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Post by jmike on Apr 12, 2024 10:16:43 GMT -5
I like like Pearsal and Wilson also like Coleman he was fastest through the Gauntlet which might translate to on field play. I really like Wilson also. But like others, more of what we have. We have a lot of needs on this team, we have a good rounded group at WR and I'd like to add to it really with anyone. What we need is a #1 WR, that is what we don't have there. But that is likely only grabbed at 6. After that, while anyone would be a benefit, a player that compliments rather than duplicates what we have would be my preferred route. Corley might be an improvement on Robinson, but would fill a similar role. Franklin might be an improvement on Hyatt, but would fill a similar role. As a couple of examples. I wouldn't balk at adding either depending on who else is there, but neither would be an ideal selection. Of course if these guys turn into stars, I don't much care about Robinson or Hyatt losing time to them; I just don't have that clear a view into the future to make that call at this time.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 12, 2024 10:52:01 GMT -5
I like like Pearsal and Wilson also like Coleman he was fastest through the Gauntlet which might translate to on field play. I really like Wilson also. But like others, more of what we have. We have a lot of needs on this team, we have a good rounded group at WR and I'd like to add to it really with anyone. What we need is a #1 WR, that is what we don't have there. But that is likely only grabbed at 6. After that, while anyone would be a benefit, a player that compliments rather than duplicates what we have would be my preferred route. Corley might be an improvement on Robinson, but would fill a similar role. Franklin might be an improvement on Hyatt, but would fill a similar role. As a couple of examples. I wouldn't balk at adding either depending on who else is there, but neither would be an ideal selection. Of course if these guys turn into stars, I don't much care about Robinson or Hyatt losing time to them; I just don't have that clear a view into the future to make that call at this time. I agree those were my second choices if we miss out on one of the top 3 we have been missing a #1 fro so long it is a distant memory of OBJ and Eli carving up defenses.
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Post by jmike on Apr 12, 2024 11:59:24 GMT -5
I really like Wilson also. But like others, more of what we have. We have a lot of needs on this team, we have a good rounded group at WR and I'd like to add to it really with anyone. What we need is a #1 WR, that is what we don't have there. But that is likely only grabbed at 6. After that, while anyone would be a benefit, a player that compliments rather than duplicates what we have would be my preferred route. Corley might be an improvement on Robinson, but would fill a similar role. Franklin might be an improvement on Hyatt, but would fill a similar role. As a couple of examples. I wouldn't balk at adding either depending on who else is there, but neither would be an ideal selection. Of course if these guys turn into stars, I don't much care about Robinson or Hyatt losing time to them; I just don't have that clear a view into the future to make that call at this time. I agree those were my second choices if we miss out on one of the top 3 we have been missing a #1 fro so long it is a distant memory of OBJ and Eli carving up defenses. If you want an OBJ type after round one, that would be Burton. But baggage there.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 12, 2024 12:02:14 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. I've been watching tape of some second tier WRs in this draft and I love this player.
id love him if we go QB in the first.
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Post by jmike on Apr 12, 2024 12:04:37 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. id love him if we go QB in the first. Great player. The chance of him being there at 47 though are extremely small. But a nice selection if he is. I anticipate he goes somewhere between 20 and 35.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 12, 2024 12:05:00 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. id love him if we go QB in the first. Great player. The chance of him being there at 47 though are extremely small. But a nice selection if he is. I anticipate he goes somewhere between 20 and 35. hopefully his whiteness lets him slide.
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Post by jmike on Apr 12, 2024 12:08:03 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. I've been watching tape of some second tier WRs in this draft and I love this player. id love him if we go QB in the first. RAS is a nice tool, but I think it often puts too much weight on size(ht/wt) in its calculation.
