 18, 2018 13:03:29 GMT -5 Kase1 said:

Oct 18, 2018 3:57:39 GMT -5 giantfromtheoz said:

Agree on Jenkins. A bit of a Richburg in that he's not a fighter. Hernandez is nasty and we can build around that. The interior 3 should make the interior defense wish they were playing volleyball by the end of the game. I like Benzchawel from Wisconsin and Pierchbacher from Bama as right guard and centre. Biadasz is good too but he'll probably return.

Right tackle could be sorted in free agency between Williams from Carolina (likely with the DG connection), Juwaun James and Trent Brown if the Pats let him hit. These guys are all quality right tackles.

LOL, thats EXACTLY what i thought when watching tape on Jenkins.  He's a technician, not a brawler. Ben and Piersbacher are both OK, but Ben doesnt seem as consistent as Biadasz or even Dieter then again he's an OL from wisconsin how bad could he be, thats like OL U.  As for Piersbacher, he's a great run blocker but leaves ALOT to be desired in pass pro

Too bad Alex Bars from Notre Dame is out for the year with a torn mcl or was it acl, i was really starting to warm up to him

I could see us making a run at Juwan James or maybe even Bobby Massie from Chicago.  Not too familiar with Williams and i see little to no chance of the pats letting Brown walk.  Then again there is some decent talent at RT this year in the draft like Jonah Williams from Bama, Dalton Risner from Kansas st, Yodny Cajuste from WVU, or Trey Adams from Wash

I can see us throwing some money at free agent defensive backs this offseason as well

Yep. Yeah Benz and Pierchbacher are both great run blockers. Their pass pro is more of a technique issue than a strength issue, i think it's correctable. These picks are like rounds 2-4 picks.

Yeah shame about Bars, he was always underrated because of Nelson and McGlinchey taking the spotlight but was really solid.

True about the right tackles. It's a solid o-line class, plenty of talent. Not many finishing products though which is why the coaching of our o-lineman needs to improve.

[Kase1]

Oct 18, 2018 15:26:19 GMT -5 giantfromtheoz said:

Oct 18, 2018 13:03:29 GMT -5 Kase1 said:

LOL, thats EXACTLY what i thought when watching tape on Jenkins.  He's a technician, not a brawler. Ben and Piersbacher are both OK, but Ben doesnt seem as consistent as Biadasz or even Dieter then again he's an OL from wisconsin how bad could he be, thats like OL U.  As for Piersbacher, he's a great run blocker but leaves ALOT to be desired in pass pro

Too bad Alex Bars from Notre Dame is out for the year with a torn mcl or was it acl, i was really starting to warm up to him

I could see us making a run at Juwan James or maybe even Bobby Massie from Chicago.  Not too familiar with Williams and i see little to no chance of the pats letting Brown walk.  Then again there is some decent talent at RT this year in the draft like Jonah Williams from Bama, Dalton Risner from Kansas st, Yodny Cajuste from WVU, or Trey Adams from Wash

I can see us throwing some money at free agent defensive backs this offseason as well

Yep. Yeah Benz and Pierchbacher are both great run blockers. Their pass pro is more of a technique issue than a strength issue, i think it's correctable. These picks are like rounds 2-4 picks.

Yeah shame about Bars, he was always underrated because of Nelson and McGlinchey taking the spotlight but was really solid.

True about the right tackles. It's a solid o-line class, plenty of talent. Not many finishing products though which is why the coaching of our o-lineman needs to improve.

LOL i wouldnt go so far as to say there is plenty of talent.  There is maybe a handful of OL prospects id want on the Giants; jonah williams from bama, michael jordan from osu, dalton risner from kansas st, alex bars from notre dame,tyler biadasz from wisconsin, trey adams from wash, MAYBE andre dillard from wash st, MAYBE ross piersbacher from bama

not many....

[snyder55]

Oct 16, 2018 13:08:18 GMT -5 Parademon1 said:

Should we not need a QB next yr either because Lauletta won the job or we signed a FA QB, then DG should draft Any of those 4 guys #1 & #2. IMO, th right side of the OL has to be taken care of in 2019. Yrs of OL neglect has killed this team.

I don't know what our QB situation will be next season but I feel strongly we cannot continue this Eli situation any longer so if the team decided to go for a free agent QB veteran and start fixing the O line from round 1 on that might be a good way to go, which ever way the team decides we have to have a mobile QB.