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Post by Analyst on Apr 26, 2024 7:24:18 GMT -5
DJ has no more excuses. I don't think there is a qb in the league right now that would not love the receivers we have right now. So either DJ is going to earn that huge contract, or he can sit on the sidelines earing 40 mil a year to pick his nose. End of story! Yeah I said that last year. We got him weapons last year. The excuse this year will be "Well he doesn't have Saquon anymore". DJs splits with and without Barkley are ugly. Or continue blaming the OL.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 26, 2024 7:24:56 GMT -5
So, Nabers number was #8 in college.
I wonder if he takes that from Jones...
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 26, 2024 7:32:32 GMT -5
DJ has no more excuses. I don't think there is a qb in the league right now that would not love the receivers we have right now. So either DJ is going to earn that huge contract, or he can sit on the sidelines earing 40 mil a year to pick his nose. End of story! Yeah I said that last year. We got him weapons last year. The excuse this year will be "Well he doesn't have Saquon anymore". DJs splits with and without Barkley are ugly. Or continue blaming the OL. "he's still recovering. We won't know what we have until year 7..."
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Post by GameTime on Apr 26, 2024 7:39:34 GMT -5
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Post by Analyst on Apr 26, 2024 7:43:46 GMT -5
Is this the highest we drafted a WR ever?
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 26, 2024 8:11:54 GMT -5
it’s the modern spread concepts on offense, I won’t say WRs are getting smaller but smaller WRs aren’t considered the detriment the used to be. It’ll be interesting to see what Waller’s decision is. I thought he was waiting for the draft. We are set Nabors, Robinson, Hyatt, Slayton, Hodgins, (#6 / R Olszewski) #7-8 fight for your spots. If we can block (Neal is the wild card) Nabors and Slayton on outs Hyatt and Hodgins on goes. Robinson on a slant. We should move the chains. Our next move (logical) should be to tighten up the secondary. There’s varied skills too. Until Hyatt learns other routes he’s that go as you said, Nabers is the modern WR1, he can run the whole tree and I love how he can make plays down the sideline, Slayton isn’t strong enough to be a full time 1 but he can play that role effectively enough if Nabors is out for a bit, and I think he can have a career season at 2, he’s not going to get a lot of attention on defence. I understand why some fans are furious we didn’t take a QB but I’ll make the same point you did. It’s about the line. If they’re the 16th best line inf the NFL, we’ll score points with whomever we have at QB. We won’t be a superstar offense but if we can average 21 pts instead of 15 we’ll win more than 6 games. This Daboll/Kafka offense is suppose to drive you crazy with mismatches and that efficient (short) movement of the ball that fans complain about until the defence starts over committing to stop it, and then you take the top off. I’m in Buffalo’s market area. That what they do. Screens sweeps slants jets and then they start exploiting those medium depth routes that open up first, and they finish with Diggs or Davis running a proper route to make someone bite and you start getting those quick scores that show up on redzone. But it’s death by 1,000 cuts that creates that.
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Post by idkaname on Apr 26, 2024 8:11:58 GMT -5
DJ has no more excuses. I don't think there is a qb in the league right now that would not love the receivers we have right now. So either DJ is going to earn that huge contract, or he can sit on the sidelines earing 40 mil a year to pick his nose. End of story! Yeah I said that last year. We got him weapons last year. The excuse this year will be "Well he doesn't have Saquon anymore". DJs splits with and without Barkley are ugly. Or continue blaming the OL. and the FO doesn't agree with you so move on
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Post by Merlin on Apr 26, 2024 8:27:59 GMT -5
it’s the modern spread concepts on offense, I won’t say WRs are getting smaller but smaller WRs aren’t considered the detriment the used to be. It’ll be interesting to see what Waller’s decision is. I thought he was waiting for the draft. We are set Nabors, Robinson, Hyatt, Slayton, Hodgins, (#6 / R Olszewski) #7-8 fight for your spots. If we can block (Neal is the wild card) Nabors and Slayton on outs Hyatt and Hodgins on goes. Robinson on a slant. We should move the chains. Our next move (logical) should be to tighten up the secondary. Don't agree we are set. Wan'dale is 5'8 and has to prove he can stay on the field. Hyatt is talented, but raw and far from a sure thing. Slayton & Hodgins may or may not be long term fixtures. This WR class is super talented. Double dipping may be the smarter long term play. Nabors, Coleman, Wan'dale, Hyatt locked in for the next 3 years allowing the cream to rise to the top since odds are at least one of them will bust. Offers the necessary insurance at rookie scale rates. If they all pop the offense is loaded. When time to pay can get good hauls in return. But most important puts who ever is lined up at QB in position to succeed. Can go all in on defense next offseason.