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Post by Nick6475 on Apr 12, 2024 12:24:37 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. I've been watching tape of some second tier WRs in this draft and I love this player. id love him if we go QB in the first. I don't see the Kupp comparison from the statistics perspective. Cupp was bigger and slower. They both excelled at agility He seems like he is a bigger and more agile Wan'Dale Robinson which could be good because Robinson sure does get hurt a lot.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 12, 2024 12:37:07 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. I've been watching tape of some second tier WRs in this draft and I love this player. id love him if we go QB in the first. I don't see the Kupp comparison from the statistics perspective. Cupp was bigger and slower. They both excelled at agility He seems like he is a bigger and more agile Wan'Dale Robinson which could be good because Robinson sure does get hurt a lot. its the agility + route running that reminds me most of Kupp! I dont see McConkeys 4.39 on tape either
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Post by Nick6475 on Apr 12, 2024 12:41:25 GMT -5
I don't see the Kupp comparison from the statistics perspective. Cupp was bigger and slower. They both excelled at agility He seems like he is a bigger and more agile Wan'Dale Robinson which could be good because Robinson sure does get hurt a lot. its the agility + route running that reminds me most of Kupp! I dont see McConkeys 4.39 on tape either Yeah, like JMike said, the RAS score is nice, but certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Cupp with a total of 5 and he's one of the best in the NFL.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 12, 2024 12:44:45 GMT -5
its the agility + route running that reminds me most of Kupp! I dont see McConkeys 4.39 on tape either Yeah, like JMike said, the RAS score is nice, but certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Cupp with a total of 5 and he's one of the best in the NFL. RAS favours big fast guys. Its why they consider Odunze a better athlete than Nabers, which IMO, hes not.
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Post by jmike on Apr 12, 2024 13:34:10 GMT -5
RAS Garrett Wilson/Ladd McConkey ht: 5116/5115 wt: 183/186 vert: 36/36 brd: 1003/1004 40: 4.38/4.39 20: 2.56/2.54 10: 1.53/1.52 shtl: 4.36/3.97 Arm: 32/30.25 Hand: 9.875/8.625
The last 3 metrics are the biggest differences
Also Ladd had the 8.72 3 cone and 13 bench reps, Wilson didn't test as far as I can see.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 12, 2024 16:09:12 GMT -5
I don't think Corley or Franklin add an element the team doesn't already have. Both good players for sure. Legette of the three would add a missing element, so I would lean there among them. Of the WRs that might make it to #47, Pearsall is the one I like the most for the Giants, but Legette is close. Either or both going in the back end of the first wouldn't surprise me, neither would either lasting until the 3rd. With so many players at the position and bunched so close together after the top 4 or 5, where they go will depend heavily on what flavor the people making the picks prefer. One of the best WRs after the first group is Burton, but I understand he has some serious off field concerns, so I haven't really considered him at all. I guess Franklin would be kind of like a mix of Slayton and Hyatt but as someone who is already a better route runner than both. Corley is somoene who would become a force on our team, we have NOBODY like him on the team. Hes like the 2nd coming of Deebo Samuel, he's a YAC beast who makes defense feel the pain when the ball is in his hands. He's like a running back who happens to play WR, LOL. Im not sure how I feel about Pearsall, he is a CRISP route runner and seems to have good hands, unfortunately, he seems to have an issue getting separation. He seems more 'fast' than 'quick', IMO he seems destine for the slot. I think Legette would be my top choice if we miss out on Nabers or Odunze. He's big, strong, fast, and has good hands. Not really a great route runner, but he's more of a guy who you throw the ball in his direction and he gets up and gets it!
