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Post by TEM on May 3, 2024 10:20:47 GMT -5
As I always do. I ran the numbers on first year success / NFL readiness for Rookie WRs The results were intriguing. Link to dataThere were 99 WR taken in the first round since 2000 Not one taken with the first pick. The average (entire first round) success for a rook in his first season:574 yards 3 TD 69 targets 40 catches 53% reception percentage. Top 10 Picks 629 yards 4 TDs 87 targets 46 catches 49% reception percentage The Giants had 3 picks in 1st round since 2000 Odell Beckham Jr. pick 12 Kadarius Toney pick 20 Hakeem Nicks pick 29 The 2 WRs taken with the 6th pick Averaged 987 yards, 7 TDs, 118 targets, 79 catches, 56% reception Here is the cool stuff:5 WRs were awarded Rookie of the year honors. 3 of them from LSUJa'Marr Chase Justin Jefferson Odell Beckham Jr. The top 4 yards producers out of all 99 were also from LSUJa'Marr Chase........1455 Justin Jefferson......1400 Odell Beckham Jr...1305 Michael Clayton......1193 Top 2 TD reception in their rookie from LSUJa'Marr Chase......13 Odell Beckham Jr....12 2 of the top 3 in catches in their rookie year also from LSU2nd Odell Beckham Jr. 3rd Justin Jefferson. Conclusion: LSU produces 1st round NFL ready WRs
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Post by TheAussieGiant on May 3, 2024 23:39:04 GMT -5
I have more faith in Malik to duplicate these numbers than I do Jones or Lock to get him the ball.
I really hope one of them clicks this season and we get to see their best
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Post by giantbob71 on May 4, 2024 0:24:14 GMT -5
As I always do. I ran the numbers on first year success / NFL readiness for Rookie WRs The results were intriguing. Link to dataThere were 99 WR taken in the first round since 2000 Not one taken with the first pick. The average (entire first round) success for a rook in his first season:574 yards 3 TD 69 targets 40 catches 53% reception percentage. Top 10 Picks 629 yards 4 TDs 87 targets 46 catches 49% reception percentage The Giants had 3 picks in 1st round since 2000 Odell Beckham Jr. pick 12 Kadarius Toney pick 20 Hakeem Nicks pick 29 The 2 WRs taken with the 6th pick Averaged 987 yards, 7 TDs, 118 targets, 79 catches, 56% reception Here is the cool stuff:5 WRs were awarded Rookie of the year honors. 3 of them from LSUJa'Marr Chase Justin Jefferson Odell Beckham Jr. The top 4 yards producers out of all 99 were also from LSUJa'Marr Chase........1455 Justin Jefferson......1400 Odell Beckham Jr...1305 Michael Clayton......1193 Top 2 TD reception in their rookie from LSUJa'Marr Chase......13 Odell Beckham Jr....12 2 of the top 3 in catches in their rookie year also from LSU2nd Odell Beckham Jr. 3rd Justin Jefferson. Conclusion: LSU produces 1st round NFL ready WRs QBs of the 4 LSU WRs (yards)... 1. Joe Burrow (HOF talent) 2. Kirk Cousins (Damn good QB) 3. Eli Manning (HOF) 4. Brian Griese and Brad Johnson I'll take the under on Nabers getting 1000 yards. If he's legit, other than him, the Giants have no real scary weapons. Even if he starts out hot, defenses can key on him. If both stay healthy, I'll predict Drake London has a better season than Nabers. London finally has a QB. I'll also predict Nabers to have a Slayton-type year with DJ, Lock, and Devito. 800ish yards and 4-7 TDs.
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Post by te88 on May 4, 2024 6:57:18 GMT -5
No joke, the LSU guys all have tattoos that say “wide receiver type shit”
They take a lot of pride in being the best and holding up the legacy and reputation.
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Post by Analyst on May 4, 2024 7:35:53 GMT -5
LSU and Alabama have put out phenomenal WRs the past couple of decades.
Hopefully Nabers is the next one.
