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Post by miggs on Mar 29, 2024 6:43:47 GMT -5
He's had an injury history because he hasn't had a line to protect him.Hopefully this year he will. If he recovers by training camp, injury, his slate is wiped clean. Almost all of his injuries have nothing to do with the OL. Pretty sure you don’t even watch Giants games. Nothing do with OL? Do you watch games? You can blame the field as well. |
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Post by hadenough on Mar 29, 2024 6:48:41 GMT -5
That’s why they should try to get back the 2nd round pick they gave up for Burns. They need another high pick. Trade back.
Maybe they get lucky and get Fuaga after trading back. He will be the olineman they’ve never had.
Then focus on WR and QB in the 2nd.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 29, 2024 9:54:16 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. Donnie not that we can't use those positions but we addressed both those positions in FA. 2 veteran OL Runyon and Elemour. Plus others for depth. And defense we traded for Burns to help our pass rush. We can add depth from the 3rd rd down in the draft. We spent significant money. We need 2 starters with our first 2 picks unless we go QB with the 1st pick. I would think one of those picks will be a WR. |
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Post by TEM on Mar 29, 2024 10:06:35 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. If I were to take an interior LB. It would be Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with pick 70. It kills 2 birds with one stone. A) He IMO the best ILB in this class. B) It makes his Ex Eagle / Redskin father root for the Giants. A win win IMO. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 29, 2024 10:08:52 GMT -5
Without having talked to a scout, that’s the kind of thing that I think he fights the Vikings for at #4. The board really changes if JJ comes off at #2. If he doesn’t love the QBs left then he hopes a WR he likes falls to 6. If that doesn’t happen (especially if there’s an unexpected QB still on the board he doesn’t want), he’ll take the picks and move back. If he can get an extra 1st or get back into the really early part of the 2nd, I bet that’s hard to pass up with a deep draft. We have enough holes that extra picks this year help. Everyone talks about taking a QB this year because the pickings are slim next year. But if JS can get an extra 1st then trading for a QB becomes a lot more likely too. Honestly, the more of him that I watch, if I could draw up the ideal raw prospect that Daboll/Schoen would draft, it's Maye. He literally has the exact same mechanical flaws that Josh Allen had coming out. Very fixable technical concerns. His arm talent would be top-5 in the NFL, day one. Hes so talented and is leaving so much on the table, with very historically correctable issues. He does things most QBs physically cannot. I suspect draft goes 1. Caleb, 2. Daniels Patriots I believe like Daniels, or trade back. I see the opportunity there as Patriots have so little talent on their roster, nothing salvageable offensively, a trade back let's them re-tool if they don't view Maye highly (I keep hearing Daniels is their guy) To me, Drake Maye goes to one of the Giants, Patriots, or Vikings. Giants can beat out Vikings for any trade, if they choose. McCarthy? I believe is a smoke screen, in terms of, they won't trade up for him, but I suspect they'd take him at #6, even over Nabers, if there. I think we're in a great spot no matter what, but I believe the Giants have Maye at the very top of their board. Thoughtful post, I think were all on the same page. A QB if possible or else 1 of the 2 top WR's available. 1 month to find out what the Giants do. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 29, 2024 10:17:55 GMT -5
why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. If I were to take an interior LB. It would be Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with pick 70. It kills 2 birds with one stone. A) He IMO the best ILB in this class. B) It makes his Ex Eagle / Redskin father root for the Giants. A win win IMO. and he and Runyen Sr can have beers together...  |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 29, 2024 10:52:39 GMT -5
If we go LB in the 1st, Schoen should be immediately fired. why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. Take a LB at #6 overall? Good lord, man. |
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Post by idkaname on Mar 29, 2024 11:01:32 GMT -5
why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. Take a LB at #6 overall? Good lord, man. it's better than punter right?...RIGHT? |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 29, 2024 11:04:23 GMT -5
Thoughtful post, I think were all on the same page. A QB if possible or else 1 of the 2 top WR's available. 1 month to find out what the Giants do. I'm not on that page. It's WR or bust for me. I don't think any of these QBs are a slam dunk homerun. We have Jones and Lock. That's $45m worth of QBs. Add the WR, we added a bunch to the OL, we added to the Def. See what we can get done with the QB we gave $40m to.