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Post by jmike on Apr 12, 2024 17:00:54 GMT -5
I don't think Corley or Franklin add an element the team doesn't already have. Both good players for sure. Legette of the three would add a missing element, so I would lean there among them. Of the WRs that might make it to #47, Pearsall is the one I like the most for the Giants, but Legette is close. Either or both going in the back end of the first wouldn't surprise me, neither would either lasting until the 3rd. With so many players at the position and bunched so close together after the top 4 or 5, where they go will depend heavily on what flavor the people making the picks prefer. One of the best WRs after the first group is Burton, but I understand he has some serious off field concerns, so I haven't really considered him at all. I guess Franklin would be kind of like a mix of Slayton and Hyatt but as someone who is already a better route runner than both. Corley is somoene who would become a force on our team, we have NOBODY like him on the team. Hes like the 2nd coming of Deebo Samuel, he's a YAC beast who makes defense feel the pain when the ball is in his hands. He's like a running back who happens to play WR, LOL. Im not sure how I feel about Pearsall, he is a CRISP route runner and seems to have good hands, unfortunately, he seems to have an issue getting separation. He seems more 'fast' than 'quick', IMO he seems destine for the slot. I think Legette would be my top choice if we miss out on Nabers or Odunze. He's big, strong, fast, and has good hands. Not really a great route runner, but he's more of a guy who you throw the ball in his direction and he gets up and gets it! I disagree with you on Franklin. I am not overly impressed with him on anything but his deep speed and I think Hyatt is better than him in that aspect of his game. At least at the pre draft point for both. Slayton is just a better WR than both right now. But he is what he is, I don't see any improvement to Slayton's game coming. Franklin and Hyatt I think have similar development potential and if I was looking and a choice between the two, I'm taking Hyatt. He has elite ball tracking skill and I will take the player with an elite talent in one skill over a similar player that may be better in other facets of the game but still needs work there also. Better route runner, yes, NFL level route runner right now, no. at least I don't think so. Agree with you on Corley. Robinson would not stop me from taking him. But a similar graded player at the same position with a different role would. Pearsall is a jack of all trades and master of all trades type guy. In a draft with less overall WR talent, he'll be a top 10 to 15 pick. He just does everything well. He isn't going to make a living lining up at the X, but he can do it and can as well at all the other positions. It doesn't matter what element your WR group is missing, Pearsall can be that missing link. Good hands, good routes, good vision as a runner, good breaks off the line, eats up press, finds holes in zones, has deep speed, can YAC, etc... Literally nothing he can't do for an offense, he just isn't elite at any one thing, but so good at all of them he can be an elite WR. I'm looking at KC at 32 and if they aren't taking him it is because he's gone or they took Worthy instead. Would not be surprised to see him go as high as 14 to the Saints. But want to make money? Put some down on him going 15 to the Colts. I'm sure it's giving long odds. I think the Colts are taking CB-Mitchell there, but Robinson and Pearsall had chemistry you don't see much in college, you better believe they'd like to pair them up again and they might just pull the trigger at 15 if they don't think he will be there for them in the 2nd. Now watch him go in the 5th, LOL. 6'1 189 4.41 40yrd 1.57 10yrd 42" Vert!10'9" broad!6.64 3cone!4.05 20shuttleHe's fast, explosive and a smart receiver. After the top 4, Harrison, Nabers, Odunze and Thomas; making a case for Pearsall being #5 would not be hard. He's in a large group of guys that will have different grades depending on what the team is looking for, but none of them are clearly better that Pearsall on the field or athletically. Only real issue you can point to is shorter than ideal arms 31" and hand size 9.25". Both larger than McConkey for example. Hands are bigger than Worthy, Legette, Troy Franklin and Adonai Mitchell. So less than ideal, but not a problem and fits with his competition.
