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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 25, 2024 13:35:46 GMT -5
Anyone guess who the reserved party would be?
One thing that makes me excited about the potential WR pick at #6 is it will provide much needed proof that Jones will still be bad with an elite weapon(s). Its one way to prove some folks in your FO are morons, just not ideal from an approach perspective.
Vikings have less valuable assets but more cohesion in who they want.
Should be a interesting evening!
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Post by imgrate on Apr 25, 2024 13:49:47 GMT -5
Anyone guess who the reserved party would be? One thing that makes me excited about the potential WR pick at #6 is it will provide much needed proof that Jones will still be bad with an elite weapon(s). Its one way to prove some folks in your FO are morons, just not ideal from an approach perspective. Vikings have less valuable assets but more cohesion in who they want. Should be a interesting evening! I mean, a couple months ago there was the story that dabs wanted wr while schoen wanted qb.. who the hell knows
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Post by mendy on Apr 25, 2024 13:51:01 GMT -5
Seriously, so much BS right now, no one cares.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 25, 2024 13:53:06 GMT -5
Almost over....
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Post by SG88 on Apr 25, 2024 14:01:16 GMT -5
Seriously, so much BS right now, no one cares. For real man. I could go find something totally contrary from another beat writer. The only truth about all of this is that no one knows shit.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 25, 2024 14:09:07 GMT -5
The points been made before, everyone knew we wanted Devonta Smith and we got screwed (not a smith fan so I don’t really mind that now).
I think teams know we want a WR, a QB, or we could trade down, but they have literally no idea what we’re going to do.
For what it’s worth, that’s been really well handled.
T minus 5 hours and counting. I will be holding my breath when Roger steps to the podium for #3. That’s going to be the first big moment of the night.
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Post by te88 on Apr 25, 2024 14:11:39 GMT -5
Wellington also had to be convinced day of/day before to move on from Kerry Collins.
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Post by mendy on Apr 25, 2024 14:11:48 GMT -5
......not soon enough!
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 25, 2024 14:15:01 GMT -5
I find Vacchiano to not be as clued in as he was before he was replaced at the Daily News by Pat the Rat.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 25, 2024 14:16:45 GMT -5
Anyone guess who the reserved party would be? One thing that makes me excited about the potential WR pick at #6 is it will provide much needed proof that Jones will still be bad with an elite weapon(s). Its one way to prove some folks in your FO are morons, just not ideal from an approach perspective. Vikings have less valuable assets but more cohesion in who they want. Should be a interesting evening! I suppose this is a stupid question, but there is absolutely nothing inside you that would be open to the potential that an elite receiver (along with other acquisitions / players including Jones correcting their issues / coaching changes) turns things around for Jones and the offense? The assumption then being that our team becomes competitive much sooner, that position finally being settled, and they can move on to the next step of the team being a contender? Seems our misery and the enjoyment of rubbing a few noses in dog shit is more important than what you should be here for.
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Post by mendy on Apr 25, 2024 14:20:30 GMT -5
Seriously, so much BS right now, no one cares. For real man. I could go find something totally contrary from another beat writer. The only truth about all of this is that no one knows shit. Yup, I mean there have been so many mocks from so many people and they have done multiple mocks to cover every scenario and in the end it's all a guess. So many with inside source's ,I swear that many people don't work for the Giants and after the pick everyone will be saying see "I told you". I trust Schoen whatever he does is fine by me, might not be my choice but he is in charge.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2024 14:29:17 GMT -5
I do not believe there is anyone in the Giants organization who is still that committed to building with Jones. I can understand not wanting to give up excessive assets, but that's not how Ralph is presenting it.
Even if they still believed in is ability, the durability concerns couldn't possibly be ignored.