Obviously if the Giants decide to go QB and he's a stud I'm not going to be upset, but I think WR is the way to go. It's the biggest glaring hole on this team and the best players in the draft, no brainer to me.
Can't wait to see what happens.
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Post by lt56 on Mar 29, 2024 11:20:10 GMT -5
it is some depth at Receiver in this draft for sure, not sure who falls to #47 because it will likely be a run on these WR's before 47 and most of them like Xavier Legette will be gone for sure
that being said...no you don't pass on Nabers or Odunze for a Lineman or Defensive Player at #6, might as well trade out first if you want to do that and maybe pick up extra picks
If they go QB at #6 I say just trade or and pay Aiyuk or Higgins, would gladly give up #47 for one of those guys instead of drafting a Receiver at #47 with the hopes that he can be as good as those guys or maybe they can get them for a Conditional 2025 Pick which would be even better
If not then I guess you would hope a Troy Franklin or somebody like that will still be available at #47
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 29, 2024 11:39:38 GMT -5
why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. If I were to take an interior LB. It would be Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with pick 70. It kills 2 birds with one stone. A) He IMO the best ILB in this class. B) It makes his Ex Eagle / Redskin father root for the Giants. A win win IMO. His old man was a thumper.. Talked the talk.. and walked the walk. The kid doesn’t have his size of his dad.. Those backers in the late ‘90s were the size of a dump truck. But he can lay the wood on any would be backs.. |
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Post by DJones19 on Mar 29, 2024 11:53:55 GMT -5
Giants have so many big-time holes to fill, and If Jones is healthy and the Giants are to have any chance of a winning record. drafting a QB in the first round would be downright stupid.But if he's not projected to be healthy, that's a different story. jones is coming off a really serious injury one hit he could be done for. Bank on Lock being the week 1 Starter. I wouldn't, I hear Jones will be back well before week 1. Rumor is that he's already throwing. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 29, 2024 12:54:52 GMT -5
Almost all of his injuries have nothing to do with the OL. Pretty sure you don’t even watch Giants games. Nothing do with OL? Do you watch games? You can blame the field as well. Oh Miggs... you're about to get embarrassed/exposed once again. Yawn. Daniel Jones' injury history: Dec 1, 2019 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Jones suffered a high ankle sprain in a Week 13 loss to the Green Bay Packers. He missed two games. It was a designed run play where Jones was tackled and landed upon by the defender, who rolled up on his ankle: ------------------------- Nov 29, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones injured his right hamstring during the third quarter of Week 12's game at Cincinnati. He missed one game. It was designed run play where he pulled his hamstring while running. ------------------------ Dec 16, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones reinjured his right hamstring strain that limited his ability to run during the loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Still gimpy from the hamstring injury Jones was extremely immobile. He couldn't move in the pocket on an easily escapable play. So instead he took the sack. And even blamed himself for it: “I wasn’t running like I’m used to,” said Jones, whose right hamstring was clearly wrapped under his uniform. “So that may have played into certain situations like that, but I think I need to do a better job getting the ball out of my hand and finding the open guy. I was holding the ball a little bit and that put a lot of pressure on those guys up front.” ------------------------- Oct 10, 2021 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Jones suffered a concussion in Week 5's contest at Dallas. He was cleared for the next game. Designed run play where Jones acted like a complete idiot. He should have been called for an personal foul penalty as well. But since you don't watch the games here's a video of his idiocy. Nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Nov 28, 2021 NFL Cervical Neck Strain Jones suffered a season-ending neck injury during the Giants' Week 12 win against the Eagles. He was placed on IR and missed six games. Jones' first neck injury. He ran the ball up the middle and once again