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Post by jmike on Apr 12, 2024 17:57:36 GMT -5
I don't think Corley or Franklin add an element the team doesn't already have. Both good players for sure. Legette of the three would add a missing element, so I would lean there among them. Of the WRs that might make it to #47, Pearsall is the one I like the most for the Giants, but Legette is close. Either or both going in the back end of the first wouldn't surprise me, neither would either lasting until the 3rd. With so many players at the position and bunched so close together after the top 4 or 5, where they go will depend heavily on what flavor the people making the picks prefer. One of the best WRs after the first group is Burton, but I understand he has some serious off field concerns, so I haven't really considered him at all. I guess Franklin would be kind of like a mix of Slayton and Hyatt but as someone who is already a better route runner than both. Corley is somoene who would become a force on our team, we have NOBODY like him on the team. Hes like the 2nd coming of Deebo Samuel, he's a YAC beast who makes defense feel the pain when the ball is in his hands. He's like a running back who happens to play WR, LOL. Im not sure how I feel about Pearsall, he is a CRISP route runner and seems to have good hands, unfortunately, he seems to have an issue getting separation. He seems more 'fast' than 'quick', IMO he seems destine for the slot. I think Legette would be my top choice if we miss out on Nabers or Odunze. He's big, strong, fast, and has good hands. Not really a great route runner, but he's more of a guy who you throw the ball in his direction and he gets up and gets it! Oh sorry, skipped Legette. Legette IS that guy. You can nitpick his numbers, or maybe size, or maybe speed, maybe his route running or whatever you want. Legette IS that guy and if you need that guy after the top 4, Legette is that guy. So if you are asking me, WR at 47, I'm hoping either Legette or Pearsall is there, but I don't think either of them will be. Don't ask me to pick between them, because I can't right now. FYI, I have my favorites at certain positions each draft. Not my bests, just favorites. At WR the Giants have drafted my favorites 4 times, just 4. Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks, Odell Beckham Jr and Sterling Shepard. Odunze, Pearsall and Legette are my favorites in this draft at WR.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 14, 2024 9:05:44 GMT -5
I guess Franklin would be kind of like a mix of Slayton and Hyatt but as someone who is already a better route runner than both. Corley is somoene who would become a force on our team, we have NOBODY like him on the team. Hes like the 2nd coming of Deebo Samuel, he's a YAC beast who makes defense feel the pain when the ball is in his hands. He's like a running back who happens to play WR, LOL. Im not sure how I feel about Pearsall, he is a CRISP route runner and seems to have good hands, unfortunately, he seems to have an issue getting separation. He seems more 'fast' than 'quick', IMO he seems destine for the slot. I think Legette would be my top choice if we miss out on Nabers or Odunze. He's big, strong, fast, and has good hands. Not really a great route runner, but he's more of a guy who you throw the ball in his direction and he gets up and gets it! I disagree with you on Franklin. I am not overly impressed with him on anything but his deep speed and I think Hyatt is better than him in that aspect of his game. At least at the pre draft point for both. Slayton is just a better WR than both right now. But he is what he is, I don't see any improvement to Slayton's game coming. Franklin and Hyatt I think have similar development potential and if I was looking and a choice between the two, I'm taking Hyatt. He has elite ball tracking skill and I will take the player with an elite talent in one skill over a similar player that may be better in other facets of the game but still needs work there also. Better route runner, yes, NFL level route runner right now, no. at least I don't think so. Agree with you on Corley. Robinson would not stop me from taking him. But a similar graded player at the same position with a different role would. Pearsall is a jack of all trades and master of all trades type guy. In a draft with less overall WR talent, he'll be a top 10 to 15 pick. He just does everything well. He isn't going to make a living lining up at the X, but he can do it and can as well at all the other positions. It doesn't matter what element your WR group is missing, Pearsall can be that missing link. Good hands, good routes, good vision as a runner, good breaks off the line, eats up press, finds holes in zones, has deep speed, can YAC, etc... Literally nothing he can't do for an offense, he just isn't elite at any one thing, but