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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 28, 2024 15:57:14 GMT -5
If we can't get a top QB in the 1st round of the draft, it's a deep WR class we could get a good WR in the second round I'd get an offensive linemen or go defense may be linebacker in the first round.
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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 28, 2024 15:59:06 GMT -5
We can get a good WR at # 47
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 28, 2024 16:12:37 GMT -5
If we can't get a top QB in the 1st round of the draft, it's a deep WR class we could get a good WR in the second round I'd get an offensive linemen or go defense may be linebacker in the first round. If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired.
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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 28, 2024 16:14:26 GMT -5
If we can't get a top QB in the 1st round of the draft, it's a deep WR class we could get a good WR in the second round I'd get an offensive linemen or go defense may be linebacker in the first round. If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2024 16:14:38 GMT -5
If we can't get a top QB in the 1st round of the draft, it's a deep WR class we could get a good WR in the second round I'd get an offensive linemen or go defense may be linebacker in the first round. If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2024 16:15:13 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. why? We are weak at Linebacker At #6? Who would be a value at that spot?
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Post by fredfreddy on Mar 28, 2024 16:15:24 GMT -5
I am leaning more toward WR at 6 regardless. If they grab a QB I'd be fine with that but leaning WR. I would like to try to grab Taulia in the later rounds if we can so QB at 6 is not that important to me.
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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 28, 2024 16:20:29 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be. is Penix the answer or is he Jones 2.0 Id rather ride with the backup.
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Post by miggs on Mar 28, 2024 16:26:51 GMT -5
Giants have so many big-time holes to fill, and If Jones is healthy and the Giants are to have any chance of a winning record. drafting a QB in the first round would be downright stupid.But if he's not projected to be healthy, that's a different story.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 28, 2024 16:27:14 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. Well LB OR DE wouldn't make sense, especially since we got Burns, who is 1 of the top edge guys in the NFL. Across from Burns is Thibs, who is a young guy who looks like he has an extremely bright future ahead of him Sure, we could use another LB, but we have WAAAAAAAAY more pressing needs, like QB, WR, RB, OL, TE, IDL, CB, and Safety.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 28, 2024 16:29:58 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be. Honestly, if we don't take a QB at 6, I'm kind of curious about rocking with Drew Lock. As a fellow lefty, I am rooting for Penix to succeed more than most, but he only works with a team who has a solid set of bookend OTs. At this point in Andrew Thomas' career, I don't want to risk his future development by having him change positions
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 28, 2024 16:30:30 GMT -5
If we can't get a top QB in the 1st round of the draft, it's a deep WR class we could get a good WR in the second round I'd get an offensive linemen or go defense may be linebacker in the first round. I’m getting gun shy with OL in the first. No LB I see worthy of pick six. You are right however wide receiver class is fairly deep and a good one should be available well into the second round. I’d take Bowers in the first. It would be better to trade back a few spots and get an extra pick. Seems like Bowers is predicted to go between 10-13. Regardless he will be a great weapon for Lock at #6 ( I have zero confidence in Jones ) WR in the second. Legette may last until then but it’s looking less likely. Zak Zinter could be a steal in the 3rd. Reports are he is healing nicely and on schedule. Before his injury he was predicted to go to late first round to the mid second round. He has the potential to be the best guard we have had in years.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 28, 2024 16:33:33 GMT -5
If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be. Honestly, if we don't take a QB at 6, I'm kind of curious about rocking with Drew Lock. As a fellow lefty, I am rooting for Penix to succeed more than most, but he only works with a team who has a solid set of bookend OTs. At this point in Andrew Thomas' career, I don't want to risk his future development by having him change positions I’m with you on Lock and I like Penix.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 28, 2024 16:38:59 GMT -5
I am leaning more toward WR at 6 regardless. If they grab a QB I'd be fine with that but leaning WR. I would like to try to grab Taulia in the later rounds if we can so QB at 6 is not that important to me. If Taulia has protection he can be deadly. When pressure is on the way he makes some really dumb decisions. 5th or 6th round he’d be worth a shot.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 28, 2024 16:42:08 GMT -5
If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be. is Penix the answer or is he Jones 2.0 Id rather ride with the backup. Penix has much more composure, is more cerebral and more consistently accurate than DJ. So I would say no to Jones 2.0
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Post by GameTime on Mar 28, 2024 16:56:56 GMT -5
Giants have so many big-time holes to fill, and If Jones is healthy and the Giants are to have any chance of a winning record. drafting a QB in the first round would be downright stupid.But if he's not projected to be healthy, that's a different story. how do you "project" a player with an injury history to be healthy? You dont. At this point you expect Jones to get hurt at some point. With that in mind drafting his replacement would be actually be a smart thing to do if there is a QB they like at a given draft spot, If they are going to pick a QB in round it has nothing to do with Jones' health projection at all.