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 25, 2024 14:29:24 GMT -5
I find Vacchiano to not be as clued in as he was before he was replaced at the Daily News by Pat the Rat. They needed a more modern style reporter who covered the team from the perspective of his feelings about things not someone that just reported what he saw. The internet does not care about that.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 25, 2024 14:36:52 GMT -5
Anyone guess who the reserved party would be? One thing that makes me excited about the potential WR pick at #6 is it will provide much needed proof that Jones will still be bad with an elite weapon(s). Its one way to prove some folks in your FO are morons, just not ideal from an approach perspective. Vikings have less valuable assets but more cohesion in who they want. Should be a interesting evening! I suppose this is a stupid question, but there is absolutely nothing inside you that would be open to the potential that an elite receiver (along with other acquisitions / players including Jones correcting their issues / coaching changes) turns things around for Jones and the offense? The assumption then being that our team becomes competitive much sooner, that position finally being settled, and they can move on to the next step of the team being a contender? Seems our misery and the enjoyment of rubbing a few noses in dog shit is more important than what you should be here for. nah not stupid at all. I would be very happy with either Nabers/Odunze, they're both prenominal prospects. To me? i look at scenarios that I think will help the Giants build a championship team in 3-5 years. Knowing a young QB takes time to develop, I believe we are in a unique position to draft one. Otherwise, like Minnesota right now, we will always be on the outside looking in. We're even on the outside lookin in, at #6! Without a real QB, the odds of a team winning the SB is very, very low. Im not a big believer of the "build the team, then find a QB, approach", why? no real history of success.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2024 14:37:46 GMT -5
Anyone guess who the reserved party would be? One thing that makes me excited about the potential WR pick at #6 is it will provide much needed proof that Jones will still be bad with an elite weapon(s). Its one way to prove some folks in your FO are morons, just not ideal from an approach perspective. Vikings have less valuable assets but more cohesion in who they want. Should be a interesting evening! I suppose this is a stupid question, but there is absolutely nothing inside you that would be open to the potential that an elite receiver (along with other acquisitions / players including Jones correcting their issues / coaching changes) turns things around for Jones and the offense? The assumption then being that our team becomes competitive much sooner, that position finally being settled, and they can move on to the next step of the team being a contender? Seems our misery and the enjoyment of rubbing a few noses in dog shit is more important than what you should be here for. If it weren't for the injuries last year, I would say you have a point. Drafting Maye doesn't mean Jones is out in the short term. So you're still giving him that shot. And even a chance to still upgrade at WR.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 25, 2024 14:49:14 GMT -5
I suppose this is a stupid question, but there is absolutely nothing inside you that would be open to the potential that an elite receiver (along with other acquisitions / players including Jones correcting their issues / coaching changes) turns things around for Jones and the offense? The assumption then being that our team becomes competitive much sooner, that position finally being settled, and they can move on to the next step of the team being a contender? Seems our misery and the enjoyment of rubbing a few noses in dog shit is more important than what you should be here for. nah not stupid at all. I would be very happy with either Nabers/Odunze, they're both prenominal prospects. To me? i look at scenarios that I think will help the Giants build a championship team in 3-5 years. Knowing a young QB takes time to develop, I believe we are in a unique position to draft one. Otherwise, like Minnesota right now, we will always be on the outside looking in. We're even on the outside lookin in, at #6! Without a real QB, the odds of a team winning the SB is very, very low. Im not a big believer of the "build the team, then find a QB, approach", why? no real history of success. Well, that's a cordial response to my accusation. I've said before that I respect your football knowledge and can rarely disagree. Just that second sentence sounded a bit giddy over potential failure in a key position.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 25, 2024 14:55:18 GMT -5
I suppose this is a stupid question, but there is absolutely nothing inside you that would be open to the potential that an elite receiver (along with other acquisitions / players including Jones correcting their issues / coaching changes) turns things around for Jones and the offense? The assumption then being that our team becomes competitive much sooner, that position finally being settled, and they can move on to the next step of the team being a contender? Seems our misery and the enjoyment of rubbing a few noses in dog shit is more important than what you should be here for. If it weren't for the injuries last year, I would say you have a point. Drafting Maye doesn't mean Jones is out in the short term. So you're still giving him that shot. And even a chance to still upgrade at WR. I'm not blind to all the issues with Jones, but as long as he's on the team I have to hold out some hope things turn around for him.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 25, 2024 16:23:26 GMT -5
If it weren't for the injuries last year, I would say you have a point. Drafting Maye doesn't mean Jones is out in the short term. So you're still giving him that shot. And even a chance to still upgrade at WR. I'm not blind to all the issues with Jones, but as long as he's on the team I have to hold out some hope things turn around for him.I agree, and I do as well. I'm not of the belief he's a bad QB based on 5 games where everything broke down. And clearly the Giants have faith too. Again, any success for 2025 is in Daniel's hands.
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