exposed himself as not knowing how or when to slide properly. It could have been called unnecessary roughness on the Eagles defender but the point it Jones got lambasted while trying to slide and not protecting himself. Had nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Oct 8, 2023 NFL Cervical Neck Jones sustained a neck injury late in Week 5 vs. the Dolphins. This is the only one that can be blamed on the OL. ------------------------ Nov 5, 2023 NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3 Jones suffered a season-ending torn ACL in his right knee in Week 9 vs. the Raiders. Nothing to do with the OL. Non contact injury. Again nothing to do with the OL. Seven injuries. One that has to do with the OL. Again - pretty sure you don't even watch Giants games. |
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Post by SG88 on Mar 29, 2024 13:29:13 GMT -5
Nothing do with OL? Do you watch games? You can blame the field as well. Oh Miggs... you're about to get embarrassed/exposed once again. Yawn. Daniel Jones' injury history: Dec 1, 2019 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Jones suffered a high ankle sprain in a Week 13 loss to the Green Bay Packers. He missed two games. It was a designed run play where Jones was tackled and landed upon by the defender, who rolled up on his ankle: ------------------------- Nov 29, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones injured his right hamstring during the third quarter of Week 12's game at Cincinnati. He missed one game. It was designed run play where he pulled his hamstring while running. ------------------------ Dec 16, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones reinjured his right hamstring strain that limited his ability to run during the loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Still gimpy from the hamstring injury Jones was extremely immobile. He couldn't move in the pocket on an easily escapable play. So instead he took the sack. And even blamed himself for it: “I wasn’t running like I’m used to,” said Jones, whose right hamstring was clearly wrapped under his uniform. “So that may have played into certain situations like that, but I think I need to do a better job getting the ball out of my hand and finding the open guy. I was holding the ball a little bit and that put a lot of pressure on those guys up front.” ------------------------- Oct 10, 2021 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Jones suffered a concussion in Week 5's contest at Dallas. He was cleared for the next game. Designed run play where Jones acted like a complete idiot. He should have been called for an personal foul penalty as well. But since you don't watch the games here's a video of his idiocy. Nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Nov 28, 2021 NFL Cervical Neck Strain Jones suffered a season-ending neck injury during the Giants' Week 12 win against the Eagles. He was placed on IR and missed six games. Jones' first neck injury. He ran the ball up the middle and once again exposed himself as not knowing how or when to slide properly. It could have been called unnecessary roughness on the Eagles defender but the point it Jones got lambasted while trying to slide and not protecting himself. Had nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Oct 8, 2023 NFL Cervical Neck Jones sustained a neck injury late in Week 5 vs. the Dolphins. This is the only one that can be blamed on the OL. ------------------------ Nov 5, 2023 NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3 Jones suffered a season-ending torn ACL in his right knee in Week 9 vs. the Raiders. Nothing to do with the OL. Non contact injury. Again nothing to do with the OL. Seven injuries. One that has to do with the OL. Again - pretty sure you don't even watch Giants games. Damn, 8 reminds me of that guy from "Operation". |
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Post by Aris on Mar 29, 2024 13:30:06 GMT -5
Thoughtful post, I think were all on the same page. A QB if possible or else 1 of the 2 top WR's available. 1 month to find out what the Giants do. I'm not on that page. It's WR or bust for me. I don't think any of these QBs are a slam dunk homerun. We have Jones and Lock. That's $45m worth of QBs. Add the WR, we added a bunch to the OL, we added to the Def. See what we can get done with the QB we gave $40m to.
Obviously if the Giants decide to go QB and he's a stud I'm not going to be upset, but I think WR is the way to go. It's the biggest glaring hole on this team and the best players in the draft, no brainer to me.
Can't wait to see what happens.