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Post by TEM on May 4, 2024 8:11:33 GMT -5
As I always do. I ran the numbers on first year success / NFL readiness for Rookie WRs The results were intriguing. Link to dataThere were 99 WR taken in the first round since 2000 Not one taken with the first pick. The average (entire first round) success for a rook in his first season:574 yards 3 TD 69 targets 40 catches 53% reception percentage. Top 10 Picks 629 yards 4 TDs 87 targets 46 catches 49% reception percentage The Giants had 3 picks in 1st round since 2000 Odell Beckham Jr. pick 12 Kadarius Toney pick 20 Hakeem Nicks pick 29 The 2 WRs taken with the 6th pick Averaged 987 yards, 7 TDs, 118 targets, 79 catches, 56% reception Here is the cool stuff:5 WRs were awarded Rookie of the year honors. 3 of them from LSUJa'Marr Chase Justin Jefferson Odell Beckham Jr. The top 4 yards producers out of all 99 were also from LSUJa'Marr Chase........1455 Justin Jefferson......1400 Odell Beckham Jr...1305 Michael Clayton......1193 Top 2 TD reception in their rookie from LSUJa'Marr Chase......13 Odell Beckham Jr....12 2 of the top 3 in catches in their rookie year also from LSU2nd Odell Beckham Jr. 3rd Justin Jefferson. Conclusion: LSU produces 1st round NFL ready WRs QBs of the 4 LSU WRs (yards)... 1. Joe Burrow (HOF talent) 2. Kirk Cousins (Damn good QB) 3. Eli Manning (HOF) 4. Brian Griese and Brad Johnson I'll take the under on Nabers getting 1000 yards. If he's legit, other than him, the Giants have no real scary weapons. Even if he starts out hot, defenses can key on him. If both stay healthy, I'll predict Drake London has a better season than Nabers. London finally has a QB. I'll also predict Nabers to have a Slayton-type year with DJ, Lock, and Devito. 800ish yards and 4-7 TDs. I am not sure itis all QB. Or who the QB is. The stats say it wasn't. The route has to be run. The DB has to be beat. The ball has to be caught. Yeah, the WR is a dependent position. At the same time. The QB is starting, so he has the tools. if you looked at the stats, As I did. (that is my hobby) The 6th WR in Yardage was Garrett Wilson in 2022, 1103 yards. What Jet QB was throwing to him? To me the stats suggest if the QB and WR are on the same page (route, catch window, timing,) It works. With rookie 1st round WRs. Statistically it is a little over 50% of the time. And expected. They are inherently green behind the ears. But the stats show LUS is the best School at grooming WRs. (for rookies success) The rest of them there is a learning curve. For me, anything over 900 yards, and 5 TD with a 55% Catch ratio, would be phenomenal. The averages say 575 3 53%. Is what most achieve, Not bad for a rookie either.
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Post by Kruunch on May 4, 2024 8:57:50 GMT -5
There’s something lurking in the treacherous waters of the Bayou besides crocodiles.. That school has spit out wide receivers like an assembly line.
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Post by shocknaweny on May 4, 2024 9:02:50 GMT -5
LSU is receiver U
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Post by Jomo on May 4, 2024 11:30:53 GMT -5
Interesting stuff and thanks for doing this. There are always a few more variables to consider like the quality of the team they played for and of course the QB which was mentioned. I also look at OBJ's position for total yards and recall he started only 11 games that year, playing in 12. That's insane productivity. I wonder how the others in the top 5 would look. Did most play 16 games?
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Post by Roswell on May 4, 2024 11:37:28 GMT -5
QBs of the 4 LSU WRs (yards)... 1. Joe Burrow (HOF talent) 2. Kirk Cousins (Damn good QB) 3. Eli Manning (HOF) 4. Brian Griese and Brad Johnson I'll take the under on Nabers getting 1000 yards. If he's legit, other than him, the Giants have no real scary weapons. Even if he starts out hot, defenses can key on him. If both stay healthy, I'll predict Drake London has a better season than Nabers. London finally has a QB. I'll also predict Nabers to have a Slayton-type year with DJ, Lock, and Devito. 800ish yards and 4-7 TDs. I am not sure itis all QB. Or who the QB is. The stats say it wasn't. The route has to be run. The DB has to be beat. The ball has to be caught. Yeah, the WR is a dependent position. At the same time. The QB is starting, so he has the tools. if you looked at the stats, As I did. (that is my hobby) The 6th WR in Yardage was Garrett Wilson in 2022, 1103 yards. What Jet QB was throwing to him? To me the stats suggest if the QB and WR are on the same page (route, catch window, timing,) It works. With rookie 1st round WRs. Statistically it is a little over 50% of the time. And expected. They are inherently green behind the ears. But the stats show LUS is the best School at grooming WRs. (for rookies success) The rest of them there is a learning curve. For me, anything over 900 yards, and 5 TD with a 55% Catch ratio, would be phenomenal. The averages say 575 3 53%. Is what most achieve, Not bad for a rookie either. TEM If I ever see a Giant lab coat, I’m buying it and sending to your house. Thanks for all these correlated posts. They’re very insightful.