so good at all of them he can be an elite WR. I'm looking at KC at 32 and if they aren't taking him it is because he's gone or they took Worthy instead. Would not be surprised to see him go as high as 14 to the Saints. But want to make money? Put some down on him going 15 to the Colts. I'm sure it's giving long odds. I think the Colts are taking CB-Mitchell there, but Robinson and Pearsall had chemistry you don't see much in college, you better believe they'd like to pair them up again and they might just pull the trigger at 15 if they don't think he will be there for them in the 2nd. Now watch him go in the 5th, LOL. 6'1 189 4.41 40yrd 1.57 10yrd 42" Vert!10'9" broad!6.64 3cone!4.05 20shuttleHe's fast, explosive and a smart receiver. After the top 4, Harrison, Nabers, Odunze and Thomas; making a case for Pearsall being #5 would not be hard. He's in a large group of guys that will have different grades depending on what the team is looking for, but none of them are clearly better that Pearsall on the field or athletically. Only real issue you can point to is shorter than ideal arms 31" and hand size 9.25". Both larger than McConkey for example. Hands are bigger than Worthy, Legette, Troy Franklin and Adonai Mitchell. So less than ideal, but not a problem and fits with his competition. You made alot of strong points with this post. As for Franklin, he is reminiscent of Hyatt, and thats not a bad thing. Both have top notch downfield speed, both can play outside or in the slot, both are exceptional at downfield tracking and 'high pointing' the ball. The biggest difference is that Franklin is a PRESICE route runner, while Hyatt is not. TBH, id be more than happy with 2 players that bring their skill sets to the field, it doesnt have to be 1 or the other. I agree that Slayton has kind of plateaued, which isnt great, but it IS serviceable. I think this is his last contract year and tbh, he hasnt really done much to warrant a big money deal, which is nice for us, but sucks for him. Pearsall seems good, and I could get on board, depending on where we see him fit. To me, he seems like a slot guy, and that role seems to be filled by Wandale. The more I watch Pearsall, the more I see Amon St Brown in dudes game
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Post by jmike on Apr 14, 2024 10:28:57 GMT -5
I disagree with you on Franklin. I am not overly impressed with him on anything but his deep speed and I think Hyatt is better than him in that aspect of his game. At least at the pre draft point for both. Slayton is just a better WR than both right now. But he is what he is, I don't see any improvement to Slayton's game coming. Franklin and Hyatt I think have similar development potential and if I was looking and a choice between the two, I'm taking Hyatt. He has elite ball tracking skill and I will take the player with an elite talent in one skill over a similar player that may be better in other facets of the game but still needs work there also. Better route runner, yes, NFL level route runner right now, no. at least I don't think so. Agree with you on Corley. Robinson would not stop me from taking him. But a similar graded player at the same position with a different role would. Pearsall is a jack of all trades and master of all trades type guy. In a draft with less overall WR talent, he'll be a top 10 to 15 pick. He just does everything well. He isn't going to make a living lining up at the X, but he can do it and can as well at all the other positions. It doesn't matter what element your WR group is missing, Pearsall can be that missing link. Good hands, good routes, good vision as a runner, good breaks off the line, eats up press, finds holes in zones, has deep speed, can YAC, etc... Literally nothing he can't do for an offense, he just isn't elite at any one thing, but so good at all of them he can be an elite WR. I'm looking at KC at 32 and if they aren't taking him it is because he's gone or they took Worthy instead. Would not be surprised to see him go as high as 14 to the Saints. But want to make money? Put some down on him going 15 to the Colts. I'm sure it's giving long odds. I think the Colts are taking CB-Mitchell there, but Robinson and Pearsall had chemistry you don't see much in college, you better believe they'd like to pair them up again and they might just pull the trigger at 15 if they don't think he will be there for them in the 2nd. Now watch him go in the 5th, LOL. 6'1 189 4.41 40yrd 1.57 10yrd 42" Vert!10'9" broad!6.64 3cone!4.05 20shuttleHe's fast, explosive and a smart receiver. After the top 4, Harrison, Nabers, Odunze and Thomas; making a case for Pearsall being #5 would not be hard. He's in a large group of guys that will have different grades depending on what the team is looking for, but none of them are clearly better that Pearsall on the field or athletically. Only