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Post by PennState1 on Apr 27, 2024 23:04:29 GMT -5
The New York Giants kicked off their undrafted free agent class with a UCLA defensive back that was a turnover machine in 2023.
“Former UCLA defensive back Alex Johnson will sign with the New York Giants,” relayed UCLA reporter James H. Williams after the conclusion of the NFL draft. The Talkin’ Giants podcast quickly added that Johnson registered five interceptions in 2023 during a repost.
This news was also confirmed by KPRC2 NFL insider Aaron Wilson, who provided key context on this UDFA addition. “UCLA DB Alex Johnson signed with [the] Giants for $115,000 total guaranteed per a source,” he informed.
To explain, most undrafted prospects aren’t guaranteed any money, let alone a six-figure agreement. Those that do get paid are typically bid on by multiple suitors.
Johnson falls under that description, and the Giants must have really wanted him if they shelled out $115,000 just to get him in the building.
New Giants DB Alex Johnson Led Pac-12 in Interceptions Amid Breakout 2023 Campaign
As mentioned in the open, Johnson’s 2023 campaign included five interceptions and a fumble recovery for a touchdown against Caleb Williams’ USC Trojans (pictured above). This was easily a career season for the 6-foot-1, 190-pound defensive back.
At his pro day, Johnson ran a 4.48-second 40-yard dash with a 37-inch vertical and a 10-foot and seven inches broad jump. He ran a 7.00-second three-cone drill.
That interception total was also tied for sixth highest in the entire NCAA and “was the most by a Bruin player since 2009.”
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Post by Roswell on Apr 28, 2024 5:03:19 GMT -5
I hope you’re right and the 32 teams that passed on him 7 times a piece are wrong.
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Apr 28, 2024 7:05:22 GMT -5
They also paid a good contract to sign ford-Wheaton last year
and he didn’t seem to show much before his injury.
Hope the kid pans out but i have way more faith in the guys already on our roster.
I really think the addition of Brian Burns will make the biggest impact on our secondary out of anything else we’ve done this offseason.
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Post by bavarobeast on Apr 28, 2024 7:13:06 GMT -5
A turnover machine that 32 teams passed on all 7 rounds. Maybe he’s an apple turnover machine.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 28, 2024 10:01:40 GMT -5
big money for the kid peanuts for an NFL franchise worth the shot at developing him Phillips was tough physical CB in college also there will be competition Philips and McCloud have inside outside flex so does Flott if he finds a spot on the practice squad great.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 28, 2024 10:22:32 GMT -5
Thought this was about Andru Phillips. He is not a turnover machine but he looks sticky in coverage. Sometimes gems are found undrafted, time will tell.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 28, 2024 10:32:22 GMT -5
bring em on......
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Post by GameTime on Apr 28, 2024 10:35:02 GMT -5
gems are found every year in the NFL. Hopefully this can be one for the NYGs.
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Post by TEM on Apr 28, 2024 10:38:45 GMT -5
I had 500 plyers ranked. He did not make the cut. 101 were DBs (Corner+ Safety) One 5th of the entire draft pool. I did my diligence. IDK. DBs are either have it or they do not. Most don't. There were 36 Corners taken and 19 corners taken. A total of 55 DBs. Believe me if was in any form of good. He would have been drafted.
Sorry to be the party pooper.
We should have snatched Beau Brade ahead of the Ravens as an UDFA. I had him ranked 129 and 23rd best DB.
