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Post by TCHOF on Oct 21, 2018 9:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 21, 2018 9:29:01 GMT -5
Without Herbert this is a terrible QB class.
Also, a terrible OT class.
Terrific ....
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Post by TEM on Oct 21, 2018 9:36:28 GMT -5
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Post by bizcliz on Oct 21, 2018 10:18:43 GMT -5
Bosa time
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Post by lasion2 on Oct 21, 2018 10:26:17 GMT -5
Perfect.
Bosa or Williams.
Play lauletta. If we are terrible again, which is very likely. We get Herbert in 2020, along with a bevy of mid round picks for JJ, Vernon, Ellison (which is why we most likely will be terrible, because all should be traded or cut in the next 10 months)
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 22, 2018 12:12:18 GMT -5
Id be fine with.....
1. trading down, yea we all hope for it since we have alot of holes to fill
2. draft edge rusher nick bosa, and cut ov
3. draft dt ed oliver, move tomlinson to nt, and unfortunatley cut snacks
4. draft cb greedy williams and cut jackrabbit
5. draft lb devin white, who people are calling the most complete lb prospect since ray lewis
6. draft ot jonah williams, start him at rt and move him to lt when we can cut solder in a few yrs
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 22, 2018 12:13:47 GMT -5
Id be fine with..... 1. trading down, yea we all hope for it since we have alot of holes to fill 2. draft edge rusher nick bosa, and cut ov 3. draft dt ed oliver, move tomlinson to nt, and unfortunatley cut snacks 4. draft cb greedy williams and cut jackrabbit 5. draft lb devin white, who people are calling the most complete lb prospect since ray lewis 6. draft ot jonah williams, start him at rt and move him to lt when we can cut solder in a few yrs Are we just going to run 100% Wildcat? |
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 22, 2018 12:19:21 GMT -5
Id be fine with..... 1. trading down, yea we all hope for it since we have alot of holes to fill 2. draft edge rusher nick bosa, and cut ov 3. draft dt ed oliver, move tomlinson to nt, and unfortunatley cut snacks 4. draft cb greedy williams and cut jackrabbit 5. draft lb devin white, who people are calling the most complete lb prospect since ray lewis 6. draft ot jonah williams, start him at rt and move him to lt when we can cut solder in a few yrs Are we just going to run 100% Wildcat? Where do you get that idea from.... If Herbert isnt in the draft this year, i dont anything to do with any qb except MAYBE Lock in the 2nd, and thats a big maybe |
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Post by nygfanstrick on Oct 22, 2018 13:04:03 GMT -5
Are we just going to run 100% Wildcat? Where do you get that idea from.... If Herbert isnt in the draft this year, i dont anything to do with any qb except MAYBE Lock in the 2nd, and thats a big maybe It would be nice if a team DESPERATELY wants Bosa or Oliver and were willing to trade up for a first next year, but normally hauls like that involve a deal to get a franchise QB. I would definitely be leaning towards trading back or either getting Bosa at 1 or draft Ed Oliver and I would rather try and trade Tomlinson instead of cutting Snacks. I think teams would definitely be interested in Tomlinsom he is underrated in my opinion. Hill/Snacks/Oliver would be nasty I honestly think Jones is someone I prefer to Lock. Although Jones' collarbone break he had is a bit concerning and he really takes more damage than he should when he is running at times. This QB class is shaky as hell, especially if Herbert returns.. smh |
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 22, 2018 13:17:25 GMT -5
Where do you get that idea from.... If Herbert isnt in the draft this year, i dont anything to do with any qb except MAYBE Lock in the 2nd, and thats a big maybe It would be nice if a team DESPERATELY wants Bosa or Oliver and were willing to trade up for a first next year, but normally hauls like that involve a deal to get a franchise QB. I would definitely be leaning towards trading back or either getting Bosa at 1 or draft Ed Oliver and I would rather try and trade Tomlinson instead of cutting Snacks. I think teams would definitely be interested in Tomlinsom he is underrated in my opinion. Hill/Snacks/Oliver would be nasty I honestly think Jones is someone I prefer to Lock. Although Jones' collarbone break he had is a bit concerning and he really takes more damage than he should when he is running at times. This QB class is shaky as hell, especially if Herbert returns.. smh It sucks cause im a big snacks fan, he's probably my fav Giant on this roster but a 30 something yr old dt on a rebuilding roster isnt the best fit for HIM. I think it would benefit both parties if we traded him to a contender or even cut him at the end of the season. Tomlinson would be able to play NT like he did in college if i remember correctly and it would free us up to take Ed Oliver, if we want to. Maybe we keep snacks and cut or trade OV, then id be good with getting Bosa, putting him at 3-4 OLB, maybe at de in a 4 man front. Him and Carter would be a pass rush combo that we have lacked in a while. |
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 22, 2018 13:19:44 GMT -5
Are we just going to run 100% Wildcat? Where do you get that idea from.... If Herbert isnt in the draft this year, i dont anything to do with any qb except MAYBE Lock in the 2nd, and thats a big maybe Kase.....My dear friend....Mi Amigo.
