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Post by Bigjeep on Apr 23, 2024 19:44:23 GMT -5
That's my opinion after looking at things a little deeper! Could you Imagine the Giants trading up and drafting a QB or at the 6th spot after just signing Jones to that ridiculous contract! Could a GM look worse! And we just signed a washed up QB as a Backup! I don't think he has the guts to do it! It will be a OL or a WR! But who's going to get him the ball? Jones?  |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 23, 2024 19:46:59 GMT -5
After the QB suffered a second serious neck injury and tore an ACL?
Yes, I can very much imagine them drafting a QB.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Apr 23, 2024 20:04:49 GMT -5
They are drafting a QB, I just think it's not going to be the one(s) most people think. And its probably not going to be at #6.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 23, 2024 20:09:35 GMT -5
I could imagine it but I doubt it'll happen.
What I can't imagine is passing on an amazing WR to draft JJ McCarthy. Also Drew Lock is 27 and played in 28 games, how is that washed up?
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 23, 2024 20:10:38 GMT -5
They are drafting a QB, I just think it's not going to be the one(s) most people think. And its probably not going to be at #6. I think depending who falls they could go QB in round 2 or 3. But it highly depends who falls and what other players are there. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 23, 2024 20:19:15 GMT -5
I think it's 50-50 we go QB. The WR we get will be a great player. Anyone of the 3 of them. My personal favorite is Odunze.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if we go QB. Were not gonna be a winner with Jones.
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 23, 2024 20:22:44 GMT -5
As deep as we are at QB with Jones, Lock, and Devito it's hard for me to see Joe select a QB.
I could see Joe going mid-round at QB in hopes that he could go younger and cheaper $$$ at the position in the future while rebuilding the roster.
...but it may be tough for Joe to pass on a player that could play now at another position given the swiss cheese roster.
If we could draft Caleb Williams, I would say why not but we aren't in position to do so.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 23, 2024 20:27:18 GMT -5
As deep as we are at QB with Jones, Lock, and Devito it's hard for me to see Joe select a QB. I could see Joe going mid-round at QB in hopes that he could go younger and cheaper $$$ at the position in the future while rebuilding the roster. the Giants don’t even have a starter at the moment. Injury, backup and ? That’s depth to you? Really? |
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 23, 2024 20:58:26 GMT -5
I fully expect us to draft a QB. The only question is when.
While a case can be made at any spot they choose to draft one, it seemingly makes the most sense to continue to build taking the BPA given the state of this team.
No matter what, the idea that we may in fact be in play for a QB in the first round does make it intriguing.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 23, 2024 21:06:24 GMT -5
They are drafting a QB, I just think it's not going to be the one(s) most people think. And its probably not going to be at #6. I agree. Outside of some wild, uncontrollable circumstance, the Giants will have another QB this week. Just a question of who and where. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 23, 2024 21:12:20 GMT -5
With 6 picks I don’t see a QB unless #1.
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 23, 2024 21:25:28 GMT -5
After the QB suffered a second serious neck injury and tore an ACL? Yes, I can very much imagine them drafting a QB. Yet, he's supposed to be ready for day one of the season. If they draft a QB it will be because of the 3 TDs in 6 starts. If Mahomes or Burrow had the same injury history, no chance those teams are drafting a QB. You take a QB because Jones ain't it. It has nothing to do with injuries...if it's injuries, get a better backup. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 23, 2024 21:46:49 GMT -5
They are drafting a QB, I just think it's not going to be the one(s) most people think. And its probably not going to be at #6. Who're you thinking? |
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 23, 2024 21:49:32 GMT -5
They are drafting a QB, I just think it's not going to be the one(s) most people think. And its probably not going to be at #6. I think you're probably right. I think the trade up scenarios are too expensive. It looks like Nabers or Odunze in RD 1 and then who knows. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 23, 2024 22:21:17 GMT -5
As deep as we are at QB with Jones, Lock, and Devito Holy crap. Please make it stop. |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 23, 2024 22:31:47 GMT -5
The bust rate is already high enough with first round QB’s, I really hope they don’t waste a 2nd or 3rd on one unless it’s to move up for Penix or maybe Nix, both who I have my doubts about but possibly worth the gamble.
Like I’ve said though, we’re going to need a QB within the next two years (in all likelihood) and the longer we kick the can down the road the more we’ll have to give up. If people think giving up next years first and some, to move up for Maye is a lot, think of how much more we’ll have to give up next year if we’re picking in the low teens or even around 9th or 10th, especially if the pickings are slim for QB’s.
Those ****ing shitty ass wins against NE and Washington! Grrrrrrr….
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 23, 2024 23:01:02 GMT -5
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 23, 2024 23:24:40 GMT -5
With a take like that I'm surprised he's an ex-GM. He said it makes no sense to pick a QB in round 1 this year and a more impactful player can be picked to help the Giants win this year. He also said that they have Lock to step in if needed, and can look at a QB next year if things don't go as hoped. Exactly what I've been saying. I like this take. |
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 24, 2024 1:01:12 GMT -5
With a take like that I'm surprised he's an ex-GM. He said it makes no sense to pick a QB in round 1 this year and a more impactful player can be picked to help the Giants win this year. He also said that they have Lock to step in if needed, and can look at a QB next year if things don't go as hoped. Exactly what I've been saying. I like this take. Yeah, crazy how good the Lions are without him! Also from the article... Spielman's analysis falls short not just because he failed to address Jones's injury history but also because he didn't touch on Jones's play last season, in which, in six games, the quarterback had arguably two solid quarters of play.Lock is as bad as Jones, he's no saviour. |
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 24, 2024 1:13:12 GMT -5
Here's a great quote from the CBS mock draft, where the Giants take Nabers, after Maye is picked by NE at 3...
