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Post by nemesis on Jan 7, 2020 12:40:59 GMT -5
Better off too keep Reese, Gettleman was a F N mistake...
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Post by drew on Jan 7, 2020 12:49:07 GMT -5
Better off too keep Reese, Gettleman was a F N mistake... I wouldn't go that far. But firing Reese and hiring Gettleman was 1 step forward, 2 steps back
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Post by southerner on Jan 7, 2020 13:24:03 GMT -5
Better off too keep Reese, Gettleman was a F N mistake... I wouldn't go that far. But firing Reese and hiring Gettleman was 1 step forward, 2 steps back Actually it was 3 steps forward....try again.
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Post by southerner on Jan 7, 2020 13:25:42 GMT -5
Better off too keep Reese, Gettleman was a F N mistake... No, he is much better than Reese....already got Saquon and Jones plus 6 or 7 other quality starters....not sure Reese got that many the entire time he was GM.
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Post by jmike on Jan 7, 2020 13:33:20 GMT -5
There is no doubt in my mind this Gettleclown is now costing us HCs. Rhule WANTED to come here. Goes to Carolina and Im sure they gave him an ear full on how much Gettleman sucks and he knows it. it also doesn’t help he’s a proven liar. Hard to be a proven liar when to date not a single person has been able to provide a single verified lie that he has told. One would think in order to prove something you would need some verified evidence of the accusation.
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Post by southerner on Jan 7, 2020 13:40:56 GMT -5
it also doesn’t help he’s a proven liar. Hard to be a proven liar when to date not a single person has been able to provide a single verified lie that he has told. One would think in order to prove something you would need some verified evidence of the accusation. Gee.....maybe the $60 to $70 Million that the Panther’s are going to pay Rhule had something to do with his choice.
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Post by drew on Jan 7, 2020 14:42:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't go that far. But firing Reese and hiring Gettleman was 1 step forward, 2 steps back Actually it was 3 steps forward....try again. If firing Reese was 3 steps forward, then hiring Gettleman was 4 steps back. Anyone who isn't delusional would say this franchise isn't any better than the day before Gettleman took over. We're coming off a 4 win season, and somehow this team has *MORE* holes to fill than the previous year.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 7, 2020 14:49:13 GMT -5
it also doesn’t help he’s a proven liar. Hard to be a proven liar when to date not a single person has been able to provide a single verified lie that he has told. One would think in order to prove something you would need some verified evidence of the accusation. Wow another person with their head up their ass.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 7, 2020 14:54:20 GMT -5
There is no doubt in my mind this Gettleclown is now costing us HCs. Rhule WANTED to come here. Goes to Carolina and Im sure they gave him an ear full on how much Gettleman sucks and he knows it. Hard to dispute this at this point.
Man, I can't remember ever being this down on my team.
Just let Gettleman coach the f***'ing team too.
No interview from Rivera or Rhule that should tell us all we need to know about what they think of Gettleman and Mara. The spin we wanted Judge all along. Gettleman is such a phony I bet it will be pure comedy gold when he has the press conference for this debacle. Gettleman’s words are probably just as truthful as the orange faced d-bag that sits in the big White House.
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 7, 2020 14:57:49 GMT -5
Hard to dispute this at this point.
Man, I can't remember ever being this down on my team.
Just let Gettleman coach the f***'ing team too.
No interview from Rivera or Rhule that should tell us all we need to know about what they think of Gettleman and Mara. The spin we wanted Judge all along. Gettleman is such a phony I bet it will be pure comedy gold when he has the press conference for this debacle. Gettleman’s words are probably just as truthful as the orange faced d-bag that sits in the big White House. Good story, except that Rhule gave the Giants a chance to match the Panthers' offer and the Giants declined.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 14:59:50 GMT -5
Hard to dispute this at this point.
Man, I can't remember ever being this down on my team.
Just let Gettleman coach the f***'ing team too.
No interview from Rivera or Rhule that should tell us all we need to know about what they think of Gettleman and Mara. The spin we wanted Judge all along. Gettleman is such a phony I bet it will be pure comedy gold when he has the press conference for this debacle. Gettleman’s words are probably just as truthful as the orange faced d-bag that sits in the big White House.Vote Trump in 2020 to keep making America great again!!
