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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 26, 2024 9:02:42 GMT -5
“Under the new rule, 10 players on the kicking team and at least nine players on the receiving team will line up just five yards apart and won’t begin running until the ball gets back to the returner, meaning players won’t be going full speed when they crash into each other, which caused so many injuries on kickoffs in years past. Of the 22 players on the field, only the kicker and one or two kickoff returners will line up separately from those players who are five yards apart.”
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Post by GameTime on Mar 26, 2024 9:11:05 GMT -5
hmmm
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Post by Zimonami on Mar 26, 2024 9:12:41 GMT -5
Strange seeing the kicker back there all by his lonesome. If the returner breaks past the initial D line it will put that kicker out on an island all by himself as the last hope to tackle the returner... Hahahahaha... should lead to some very embarrassed kickers. Might lead to some changed priorities for selecting kickers. "Yeah, we know you've got a leg... but, can you make an open field tackle?"
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 26, 2024 9:15:26 GMT -5
Strange seeing the kicker back there all by his lonesome. If the returner breaks past the initial D line it will put that kicker out on an island all by himself as the last hope to tackle the returner... Hahahahaha... should lead to some very embarrassed kickers. Might lead to some changed priorities for selecting kickers. "Yeah, we know you've got a leg... but, can you make an open field tackle?" Wonder if teams will use a real player to kick the ball being it’s not very far to kick. Why waste the kicker spot to defend? |
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Post by inthezone on Mar 26, 2024 9:15:41 GMT -5
How easy will onsides kicks be if everyone but the kicker is past the 10 yards!
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 26, 2024 9:17:01 GMT -5
How easy will onsides kicks be if everyone but the kicker is past the 10 yards! goes back to the old rules for the onside kick. Must tell opponent you plan on an onside kick, can only be in the 4th qtr and must be trailing. |
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Post by inthezone on Mar 26, 2024 9:18:39 GMT -5
How easy will onsides kicks be if everyone but the kicker is past the 10 yards! goes back to the old rules for the onside kick. Must tell opponent you plan on an onside kick, can only be in the 4th qtr and must be trailing. I still thought it was a funny response and did expect something along the lines of this be in the rules. |
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Post by sickntired on Mar 26, 2024 9:22:36 GMT -5
More bastardizing.
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Post by Zimonami on Mar 26, 2024 9:24:17 GMT -5
How easy will onsides kicks be if everyone but the kicker is past the 10 yards! goes back to the old rules for the onside kick. Must tell opponent you plan on an onside kick, can only be in the 4th qtr and must be trailing. So, you tell refs you're going to attempt an onside kick... do the O and D lines move back to the old standard lineup? Or, keep the new alinement and 21 men turn around and run madly after the ball while the closest person, the kicker, is praying to God that he can reach it first and fall on it? |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 26, 2024 9:26:52 GMT -5
Just eliminate kick offs already.
This is idiotic.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 26, 2024 9:27:33 GMT -5
goes back to the old rules for the onside kick. Must tell opponent you plan on an onside kick, can only be in the 4th qtr and must be trailing. So, you tell refs you're going to attempt an onside kick... do the O and D lines move back to the old standard lineup? Or, keep the new alinement and 21 men turn around and run madly after the ball while the closest person, the kicker, is praying to God that he can reach it first and fall on it? I guess no more surprise onside kicks. |
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Post by ratbastich on Mar 26, 2024 9:29:57 GMT -5
At this point, they probably just need to get rid of the kick-off. Kickers can still make their money off of extra points and the 3. Didn't the first version of the XFL have a scrum like scramble to fill in for kick-offs originally?
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Post by ocgiant on Mar 26, 2024 13:18:53 GMT -5
Refs, fans will watch how lame the onside becomes this season and adjust it for 2025 season or just get rid of it altogether.
Kickers will now need to be part of tackleing drills in practice, not too worried about them performing a hip drop tackle in a game though.
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 26, 2024 13:40:26 GMT -5
Yawn.
Other than old man complaining, I really couldn’t care less what they do with kickoffs.
I’d prefer they leave it unchanged, but whatever. Just get the draft and training camp here ASAP. All the rest of this hip drop kickoff BS is just passing time.
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Post by DJones19 on Mar 26, 2024 13:48:39 GMT -5
Sounds like it will be a play again and not just a good time to fill up a beer glass.
Good work by the NFL.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 26, 2024 14:10:42 GMT -5
That looks crazy... Oddly enough, I don't hate it.
One missed tackle could lead to a TD return.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 26, 2024 15:16:59 GMT -5
pretty much anything beats what we've seen the last few years where 75% of them are simply fair caught...