While the quarterback room Nabers enters is arguably one of the NFL's worst (Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Tommy DeVito), his skill set doesn't require back-shoulder or tight window pass attempts (Jones' kryptonite). Jones can get the ball to Nabers on RPOs, drag routes and quick-hitting first reads designed to just get it into his hands.
Apparently, $160 million just doesn't buy what it used to?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 24, 2024 4:44:45 GMT -5
After the QB suffered a second serious neck injury and tore an ACL? Yes, I can very much imagine them drafting a QB. Yet we are getting QB crazy here talk of Nix or Penix at 6. Penix with 2 ACLs and a shoulder to boot I think if they don't get the guy the love and have 100% conviction he will be winning post season games a couple years from now they should make the right choice stick and pick a WR or OL. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 24, 2024 5:45:53 GMT -5
At number six, you’re going to get a significant player. Assuming Daniel Jones is healthy, they have to go with him. If he struggles, maybe Drew Lock comes in. . . but they won’t address the quarterback need in the first round this year. You still have to give Daniel Jones a chance, and maybe he can emulate what he did the first year he was under (Brian) Daboll and the success he had to get that kind of contract." assuming, if, maybe 🤔 really aren’t words to lay the foundation for certainty despite claiming “they won’t . . . first round this year” imo |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 24, 2024 6:28:20 GMT -5
I will be rather pissed if we trade up for a qb, and give up another 1st or 2nd round pick (I don't see how we could trade up without that). I'd much prefer that they go with Odunze/Nabers at 6. I'd be fine with Nix or Penix in the 2nd, but again, would not want to give up additional picks to move up, and don't see either of them lasting to 47, so I'd also take a top positional player there. A guy like Rattler comes into play for me in the 3rd round, and Pratt/Taylor/Milton further down.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Apr 24, 2024 6:39:12 GMT -5
They are drafting a QB, I just think it's not going to be the one(s) most people think. And its probably not going to be at #6. Who're you thinking? If I had to guess, Bo Nix or even Spencer Rattler. I don't think Penix is mobile enough for what their offense likes to do. But who knows. I just don't see them trading up for anyone but Daniels |
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Post by inthezone on Apr 24, 2024 6:48:29 GMT -5
The longest 36 hours in history is upon us!
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Post by nygiantfanalways on Apr 24, 2024 8:59:49 GMT -5
After the QB suffered a second serious neck injury and tore an ACL? Yes, I can very much imagine them drafting a QB. Pretty much sums it up. |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 24, 2024 9:05:25 GMT -5
After the QB suffered a second serious neck injury and tore an ACL? Yes, I can very much imagine them drafting a QB. Yet we are getting QB crazy here talk of Nix or Penix at 6. Penix with 2 ACLs and a shoulder to boot I think if they don't get the guy the love and have 100% conviction he will be winning post season games a couple years from now they should make the right choice stick and pick a WR or OL. I don't who's saying at 6. If we miss out on the top-4, the move wold be to trade back or somehow move up from 47 if we wanted a shot at Penix or Nix. Nobody in their right mind takes Penix at 6. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 24, 2024 10:02:37 GMT -5
After the QB suffered a second serious neck injury and tore an ACL? Yes, I can very much imagine them drafting a QB. Yet, he's supposed to be ready for day one of the season. If they draft a QB it will be because of the 3 TDs in 6 starts. If Mahomes or Burrow had the same injury history, no chance those teams are drafting a QB. You take a QB because Jones ain't it. It has nothing to do with injuries...if it's injuries, get a better backup. Who says the QB is suppose to be ready on Day 1 ? He could sit all or most of the year, or start sooner. There's no timetable this season. Next year he starts. Whatever a QB would give us this year is gravy in the sense of experience. Jones injuries are a question if he'll hold up. And it's because Jones best year I believe is 15 TD passes and he can't even reach 4,000 yds passing in a 17 game schedule. That's less than 250 yds per game. Pedestrian at best maybe on the low side of pedestrian and these are his best passing numbers in 5 years. What are we arguing over semantics ? Both are in play that's why we have a backup Lock with some playing experience. "Jones ain't it" and his injuries are a question if he holds up. He's missed time 3 of his 5 years. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 24, 2024 12:11:27 GMT -5
Yet we are getting QB crazy here talk of Nix or Penix at 6. Penix with 2 ACLs and a shoulder to boot I think if they don't get the guy the love and have 100% conviction he will be winning post season games a couple years from now they should make the right choice stick and pick a WR or OL. I don't who's saying at 6. If we miss out on the top-4, the move wold be to trade back or somehow move up from 47 if we wanted a shot at Penix or Nix. Nobody in their right mind takes Penix at 6. I wouldn't take either before 47 where we pick in RD 2 |
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