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Post by bluebuddha on May 4, 2024 12:06:26 GMT -5
QBs of the 4 LSU WRs (yards)... 1. Joe Burrow (HOF talent) 2. Kirk Cousins (Damn good QB) 3. Eli Manning (HOF) 4. Brian Griese and Brad Johnson I'll take the under on Nabers getting 1000 yards. If he's legit, other than him, the Giants have no real scary weapons. Even if he starts out hot, defenses can key on him. If both stay healthy, I'll predict Drake London has a better season than Nabers. London finally has a QB. I'll also predict Nabers to have a Slayton-type year with DJ, Lock, and Devito. 800ish yards and 4-7 TDs. I am not sure itis all QB. Or who the QB is. The stats say it wasn't. The route has to be run. The DB has to be beat. The ball has to be caught. Yeah, the WR is a dependent position. At the same time. The QB is starting, so he has the tools. if you looked at the stats, As I did. (that is my hobby) The 6th WR in Yardage was Garrett Wilson in 2022, 1103 yards. What Jet QB was throwing to him? To me the stats suggest if the QB and WR are on the same page (route, catch window, timing,) It works. With rookie 1st round WRs. Statistically it is a little over 50% of the time. And expected. They are inherently green behind the ears. But the stats show LUS is the best School at grooming WRs. (for rookies success) The rest of them there is a learning curve. For me, anything over 900 yards, and 5 TD with a 55% Catch ratio, would be phenomenal. The averages say 575 3 53%. Is what most achieve, Not bad for a rookie either. Good stuff TEM. The Giants haven't had a rookie get over 800 yards recieving since 2018 with Saquon. Last 1000 yard WR was ODB in 2018. The last 5 years I don't think anyone broke 800 yards receiving and even more embarrassed bringing up TD receptions. 3 coaches , 4 offensive coordinators have not been able to get WRs and the Qb on the same page. I sure hope Nabers is the guy to elevate our passing game to atleast an average NFL passing offense. Atleast he can take short passes the distance and we are one of the worst teams in explosive passing plays and with SB gone there goes our remaining explosive plays.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 4, 2024 13:54:30 GMT -5
As I always do. I ran the numbers on first year success / NFL readiness for Rookie WRs The results were intriguing. Link to dataThere were 99 WR taken in the first round since 2000 Not one taken with the first pick. The average (entire first round) success for a rook in his first season:574 yards 3 TD 69 targets 40 catches 53% reception percentage. Top 10 Picks 629 yards 4 TDs 87 targets 46 catches 49% reception percentage The Giants had 3 picks in 1st round since 2000 Odell Beckham Jr. pick 12 Kadarius Toney pick 20 Hakeem Nicks pick 29 The 2 WRs taken with the 6th pick Averaged 987 yards, 7 TDs, 118 targets, 79 catches, 56% reception Here is the cool stuff:5 WRs were awarded Rookie of the year honors. 3 of them from LSUJa'Marr Chase Justin Jefferson Odell Beckham Jr. The top 4 yards producers out of all 99 were also from LSUJa'Marr Chase........1455 Justin Jefferson......1400 Odell Beckham Jr...1305 Michael Clayton......1193 Top 2 TD reception in their rookie from LSUJa'Marr Chase......13 Odell Beckham Jr....12 2 of the top 3 in catches in their rookie year also from LSU2nd Odell Beckham Jr. 3rd Justin Jefferson. Conclusion: LSU produces 1st round NFL ready WRs It is not common practice WRs going in the top 10 from what I have read, this was an unusual class with different shapes and sizes. Tell you what Nabors looks as explosive if not more than all of the LSU kids now we gotta see on the field don't think he is gonna have any issues.
