gumby
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Post by gumby on Jun 13, 2018 8:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jun 13, 2018 9:11:13 GMT -5
Well, it's really up to him. He can either step up or say goodbye. I'm sure the fact that not a single team in the NFL would take him, even for a 7th round pick, has got to put a chip on his shoulder.
Let's hope.
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Post by KingCap88 on Jun 13, 2018 9:42:22 GMT -5
Hopefully, Flowers is starting to turn a corner. But I won't get my hopes up until I see how he plays and acts during the season.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jun 13, 2018 9:50:52 GMT -5
The fresh start has to be good for everyone on this team. And it’s positive to hear the Oline is bonding this year.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jun 13, 2018 9:59:09 GMT -5
It sounds like Hernandez has got the makings of a leader. Love everything I've heard so far.
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Post by hadenough on Jun 13, 2018 10:26:39 GMT -5
That's good to hear. In reality...Flowers is light years better than Hart. If he can be decent...the Giants upgraded 2 oline spots with one move...the addition of Solder.
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Post by GameTime on Jun 13, 2018 12:19:57 GMT -5
Positive news is always better than negative. Even at this time of year
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Post by nygfannc on Jun 13, 2018 13:57:48 GMT -5
At this point, it's time to put up or shut up. Contract year and the Giants have declined to pick up his 5th year option. This year could be his last shot. For the sake of his career, I hope he can turn it around.
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Post by ocgiant on Jun 13, 2018 20:50:48 GMT -5
Why Solder was bought in and Hernandez drafted both contributing to "how" the OL will work together as a unit aka Giants "team" culture.
I still need to be "resold" on Flowers until proven otherwise, he is a disappointment... who needs to earn the position and "contribute" now. Development time is over... plus he needs to be a model citizen in camp and preseason. This all needs to happen (at a minimum) for me to change my opinion that he is a wasted first round pick and we need to move on.
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Post by TCHOF on Jun 14, 2018 6:46:24 GMT -5
Not falling for this crap again until I see this guy not suck on the field
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Post by nygiantfanalways on Jun 14, 2018 10:02:44 GMT -5
The thing about Flowers is he either plays good this year or else his NFL football career maybe over. Giants didn't pick up his 5th yr option. So he's basically auditioning for a team for next yr. I can't see the Giants extending him next yr at all....
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Post by snyder55 on Jun 14, 2018 10:03:02 GMT -5
IMO Flowers has a lot to prove and until he proves it I still see a bumbling penalty making tackle causing his team penalties. I hope he has turned the corner but he still is in a prove it stage to me...
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Post by Merc on Jun 14, 2018 11:15:49 GMT -5
The thing about Flowers is he either plays good this year or else his NFL football career maybe over. Giants didn't pick up his 5th yr option. So he's basically auditioning for a team for next yr. I can't see the Giants extending him next yr at all.... If he does well, I don't see any problem with keeping him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 17:37:57 GMT -5
Why Solder was bought in and Hernandez drafted both contributing to "how" the OL will work together as a unit aka Giants "team" culture. I still need to be "resold" on Flowers until proven otherwise, he is a disappointment... who needs to earn the position and "contribute" now. Development time is over... plus he needs to be a model citizen in camp and preseason. This all needs to happen (at a minimum) for me to change my opinion that he is a wasted first round pick and we need to move on. Even if he becomes a serviceable player it's still a wasted pick, he was taken #9 overall in the draft nothing short of becoming a Pro Bowl lineman would change him being a wasted pick. And I've got a better shot at marrying a supermodel than Flowers has being a Pro Bowler. |
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Post by Speedman on Jun 14, 2018 18:13:28 GMT -5
Why Solder was bought in and Hernandez drafted both contributing to "how" the OL will work together as a unit aka Giants "team" culture. I still need to be "resold" on Flowers until proven otherwise, he is a disappointment... who needs to earn the position and "contribute" now. Development time is over... plus he needs to be a model citizen in camp and preseason. This all needs to happen (at a minimum) for me to change my opinion that he is a wasted first round pick and we need to move on. Even if he becomes a serviceable player it's still a wasted pick, he was taken #9 overall in the draft nothing short of becoming a Pro Bowl lineman would change him being a wasted pick. And I've got a better shot at marrying a supermodel than Flowers has being a Pro Bowler. Not with that bag over your head. |
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Post by TEM on Jun 14, 2018 18:26:08 GMT -5
Even if he becomes a serviceable player it's still a wasted pick, he was taken #9 overall in the draft nothing short of becoming a Pro Bowl lineman would change him being a wasted pick. And I've got a better shot at marrying a supermodel than Flowers has being a Pro Bowler. Not with that bag over your head. I disagree about the bag:) |
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Post by ocgiant on Jun 14, 2018 20:08:16 GMT -5
Even if he becomes a serviceable player it's still a wasted pick, he was taken #9 overall in the draft nothing short of becoming a Pro Bowl lineman would change him being a wasted pick. And I've got a better shot at marrying a supermodel than Flowers has being a Pro Bowler. Not with that bag over your head. LOL both posts :0) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 8:06:30 GMT -5
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Post by Parademon1 on Jun 17, 2018 9:08:05 GMT -5
Guy better have a Pro Bowl type yr to erase even 25% of the stench that he has brought to the position. Did Reese really think he was the 9th best college player in the draft that yr? Wow!
