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Post by brownelvis54 on Nov 9, 2018 14:58:29 GMT -5
Derek Carr is currently under contract with the Oakland Raiders through the 2022 season, but CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora believes that he will soon be a member of the New York Giants as their next franchise quarterback.
In a very bold prediction, La Canfora asserted the Giants will trade for Carr this coming February at the 2019 NFL Combine after moving on from current starter Eli Manning this offseason.
"I think the big final play ... sort of how you look at their teardown. There were these incremental moves, and it finally ended at the draft when they move up to get Josh Allen. The final one will be Derek Carr and I don't think it will be close to the draft, I think it will be at the combine," La Canfora said on the Pick Six podcast with Will Brinson. "And ultimately what's the point of keeping Derek Carr? And if you have all this draft capital and you get a one plus something else for Derek Carr, which I think he can -- I'll call it right now, Derek Carr to the New York Giants. At the combine."
According to La Canfora, the logic on this proposed deal adds up because the Raiders will want to completely reboot the roster in first-year head coach Jon Gruden's image and that vision will not include Carr. On the flip side, La Canfora argues that everything first-year Giants general manager Dave Gettleman has done until now proves he does not want a complete reboot of New York's roster.
"That makes all the sense in the world to me. The Giants don't really want to rebuild. And they don't really want to admit they screwed up by not taking a quarterback, right?" La Canfora said. "So they trade what will be a fairly high [first-round pick] or maybe they do it for a future [first-round pick] if this one looks like it's going to be top two or three. I think that's what they do and they plug him right in there with Barkley, Odell and Shephard and [Evan Engram] and they try to keep that thing going."
There is certainly a lot to unpack here in La Canfora's prediction. For starters, let's just look at the salary cap implications of a proposed trade like this one and why they will make a deal very difficult to complete for both sides. Carr signed a six-year, $126.15 million contract extension in June of 2017. According to Spotrac, the Raiders have a potential "out" in Carr's contract this offseason when they can release him and only incur a $7.5 million "dead salary cap" hit on his $22.5 million 2019 salary cap hit overall. However, the salary cap ramifications get a bit trickier when a player is involved in a trade and it's unclear how much of Carr's 2019 cap hit (and beyond) would be required of the Giants to take on.
In addition to the cap ramifications alone, it is unclear if investing in Carr would be a wise move for the Giants franchise. Long-time NFL evaluators will tell you yards per attempt is a key stat to keep an eye on when evaluating the quarterback position. A quarterback with a low yard per attempt average is generally one who struggles to push the ball down the field and ultimately score points for his offense. Carr's yards per attempt average has never eclipsed the 7.0 mark in his entire career
247sports.com/nfl/new-york-giants/Article/Derek-Carr-New-York-Giants-trade-for-new-quarterback--123448912/
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Post by nemesis on Nov 9, 2018 15:07:28 GMT -5
If this happens i will trade my fanhood in for quality family time on Sunday's, Carr is trash...
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Post by Jomo on Nov 9, 2018 15:09:10 GMT -5
Derek Carr is much closer to what his brother was than he is to what we need here at QB.
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 9, 2018 15:18:28 GMT -5
I hope like hell that this does not happen. It sounds to me like he is really just guessing at this. Irresponsible journalism...
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Post by giants8493 on Nov 9, 2018 15:24:44 GMT -5
Derek Carr is significantly worse than Eli manning. Use this top pick on a tackle and build up the oline. If that works Eli will be fine. If not then we will be in a great spot to select a qb in 2020. Either way that is a win win.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 9, 2018 15:36:06 GMT -5
Well, now I can wear my Derek Carr Jersey again....
maybe David Carr had good film against Philly as well.
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Post by Waybackfan on Nov 9, 2018 15:36:32 GMT -5
If Fran Tarkenton is available I say grab him.
He's with Minnesota now isn't he?
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Post by magilla on Nov 9, 2018 15:40:41 GMT -5
If we trade a #1 draft pick for Derek’s Carr we will be an even bigger laughing stock because that would be a ridiculously stupid move.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 15:44:06 GMT -5
"I think the big final play ... sort of how you look at their teardown. There were these incremental moves, and it finally ended at the draft when they move up to get Josh Allen. The final one will be Derek Carr and I don't think it will be close to the draft, I think it will be at the combine,"
What is he talking about
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Post by brownelvis54 on Nov 9, 2018 15:49:56 GMT -5
If we trade a #1 draft pick for Derek’s Carr we will be an even bigger laughing stock because that would be a ridiculously stupid move. First round draft pick would be crazy |
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Post by Parademon1 on Nov 9, 2018 15:55:10 GMT -5
I'd rather get Foles for a 2yr rental.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 9, 2018 16:27:08 GMT -5
I would say there is at least a punchers chance that Derek Carr will be a Giant next season.
Maybe 1 in 4.
I would say there is a good chance that a current NFL QB will be our QB next year. Better than 50/50 as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe Bridgewater, maybe Carr, maybe someone we haven't thought of.
DG could draft a QB but I tend to doubt it.
