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Post by TEM on Mar 26, 2024 12:43:23 GMT -5
Pre-draft position group rankings
I have to say it is in this order. IMO:
D-line
ILB
OLB
Kicker /Punter / Returner/ long Snapper
QB
TE
Corner
WR
O-line
RB
Safety
We need a lot of help in the draft.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 26, 2024 12:44:58 GMT -5
The fans
Nothing is a strength. Maybe the pass rush yet we have a new DC so who knows?
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Post by te88 on Mar 26, 2024 12:58:36 GMT -5
Front 4. By a lot.
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 26, 2024 23:04:15 GMT -5
5 of the Giants 6 best players are on defense (Dex, Thibs, Burns, Okereke, and Banks...along with AT).
After that...this roster sucks.
The next best player wants to retire. No 1,000 yard receivers or RBs, the safeties are really bad, no DT depth, the RT likely won't finish the season, and a QB mocked by the rest of the NFL for his contract and sack-taking ability.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 27, 2024 6:18:38 GMT -5
i'm just gonna say the D lmao........
I just hope we live up to what's currently on paper.....
is Beavers still on the team?
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Post by hadenough on Mar 27, 2024 6:30:32 GMT -5
5 of the Giants 6 best players are on defense (Dex, Thibs, Burns, Okereke, and Banks...along with AT). After that...this roster sucks. The next best player wants to retire. No 1,000 yard receivers or RBs, the safeties are really bad, no DT depth, the RT likely won't finish the season, and a QB mocked by the rest of the NFL for his contract and sack-taking ability. I agree…on paper, this isn’t looking great. They are gonna be relying on 3 draft picks to produce at a high level. What are the chances the Giants actually draft well?? |
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 27, 2024 11:21:18 GMT -5
Who the hell picked quarterback.. You not only missed the boat.. You didn’t even hit water.. We have less than nothing at the most important position on the field. Knock it down a few hundred pegs.. And then maybe after the draft it can work its way up to being pathetic.
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Post by Martin on Mar 27, 2024 11:38:45 GMT -5
Pre-draft position group rankings I have to say it is in this order. IMO: D-line ILB OLB Kicker /Punter / Returner/ long Snapper QB TE Corner WR O-line RB Safety We need a lot of help in the draft.We need Houdini  |
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Post by vinnie on Mar 27, 2024 13:42:17 GMT -5
The fans Nothing is a strength. Maybe the pass rush yet we have a new DC so who knows? Yeah, I’ve been thinking about this poll since he posted it and I can’t think of one “group” that is a strength and/or that much better than the other. We have a few really good players scattered around but not as a group. *I guess if Thibs steps it up and Burns plays as good as what Schoen paid him for then I would say D line but just like the O line, until we see it, that is nothing but speculation. |
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Post by vinnie on Mar 27, 2024 13:46:00 GMT -5
Who the hell picked quarterback.. You not only missed the boat.. You didn’t even hit water.. We have less than nothing at the most important position on the field. Knock it down a few hundred pegs.. And then maybe after the draft it can work its way up to being pathetic. I’ll give you 3 guesses to pick all 3 people who said yes and I’m quite sure you and the rest of the board would nail it. |
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Post by DJones19 on Mar 27, 2024 13:56:42 GMT -5
A lot of people aren't sold on Thibs. Personally I think he can be a starter for years but I don't see him close to the Umenyiora or Strahan level.
Burns is getting the excuse from fans that he can't exceed 10 sacks because his old team is bad. That excuse sounds similar to what people make for Jones.
I like Dexter Lawrence, I'm not that eccentric Gitans fan on Youtube that talks trash about Lawrence a lot and calls DTs replaceable.
But right now I see tons of capital in terms of $$$ and draft capital tied up at QB this year.
On paper the QB position is stacked. Lock and Jones - two QBs in their prime - two top 3 QBs in the entire 2019 draft class.
Lock was a 4-5 star recruit - and Jones won a playoff game in spectacular fashion and years before that humbled LT's and Michael Jordan's alma matter, UNC...down the road from Duke.
So we got two top of the draft QBs on the team already - not quite ready to replace one of them with the 5th best QB coming out of college this year.