My postmortem had 38 players go undrafted in the top 257 out of the 500 players I had ranked. Only 2 in the top 150 went undrafted. Not too bad. Last year I had close to 80 go undrafted. My stats agistments are getting better.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 28, 2024 11:06:33 GMT -5
They also paid a good contract to sign ford-Wheaton last year and he didn’t seem to show much before his injury. Hope the kid pans out but i have way more faith in the guys already on our roster. I really think the addition of Brian Burns will make the biggest impact on our secondary out of anything else we’ve done this offseason. Bryce Ford-Wheaton was playing his way into a roster spot before the injury. Schoen has done well in the back of the draft. Last years 6ths and 7ths all made the team. Beavers was playing well the previous year before the injury. Devito wasn't a train wreck. |
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Post by PennState1 on Apr 28, 2024 11:07:34 GMT -5
I hope you’re right and the 32 teams that passed on him 7 times a piece are wrong. Hey bud, I’m just passing the info along. Not my opinion, just what I read. Dont know why he wasn’t drafted but it appears he had a great year and made some very big plays in big games (USC game against the top QB). |
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Post by McCherry on Apr 28, 2024 11:13:40 GMT -5
Thought this was about Andru Phillips. He is not a turnover machine but he looks sticky in coverage. Sometimes gems are found undrafted, time will tell. Right. And you don't draft CB's based on the interceptions. You draft them for everything else. |
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 28, 2024 11:17:33 GMT -5
They also paid a good contract to sign ford-Wheaton last year and he didn’t seem to show much before his injury. Hope the kid pans out but i have way more faith in the guys already on our roster. I really think the addition of Brian Burns will make the biggest impact on our secondary out of anything else we’ve done this offseason. Bryce Ford-Wheaton was playing his way into a roster spot before the injury. Schoen has done well in the back of the draft. Last years 6ths and 7ths all made the team. Beavers was playing well the previous year before the injury. Devito wasn't a train wreck. You exaggerate.. He was doing that against used car salesmen.. and the Al Bundys of the preseason. It’s the one beaver shot no one wants to see again. |
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Post by TEM on Apr 28, 2024 11:26:33 GMT -5
Bryce Ford-Wheaton was playing his way into a roster spot before the injury. Schoen has done well in the back of the draft. Last years 6ths and 7ths all made the team. Beavers was playing well the previous year before the injury. Devito wasn't a train wreck. You exaggerate.. He was doing that against used car salesmen.. and the Al Bundys of the preseason. It’s the one beaver shot no one wants to see again. Hold on there. Al Bundy scored 4 TDs in one game. |
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 28, 2024 11:31:47 GMT -5
Who knows. According to the article, it's unusual to give undrafted players guaranteed money, and that they were probably bidding against other teams. So I guess he must have some upside.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 28, 2024 11:40:11 GMT -5
You exaggerate.. He was doing that against used car salesmen.. and the Al Bundys of the preseason. It’s the one beaver shot no one wants to see again. Hold on there. Al Bundy scored 4 TDs in one game. Spare tire Dixon missed that game.. He was in court on a silly manslaughter charge. Some poor running back tried to run him over. All that was left of him was flesh and organs. |
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 28, 2024 11:53:59 GMT -5
The New York Giants kicked off their undrafted free agent class with a UCLA defensive back that was a turnover machine in 2023. “Former UCLA defensive back Alex Johnson will sign with the New York Giants,” relayed UCLA reporter James H. Williams after the conclusion of the NFL draft. The Talkin’ Giants podcast quickly added that Johnson registered five interceptions in 2023 during a repost. This news was also confirmed by KPRC2 NFL insider Aaron Wilson, who provided key context on this UDFA addition. “UCLA DB Alex Johnson signed with [the] Giants for $115,000 total guaranteed per a source,” he informed. To explain, most undrafted prospects aren’t guaranteed any money, let alone a six-figure agreement. Those that do get paid are typically bid on by multiple suitors. Johnson falls under that description, and the Giants must have really wanted him if they shelled out $115,000 just to get him in the building. New Giants DB Alex Johnson Led Pac-12 in Interceptions Amid Breakout 2023 Campaign As mentioned in the open, Johnson’s 2023 campaign included five interceptions and a fumble recovery for a touchdown against Caleb Williams’ USC Trojans (pictured above). This was easily a career season for the 6-foot-1, 190-pound defensive back. At his pro day, Johnson ran a 4.48-second 40-yard dash with a 37-inch vertical and a 10-foot and seven inches broad jump. He ran a 7.00-second three-cone drill. That interception total was also tied for sixth highest in the entire NCAA and “was the most by a Bruin player since 2009.” you may be correct also a good OT |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 28, 2024 12:15:08 GMT -5
I hope you’re right and the 32 teams that passed on him 7 times a piece are wrong. Hey bud, I’m just passing the info along. Not my opinion, just what I read. Dont know why he wasn’t drafted but it appears he had a great year and made some very big plays in big games (USC game against the top QB). How dare you!  |
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Post by PennState1 on Apr 28, 2024 17:06:15 GMT -5
The New York Giants kicked off their undrafted free agent class with a UCLA defensive back that was a turnover machine in 2023. “Former UCLA defensive back Alex Johnson will sign with the New York Giants,” relayed UCLA reporter James H. Williams after the conclusion of the NFL draft. The Talkin’ Giants podcast quickly added that Johnson registered five interceptions in 2023 during a repost. This news was also confirmed by KPRC2 NFL insider Aaron Wilson, who provided key context on this UDFA addition. “UCLA DB Alex Johnson signed with [the] Giants for $115,000 total guaranteed per a source,” he informed. To explain, most undrafted prospects aren’t guaranteed any money, let alone a six-figure agreement. Those that do get paid are typically bid on by multiple suitors. Johnson falls under that description, and the Giants must have really wanted him if they shelled out $115,000 just to get him in the building. New Giants DB Alex Johnson Led Pac-12 in Interceptions Amid Breakout 2023 Campaign As mentioned in the open, Johnson’s 2023 campaign included five interceptions and a fumble recovery for a touchdown against Caleb Williams’ USC Trojans (pictured above). This was easily a career season for the 6-foot-1, 190-pound defensive back. At his pro day, Johnson ran a 4.48-second 40-yard dash with a 37-inch vertical and a 10-foot and seven inches broad jump. He ran a 7.00-second three-cone drill. That interception total was also tied for sixth highest in the entire NCAA and “was the most by a Bruin player since 2009.” you may be correct also a good OT Thanks for the vid |
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 28, 2024 17:10:05 GMT -5
you may be correct also a good OT Thanks for the vid your welcome! 💜🙏 |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 17:22:10 GMT -5
Only 30% of drafted players last more than 2 years in the league.
