Comments from Giants Town Hall Attendees
Jun 8, 2018 15:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by scoostraw on Jun 8, 2018 15:49:17 GMT -5
The Giants hold a Town Hall Meeting annually. This year was better than last year. The setting was at the Beacon in a lovely area of Manhattan’s West Side. The following are the observations posted by people that attended:
Eli received a standing ovation when he was introduced by Bob Papa and David Diehl. Eli was enthusiastic and energized. He seemed happier than last year and several times said how everything was making sense with this offense and how it was all coming together for him.
Shurmur was impressive in how he spoke. Both he and Shula have warm personalities. Unlike McAdoo who came off aloof and disconnected.
The Rookie class came off well and the veteran group all had an all in attitude.
David Diehl (who co-hosted the event with Bob Papa) looks great and looks like he could still play if a game were held today.
Mara said they learned about Gettleman's cancer 7-10 days ago. The way he talked, it sounds like he will be away for a bit (might explain that personnel meeting they had last week).
Shurmur didn't say anything earth-shattering. He did seem focused on getting to know his players better and spending more time with his players than his first go-round as a head coach. His philosophy is run the ball and protect the passer on offense and control the run and pressure the passer on defense. One of the first players he reached out to when he got to NY was OBJ.
James Bettcher has "future head coach" written all over him. David Shula reminds me of a college professor more than a football coach.
The rookies as a group appear to be a good bunch of guys who are grounded and have their heads on right.
Kyle Lauletta is a bit on the skinny side and looks like he has room to add a bit more muscle. In my mind, that's a good thing as it means he has the potential to improve his arm strength.
Nate Solder's leadership goes beyond spending a few minutes after practice. In the cafeteria, he pushed the tables together so all the offensive linemen could eat together as a group. That hasn't happened since Kareem McKenzie was a player. It about bonding as a unit. Even Hernandez talked about how much he learned from Solder already.
Eli Manning seems really energized and really seems to like the new offense (and coaches). He mentioned repeatedly how he is finding it easy to visualize plays. He also mentioned this offense throws the ball down the field more and that QBs love throwing the ball down the field more.
Collins mentioned how he likes that this new defense loves to send 5 guys after the QB.
It is interesting that there are many past Giants who are frequent visitors or still work for the team or associate with the team and they have quite a bit of interaction with the current players. Names mentioned were Harry Carson, Carl Banks, Jessie Armstead, Michael Strahan, David Diehl, and others.
Pat Shurmur told interesting story of visiting #Giants as Eagles assistant coach once & stepping into room to watch 1pm NFL games w an older man. When Shurmur got up, the man tapped him on his knee & said “good luck today but not too much.” It was Wellington Mara.
A special moment was during Q&A “hi my name is Eli I was born in 2008”.
The Giants rookie D-linemen are in awe of Snacks.
Hernandez had a great comment where he said he was known as a great mauler because they ran a gap scheme. He said if they ran an inside zone scheme he would have been known as a great inside zone guard.
Without mentioning his name, Papa, Diehl, and even John Mara took some veiled shots at McAdoo. Mara is still seething at the way the Manning "benching" situation was handled. One interesting thing is that Mara said he was firm in his belief that Eli could still play at a very high level for several more years but left that for Gettleman and Shurmur to make the decision independently and they both felt very strongly about Eli as the qb for the next few years. Mara said Eli is throwing the ball in practice as well as he ever has in his career and is full of energy and determination.
Pat Shurmur is the most impressive and is still the most important and best off-season acquisition. He is gracious, direct, respectful, and doesn;t give any canned/bs answers to questions. He has an almost regal yet humble presence about him. The man is everything you want in a head coach, especially for this franchise.
Bettcher looks and sounds the part of a football coach in every sense of the word. He speaks well and wasn't shy about the fact that he loves to bring pressure and that his scheme will feature 3/4 and 4/3 looks and could change from one play to the next. He made it clear that it's an aggressive, attacking, fly to the ball system. Seems like he's bringing more of a "risk/reward" than read-and-react/bend-but-don't break mindset. He pointed out that the there is a ton of competition in the secondary right now and a lot of talented guys at the CB and Safety spots fighting it out, which is a good thing.
In the rookies segment, Saquon was Saquon. The guy just handles himself the way you'd want to see any guy on your team do so. He just makes you smile because you know he's such a rare talent and special person. Will Hernandez is a MAN. To say he's physically-imposing would be putting it lightly. He is a well-spoken, and focused individual but you just know he is not messing around. When asked which NFL player he models his game after, he said Al Faneca (which I thought was a great answer). The guy is hungry and quite frankly wants to kick ass on the football field (Eli later praised him as being "cranky" - mentioning that he's started several fights in practice already). Personality-wise, Zo Carter is my favorite guy among the rookies. He has a great sense of humor and just seems like a kind of dude anyone could get a long with and would be just a fun guy to hang out with (NFL player or otherwise). BJ Hill seems like a great kid with a good head on his shoulds and the right attitude. RJ McIntosh seems like a bit of a knuckle-head and still carries himself like a college kid but hopefully he'll learn how to be a pro. Lauletta talked about how amazing Eli is.