You saying that takes me back to Barkley at 2. Usually if you want a guy in the first I know it's the wrong pick  ...you latch on a player like Simmons or Barkley and then throw out all the QB or OL talent. It reeks of Jones can still be the guy mentality. He's done. We're at 6...we have 6 QB's that can possibly start, 4 with all traits to make them possibly franchise, and 2 that will be taken later in the first. We pick further away from a top spot next year or the year after and have 1 QB with franchise traits, it's never get there trade time. Yeah maybe a Burrow comes out of nowhere and makes it a 2 with traits...but picking 20 plus and looking at a top QB's at teams picking 1 or 2, they usually need QB's. Might be sit Jones and look at free agents time. You like Dak?  Beating the Eagles might cost us next years 1st with the flip of this year and this years 2nd, but teams with QB's trading back really hate traveling too far past the prime area to not get pro bowl potential, and at 6, we are in the zone. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Mar 29, 2024 14:00:46 GMT -5
Honestly, the more of him that I watch, if I could draw up the ideal raw prospect that Daboll/Schoen would draft, it's Maye. He literally has the exact same mechanical flaws that Josh Allen had coming out. Very fixable technical concerns. His arm talent would be top-5 in the NFL, day one. Hes so talented and is leaving so much on the table, with very historically correctable issues. He does things most QBs physically cannot. I suspect draft goes 1. Caleb, 2. Daniels Patriots I believe like Daniels, or trade back. I see the opportunity there as Patriots have so little talent on their roster, nothing salvageable offensively, a trade back let's them re-tool if they don't view Maye highly (I keep hearing Daniels is their guy) To me, Drake Maye goes to one of the Giants, Patriots, or Vikings. Giants can beat out Vikings for any trade, if they choose. McCarthy? I believe is a smoke screen, in terms of, they won't trade up for him, but I suspect they'd take him at #6, even over Nabers, if there. I think we're in a great spot no matter what, but I believe the Giants have Maye at the very top of their board. Thoughtful post, I think were all on the same page. A QB if possible or else 1 of the 2 top WR's available. 1 month to find out what the Giants do. At #6 my big board (with positional value) for potential players would be this: 1. Maye 2. MHJ 3. Nabers 4. JJ 5. Daniels/Odunze I would absolutely trade #6, #49, and next year's first to draft Maye. But id draft Nabers over JJ, even with the need at QB as Nabers is that freaking good. I wonder how the Giants break this situation down, or how they see it. I also wouldn't mind the strategy of taking Nabers, And coming back into the late first and drafting Penix. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 29, 2024 14:25:57 GMT -5
Thoughtful post, I think were all on the same page. A QB if possible or else 1 of the 2 top WR's available. 1 month to find out what the Giants do. I'm not on that page. It's WR or bust for me. I don't think any of these QBs are a slam dunk homerun. We have Jones and Lock. That's $45m worth of QBs. Add the WR, we added a bunch to the OL, we added to the Def. See what we can get done with the QB we gave $40m to.
Obviously if the Giants decide to go QB and he's a stud I'm not going to be upset, but I think WR is the way to go. It's the biggest glaring hole on this team and the best players in the draft, no brainer to me.
Can't wait to see what happens.