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Post by TEM on May 4, 2024 14:02:33 GMT -5
As I always do. I ran the numbers on first year success / NFL readiness for Rookie WRs The results were intriguing. Link to dataThere were 99 WR taken in the first round since 2000 Not one taken with the first pick. The average (entire first round) success for a rook in his first season:574 yards 3 TD 69 targets 40 catches 53% reception percentage. Top 10 Picks 629 yards 4 TDs 87 targets 46 catches 49% reception percentage The Giants had 3 picks in 1st round since 2000 Odell Beckham Jr. pick 12 Kadarius Toney pick 20 Hakeem Nicks pick 29 The 2 WRs taken with the 6th pick Averaged 987 yards, 7 TDs, 118 targets, 79 catches, 56% reception Here is the cool stuff:5 WRs were awarded Rookie of the year honors. 3 of them from LSUJa'Marr Chase Justin Jefferson Odell Beckham Jr. The top 4 yards producers out of all 99 were also from LSUJa'Marr Chase........1455 Justin Jefferson......1400 Odell Beckham Jr...1305 Michael Clayton......1193 Top 2 TD reception in their rookie from LSUJa'Marr Chase......13 Odell Beckham Jr....12 2 of the top 3 in catches in their rookie year also from LSU2nd Odell Beckham Jr. 3rd Justin Jefferson. Conclusion: LSU produces 1st round NFL ready WRs It is not common practice WRs going in the top 10 from what I have read, this was an unusual class with different shapes and sizes. Tell you what Nabors looks as explosive if not more than all of the LSU kids now we gotta see on the field don't think he is gonna have any issues. 33 were taken in the past 24 Drafts 2000-2023. An average of 4 wide receivers taken top 10 in every 3 draft years. None taken in 18,19 or 20, 3 taken in 17, 2 in 21 and 22. none in 23. It depends on the class.
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Post by Danke Schoen on May 4, 2024 15:37:24 GMT -5
Certain fans: Yeah well if Jones had a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson to throw to he'd be a top QB in the NFL also.
Same fans when Nabers is drafted: WTF?! How is Jones supposed to succeed with no OL?!!? We should have drafted Alt!!!!
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Post by miggs on May 4, 2024 16:45:45 GMT -5
Nice to hear from Schoen that the Giants still have no OL. Tells me the OL must be pretty good.
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Post by moecoastie on May 4, 2024 19:16:04 GMT -5
Great post! Good stuff!
I'm always weary of drafting WRs in the 1st round but LSU is definitely the place to pull from if you had to.
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Post by myronguyton29 on May 4, 2024 19:26:22 GMT -5
yezzirrrr yezzirrrr let's get it let's get it . I said last year I believe there was something special brewing.....
I kinda feel something but right now my mouth is zipped until further notice lol lol...............
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Post by inthezone on May 5, 2024 17:24:07 GMT -5
I am not sure itis all QB. Or who the QB is. The stats say it wasn't. The route has to be run. The DB has to be beat. The ball has to be caught. Yeah, the WR is a dependent position. At the same time. The QB is starting, so he has the tools. if you looked at the stats, As I did. (that is my hobby) The 6th WR in Yardage was Garrett Wilson in 2022, 1103 yards. What Jet QB was throwing to him? To me the stats suggest if the QB and WR are on the same page (route, catch window, timing,) It works. With rookie 1st round WRs. Statistically it is a little over 50% of the time. And expected. They are inherently green behind the ears. But the stats show LUS is the best School at grooming WRs. (for rookies success) The rest of them there is a learning curve. For me, anything over 900 yards, and 5 TD with a 55% Catch ratio, would be phenomenal. The averages say 575 3 53%. Is what most achieve, Not bad for a rookie either. TEM If I ever see a Giant lab coat, I’m buying it and sending to your house. Thanks for all these correlated posts. They’re very insightful. I will always think he's wearing this coat every time I read his responses.
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Post by giantsalmon on May 5, 2024 19:32:21 GMT -5
I'm a naturally optimistic person(thanks Mom) but today I'm feeling even more so. Thanks TEM, after reading your summary I am remembering Bills fans wondering if Josh Allen would EVER throw for 300 yds in a game--the off season before Stephon Diggs was acquired. Adding that WR completely transformed not only Allen but the entire Bills offense. I'm not saying that Jones can overcome becoming shell shocked but now at least Jones or Lock have a shot.