In the Veterans segment (which also featured Landon Collins, Nate Solder, and Alec Ogletree), Eli absolutely stole the show with his deadpan humor. He is by far the most loved and respected guy in the room (by both the fans and his teammates). For what it's worth, he's still the best dressed guy on the team.
Ogletree, on what he wants the personality of the defense to be. "Gritty, Tough, and Bad Motherf....". He did stop himself.
Collins: "This defense is great because we're sending 5 every snap."
Bettcher: "Love the competition in the back end. I like creating packages for third and long, second-passing downs and the red zone with a lot of DBs on the field.".
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"We won't really know until camp and preseason games who has a real chance to make the 53" when asked about the young undrafted guys.
Hernandez on being underrated in the draft ratings. "I was known as a mauler, but trust me, if we ran more inside zone I would have been known as one of the best inside zone guys." He said this with the gunfighter's stare, by the way.
Eli on the system. "I'm picking it up really well. Everything makes sense to me."
and
"All the blitzing by this defense is great as we try to come together as a unit because we have to get the protections right to pick all of these pressures and overloads up."
Solder on his pushing the tables together in the cafe so every Olineman at the OTAs was at the same table. "The bible says the family breaks bread together".
Shurmer on what he took from his Cleveland experience "There's a huge list of things I'd never do again."
and
"I put a major emphasis on really getting to know the players."
Mara "By far, the most difficult task as the CEO is picking the right head coach".
and, after getting booed regarding the Eli benching.
"I know, I'm paying for it still. I REALLY paid for it when I went home for dinner that night".
The rookie defensive players all made comments about how "Snacks is The Man", and "Snacks is the real deal".
Barkley came as-advertised; polished, humble, said the right things. Hernandez was very impressive; he gave a thoughtful answer to a question from the audience about being "underrated" which demonstrated a degree of quiet self-confidence. Lauletta has an element of moxie/cockiness; neither good nor bad, just an observation.
Solder is a going to be the linchpin of our improved OL not just because he is a top-tier player. Rather, as I suspected when I first heard about his work with Flowers after OTAs, he brings a leadership quality to that meeting room which was utterly absent lately. He's a veteran, he knows what it takes to win at a high level, and he's a solid human being.
Read more: bbwc.com/thread/1290/comments-giants-town-hall-attendees?page=1&scrollTo=18107#ixzz5Hrw03mf0
Eli received a standing ovation when he was introduced by Bob Papa and David Diehl. Eli was enthusiastic and energized. He seemed happier than last year and several times said how everything was making sense with this offense and how it was all coming together for him.
Shurmur was impressive in how he spoke. Both he and Shula have warm personalities. Unlike McAdoo who came off aloof and disconnected.
The Rookie class came off well and the veteran group all had an all in attitude.
David Diehl (who co-hosted the event with Bob Papa) looks great and looks like he could still play if a game were held today.
Mara said they learned about Gettleman's cancer 7-10 days ago. The way he talked, it sounds like he will be away for a bit (might explain that personnel meeting they had last week).
Shurmur didn't say anything earth-shattering. He did seem focused on getting to know his players better and spending more time with his players than his first go-round as a head coach. His philosophy is run the ball and protect the passer on offense and control the run and pressure the passer on defense. One of the first players he reached out to when he got to NY was OBJ.
James Bettcher has "future head coach" written all over him. David Shula reminds me of a college professor more than a football coach.
The rookies as a group appear to be a good bunch of guys who are grounded and have their heads on right.
Kyle Lauletta is a bit on the skinny side and looks like he has room to add a bit more muscle. In my mind, that's a good thing as it means he has the potential to improve his arm strength.
Nate Solder's leadership goes beyond spending a few minutes after practice. In the cafeteria, he pushed the tables together so all the offensive linemen could eat together as a group. That hasn't happened since Kareem McKenzie was a player. It about bonding as a unit. Even Hernandez talked about how much he learned from Solder already.
Eli Manning seems really energized and really seems to like the new offense (and coaches). He mentioned repeatedly how he is finding it easy to visualize plays. He also mentioned this offense throws the ball down the field more and that QBs love throwing the ball down the field more.
Collins mentioned how he likes that this new defense loves to send 5 guys after the QB.
It is interesting that there are many past Giants who are frequent visitors or still work for the team or associate with the team and they have quite a bit of interaction with the current players. Names mentioned were Harry Carson, Carl Banks, Jessie Armstead, Michael Strahan, David Diehl, and others.
Pat Shurmur told interesting story of visiting #Giants as Eagles assistant coach once & stepping into room to watch 1pm NFL games w an older man. When Shurmur got up, the man tapped him on his knee & said “good luck today but not too much.” It was Wellington Mara.