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 7, 2020 15:09:24 GMT -5
No interview from Rivera or Rhule that should tell us all we need to know about what they think of Gettleman and Mara. The spin we wanted Judge all along. Gettleman is such a phony I bet it will be pure comedy gold when he has the press conference for this debacle. Gettleman’s words are probably just as truthful as the orange faced d-bag that sits in the big White House.Vote Trump in 2020 to keep making America great again!! Hee hee
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 7, 2020 15:30:12 GMT -5
No interview from Rivera or Rhule that should tell us all we need to know about what they think of Gettleman and Mara. The spin we wanted Judge all along. Gettleman is such a phony I bet it will be pure comedy gold when he has the press conference for this debacle. Gettleman’s words are probably just as truthful as the orange faced d-bag that sits in the big White House. Good story, except that Rhule gave the Giants a chance to match the Panthers' offer and the Giants declined.
Who leaked this story about Rhule trying to match? Was it someone in the Giants organization or Rhule himself?
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Post by solomonphoenix on Jan 7, 2020 15:43:54 GMT -5
Jones seems like an excellent choice, Dexter Lawrence looks good, Connelly was a starter before getting hurt and played well, X man shows signs of a player who can contribute and Slayton pretty much replaced Beckham. That’s a productive draft and if the CBs take a significant step then it was a home run. BJ Hill might not have sacks but has played pretty good. Carter is playing all over the defense and had another 5 sack season .Hernandez is fine these are second year players that will get better, add that to what you just listed. Both drafts were productive the first one was tougher didn't even have a full year to prepare and dealt with the Cancer for 7 months. Think it will be even better this year. This ship wasn't turning on a dime. It's now year 3 of the new GM regime though. What are your expectations for the season? This rebuild should be in full swing. Real progress should be made. The team STILL has an OL problem and there are still a ton of holes to fill. You feel good about it?
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Post by tjs418 on Jan 7, 2020 16:20:19 GMT -5
Can we all agree we are no better off than we were 3 years ago.
Gettleman should have been shit canned with Shurmur
Now if this new hc is a bust we got to find a new gm and new hc
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Post by southerner on Jan 7, 2020 16:22:23 GMT -5
Can we all agree we are no better off than we were 3 years ago. Gettleman should have been shit canned with Shurmur Now if this new hc is a bust we got to find a new gm and new hc No, they are much better than they were 3 years ago....and one would have to be totally clueless to think otherwise.
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Post by southerner on Jan 7, 2020 16:23:53 GMT -5
Actually it was 3 steps forward....try again. If firing Reese was 3 steps forward, then hiring Gettleman was 4 steps back. Anyone who isn't delusional would say this franchise isn't any better than the day before Gettleman took over. We're coming off a 4 win season, and somehow this team has *MORE* holes to fill than the previous year. Only a fool would say it wasn’t much better now than three years ago.
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Post by tjs418 on Jan 7, 2020 16:28:45 GMT -5
If firing Reese was 3 steps forward, then hiring Gettleman was 4 steps back. Anyone who isn't delusional would say this franchise isn't any better than the day before Gettleman took over. We're coming off a 4 win season, and somehow this team has *MORE* holes to fill than the previous year. Only a fool would say it wasn’t much better now than three years ago. 4wins isnt much better than anything
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Post by southerner on Jan 7, 2020 16:31:56 GMT -5
Only a fool would say it wasn’t much better now than three years ago. 4wins isnt much better than anything Please....if that is all you got you best study up little guy before discussing with the big dogs.
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Post by Dogecoin on Jan 7, 2020 16:39:09 GMT -5
Gettleman is a dunce but at least the new HC isn't a "safe" (i.e. proven loser) like shurmur or Garrett. I'm willing to give the JJ a chance
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Post by jmike on Jan 7, 2020 16:43:41 GMT -5
Hard to be a proven liar when to date not a single person has been able to provide a single verified lie that he has told. One would think in order to prove something you would need some verified evidence of the accusation. Wow another person with their head up their ass. So you don't have an example of a lie then? Thought so.
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Post by jmike on Jan 7, 2020 16:57:51 GMT -5
Can we all agree we are no better off than we were 3 years ago. - No we can'tGettleman should have been shit canned with Shurmur - Maybe, really hard to tell since we only have a superficial view of what he has done. Results are not promising so far, but 2 seasons is not enough to fully evaluate his performance with the limited access that we as fans have.Now if this new hc is a bust we got to find a new gm and new hc - How would this be different regardless of who was hired as HC?..