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Post by katcavage75 on Apr 26, 2024 9:04:03 GMT -5
My pick @ #6. I'm excited to see what he can do in the Big Blue uniform.
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Post by katcavage75 on Apr 26, 2024 9:04:31 GMT -5
My pick @ #6. I'm excited to see what he can do in the Big Blue uniform.
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Post by krappdetector on Apr 26, 2024 9:06:54 GMT -5
DJ has no more excuses. I don't think there is a qb in the league right now that would not love the receivers we have right now. So either DJ is going to earn that huge contract, or he can sit on the sidelines earing 40 mil a year to pick his nose. End of story! Yeah I said that last year. We got him weapons last year. The excuse this year will be "Well he doesn't have Saquon anymore". DJs splits with and without Barkley are ugly. Or continue blaming the OL. You forgot "the coaching sucks", "the game is fixed"... and the ever-popular "he is shell-shocked!"
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Post by Analyst on Apr 26, 2024 9:21:07 GMT -5
We are set Nabors, Robinson, Hyatt, Slayton, Hodgins, (#6 / R Olszewski) #7-8 fight for your spots. If we can block (Neal is the wild card) Nabors and Slayton on outs Hyatt and Hodgins on goes. Robinson on a slant. We should move the chains. Our next move (logical) should be to tighten up the secondary. Don't agree we are set. Wan'dale is 5'8 and has to prove he can stay on the field. Hyatt is talented, but raw and far from a sure thing. Slayton & Hodgins may or may not be long term fixtures. This WR class is super talented. Double dipping may be the smarter long term play. Nabors, Coleman, Wan'dale, Hyatt locked in for the next 3 years allowing the cream to rise to the top since odds are at least one of them will bust. Offers the necessary insurance at rookie scale rates. If they all pop the offense is loaded. When time to pay can get good hauls in return. But most important puts who ever is lined up at QB in position to succeed. Can go all in on defense next offseason. I think we are getting close to the Nicks/Cruz/Manningham level of WR talent. Nabers should open up everything out there now as a bonified #1 WR. I wanted George Pickens, but Robinson made me believe in him last year. He is a tough WR with a huge heart. With a good QB he can be a very good weapon. Hyatt, again, there was no reason why he didnt score TDs last year with that deep speed. He also showed me he can run routes. They may not be crispy, like Nabers will be, but it doesnt have to be when he will have the 3rd CB on him. He got open plenty underneath last year. Those 3 are solid options. All 3 can be above average. Hopefully Nabers becomes our AJ Brown or Ceedee Lamb.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 26, 2024 9:31:00 GMT -5
He's good but apparently had character issues. Did Joe schane explain the pick yet? Yes. And at 5:30 they address your concern
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Post by TEM on Apr 26, 2024 9:50:01 GMT -5
We are set Nabors, Robinson, Hyatt, Slayton, Hodgins, (#6 / R Olszewski) #7-8 fight for your spots. If we can block (Neal is the wild card) Nabors and Slayton on outs Hyatt and Hodgins on goes. Robinson on a slant. We should move the chains. Our next move (logical) should be to tighten up the secondary. Don't agree we are set. Wan'dale is 5'8 and has to prove he can stay on the field. Hyatt is talented, but raw and far from a sure thing. Slayton & Hodgins may or may not be long term fixtures. This WR class is super talented. Double dipping may be the smarter long term play. Nabors, Coleman, Wan'dale, Hyatt locked in for the next 3 years allowing the cream to rise to the top since odds are at least one of them will bust. Offers the necessary insurance at rookie scale rates. If they all pop the offense is loaded. When time to pay can get good hauls in return. But most important puts who ever is lined up at QB in position to succeed. Can go all in on defense next offseason. Hyatt and Robinson both looked good at the at the season.