A team doesn't start rebuilding until our QB of the future is in place. If you rebuild a team with QB who will be gone in a year, and no one is in waiting, the entire process starts all over once they DO get that QB of the future.
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 22, 2018 13:26:02 GMT -5
Where do you get that idea from.... If Herbert isnt in the draft this year, i dont anything to do with any qb except MAYBE Lock in the 2nd, and thats a big maybe Kase.....My dear friend....Mi Amigo.
A team doesn't start rebuilding until our QB of the future is in place. If you rebuild a team with QB who will be gone in a year, and no one is in waiting, the entire process starts all over once they DO get that QB of the future.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Oct 22, 2018 14:35:31 GMT -5
It would be nice if a team DESPERATELY wants Bosa or Oliver and were willing to trade up for a first next year, but normally hauls like that involve a deal to get a franchise QB. I would definitely be leaning towards trading back or either getting Bosa at 1 or draft Ed Oliver and I would rather try and trade Tomlinson instead of cutting Snacks. I think teams would definitely be interested in Tomlinsom he is underrated in my opinion. Hill/Snacks/Oliver would be nasty I honestly think Jones is someone I prefer to Lock. Although Jones' collarbone break he had is a bit concerning and he really takes more damage than he should when he is running at times. This QB class is shaky as hell, especially if Herbert returns.. smh It sucks cause im a big snacks fan, he's probably my fav Giant on this roster but a 30 something yr old dt on a rebuilding roster isnt the best fit for HIM. I think it would benefit both parties if we traded him to a contender or even cut him at the end of the season. Tomlinson would be able to play NT like he did in college if i remember correctly and it would free us up to take Ed Oliver, if we want to. Maybe we keep snacks and cut or trade OV, then id be good with getting Bosa, putting him at 3-4 OLB, maybe at de in a 4 man front. Him and Carter would be a pass rush combo that we have lacked in a while. Bosa or Oliver would be hard to pass on without Herbert in the draft. Both guys have game changing ability and would instantly help this team a lot |
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 22, 2018 14:41:37 GMT -5
It sucks cause im a big snacks fan, he's probably my fav Giant on this roster but a 30 something yr old dt on a rebuilding roster isnt the best fit for HIM. I think it would benefit both parties if we traded him to a contender or even cut him at the end of the season. Tomlinson would be able to play NT like he did in college if i remember correctly and it would free us up to take Ed Oliver, if we want to. Maybe we keep snacks and cut or trade OV, then id be good with getting Bosa, putting him at 3-4 OLB, maybe at de in a 4 man front. Him and Carter would be a pass rush combo that we have lacked in a while. Bosa or Oliver would be hard to pass on without Herbert in the draft. Both guys have game changing ability and would instantly help this team a lot That is true, if Bosa never got hurt it would be next to impossible to pass on him. Then again there are a few players we could draft that would immediatley change our team for the better. I feel like bosa, oliver, lb devin white,cb greedy williams, and ot jonah williams would immediatley help our team from day 1. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 14:27:31 GMT -5
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 24, 2018 14:42:37 GMT -5
OK, so if he stays in school then we look at Bosa, Greedy, Oliver, White or Jonah If he comes out, Id take him in a heartbeat. Gotta say, ive been knocking his field vision but in recent games he has been surveying the field and cycling through his reads MUCH better |
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 24, 2018 15:15:54 GMT -5
OK, so if he stays in school then we look at Bosa, Greedy, Oliver, White or Jonah If he comes out, Id take him in a heartbeat. Gotta say, ive been knocking his field vision but in recent games he has been surveying the field and cycling through his reads MUCH better He also has cool hair |