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Post by IrishMike on May 6, 2024 11:07:07 GMT -5
<abbr>I'll wager that Nabers will be someplace between the average yards for a first round WR and the season Jefferson had. </abbr> <abbr> </abbr> <abbr>People can say and think what they want about Jones but we have seen him put up big numbers and sling the ball all over. Consistency is what has killed him. With improved OL play and this fantastic WR corps and Dabs I think we might actually be a really good offense. </abbr> <abbr></abbr>
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Post by jaymas on May 6, 2024 11:22:01 GMT -5
<abbr>I'll wager that Nabers will be someplace between the average yards for a first round WR and the season Jefferson had. </abbr> <abbr> </abbr> <abbr>People can say and think what they want about Jones but we have seen him put up big numbers and sling the ball all over. Consistency is what has killed him. With improved OL play and this fantastic WR corps and Dabs I think we might actually be a really good offense. </abbr> <abbr></abbr> When has Jones out up big numbers outside of his rookie year? Or do you mean a game here and there where he's done that?
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Post by Nick6475 on May 6, 2024 11:40:51 GMT -5
<abbr>I'll wager that Nabers will be someplace between the average yards for a first round WR and the season Jefferson had. </abbr> <abbr> </abbr> <abbr>People can say and think what they want about Jones but we have seen him put up big numbers and sling the ball all over. Consistency is what has killed him. With improved OL play and this fantastic WR corps and Dabs I think we might actually be a really good offense. </abbr> <abbr></abbr> When has Jones out up big numbers outside of his rookie year? Or do you mean a game here and there where he's done that? If you extrapolate the 2nd half of the Cards game to a full season. 4,352 passing yards 1,003 rushing yards 34 passing TDs 17 rushing TDs Luckily, nothing ever goes wrong with extrapolating data from a small sample size!
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Post by jmike on May 6, 2024 14:53:14 GMT -5
For Reference, here are all the 1st round WRs since 2000 with their pick number and college:
2000 4-Peter Warrick Florida State 8-Plaxico Burress Michigan State 10-Travis Taylor Florida 21-Sylvester Morris Jackson State 29-R. Jay Soward USC
2001 8-David Terrell Michigan 9-Koren Robinson NC State 15-Rod Gardner Clemson 16-Santana Moss Miami 25-Freddie Mitchell UCLA 30-Reggie Wayne Miami
2002 13-Donte' Stallworth Tennessee 19-Ashley Lelie Hawaii 20-Javon Walker Florida State
2003 2 Charles Rogers Michigan State 3 Andre Johnson Miami 17 Bryant Johnson Penn State
2004 3 Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals Pittsburgh 7 Roy Williams Lions Texas 9 Reggie Williams Jaguars Washington 13 Lee Evans Bills Wisconsin 15 Michael Clayton Buccaneers Louisiana State 29 Michael Jenkins Falcons Ohio State 31 Rashaun Woods 49ers Oklahoma State
2005 3 Braylon Edwards Browns Michigan 7 Troy Williamson Vikings South Carolina 10 Mike Williams Lions USC 21 Matt Jones Jaguars Arkansas 22 Mark Clayton Ravens Oklahoma 27 Roddy White Falcons Alabama-Birmingham
2006 25 Santonio Holmes Steelers Ohio State
2007 2 Calvin Johnson Lions Georgia Tech 9 Ted Ginn Dolphins Ohio State 23 Dwayne Bowe Chiefs Louisiana State 27 Robert Meachem Saints Tennessee 30 Craig Davis Chargers Louisiana State 32 Anthony Gonzalez Colts Ohio State
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2009 7 Darrius Heyward-Bey Raiders Maryland 10 Michael Crabtree 49ers Texas Tech 19 Jeremy Maclin Eagles Missouri 22 Percy Harvin Vikings Florida 29 Hakeem Nicks Giants North Carolina 30 Kenny Britt Titans Rutgers
2010 22 Demaryius Thomas Broncos Georgia Tech 24 Dez Bryant Cowboys Oklahoma State
2011 4 A.J. Green Bengals Georgia 6 Julio Jones Falcons Alabama 26 Jonathan Baldwin Chiefs Pittsburgh
2012 5 Justin Blackmon Jaguars Oklahoma State 13 Michael Floyd Cardinals Notre Dame 20 Kendall Wright Titans Baylor 30 A.J. Jenkins 49ers Illinois
2013 8 Tavon Austin Rams West Virginia 27 DeAndre Hopkins Texans Clemson 29 Cordarrelle Patterson Vikings Tennessee
2014 4 Sammy Watkins Bills Clemson 7 Mike Evans Buccaneers Texas A&M 12 Odell Beckham Giants Louisiana State 20 Brandin Cooks Saints Oregon State 28 Kelvin Benjamin Panthers Florida State