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Post by scoostraw on Mar 26, 2024 16:29:52 GMT -5
I guess no more surprise onside kicks. Right. |
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Post by Roswell on Mar 26, 2024 17:06:02 GMT -5
If they really want to make the game safer, they need to eliminate the kickoff altogether.
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Post by TEM on Mar 26, 2024 18:15:09 GMT -5
I am not a fan of this move.
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Post by Martin on Mar 27, 2024 8:39:21 GMT -5
Strange seeing the kicker back there all by his lonesome. If the returner breaks past the initial D line it will put that kicker out on an island all by himself as the last hope to tackle the returner... Hahahahaha... should lead to some very embarrassed kickers. Might lead to some changed priorities for selecting kickers. "Yeah, we know you've got a leg... but, can you make an open field tackle?" Wonder if teams will use a real player to kick the ball being it’s not very far to kick. Why waste the kicker spot to defend? Pat McAfee was talking about this exact scenario. Use a player who can kick but be a good defender. The rule forces the returner to run it when it's kicked in the target zone. Crazy stuff. I would rather see a possible exciting play than nothing. I'm trying to keep an open mind. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 27, 2024 9:10:43 GMT -5
Wonder if teams will use a real player to kick the ball being it’s not very far to kick. Why waste the kicker spot to defend? Pat McAfee was talking about this exact scenario. Use a player who can kick but be a good defender. The rule forces the returner to run it when it's kicked in the target zone. Crazy stuff. I would rather see a possible exciting play than nothing. I'm trying to keep an open mind. thinking, you could literally kick a line drive and hope it ricochet off somebody on the front wall for a free ball. |
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Post by Martin on Mar 27, 2024 9:18:36 GMT -5
Pat McAfee was talking about this exact scenario. Use a player who can kick but be a good defender. The rule forces the returner to run it when it's kicked in the target zone. Crazy stuff. I would rather see a possible exciting play than nothing. I'm trying to keep an open mind. thinking, you could literally kick a line drive and hope it ricochet off somebody on the front wall for a free ball. Not to worry they'll probably outlaw that one! But I like it 👌 |
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Post by grayphoenix on Mar 27, 2024 10:36:35 GMT -5
Might as well try it - kickoffs are almost a complete waste of time right now. The effect on onside kicks will be unfortunate but the tradeoff could well be worth it.
They should eliminate the extra point too while they're at it. 94% success rate, and with 2-pt conversions approaching 50% success rate it's becoming mathematically inefficient to even kick it unless the current scores and time left in a game dictate that 1 pt is as good as 2. Just give teams the point if they want it or let them opt for the 2-pt attempt instead.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 28, 2024 13:43:48 GMT -5
That looks crazy... Oddly enough, I don't hate it. One missed tackle could lead to a TD return. They did it in eh USFL last year that league opens play Saturday if you want to see it live lookup a game think it is now the USXFL or something because they combined with the XFL. Its interesting I watched some of the games from those leagues the Kickoff was a play that guys had to be on their game and defeat blocks or it could be a problem. |
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Post by McCherry on Mar 28, 2024 13:49:23 GMT -5
That looks crazy... Oddly enough, I don't hate it. One missed tackle could lead to a TD return. They did it in eh USFL last year that league opens play Saturday if you want to see it live lookup a game think it is now the USXFL or something because they combined with the XFL. Its interesting I watched some of the games from those leagues the Kickoff was a play that guys had to be on their game and defeat blocks or it could be a problem. Right, that's what I like about it. It bring some juice back to the KO. It does what the NFL wants in protecting players, but looks like it gives opportunitues for more returns. ST's needs to be on it's game. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 28, 2024 13:54:32 GMT -5
They did it in eh USFL last year that league opens play Saturday if you want to see it live lookup a game think it is now the USXFL or something because they combined with the XFL. Its interesting I watched some of the games from those leagues the Kickoff was a play that guys had to be on their game and defeat blocks or it could be a problem. Right, that's what I like about it. It bring some juice back to the KO. It does what the NFL wants in protecting players, but looks like it gives opportunitues for more returns. ST's needs to be on it's game. Yea it's a real play not just high speed mayhem. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 28, 2024 13:59:44 GMT -5
lmbo
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Post by Nick6475 on Mar 28, 2024 14:14:00 GMT -5
They did it in eh USFL last year that league opens play Saturday if you want to see it live lookup a game think it is now the USXFL or something because they combined with the XFL. Its interesting I watched some of the games from those leagues the Kickoff was a play that guys had to be on their game and defeat blocks or it could be a problem. Right, that's what I like about it. It bring some juice back to the KO. It does what the NFL wants in protecting players, but looks like it gives opportunitues for more returns. ST's needs to be on it's game. From a pure fan perspective it sounds more fun to watch, but as a Giants fan it is going to be frustrating watching multiple returns for TDs every game. |
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