Well we might very well wind up going that way with the WR first. But imo our biggest weakness is the QB position and the most important. So if we have a chance to correct and improve it I think we have to go for the QB over anyone. They take the best WR available if they miss getting the QB. That's what I think that's what the Giants are going to do. I actually would not be upset whatever the Giants do with the 1st pick this year. Whoever they wind up with he is going to be better than who we have at that position now. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 29, 2024 14:30:36 GMT -5
Oh Miggs... you're about to get embarrassed/exposed once again. Yawn. Daniel Jones' injury history: Dec 1, 2019 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Jones suffered a high ankle sprain in a Week 13 loss to the Green Bay Packers. He missed two games. It was a designed run play where Jones was tackled and landed upon by the defender, who rolled up on his ankle: ------------------------- Nov 29, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones injured his right hamstring during the third quarter of Week 12's game at Cincinnati. He missed one game. It was designed run play where he pulled his hamstring while running. ------------------------ Dec 16, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones reinjured his right hamstring strain that limited his ability to run during the loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Still gimpy from the hamstring injury Jones was extremely immobile. He couldn't move in the pocket on an easily escapable play. So instead he took the sack. And even blamed himself for it: “I wasn’t running like I’m used to,” said Jones, whose right hamstring was clearly wrapped under his uniform. “So that may have played into certain situations like that, but I think I need to do a better job getting the ball out of my hand and finding the open guy. I was holding the ball a little bit and that put a lot of pressure on those guys up front.” ------------------------- Oct 10, 2021 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Jones suffered a concussion in Week 5's contest at Dallas. He was cleared for the next game. Designed run play where Jones acted like a complete idiot. He should have been called for an personal foul penalty as well. But since you don't watch the games here's a video of his idiocy. Nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Nov 28, 2021 NFL Cervical Neck Strain Jones suffered a season-ending neck injury during the Giants' Week 12 win against the Eagles. He was placed on IR and missed six games. Jones' first neck injury. He ran the ball up the middle and once again exposed himself as not knowing how or when to slide properly. It could have been called unnecessary roughness on the Eagles defender but the point it Jones got lambasted while trying to slide and not protecting himself. Had nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Oct 8, 2023 NFL Cervical Neck Jones sustained a neck injury late in Week 5 vs. the Dolphins. This is the only one that can be blamed on the OL. ------------------------ Nov 5, 2023 NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3 Jones suffered a season-ending torn ACL in his right knee in Week 9 vs. the Raiders. Nothing to do with the OL. Non contact injury. Again nothing to do with the OL. Seven injuries. One that has to do with the OL. Again - pretty sure you don't even watch Giants games. Damn, 8 reminds me of that guy from "Operation". And Miggs reminds me of Mr Magoo being so blind to the obvious. aka Mr Miggoo. |
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Post by Aris on Mar 29, 2024 14:58:27 GMT -5
Damn, 8 reminds me of that guy from "Operation". And Miggs reminds me of Mr Magoo being so blind to the obvious. aka Mr Miggoo. He does throw around a lot of spunk...I have him on ignore but we always need a Lecter for the board Miggs.... and choking him out with his own tongue should be heralded and revered, not punished.... and you sir, given more books, more drawings and a heated toilet bowl seat...and a large TV programmed 24 hours to the NFL network |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 29, 2024 16:53:52 GMT -5
Well we might very well wind up going that way with the WR first. But imo our biggest weakness is the QB position and the most important. So if we have a chance to correct and improve it I think we have to go for the QB over anyone. They take the best WR available if they miss getting the QB. That's what I think that's what the Giants are going to do. I actually would not be upset whatever the Giants do with the 1st pick this year. Whoever they wind up with he is going to be better than who we have at that position now. Only reason I say WR is the biggest need is because I think the Giants still believe in Jones' skills. If they don't believe in Jones then QB is need #1.
I'm good with what ever they do, unless it doesn't work out.
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Post by miggs on Mar 29, 2024 21:36:06 GMT -5
Nothing do with OL? Do you watch games? You can blame the field as well. Oh Miggs... you're about to get embarrassed/exposed once again. Yawn. Daniel Jones' injury history: Dec 1, 2019 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Jones suffered a high ankle sprain in a Week 13 loss to the Green Bay Packers. He missed two games. It was a designed run play where Jones was tackled and landed upon by the defender, who rolled up on his ankle: ------------------------- Nov 29, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones injured his right hamstring during the third quarter of Week 12's game at Cincinnati. He missed one game. It was designed run play where he pulled his hamstring while running. ------------------------ Dec 16, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones reinjured his right hamstring strain that limited his ability to run during the loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Still gimpy from the hamstring injury Jones was extremely immobile. He couldn't move in the pocket on an easily escapable play. So instead he took the sack. And even blamed himself for it: “I wasn’t running like I’m used to,” said Jones, whose right hamstring was clearly wrapped under his uniform. “So that may have played into certain situations like that, but