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 24, 2018 15:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by EliQB10 on Oct 24, 2018 15:53:12 GMT -5
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Oct 24, 2018 23:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 5:47:49 GMT -5
Fake news
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 25, 2018 6:15:29 GMT -5
Are we just going to run 100% Wildcat? Where do you get that idea from.... If Herbert isnt in the draft this year, i dont anything to do with any qb except MAYBE Lock in the 2nd, and thats a big maybe Yep, can’t force a QB pick that high in the draft. Better to take a Bosa or an Oliver (or even better trade back) and let it fly with Lauletta, than to force a QB pick high in the draft |
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Post by Nite on Oct 25, 2018 8:01:32 GMT -5
Heres a crazy idea; If Eli is gone next year, wait till 2020 pick up Tua, Fromm or Milton. In the meantime build the OL and DL get a Journeyman QB to fill the spot and be a mentor for the new guy. We ain't doing anything for at least a couple of years and Lauletta was just a fanciful notion from the brain trust..
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Post by EliQB10 on Oct 26, 2018 18:38:23 GMT -5
Where do you get that idea from.... If Herbert isnt in the draft this year, i dont anything to do with any qb except MAYBE Lock in the 2nd, and thats a big maybe Yep, can’t force a QB pick that high in the draft. Better to take a Bosa or an Oliver (or even better trade back) and let it fly with Lauletta, than to force a QB pick high in the draft I agree, If the FO doesn't really have a conviction about any QB coming out this year don't pick a QB for the sake of just picking one... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 28, 2018 0:44:06 GMT -5
Heres a crazy idea; If Eli is gone next year, wait till 2020 pick up Tua, Fromm or Milton. In the meantime build the OL and DL get a Journeyman QB to fill the spot and be a mentor for the new guy. We ain't doing anything for at least a couple of years and Lauletta was just a fanciful notion from the brain trust.. I'd rather not even play with a qb,because the absolute worst case scenario could happen where he plays just good enough to have a freak career year and the team goes 9-7 and not only just missing the playoffs but also too far back to trade up for Tua/Fromm (and with even a functional o line there is a very good chance this happens) Just roll with Lauletta,if we have the same 9-7 record and he looks legit then the problem is solved. If not they can sell the farm to move up. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 28, 2018 0:45:26 GMT -5
Yep, can’t force a QB pick that high in the draft. Better to take a Bosa or an Oliver (or even better trade back) and let it fly with Lauletta, than to force a QB pick high in the draft I agree, If the FO doesn't really have a conviction about any QB coming out this year don't pick a QB for the sake of just picking one... After watching Herbert tonight he really needs to stay another year because he looked horrible |
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Post by EliQB10 on Oct 28, 2018 9:39:54 GMT -5
I agree, If the FO doesn't really have a conviction about any QB coming out this year don't pick a QB for the sake of just picking one... After watching Herbert tonight he really needs to stay another year because he looked horrible No argument here...he has not looked good the 2 times that I have watched him...you can see that he has potential but like you've said he probably needs to go back to school...I also watched Daniel Jones play against Pitt and thought he looked good, he is mobile, has good touch and can make all the throws...however...the defense of the opponent needs to be taken into consideration...the two games that I observed of Herbert the opposing defenses looked a lot better than Pitt did against Duke, a matter of fact there really was no defense in the Duke Pitt game the way both offenses were able to March up and down the field and pretty much score at will... |
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