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 7, 2020 17:29:09 GMT -5
Hard to be a proven liar when to date not a single person has been able to provide a single verified lie that he has told. One would think in order to prove something you would need some verified evidence of the accusation. Wow another person with their head up their ass. Don't blame her for pointing out what anyone paying attention already knew. Alternatively you could prove her wrong but I doubt you'll choose that path.
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Post by thetruth on Jan 7, 2020 17:53:13 GMT -5
Can we all agree we are no better off than we were 3 years ago. - No we can't
Are you suggesting that we're better, or not? If we're better, how? if not, what exactly are you saying?Gettleman should have been shit canned with Shurmur - Maybe, really hard to tell since we only have a superficial view of what he has done. Results are not promising so far, but 2 seasons is not enough to fully evaluate his performance with the limited access that we as fans have.You dont need access to know an acquisition(s) are bad or not. Two seasons was enough to evaluate Shurmur?
Now if this new hc is a bust we got to find a new gm and new hc - How would this be different regardless of who was hired as HC?.. ..
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Post by thetruth on Jan 7, 2020 17:55:29 GMT -5
Good story, except that Rhule gave the Giants a chance to match the Panthers' offer and the Giants declined.
Who leaked this story about Rhule trying to match? Was it someone in the Giants organization or Rhule himself? You know, there is a ton of value in public relations. Evidenced here. No one knows the truth, sadly. However, our resident insider YAtitle mentioned that coaches didn't want to sign with the Giants. quite simply because of Gettlemen. If history has taught me anything, its that YA generally has some pretty good sources in that building.
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Post by thetruth on Jan 7, 2020 17:57:09 GMT -5
No interview from Rivera or Rhule that should tell us all we need to know about what they think of Gettleman and Mara. The spin we wanted Judge all along. Gettleman is such a phony I bet it will be pure comedy gold when he has the press conference for this debacle. Gettleman’s words are probably just as truthful as the orange faced d-bag that sits in the big White House. Good story, except that Rhule gave the Giants a chance to match the Panthers' offer and the Giants declined.
The offer wasn't all financial. Rhule wanted more power in selecting personnel. He wasn't going to get that. As per Ben Allbright
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 7, 2020 18:04:14 GMT -5
Can we all agree we are no better off than we were 3 years ago. Gettleman should have been shit canned with Shurmur Now if this new hc is a bust we got to find a new gm and new hc No, they are much better than they were 3 years ago....and one would have to be totally clueless to think otherwise. They had 3 wins three years ago, and just came off a 4 win season. Care to explain why we’re “much” better now? Or should I just chalk this up to everyone is being clueless ?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 7, 2020 18:16:00 GMT -5
Who leaked this story about Rhule trying to match? Was it someone in the Giants organization or Rhule himself? You know, there is a ton of value in public relations. Evidenced here. No one knows the truth, sadly. However, our resident insider YAtitle mentioned that coaches didn't want to sign with the Giants. quite simply because of Gettlemen. If history has taught me anything, its that YA generally has some pretty good sources in that building. No one wants to answer that question
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Post by thetruth on Jan 7, 2020 18:29:38 GMT -5
You know, there is a ton of value in public relations. Evidenced here. No one knows the truth, sadly. However, our resident insider YAtitle mentioned that coaches didn't want to sign with the Giants. quite simply because of Gettlemen. If history has taught me anything, its that YA generally has some pretty good sources in that building. No one wants to answer that question Easier to ignore things you dont want to believe. Ben Allbright has some of the best sources in the industry and he's saying virtually the same thing YA did. The Giants declined to match the offer is 100% true, but context matters. Rhule was always going to go with the team that let me run his program the way he sees fit. For the Giants sake, I hope keeping Gettlemen was worth it. Who knows how well Rhule will work out over there and how well Judge will perform here. However, looking at this for what it is, passing on Rhule because you want Gettlemen to continue running personnel involves some exceptionally strange logic from our FO As I always say, can't mix sentimentality and business.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 7, 2020 18:33:06 GMT -5
You know, there is a ton of value in public relations. Evidenced here. No one knows the truth, sadly. However, our resident insider YAtitle mentioned that coaches didn't want to sign with the Giants. quite simply because of Gettlemen. If history has taught me anything, its that YA generally has some pretty good sources in that building. No one wants to answer that question I believe it. There was rumors of this not long ago, and odd that his time in Carolina which was met with winning seasons ended with being fired after only 4 years. It’s all speculation but I would not be shocked if this has truth to it. And if this is true we have a major problem in our organization.
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