I think I need to do a better job getting the ball out of my hand and finding the open guy. I was holding the ball a little bit and that put a lot of pressure on those guys up front.” ------------------------- Oct 10, 2021 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Jones suffered a concussion in Week 5's contest at Dallas. He was cleared for the next game. Designed run play where Jones acted like a complete idiot. He should have been called for an personal foul penalty as well. But since you don't watch the games here's a video of his idiocy. Nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Nov 28, 2021 NFL Cervical Neck Strain Jones suffered a season-ending neck injury during the Giants' Week 12 win against the Eagles. He was placed on IR and missed six games. Jones' first neck injury. He ran the ball up the middle and once again exposed himself as not knowing how or when to slide properly. It could have been called unnecessary roughness on the Eagles defender but the point it Jones got lambasted while trying to slide and not protecting himself. Had nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Oct 8, 2023 NFL Cervical Neck Jones sustained a neck injury late in Week 5 vs. the Dolphins. This is the only one that can be blamed on the OL. ------------------------ Nov 5, 2023 NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3 Jones suffered a season-ending torn ACL in his right knee in Week 9 vs. the Raiders. Nothing to do with the OL. Non contact injury. Again nothing to do with the OL. Seven injuries. One that has to do with the OL. Again - pretty sure you don't even watch Giants games. He's not injury prone.Football is a violent game. Injuries can happen to anyone. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 29, 2024 22:00:20 GMT -5
Oh Miggs... you're about to get embarrassed/exposed once again. Yawn. Daniel Jones' injury history: Dec 1, 2019 NFL Pedal Ankle (high) Sprain Grade 3 Jones suffered a high ankle sprain in a Week 13 loss to the Green Bay Packers. He missed two games. It was a designed run play where Jones was tackled and landed upon by the defender, who rolled up on his ankle: ------------------------- Nov 29, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones injured his right hamstring during the third quarter of Week 12's game at Cincinnati. He missed one game. It was designed run play where he pulled his hamstring while running. ------------------------ Dec 16, 2020 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Jones reinjured his right hamstring strain that limited his ability to run during the loss to the Arizona Cardinals. Still gimpy from the hamstring injury Jones was extremely immobile. He couldn't move in the pocket on an easily escapable play. So instead he took the sack. And even blamed himself for it: “I wasn’t running like I’m used to,” said Jones, whose right hamstring was clearly wrapped under his uniform. “So that may have played into certain situations like that, but I think I need to do a better job getting the ball out of my hand and finding the open guy. I was holding the ball a little bit and that put a lot of pressure on those guys up front.” ------------------------- Oct 10, 2021 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Jones suffered a concussion in Week 5's contest at Dallas. He was cleared for the next game. Designed run play where Jones acted like a complete idiot. He should have been called for an personal foul penalty as well. But since you don't watch the games here's a video of his idiocy. Nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Nov 28, 2021 NFL Cervical Neck Strain Jones suffered a season-ending neck injury during the Giants' Week 12 win against the Eagles. He was placed on IR and missed six games. Jones' first neck injury. He ran the ball up the middle and once again exposed himself as not knowing how or when to slide properly. It could have been called unnecessary roughness on the Eagles defender but the point it Jones got lambasted while trying to slide and not protecting himself. Had nothing to do with the OL. ------------------------ Oct 8, 2023 NFL Cervical Neck Jones sustained a neck injury late in Week 5 vs. the Dolphins. This is the only one that can be blamed on the OL. ------------------------ Nov 5, 2023 NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3 Jones suffered a season-ending torn ACL in his right knee in Week 9 vs. the Raiders. Nothing to do with the OL. Non contact injury. Again nothing to do with the OL. Seven injuries. One that has to do with the OL. Again - pretty sure you don't even watch Giants games. He's not injury prone.Football is a violent game. Injuries can happen to anyone. Stay on target, Gold Five. You claimed that Jones’ Injuries were due to the OL and that he isn’t protected well. I debunked that claim by saying his injuries have nothing to do with the OL. You replied back with, “nothing to do with the OL?” I just showed you that six of his seven injuries literally had nothing to do with the OL or lack of protection. I assume you’re conceding that you truly don’t watch the games by the diversionary reply tactic above. Carry on, Mr Miggoo. |
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Post by miggs on Mar 29, 2024 23:23:43 GMT -5
He's not injury prone.Football is a violent game. Injuries can happen to anyone. Stay on target, Gold Five. You claimed that Jones’ Injuries were due to the OL and that he isn’t protected well. I debunked that claim by saying his injuries have nothing to do with the OL. You replied back with, “nothing to do with the OL?” I just showed you that six of his seven injuries literally had nothing to do with the OL or lack of protection. I assume you’re conceding that you truly don’t watch the games by the diversionary reply tactic above. Carry on, Mr Miggoo. He's played 6 years and gets hurt about once per year. That's plain awful for a football QB who has only an instant to make decisions. And you blame him for his neck injuries because he made some mistakes running. He runs a lot and does very well. I guess you expect perfection. You don't like him to begin with. You should only have his brains which you obviously don't. |
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Post by Delicreep on Mar 30, 2024 6:15:40 GMT -5
I get investing, but I seem to not understand the draft.