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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 28, 2024 16:57:33 GMT -5
Giants have so many big-time holes to fill, and If Jones is healthy and the Giants are to have any chance of a winning record. drafting a QB in the first round would be downright stupid.But if he's not projected to be healthy, that's a different story. jones is coming off a really serious injury one hit he could be done for. Bank on Lock being the week 1 Starter. I really don't think Penix is better then Lock or a healthy Jones. Like I said you can never have enough depth in the trenches. This guy in the podcast is good very knowledgeable he points out how really deep this WR class is.
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 28, 2024 17:03:06 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be. I still think there’s a chance JS moves up for a QB, but I think he’ll do it for a specific QB and not any of the top 4. And I don’t think that QB is JJ. Agree on WR. I don’t think the top 3 WR are magically interchangeable. And i think moving back is the highest probability outcome for our pick at 6.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Mar 28, 2024 17:20:53 GMT -5
If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be. I still think there’s a chance JS moves up for a QB, but I think he’ll do it for a specific QB and not any of the top 4. And I don’t think that QB is JJ.
Agree on WR. I don’t think the top 3 WR are magically interchangeable. And i think moving back is the highest probability outcome for our pick at 6. (Maye) - lets hope Pats dont like him.
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Post by miggs on Mar 28, 2024 17:23:31 GMT -5
Giants have so many big-time holes to fill, and If Jones is healthy and the Giants are to have any chance of a winning record. drafting a QB in the first round would be downright stupid.But if he's not projected to be healthy, that's a different story. how do you "project" a player with an injury history to be healthy? You dont. At this point you expect Jones to get hurt at some point. With that in mind drafting his replacement would be actually be a smart thing to do if there is a QB they like at a given draft spot, If they are going to pick a QB in round it has nothing to do with Jones' health projection at all. He's had an injury history because he hasn't had a line to protect him.Hopefully this year he will. If he recovers by training camp, injury, his slate is wiped clean.
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 28, 2024 17:35:23 GMT -5
I still think there’s a chance JS moves up for a QB, but I think he’ll do it for a specific QB and not any of the top 4. And I don’t think that QB is JJ.
Agree on WR. I don’t think the top 3 WR are magically interchangeable. And i think moving back is the highest probability outcome for our pick at 6. (Maye) - lets hope Pats dont like him. Without having talked to a scout, that’s the kind of thing that I think he fights the Vikings for at #4. The board really changes if JJ comes off at #2. If he doesn’t love the QBs left then he hopes a WR he likes falls to 6. If that doesn’t happen (especially if there’s an unexpected QB still on the board he doesn’t want), he’ll take the picks and move back. If he can get an extra 1st or get back into the really early part of the 2nd, I bet that’s hard to pass up with a deep draft. We have enough holes that extra picks this year help. Everyone talks about taking a QB this year because the pickings are slim next year. But if JS can get an extra 1st then trading for a QB becomes a lot more likely too.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 28, 2024 17:35:53 GMT -5
how do you "project" a player with an injury history to be healthy? You dont. At this point you expect Jones to get hurt at some point. With that in mind drafting his replacement would be actually be a smart thing to do if there is a QB they like at a given draft spot, If they are going to pick a QB in round it has nothing to do with Jones' health projection at all. He's had an injury history because he hasn't had a line to protect him.Hopefully this year he will. If he recovers by training camp, injury, his slate is wiped clean. wrong....He gets hurt regardless of the line. His first neck injury he lead with his head trying for extra yards. there is no wiping a slate clean after 5 full seasons and starting the 6th. I hope he comes out healthy and does great. History shows the opposite though. This team is still in a bad place overall. 2023 was 10 steps back.
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Post by vinnie on Mar 28, 2024 18:15:34 GMT -5
I still think there’s a chance JS moves up for a QB, but I think he’ll do it for a specific QB and not any of the top 4. And I don’t think that QB is JJ.
Agree on WR. I don’t think the top 3 WR are magically interchangeable. And i think moving back is the highest probability outcome for our pick at 6. (Maye) - lets hope Pats dont like him. I’m not a Maye fan at all, been wrong 1,000 times before though, but I find it very interesting that his high school coach (Josh McCown) is now the Vikings QB coach. I wonder if that factors into what they’ll do.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 28, 2024 18:19:23 GMT -5
Giants have so many big-time holes to fill, and If Jones is healthy and the Giants are to have any chance of a winning record. drafting a QB in the first round would be downright stupid.But if he's not projected to be healthy, that's a different story. jones is coming off a really serious injury one hit he could be done for. Bank on Lock being the week 1 Starter. I really don't think Penix is better then Lock or a healthy Jones. Like I said you can never have enough depth in the trenches. This guy in the podcast is good very knowledgeable he points out how really deep this WR class is. if that’s how the top 5 go I’m waiting to see who calls with the best offer if QB isn’t the selection.