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Post by Nick6475 on Jun 17, 2018 14:24:08 GMT -5
Guy better have a Pro Bowl type yr to erase even 25% of the stench that he has brought to the position. Did Reese really think he was the 9th best college player in the draft that yr? Wow! <iframe width="22.88000000000011" height="3.4200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.88000000000011px; height: 3.4200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_96995079" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.88000000000011" height="3.4200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.88px; height: 3.42px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1085px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_53598746" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.88000000000011" height="3.4200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.88px; height: 3.42px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 111px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_42501160" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.88000000000011" height="3.4200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 22.88px; height: 3.42px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1085px; top: 111px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_60396685" scrolling="no"></iframe> That was a really bad draft for OTs and Reese forced that pick. |
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Post by Nick6475 on Jun 17, 2018 14:30:18 GMT -5
The same thing happened in the 2016 draft when Conklin and Floyd were picked right before them and he panicked and picked Apple.
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Post by Parademon1 on Jun 17, 2018 14:57:44 GMT -5
Neither of those players was top 20, let alone top 10. Players picked that high are usually in the running for ROTY or even the pro bowl. Neither has come remotely close to showing that type of talent imo.
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Post by jb456 on Jun 19, 2018 16:17:10 GMT -5
Why Solder was bought in and Hernandez drafted both contributing to "how" the OL will work together as a unit aka Giants "team" culture. I still need to be "resold" on Flowers until proven otherwise, he is a disappointment... who needs to earn the position and "contribute" now. Development time is over... plus he needs to be a model citizen in camp and preseason. This all needs to happen (at a minimum) for me to change my opinion that he is a wasted first round pick and we need to move on. Haha, I get what you are saying but "resold"? I did have a little hope for him after his first year but Flowers has been average to bad his entire career. |
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Post by jb456 on Jun 19, 2018 16:20:35 GMT -5
Why Solder was bought in and Hernandez drafted both contributing to "how" the OL will work together as a unit aka Giants "team" culture. I still need to be "resold" on Flowers until proven otherwise, he is a disappointment... who needs to earn the position and "contribute" now. Development time is over... plus he needs to be a model citizen in camp and preseason. This all needs to happen (at a minimum) for me to change my opinion that he is a wasted first round pick and we need to move on. Even if he becomes a serviceable player it's still a wasted pick, he was taken #9 overall in the draft nothing short of becoming a Pro Bowl lineman would change him being a wasted pick. And I've got a better shot at marrying a supermodel than Flowers has being a Pro Bowler. Flowers has been terrible pick and I believe 99% of us agree that he was a wasted pick but we all hope that he can at least become serviceable. |
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Post by PennState1 on Jun 21, 2018 9:12:26 GMT -5
If he is a serviceable RT, which I’m certainly not counting on, it would be a big win for the Giants. If this oline can jell, produce a run game and gain Eli’s trust, this could be a very good offense.
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Post by ocgiant on Jun 21, 2018 17:58:55 GMT -5
Even if he becomes a serviceable player it's still a wasted pick, he was taken #9 overall in the draft nothing short of becoming a Pro Bowl lineman would change him being a wasted pick. And I've got a better shot at marrying a supermodel than Flowers has being a Pro Bowler. Flowers has been terrible pick and I believe 99% of us agree that he was a wasted pick but we all hope that he can at least become serviceable. Even as serviceable, I still need for him to prove himself since he has fooled me once but not twice... then I can be on board with serviceable... |
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Post by giantsalmon on Jun 21, 2018 20:02:36 GMT -5
The fresh start has to be good for everyone on this team. And it’s positive to hear the Oline is bonding this year. Agreed. It will be great news to hear that they are actually hanging together and pounding steak houses as a unit--as past lines have. |
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Post by Jomo on Jun 21, 2018 20:38:17 GMT -5
The fresh start has to be good for everyone on this team. And it’s positive to hear the Oline is bonding this year. Agreed. It will be great news to hear that they are actually hanging together and pounding steak houses as a unit--as past lines have. I am gonna have to wait and see with Mr. Flowers. Hoping for the best but it is really "show me" time for him. |
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Post by snyder55 on Jun 22, 2018 10:13:19 GMT -5
if Flowers has turned the corner in his career and becomes a good RT then we may very well have one of the better O lines in the league...
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Post by TEM on Jun 22, 2018 10:25:18 GMT -5
if Flowers has turned the corner in his career and becomes a good RT then we may very well have one of the better O lines in the league... I hope you are correct . I still hold an amount of optimism . I am not sure about one of the best . I will be happy with a line that will allow the team to move the ball. |
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