If the FO believes Penix is a franchise QB, then he has to be worth the 6th pick, because nobody knows for sure what happens at 7…or 8…or 9.
How do you say, “this guy can turn our franchise around, but he’s not worth the 6th pick”?
And as always, I have no idea who this guy is; I’m just reading the thread as a clueless fan interested in what others think.
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Post by shocknaweny on Mar 30, 2024 9:18:36 GMT -5
why? We are weak at Linebacker what about bolster the defense with a defensive end depth baby either defense or offensive line build through the trenches inside out. You give your QB protection or depth on defense that's how you build a great team for years hopefully our GM and front office knows this. If I were to take an interior LB. It would be Jeremiah Trotter Jr. with pick 70. It kills 2 birds with one stone. A) He IMO the best ILB in this class. B) It makes his Ex Eagle / Redskin father root for the Giants. A win win IMO. Him and Runyan that would be hilarious |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 30, 2024 10:06:32 GMT -5
Stay on target, Gold Five. You claimed that Jones’ Injuries were due to the OL and that he isn’t protected well. I debunked that claim by saying his injuries have nothing to do with the OL. You replied back with, “nothing to do with the OL?” I just showed you that six of his seven injuries literally had nothing to do with the OL or lack of protection. I assume you’re conceding that you truly don’t watch the games by the diversionary reply tactic above. Carry on, Mr Miggoo. He's played 6 years and gets hurt about once per year. That's plain awful for a football QB who has only an instant to make decisions. And you blame him for his neck injuries because he made some mistakes running. He runs a lot and does very well. I guess you expect perfection. You don't like him to begin with. You should only have his brains which you obviously don't. He's had an injury history because he hasn't had a line to protect him. Look how far you deflectively danced away from your original statement. Not surprisingly considering you, once again, expose you literally have no clue about reality. Tell me you don't watch Giants games without telling me. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 30, 2024 10:11:24 GMT -5
I get investing, but I seem to not understand the draft. If the FO believes Penix is a franchise QB, then he has to be worth the 6th pick, because nobody knows for sure what happens at 7…or 8…or 9. How do you say, “this guy can turn our franchise around, but he’s not worth the 6th pick”? And as always, I have no idea who this guy is; I’m just reading the thread as a clueless fan interested in what others think. Below is likely why the boards are scared. We will see what NFL teams do. He might be a very good pro. Date League Injury Details Oct 20, 2018 Non-NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3 Penix tore his right ACL against Penn State. Nov 28, 2020 Non-NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3 Penix re-tore his right ACL against Maryland. He returned to Indiana in 2021 and took the field on September 4, despite not getting medical clearance. Nov 2, 2019 Non-NFL Shoulder Clavicle Fracture Penix missed the final four games, including Indiana's bowl game. Oct 2, 2021 Non-NFL Shoulder A/C Joint Separation Penix missed the remainder of the 2021 season |
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...you latch on a player like Simmons or Barkley and then throw out all the QB or OL talent.