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Post by Roswell on Mar 27, 2024 14:00:28 GMT -5
I think their Dline has a chance to be the best in their division.
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Post by inthezone on Mar 27, 2024 14:03:17 GMT -5
I think their Dline has a chance to be the best in their division. It's going to need to be! The secondary is scary at this time so I hope a quality safety and CB2 is found in this draft somehow. |
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Post by idkaname on Mar 27, 2024 14:46:18 GMT -5
Who the hell picked quarterback.. You not only missed the boat.. You didn’t even hit water.. We have less than nothing at the most important position on the field. Knock it down a few hundred pegs.. And then maybe after the draft it can work its way up to being pathetic. I’ll give you 3 guesses to pick all 3 people who said yes and I’m quite sure you and the rest of the board would nail it. You Moorehead Danke Schoen InconvieneTruth it's 3/4 of these posters that chose QB |
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Post by Nite on Mar 27, 2024 14:50:11 GMT -5
Beverage Management
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 27, 2024 14:53:41 GMT -5
I’ll give you 3 guesses to pick all 3 people who said yes and I’m quite sure you and the rest of the board would nail it. You Moorehead Danke Schoen InconvieneTruth it's 3/4 of these posters that chose QB where's DJones19 lol..........  |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 27, 2024 14:54:47 GMT -5
A lot of people aren't sold on Thibs. Personally I think he can be a starter for years but I don't see him close to the Umenyiora or Strahan level. Burns is getting the excuse from fans that he can't exceed 10 sacks because his old team is bad. That excuse sounds similar to what people make for Jones. I like Dexter Lawrence, I'm not that eccentric Gitans fan on Youtube that talks trash about Lawrence a lot and calls DTs replaceable. But right now I see tons of capital in terms of $$$ and draft capital tied up at QB this year. On paper the QB position is stacked. Lock and Jones - two QBs in their prime - two top 3 QBs in the entire 2019 draft class. Lock was a 4-5 star recruit - and Jones won a playoff game in spectacular fashion and years before that humbled LT's and Michael Jordan's alma matter, UNC...down the road from Duke. So we got two top of the draft QBs on the team already - not quite ready to replace one of them with the 5th best QB coming out of college this year. lock top of the draft? |
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Post by DJones19 on Mar 27, 2024 15:01:43 GMT -5
A lot of people aren't sold on Thibs. Personally I think he can be a starter for years but I don't see him close to the Umenyiora or Strahan level. Burns is getting the excuse from fans that he can't exceed 10 sacks because his old team is bad. That excuse sounds similar to what people make for Jones. I like Dexter Lawrence, I'm not that eccentric Gitans fan on Youtube that talks trash about Lawrence a lot and calls DTs replaceable. But right now I see tons of capital in terms of $$$ and draft capital tied up at QB this year. On paper the QB position is stacked. Lock and Jones - two QBs in their prime - two top 3 QBs in the entire 2019 draft class. Lock was a 4-5 star recruit - and Jones won a playoff game in spectacular fashion and years before that humbled LT's and Michael Jordan's alma matter, UNC...down the road from Duke. So we got two top of the draft QBs on the team already - not quite ready to replace one of them with the 5th best QB coming out of college this year. lock top of the draft? 3rd QB selected. 4 star recruit going into college, blue-chip QB This is a scouting report from Lock off nfl.com. Full-field reader with ability to scan and process quickly with a low sack total due to mobility and feel for edge pressure. Have we found our QB? Those are the exact weaknesses fans say Jones have. Analysis By Lance Zierlein NFL Analyst Draft Projection: Round 1 NFL Comparison: Matthew Stafford Strengths Prototypical combination of size and arm talent. Full-field reader with ability to scan and process with good quickness. Pocket movements are sudden and twitchy. Exceptionally quick ball-handler with sudden release. Throws with anticipation. Fearless and confident to make challenging throws down the field. Fires ropes through constricted seams and in cover-2 buckets. Uses eyes to move safeties. Rarely lingers on primary targets, preventing defenders from getting early jumps. Decent deep ball touch and accuracy and gives his receivers a chance. Low sack total due to mobility and feel for edge pressure. Maintains field vision when he's on the move. Completion total hurt by excessive drops from top targets over last two years. Overview Full-field reader offering prototypical size and arm talent, but one that has a concerning lack of accuracy and consistency against top opponents. Inside of each game, Lock makes reads and throws that are worthy of an early pick. There will also be plays in the same game that highlight his random inaccuracy and issues defeating pocket pressure. He has as much pure talent as any quarterback from the 2018 draft, but he won't reach that lofty potential unless he improves his accuracy and learns to play with better in-game presence. |
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Post by McCherry on Mar 27, 2024 16:44:59 GMT -5
I think their Dline has a chance to be the best in their division. I agree. This poll clearly illustrates how far ahead the DL is over the other units. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 27, 2024 17:58:24 GMT -5
I voted for the OLB group. Thibs, Burns, and Ojulari for depth. Should have a more than decent pass rush.