real issue you can point to is shorter than ideal arms 31" and hand size 9.25". Both larger than McConkey for example. Hands are bigger than Worthy, Legette, Troy Franklin and Adonai Mitchell. So less than ideal, but not a problem and fits with his competition. You made alot of strong points with this post. As for Franklin, he is reminiscent of Hyatt, and thats not a bad thing. Both have top notch downfield speed, both can play outside or in the slot, both are exceptional at downfield tracking and 'high pointing' the ball. The biggest difference is that Franklin is a PRESICE route runner, while Hyatt is not. TBH, id be more than happy with 2 players that bring their skill sets to the field, it doesnt have to be 1 or the other. I agree that Slayton has kind of plateaued, which isnt great, but it IS serviceable. I think this is his last contract year and tbh, he hasnt really done much to warrant a big money deal, which is nice for us, but sucks for him. Pearsall seems good, and I could get on board, depending on where we see him fit. To me, he seems like a slot guy, and that role seems to be filled by Wandale. The more I watch Pearsall, the more I see Amon St Brown in dudes game Fair. A lot of people see "slot guy" with Pearsall, I don't. I'm not overly married to my ideas on this stuff. Whoever the Giants draft I will hope will be great, no matter what I think of them going into the draft. I just get extra excited whenever they draft one of the handful of my favorites in any given draft. It happens sometimes. The 4 mentioned above, the most recent was Dexter Lawrence, before that was Linval Joseph, Justin Tuck, Chris Snee, and Osi Umenyiora. Those are all of my favorites guys that the Giants drafted. My favorites don't always work out in the NFL, but the ones the Giants take all seem to for some reason.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 14, 2024 10:37:45 GMT -5
You made alot of strong points with this post. As for Franklin, he is reminiscent of Hyatt, and thats not a bad thing. Both have top notch downfield speed, both can play outside or in the slot, both are exceptional at downfield tracking and 'high pointing' the ball. The biggest difference is that Franklin is a PRESICE route runner, while Hyatt is not. TBH, id be more than happy with 2 players that bring their skill sets to the field, it doesnt have to be 1 or the other. I agree that Slayton has kind of plateaued, which isnt great, but it IS serviceable. I think this is his last contract year and tbh, he hasnt really done much to warrant a big money deal, which is nice for us, but sucks for him. Pearsall seems good, and I could get on board, depending on where we see him fit. To me, he seems like a slot guy, and that role seems to be filled by Wandale. The more I watch Pearsall, the more I see Amon St Brown in dudes game Fair. A lot of people see "slot guy" with Pearsall, I don't. I'm not overly married to my ideas on this stuff. Whoever the Giants draft I will hope will be great, no matter what I think of them going into the draft. I just get extra excited whenever they draft one of the handful of my favorites in any given draft. It happens sometimes. The 4 mentioned above, the most recent was Dexter Lawrence, before that was Linval Joseph, Justin Tuck, Chris Snee, and Osi Umenyiora. Those are all of my favorites guys that the Giants drafted. My favorites don't always work out in the NFL, but the ones the Giants take all seem to for some reason. Yea, I just dont see Pearsall being able to be that guy on the outside. Sure, he is defitnely sure-handed enough to make those sideline grabs, but he doesnt seem physical enough to succeed on the outside...in my uneducated opinion. I also hope whoever we draft will be great, always have, always will. First and foremost, im a Giants fan over any specific player. I also get extra excited whenever we pick 1 of my favorites, and sometimes, when looking in hindsight, am happy we DONT pick certain players (looking at you Jaelen Raegor and Laquon Treadwell). My most recent 'favorite' was Andrew Thomas, I saw him as the clear cut top OT in his year and it seems like he has lived up to his hype. Some other guys that were 'favorites' of mine that we drafted were Tae Banks, JMS, Jalen Hyatt, Thibs, Beavers, Rodarius Williams, Sexy Dexy, Ximines, and Will Hernandez... As you can see not ALL of the guys I wanted and we picked worked out
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Post by jmike on Apr 15, 2024 8:46:07 GMT -5