2015 4 Amari Cooper Raiders Alabama 7 Kevin White Bears West Virginia 14 DeVante Parker Dolphins Louisville 20 Nelson Agholor Eagles USC 26 Breshad Perriman Ravens Central Florida 29 Phillip Dorsett Colts Miami (FL)
2016 15 Corey Coleman Browns Baylor 21 Will Fuller Texans Notre Dame 22 Josh Doctson Redskins Texas Christian 23 Laquon Treadwell Vikings Mississippi
2017 5 Corey Davis Titans Western Michigan 7 Mike Williams Chargers Clemson 9 John Ross Bengals Washington
2018 24 D.J. Moore Panthers Maryland 26 Calvin Ridley Falcons Alabama
2019 25 Marquise Brown Ravens Oklahoma 32 N'Keal Harry Patriots Arizona State
2020 12 Henry Ruggs Raiders Alabama 15 Jerry Jeudy Broncos Alabama 17 CeeDee Lamb Cowboys Oklahoma 21 Jalen Reagor Eagles Texas Christian 22 Justin Jefferson Vikings Louisiana State 25 Brandon Aiyuk 49ers Arizona State
2021 5 Ja'Marr Chase Bengals Louisiana State 6 Jaylen Waddle Dolphins Alabama 10 DeVonta Smith Eagles Alabama 20 Kadarius Toney Giants Florida 27 Rashod Bateman Ravens Minnesota
2022 8 Drake London Falcons USC 10 Garrett Wilson Jets Ohio State 11 Chris Olave Saints Ohio State 12 Jameson Williams Lions Alabama 16 Jahan Dotson Commanders Penn State 18 Treylon Burks Titans Arkansas
2023 20 Jaxon Smith-Njigba Seahawks Ohio State 21 Quentin Johnston Chargers Texas Christian 22 Zay Flowers Ravens Boston College 23 Jordan Addison Vikings USC
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Post by IrishMike on May 6, 2024 15:14:32 GMT -5
<abbr>I'll wager that Nabers will be someplace between the average yards for a first round WR and the season Jefferson had. </abbr> <abbr> </abbr> <abbr>People can say and think what they want about Jones but we have seen him put up big numbers and sling the ball all over. Consistency is what has killed him. With improved OL play and this fantastic WR corps and Dabs I think we might actually be a really good offense. </abbr> <abbr></abbr> When has Jones out up big numbers outside of his rookie year? Or do you mean a game here and there where he's done that? Wasn't my intent to make this about Jones. We've had this discussion over and over on this forum no need to have it again.
Bottom line is Nabers is an incredible talent and adding him to Robinson and Hyatt will make a great WR group.
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Post by jaymas on May 6, 2024 15:39:18 GMT -5
When has Jones out up big numbers outside of his rookie year? Or do you mean a game here and there where he's done that? Wasn't my intent to make this about Jones. We've had this discussion over and over on this forum no need to have it again.
Bottom line is Nabers is an incredible talent and adding him to Robinson and Hyatt will make a great WR group.
Agree with your last sentence wholeheartedily. Having a hard time believing "you didn't intend to make it about Jones" when 3/4 of your post was: "People can say and think what they want about Jones but we have seen him put up big numbers and sling the ball all over. Consistency is what has killed him."
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Post by Rangers13 on May 6, 2024 16:52:04 GMT -5
Duke isn’t known much for QB besides Sonny Jurgensen whose stats in a running league blow out Dave Brown and Daniel Jones’ passing league No excuses for Jones. Throw for at least 30 TDs
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Post by IrishMike on May 6, 2024 18:25:05 GMT -5
Wasn't my intent to make this about Jones. We've had this discussion over and over on this forum no need to have it again.
Bottom line is Nabers is an incredible talent and adding him to Robinson and Hyatt will make a great WR group.
Agree with your last sentence wholeheartedily. Having a hard time believing "you didn't intend to make it about Jones" when 3/4 of your post was: "People can say and think what they want about Jones but we have seen him put up big numbers and sling the ball all over. Consistency is what has killed him."Wasn't my intent to make it about Jones at all. I think we all know where each person on the board stands about it. I think Nabers is talented enough to have amazing success with Jones or Lock or any other QB throwing the ball. That's all I meant. (on a side note, why is the so creepy)
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