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Post by Aris on Mar 28, 2024 18:22:17 GMT -5
Well, Donnie...not anything to do with your post, but you sure got away from damn ugly... to pretty real quick. What kind of make up and wig you using? IMHO, we should trade down if we can't dance up, and if we can't can't dance down...probably a WR at 6...or OT (my preference)....and get a WR in round 2.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Mar 28, 2024 23:19:44 GMT -5
(Maye) - lets hope Pats dont like him. Without having talked to a scout, that’s the kind of thing that I think he fights the Vikings for at #4. The board really changes if JJ comes off at #2. If he doesn’t love the QBs left then he hopes a WR he likes falls to 6. If that doesn’t happen (especially if there’s an unexpected QB still on the board he doesn’t want), he’ll take the picks and move back. If he can get an extra 1st or get back into the really early part of the 2nd, I bet that’s hard to pass up with a deep draft. We have enough holes that extra picks this year help. Everyone talks about taking a QB this year because the pickings are slim next year. But if JS can get an extra 1st then trading for a QB becomes a lot more likely too. Honestly, the more of him that I watch, if I could draw up the ideal raw prospect that Daboll/Schoen would draft, it's Maye. He literally has the exact same mechanical flaws that Josh Allen had coming out. Very fixable technical concerns. His arm talent would be top-5 in the NFL, day one. Hes so talented and is leaving so much on the table, with very historically correctable issues. He does things most QBs physically cannot. I suspect draft goes 1. Caleb, 2. Daniels Patriots I believe like Daniels, or trade back. I see the opportunity there as Patriots have so little talent on their roster, nothing salvageable offensively, a trade back let's them re-tool if they don't view Maye highly (I keep hearing Daniels is their guy) To me, Drake Maye goes to one of the Giants, Patriots, or Vikings. Giants can beat out Vikings for any trade, if they choose. McCarthy? I believe is a smoke screen, in terms of, they won't trade up for him, but I suspect they'd take him at #6, even over Nabers, if there. I think we're in a great spot no matter what, but I believe the Giants have Maye at the very top of their board.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Mar 28, 2024 23:25:44 GMT -5
(Maye) - lets hope Pats dont like him. I’m not a Maye fan at all, been wrong 1,000 times before though, but I find it very interesting that his high school coach (Josh McCown) is now the Vikings QB coach. I wonder if that factors into what they’ll do. I hear you, I totally see his concerns, but with the right coaching, his issues are really fixable. He really needs to work on his footwork, but he still generates so much velocity and skill throwing the ball His arm talent and anticipation skills are rare. I honestly like him more than any QB in this class, if I'm being honest. I think if he drops, the NFL is over-thinking it
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Post by 56rc on Mar 28, 2024 23:32:53 GMT -5
If we pass on QB in. RD 1 (and I think we will) we will ONLY take the best WR on the board. I would love to try to move back up in RD 1 if a guy like Michael Penix is still there later in RD 1, but I doubt he will be. Honestly, if we don't take a QB at 6, I'm kind of curious about rocking with Drew Lock. As a fellow lefty, I am rooting for Penix to succeed more than most, but he only works with a team who has a solid set of bookend OTs. At this point in Andrew Thomas' career, I don't want to risk his future development by having him change positions Also team lefty. Penix has had some injuries, still be cool to see him do well.
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Post by dreamteam2007 on Mar 29, 2024 4:13:52 GMT -5
If we can't get a top QB in the 1st round of the draft, it's a deep WR class we could get a good WR in the second round I'd get an offensive linemen or go defense may be linebacker in the first round. Tell me you have zero clue whats going on, without telling me you have zero clue whats going on
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 29, 2024 4:47:54 GMT -5
how do you "project" a player with an injury history to be healthy? You dont. At this point you expect Jones to get hurt at some point. With that in mind drafting his replacement would be actually be a smart thing to do if there is a QB they like at a given draft spot, If they are going to pick a QB in round it has nothing to do with Jones' health projection at all. He's had an injury history because he hasn't had a line to protect him.Hopefully this year he will. If he recovers by training camp, injury, his slate is wiped clean. Almost all of his injuries have nothing to do with the OL. Pretty sure you don’t even watch Giants games.
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