Fair. A lot of people see "slot guy" with Pearsall, I don't. I'm not overly married to my ideas on this stuff. Whoever the Giants draft I will hope will be great, no matter what I think of them going into the draft. I just get extra excited whenever they draft one of the handful of my favorites in any given draft. It happens sometimes. The 4 mentioned above, the most recent was Dexter Lawrence, before that was Linval Joseph, Justin Tuck, Chris Snee, and Osi Umenyiora. Those are all of my favorites guys that the Giants drafted. My favorites don't always work out in the NFL, but the ones the Giants take all seem to for some reason. Yea, I just dont see Pearsall being able to be that guy on the outside. Sure, he is defitnely sure-handed enough to make those sideline grabs, but he doesnt seem physical enough to succeed on the outside...in my uneducated opinion. I also hope whoever we draft will be great, always have, always will. First and foremost, im a Giants fan over any specific player. I also get extra excited whenever we pick 1 of my favorites, and sometimes, when looking in hindsight, am happy we DONT pick certain players (looking at you Jaelen Raegor and Laquon Treadwell). My most recent 'favorite' was Andrew Thomas, I saw him as the clear cut top OT in his year and it seems like he has lived up to his hype. Some other guys that were 'favorites' of mine that we drafted were Tae Banks, JMS, Jalen Hyatt, Thibs, Beavers, Rodarius Williams, Sexy Dexy, Ximines, and Will Hernandez... As you can see not ALL of the guys I wanted and we picked worked out It happens, players we are so sure of just don't become what we expect. It is why I never get to married to my ideas on a player and I chuckle when people make absolute statements on players. Things like "can't miss" "generational" "transcendent" or insert superlative here; I find so ridiculous. Makes me think the person must have just started watching the NFL earlier in the day for the first time to make comments like that.
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Post by smitty on Apr 16, 2024 19:33:01 GMT -5
Joe Alt.
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Post by glorydays on Apr 17, 2024 17:33:12 GMT -5
I think Ladd McConkey would become as good a pro as any of those top 3; so imagine trading down, in one or two trades, to early 20s, getting him, plus a 2nd, a third and a second next year. The value at that area of the draft is great, we should also have a choice of one of those great OTs, or CBs, or a great prospect in another position slipping; in that case we could get our WR in the second; someone like Legette.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 18, 2024 7:46:53 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. I've been watching tape of some second tier WRs in this draft and I love this player. id love him if we go QB in the first.
McConkey jumps off the screen to me. His route running is top notch, and he has the speed to do damage after the catch. I think he'd be a day-1 pick if it wasn't for his frame.
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Post by glorydays on Apr 18, 2024 13:25:06 GMT -5
Ladd Mcconkey, to me, is like a Cooper Kupp clone. I've been watching tape of some second tier WRs in this draft and I love this player. id love him if we go QB in the first.
McConkey jumps off the screen to me. His route running is top notch, and he has the speed to do damage after the catch. I think he'd be a day-1 pick if it wasn't for his frame.
I am almost certain he will be gone in the first... If we see how good and under-rated he is, then you could bet that at least some GMs and scouts see it too and will grab the kid earlier than he is generally projected.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 20, 2024 18:13:51 GMT -5
Good fits for what we need at WR who may be available @47 or later Ricky Pearsall (No he isn't a slot only) Xavier Legette Jalen McMillan Jamari Thrash Ja'Lynn Polk Luke McCaffrey Joshua Cephus Watching some Ricky Pearsall today - love the player. Would take him with our second pick, easily. This wide receiver draft is ridiculously deep.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 20, 2024 20:37:54 GMT -5
Good fits for what we need at WR who may be available @47 or later Ricky Pearsall (No he isn't a slot only) Xavier Legette Jalen McMillan Jamari Thrash Ja'Lynn Polk Luke McCaffrey Joshua Cephus Like Pearsall and Polk but don’t think they’ll be there at 47.
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Post by jmike on Apr 21, 2024 7:47:00 GMT -5
Good fits for what we need at WR who may be available @47 or later Ricky Pearsall (No he isn't a slot only) Xavier Legette Jalen McMillan Jamari Thrash Ja'Lynn Polk Luke McCaffrey Joshua Cephus Like Pearsall and Polk but don’t think they’ll be there at 47. Which is why I said "may". With all the WRs in this draft it might be surprising who ends up there because there are a large group bunched together and different teams will have different grades on the players. Pearsall for example is a player that could go anywhere from mid-first to mid-3rd and it would not surprise me. Just depends on how it falls.
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