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Post by jaymas on Apr 26, 2024 9:51:13 GMT -5
Nabers has sooooo much young OBJ in him skillet wise, size, and that is incredibly exciting.
OBJ had slightly more natural hands (but he's also one of the best I've ever seen in that regard, so not even a knock on Nabers).
Stay healthy young man, with DJ, we're gonna need you to take a lot slants to the house.
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 26, 2024 9:53:40 GMT -5
Nabers has sooooo much young OBJ in him skillet wise, size, and that is incredibly exciting. OBJ had slightly more natural hands (but he's also one of the best I've ever seen in that regard, so not even a knock on Nabers). Stay healthy young man, with DJ, we're gonna need you to take a lot slants to the house. It's odd how close their measurables are. Almost the same height/weight/speed, and both have absurdly large hands for their size at about 10 inches...bigger than most QBs.
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Post by Merlin on Apr 26, 2024 9:55:25 GMT -5
Don't agree we are set. Wan'dale is 5'8 and has to prove he can stay on the field. Hyatt is talented, but raw and far from a sure thing. Slayton & Hodgins may or may not be long term fixtures. This WR class is super talented. Double dipping may be the smarter long term play. Nabors, Coleman, Wan'dale, Hyatt locked in for the next 3 years allowing the cream to rise to the top since odds are at least one of them will bust. Offers the necessary insurance at rookie scale rates. If they all pop the offense is loaded. When time to pay can get good hauls in return. But most important puts who ever is lined up at QB in position to succeed. Can go all in on defense next offseason. I think we are getting close to the Nicks/Cruz/Manningham level of WR talent. Nabers should open up everything out there now as a bonified #1 WR. I wanted George Pickens, but Robinson made me believe in him last year. He is a tough WR with a huge heart. With a good QB he can be a very good weapon. Hyatt, again, there was no reason why he didnt score TDs last year with that deep speed. He also showed me he can run routes. They may not be crispy, like Nabers will be, but it doesnt have to be when he will have the 3rd CB on him. He got open plenty underneath last year. Those 3 are solid options. All 3 can be above average. Hopefully Nabers becomes our AJ Brown or Ceedee Lamb. They have potential sure. Most teams have players that they feel the same about when it comes to potential. We say the most important position is QB and all the heat goes to the QB. Being overloaded with talent for a QB to operate with has never been a bad thing. After forming that as an actual solidified strength, then work off that core. Sell off an asset here or there once it becomes pricey to round out the team. But always maintaining that as a strength. Weather it be Jones/Lock this year or a QB 1 to 2 years from now who would be landing in a place with seasoned WRs still on rookie contracts for the most part. The money saved from what Slayton is expecting to get compensated(8-10mil?) can go towards other needs while maintaining a strong core of weapons.
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 26, 2024 9:55:49 GMT -5
Thought he had a good initial press conference, put me more at ease with the pick.
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Post by BlueReign on Apr 26, 2024 10:01:41 GMT -5
Lol, so now DJ has a #6 overall WR, an 11th pick in the 2nd round WR, a 10th pick in the 3rd round WR, the 112th overall pick TE and possibly an ex Pro Bowler TE worth a 3rd round pick. None of those even include Slayton. Holy f’in shit, does any other QB have that many WR’s and TE’s drafted that high? Either Jones is going to prove once and for all he isn’t a franchise QB and/or Schoen should be fired. Honest question: what was your preferred pick? If you love McCarthy, that's one thing, but I wouldn't want to take a QB like him just because I don't like Jones.