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 9, 2018 16:39:33 GMT -5
I think Gettlemans problem will deciding on which QB to draft or which O lineman to take in round 1 and if I were a betting man I would say that Gettleman will make a deal for Bridgewater and go O lineman in round 1 and several more after that......
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 9, 2018 16:45:47 GMT -5
I think Gettlemans problem will deciding on which QB to draft or which O lineman to take in round 1 and if I were a betting man I would say that Gettleman will make a deal for Bridgewater and go O lineman in round 1 and several more after that...... The problem with Gettleman's position is that he has drafted a RB early. he just signed Odell for a zillion dollars. He made Solder the highest paid O lineman in football. he can't afford to start from scratch and draft a QB early. It's not impossible but they need to win football games.
Personally I would go hard after Bridgewater. That kid is a winner. We can win with him. At least that's my view. Carr has more arm talent but Teddy has intangibles off the charts.
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 9, 2018 16:53:43 GMT -5
I think Gettlemans problem will deciding on which QB to draft or which O lineman to take in round 1 and if I were a betting man I would say that Gettleman will make a deal for Bridgewater and go O lineman in round 1 and several more after that...... The problem with Gettleman's position is that he has drafted a RB early. he just signed Odell for a zillion dollars. He made Solder the highest paid O lineman in football. he can't afford to start from scratch and draft a QB early. It's not impossible but they need to win football games.
Personally I would go hard after Bridgewater. That kid is a winner. We can win with him. At least that's my view. Carr has more arm talent but Teddy has intangibles off the charts.
I'm not seeing much from Carr at this point to make me want to take on his contract.. |
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Post by brownelvis54 on Nov 9, 2018 20:11:58 GMT -5
I think Gettlemans problem will deciding on which QB to draft or which O lineman to take in round 1 and if I were a betting man I would say that Gettleman will make a deal for Bridgewater and go O lineman in round 1 and several more after that...... The problem with Gettleman's position is that he has drafted a RB early. he just signed Odell for a zillion dollars. He made Solder the highest paid O lineman in football. he can't afford to start from scratch and draft a QB early. It's not impossible but they need to win football games.
Personally I would go hard after Bridgewater. That kid is a winner. We can win with him. At least that's my view. Carr has more arm talent but Teddy has intangibles off the charts.
I like Teddy more also...I think he is more of a long term QB...get him and we a set. Then we could focus on the O-line and defense. |
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Post by fifthavephil on Nov 10, 2018 1:18:21 GMT -5
That guy is all over the place.
First, it is Carr, then draft a QB.
Next, it's T.Bridgewater on a one year deal. Number four option is K Lauletta.
This guy is just guessing to write an article.
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Post by Nite on Nov 10, 2018 9:41:09 GMT -5
That guy is all over the place. First, it is Carr, then draft a QB. Next, it's T.Bridgewater on a one year deal. Number four option is K Lauletta. This guy is just guessing to write an article. Thats what they usually do when they have nothing to say..... |
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Nov 10, 2018 12:47:57 GMT -5
That guy is all over the place. First, it is Carr, then draft a QB. Next, it's T.Bridgewater on a one year deal. Number four option is K Lauletta. This guy is just guessing to write an article. +1 I can't stand these type of opinionated articles based solely on speculation. Not an ounce of inside source information, just his bold prediction(s). I'll wait until Peter King, or Jay Glazer mention anything about Carr coming to the Giants. Until then, this is worthless reading material. |
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Post by KingCap88 on Nov 10, 2018 12:55:29 GMT -5
If the Giants trade for Derek Carr then the entire front office needs to be drug tested.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 10, 2018 14:44:10 GMT -5
No
No stop gap
Lauletta in 2019 and build the line and pass rush
Fromm/Tua/someone else in 2020 if Lauletta sucks
Dont overthink it
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Post by BlueReign on Nov 13, 2018 14:19:41 GMT -5
I'd go hard after Bridgewater.
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Post by EliQB10 on Nov 13, 2018 14:34:11 GMT -5
God forbid...
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 13, 2018 14:43:41 GMT -5
He'd be great. He just needs a really good OL. Simple! |
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Post by Nullusion on Nov 13, 2018 18:39:06 GMT -5
He's getting paid more than he's worth at this point. I'd probably part with nothing higher than our early 4th round pick to take on a contract as bad as his looks right now.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 13, 2018 18:59:47 GMT -5
Oh God I hope we don't trade for Derek Carr. But I see the problem of College QB's not nearly as good as last year. Herbert is probably the best of the QB's and he might stay in school for another year. The kid at duke isn't what he was talked up to be imo. We'll see in the combine some phenom throws the ball 60 yards and everybody goes bananas.
The FA are Fitzpatrick, Bridgewater, RG, and who knows who else.
But don't give up any high picks for any of these options.
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Post by TEM on Nov 13, 2018 20:27:09 GMT -5
That contract is an albatross. He has not proven he has recovered from his knee rebuild. He is Namath and not the SB winning Namath. The old decerped no knees Joe
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