After Dex there is no DL whatsoever. After Okereke at ILB there is McFadden who showed flashes. Banks is the only player in the secondary that seems like a starting DB in the NFL.
The offense has nothing we can count on except AT. But not a single position group.
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Post by lt56 on Mar 27, 2024 18:42:39 GMT -5
agree with Defensive Line which is 99.9% because of Big Dex being one of the best in the NFL
don't have a strong stand out group of anything, I think this current Receiver group is Underrated though and can be good by adding one more guy and hopefully they can get some consistent out of the QB position for once
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 27, 2024 19:04:59 GMT -5
I voted for the OLB group. Thibs, Burns, and Ojulari for depth. Should have a more than decent pass rush. After Dex there is no DL whatsoever. After Okereke at ILB there is McFadden who showed flashes. Banks is the only player in the secondary that seems like a starting DB in the NFL. The offense has nothing we can count on except AT. But not a single position group. The edge rushers are the only position that bangs.. Ojulari before getting ravaged by injuries was a havoc for quarterbacks. Thibodeaux who was nothing but a snowflake his rookie season.. Became a blizzard for offenses.. And that leaves Brian Burns who made a living out of beating the ever living shit out of quarterbacks. Spare the tough talk.. Draft capital and major coin were invested into the position. Our defense will rely heavily on those guys feeding players to the earth.. |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 27, 2024 19:17:18 GMT -5
Our OL blocks like there are only 4 of them so I'll take the DL and say it's not even close. Do we even have OLBs on this team? |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 27, 2024 19:23:27 GMT -5
agree with Defensive Line which is 99.9% because of Big Dex being one of the best in the NFL don't have a strong stand out group of anything, I think this current Receiver group is Underrated though and can be good by adding one more guy and hopefully they can get some consistent out of the QB position for once We have a virtually uncoverable Slot WR, a ridiculously fast #2 that lead the league in average depth of target (ADOT) and Slayton who is no bum. We add a true #1 (any of the top 3 guys) and this WR group will be amazing.
Just to put that ADOT stat into perspective. He lead by 3.5 yards more than the #2 guy. From #2 to #11 it was only a 3.4 yard difference. If we add a WR and this OL blocks next year I don't care if Chris Simms is our QB we will score loads of points.
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Post by kingb50 on Mar 27, 2024 19:30:29 GMT -5
At this rate who can really be optimistic about what we have on paper. The D' looks like they can contain some teams, but as we all well know they get gassed when it really counts. Then it gets UGLY. We need a least 3 offensive stars in this draft, whether its OB, RB, TE OL or all the above and a half. There is no way, we can trot this offense on the field and expect to compete with the Filthy Beagles- Cow-paddies or the Demanders or whatever TF you call them!
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 27, 2024 20:37:26 GMT -5
Speaking about position groups.
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Post by SG88 on Mar 27, 2024 20:49:30 GMT -5
Who in the hell picked QB 😄
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 27, 2024 21:53:16 GMT -5
I think their Dline has a chance to be the best in their division.
On paper. No disrespect Ros, but on paper has meant very little for this team for the last 8 years.
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Post by kingb50 on Mar 27, 2024 21:56:55 GMT -5
It’s obviously the defensive front, in tell means we’re in an official rebuild, for the 10th time since in 5 years…
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Post by mendy on Mar 28, 2024 7:36:14 GMT -5
Speaking about position groups. Can't argue it at all! |
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