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Post by vinnie on Apr 26, 2024 10:29:36 GMT -5
Lol, so now DJ has a #6 overall WR, an 11th pick in the 2nd round WR, a 10th pick in the 3rd round WR, the 112th overall pick TE and possibly an ex Pro Bowler TE worth a 3rd round pick. None of those even include Slayton. Holy f’in shit, does any other QB have that many WR’s and TE’s drafted that high? Either Jones is going to prove once and for all he isn’t a franchise QB and/or Schoen should be fired. Honest question: what was your preferred pick? If you love McCarthy, that's one thing, but I wouldn't want to take a QB like him just because I don't like Jones. I honestly wasn’t too sure about any of them, Daniels I guess then Penix, but that’s all irrelevant. I find it hard to believe that none of those QB’s (other than Daniels, Williams and maybe Maye) will all be busts. I’m just an armchair fan/GM, I don’t have a group of professional scouts that spend countless hours trying to figure this out, it’s up to them to find the right QB and as I said, I find it hard to believe that there wasn’t one there for us. What I don’t find hard to believe is that we’ll be in the same position next year as far as needing a QB and we’ll even even fewer options to chose from and will have to settle or give up a lot more to get one we like which is still a gamble.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 26, 2024 10:34:59 GMT -5
We are set Nabors, Robinson, Hyatt, Slayton, Hodgins, (#6 / R Olszewski) #7-8 fight for your spots. If we can block (Neal is the wild card) Nabors and Slayton on outs Hyatt and Hodgins on goes. Robinson on a slant. We should move the chains. Our next move (logical) should be to tighten up the secondary. Don't agree we are set. Wan'dale is 5'8 and has to prove he can stay on the field. Hyatt is talented, but raw and far from a sure thing. Slayton & Hodgins may or may not be long term fixtures. This WR class is super talented. Double dipping may be the smarter long term play. Nabors, Coleman, Wan'dale, Hyatt locked in for the next 3 years allowing the cream to rise to the top since odds are at least one of them will bust. Offers the necessary insurance at rookie scale rates. If they all pop the offense is loaded. When time to pay can get good hauls in return. But most important puts who ever is lined up at QB in position to succeed. Can go all in on defense next offseason. Robinson had one injury that he shows no signs of. He's been incredibly productive, 82 career catches with only 11 starts. Nabers, Slayton, Robinson are going to be a WR corps teams have to worry about. Maybe a receiving TE. I wouldn't touch another WR in this draft.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 26, 2024 10:41:14 GMT -5
DJ has no more excuses. I don't think there is a qb in the league right now that would not love the receivers we have right now. So either DJ is going to earn that huge contract, or he can sit on the sidelines earing 40 mil a year to pick his nose. End of story! WR #1: Nabers WR #2: Hyatt WR #3: Wan Dale WR #4: Slayton We might have the best "separating" WR corp out there. No more excuses. I want to see this franchise production from Daniel Jones that we took from him by not giving him weapons.
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Post by Merlin on Apr 26, 2024 10:41:26 GMT -5
Don't agree we are set. Wan'dale is 5'8 and has to prove he can stay on the field. Hyatt is talented, but raw and far from a sure thing. Slayton & Hodgins may or may not be long term fixtures. This WR class is super talented. Double dipping may be the smarter long term play. Nabors, Coleman, Wan'dale, Hyatt locked in for the next 3 years allowing the cream to rise to the top since odds are at least one of them will bust. Offers the necessary insurance at rookie scale rates. If they all pop the offense is loaded. When time to pay can get good hauls in return. But most important puts who ever is lined up at QB in position to succeed. Can go all in on defense next offseason. Hyatt and Robinson both looked good at the at the season. Overload the weapons. 4 deep on rookie scale contracts. Go RB in the 3rd Nabers: Alpha Slayton/Hyatt: Deep threat Wan'dale: Slot YAC Coleman/Hodgins: Physical RB 2 deep: Singletary/Benson Coleman, Hyatt, Slayton would get weaker CB draws.