I can't imagine what the percentage is of UDFA turning into "diamonds"
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Post by TEM on Apr 28, 2024 17:50:51 GMT -5
Only 30% of drafted players last more than 2 years in the league. I can't imagine what the percentage is of UDFA turning into "diamonds" In the cap era The "Diamonds" I could come up with. Tony Romo Kurt Warrner Priest Holmes Wes Welker Antonio Gates Brian Waters Cameron Wake Victor Cruz James Harrison London Fletcher Adam Vinatieri Jeff Feagles When you average 15 per team after the draft over 30 years (the cap era). That is an average of 14,400 UDFA's in the league for that time period. 12 /14,400 = 0.00086 or 0.09% it is 1 out of every 1200. (average) You can get some serviceable players as UDFA. But that "how did this guy go undrafted" player. Is a rare find. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 18:42:48 GMT -5
Only 30% of drafted players last more than 2 years in the league. I can't imagine what the percentage is of UDFA turning into "diamonds" In the cap era The "Diamonds" I could come up with. Tony Romo Kurt Warrner Priest Holmes Wes Welker Antonio Gates Brian Waters Cameron Wake Victor Cruz James Harrison London Fletcher Adam Vinatieri Jeff Feagles When you average 15 per team after the draft over 30 years (the cap era). That is an average of 14,400 UDFA's in the league for that time period. 12 /14,400 = 0.00086 or 0.09% it is 1 out of every 1200. (average) You can get some serviceable players as UDFA. But that "how did this guy go undrafted" player. Is a rare find. Throw in Rod Smith. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Apr 28, 2024 18:52:11 GMT -5
Only 30% of drafted players last more than 2 years in the league. I can't imagine what the percentage is of UDFA turning into "diamonds" In the cap era The "Diamonds" I could come up with. Tony Romo Kurt Warrner Priest Holmes Wes Welker Antonio Gates Brian Waters Cameron Wake Victor Cruz James Harrison London Fletcher Adam Vinatieri Jeff Feagles When you average 15 per team after the draft over 30 years (the cap era). That is an average of 14,400 UDFA's in the league for that time period. 12 /14,400 = 0.00086 or 0.09% it is 1 out of every 1200. (average) You can get some serviceable players as UDFA. But that "how did this guy go undrafted" player. Is a rare find. Wow seriously some great players on that list, you really do never know. |
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 28, 2024 19:08:29 GMT -5
Only 30% of drafted players last more than 2 years in the league. I can't imagine what the percentage is of UDFA turning into "diamonds" In the cap era The "Diamonds" I could come up with. Tony Romo Kurt Warrner Priest Holmes Wes Welker Antonio Gates Brian Waters Cameron Wake Victor Cruz James Harrison London Fletcher Adam Vinatieri Jeff Feagles When you average 15 per team after the draft over 30 years (the cap era). That is an average of 14,400 UDFA's in the league for that time period. 12 /14,400 = 0.00086 or 0.09% it is 1 out of every 1200. (average) You can get some serviceable players as UDFA. But that "how did this guy go undrafted" player. Is a rare find. And the goat was 6th round, right? Obviously not undrafted, but still. Einstein was a patent clerk. How did nobody recognize his genius? It just shows how there's always outliers. Sometimes pretty influential ones. |
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Post by PennState1 on May 1, 2024 7:46:07 GMT -5
Only 30% of drafted players last more than 2 years in the league. I can't imagine what the percentage is of UDFA turning into "diamonds" Im sure it’s extremely low |
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Post by Rangers13 on May 1, 2024 7:56:32 GMT -5
Dottino often returns from Jones beach with a handful of sand he presents to us a possible Diamonds too.
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Post by Fletch842 on May 1, 2024 7:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by giants8493 on May 1, 2024 20:14:52 GMT -5
Why didn't they draft him in round 3?
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