A special moment was during Q&A “hi my name is Eli I was born in 2008”.
The Giants rookie D-linemen are in awe of Snacks.
Hernandez had a great comment where he said he was known as a great mauler because they ran a gap scheme. He said if they ran an inside zone scheme he would have been known as a great inside zone guard.
Without mentioning his name, Papa, Diehl, and even John Mara took some veiled shots at McAdoo. Mara is still seething at the way the Manning "benching" situation was handled. One interesting thing is that Mara said he was firm in his belief that Eli could still play at a very high level for several more years but left that for Gettleman and Shurmur to make the decision independently and they both felt very strongly about Eli as the qb for the next few years. Mara said Eli is throwing the ball in practice as well as he ever has in his career and is full of energy and determination.
Pat Shurmur is the most impressive and is still the most important and best off-season acquisition. He is gracious, direct, respectful, and doesn;t give any canned/bs answers to questions. He has an almost regal yet humble presence about him. The man is everything you want in a head coach, especially for this franchise.
Bettcher looks and sounds the part of a football coach in every sense of the word. He speaks well and wasn't shy about the fact that he loves to bring pressure and that his scheme will feature 3/4 and 4/3 looks and could change from one play to the next. He made it clear that it's an aggressive, attacking, fly to the ball system. Seems like he's bringing more of a "risk/reward" than read-and-react/bend-but-don't break mindset. He pointed out that the there is a ton of competition in the secondary right now and a lot of talented guys at the CB and Safety spots fighting it out, which is a good thing.
In the rookies segment, Saquon was Saquon. The guy just handles himself the way you'd want to see any guy on your team do so. He just makes you smile because you know he's such a rare talent and special person. Will Hernandez is a MAN. To say he's physically-imposing would be putting it lightly. He is a well-spoken, and focused individual but you just know he is not messing around. When asked which NFL player he models his game after, he said Al Faneca (which I thought was a great answer). The guy is hungry and quite frankly wants to kick ass on the football field (Eli later praised him as being "cranky" - mentioning that he's started several fights in practice already). Personality-wise, Zo Carter is my favorite guy among the rookies. He has a great sense of humor and just seems like a kind of dude anyone could get a long with and would be just a fun guy to hang out with (NFL player or otherwise). BJ Hill seems like a great kid with a good head on his shoulds and the right attitude. RJ McIntosh seems like a bit of a knuckle-head and still carries himself like a college kid but hopefully he'll learn how to be a pro. Lauletta talked about how amazing Eli is.
In the Veterans segment (which also featured Landon Collins, Nate Solder, and Alec Ogletree), Eli absolutely stole the show with his deadpan humor. He is by far the most loved and respected guy in the room (by both the fans and his teammates). For what it's worth, he's still the best dressed guy on the team.
Ogletree, on what he wants the personality of the defense to be. "Gritty, Tough, and Bad Motherf....". He did stop himself.
Collins: "This defense is great because we're sending 5 every snap."
Bettcher: "Love the competition in the back end. I like creating packages for third and long, second-passing downs and the red zone with a lot of DBs on the field.".
and
"We won't really know until camp and preseason games who has a real chance to make the 53" when asked about the young undrafted guys.
Hernandez on being underrated in the draft ratings. "I was known as a mauler, but trust me, if we ran more inside zone I would have been known as one of the best inside zone guys." He said this with the gunfighter's stare, by the way.
Eli on the system. "I'm picking it up really well. Everything makes sense to me."
and
"All the blitzing by this defense is great as we try to come together as a unit because we have to get the protections right to pick all of these pressures and overloads up."
Solder on his pushing the tables together in the cafe so every Olineman at the OTAs was at the same table. "The bible says the family breaks bread together".
Shurmer on what he took from his Cleveland experience "There's a huge list of things I'd never do again."
and
"I put a major emphasis on really getting to know the players."
Mara "By far, the most difficult task as the CEO is picking the right head coach".
and, after getting booed regarding the Eli benching.
"I know, I'm paying for it still. I REALLY paid for it when I went home for dinner that night".
The rookie defensive players all made comments about how "Snacks is The Man", and "Snacks is the real deal".
Barkley came as-advertised; polished, humble, said the right things. Hernandez was very impressive; he gave a thoughtful answer to a question from the audience about being "underrated" which demonstrated a degree of quiet self-confidence. Lauletta has an element of moxie/cockiness; neither good nor bad, just an observation.
Solder is a going to be the linchpin of our improved OL not just because he is a top-tier player. Rather, as I suspected when I first heard about his work with Flowers after OTAs, he brings a leadership quality to that meeting room which was utterly absent lately. He's a veteran, he knows what it takes to win at a high level, and he's a solid human being.
Read more: bbwc.com/thread/1290/comments-giants-town-hall-attendees?page=1&scrollTo=18107#ixzz5Hrw03mf0