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Post by Merlin on Apr 26, 2024 10:43:51 GMT -5
Don't agree we are set. Wan'dale is 5'8 and has to prove he can stay on the field. Hyatt is talented, but raw and far from a sure thing. Slayton & Hodgins may or may not be long term fixtures. This WR class is super talented. Double dipping may be the smarter long term play. Nabors, Coleman, Wan'dale, Hyatt locked in for the next 3 years allowing the cream to rise to the top since odds are at least one of them will bust. Offers the necessary insurance at rookie scale rates. If they all pop the offense is loaded. When time to pay can get good hauls in return. But most important puts who ever is lined up at QB in position to succeed. Can go all in on defense next offseason. Robinson had one injury that he shows no signs of. He's been incredibly productive, 82 career catches with only 11 starts. Nabers, Slayton, Robinson are going to be a WR corps teams have to worry about. Maybe a receiving TE. I wouldn't touch another WR in this draft. Wouldn't have a problem with an OL or TE Sanders. Just stay in offense
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 26, 2024 11:23:55 GMT -5
DJ has no more excuses. I don't think there is a qb in the league right now that would not love the receivers we have right now. So either DJ is going to earn that huge contract, or he can sit on the sidelines earing 40 mil a year to pick his nose. End of story! WR #1: Nabers WR #2: Hyatt WR #3: Wan Dale WR #4: Slayton We might have the best "separating" WR corp out there. No more excuses. I want to see this franchise production from Daniel Jones that we took from him by not giving him weapons. One route Hyatt has to earn his bones and get some branches on his route tree before he gets the two spot. It’s Slaytons job to lose as he’s not giving it up without a fight.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 26, 2024 11:26:04 GMT -5
WR #1: Nabers WR #2: Hyatt WR #3: Wan Dale WR #4: Slayton We might have the best "separating" WR corp out there. No more excuses. I want to see this franchise production from Daniel Jones that we took from him by not giving him weapons. One route Hyatt has to earn his bones and get some branches on his route tree before he gets the two spot. It’s Slaytons job to lose as he’s not giving it up without a fight. agreed, i actually like Slayton more than most. Hes a NFL WR#2 for sure. Can stretch the field against any defence. im not sure he will be a Giant in 2024.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 26, 2024 11:30:58 GMT -5
One route Hyatt has to earn his bones and get some branches on his route tree before he gets the two spot. It’s Slaytons job to lose as he’s not giving it up without a fight. agreed, i actually like Slayton more than most. Hes a NFL WR#2 for sure. Can stretch the field against any defence. im not sure he will be a Giant in 2024. I’ve buried him.. Damn near cut him in half. And this mother****** wouldn’t stay dead. He just puts his head down and competes. Him and Nabers will compliment one another.
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Post by fredfreddy on Apr 26, 2024 12:22:20 GMT -5
Lol, so now DJ has a #6 overall WR, an 11th pick in the 2nd round WR, a 10th pick in the 3rd round WR, the 112th overall pick TE and possibly an ex Pro Bowler TE worth a 3rd round pick. None of those even include Slayton. Holy f’in shit, does any other QB have that many WR’s and TE’s drafted that high? Either Jones is going to prove once and for all he isn’t a franchise QB and/or Schoen should be fired. But he doesnt have a RB now with Saquon gone. I think Devin Singletary is going to surprise a lot people. I loved SB but I do not think we are going to miss him. Just my opinion.
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Post by jaymas on Apr 26, 2024 12:24:56 GMT -5
Nabers has sooooo much young OBJ in him skillet wise, size, and that is incredibly exciting. OBJ had slightly more natural hands (but he's also one of the best I've ever seen in that regard, so not even a knock on Nabers). Stay healthy young man, with DJ, we're gonna need you to take a lot slants to the house. It's odd how close their measurables are. Almost the same height/weight/speed, and both have absurdly large hands for their size at about 10 inches...bigger than most QBs. For sure! To me they are little different with the ball in their hands where Nabers has a bit of a Diggs thing going. But yeah, when I watch him at LSU I see so much young OBJ
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Post by vinnie on Apr 26, 2024 12:29:33 GMT -5
Hopefully Nabers is as good as OBJ, how many playoff games did we win with Odiva? I forgot. I’m sure that will rustle some jimmies but unfortunately I have to go play with dead people and won’t be able to respond until this evening. Have a nice day everyone!
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