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Post by TCHOF on Jul 31, 2019 13:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 31, 2019 13:36:24 GMT -5
Why another guard when Flowers is playing LT?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 15:54:55 GMT -5
he will be fine and prove its easier to protect a younger guy .
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 31, 2019 16:24:10 GMT -5
What else can we say about this guy? He has an IQ of a Lima bean and a face only a mother would love. Tackling dummies are kicking his ass in practice.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 31, 2019 19:52:52 GMT -5
he will be fine and prove its easier to protect a younger guy . Yea right ! Flowers will become a good OL and Collins will be better than average in pass coverage. And Washington's gonna rock with these ex Giants.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 20:17:43 GMT -5
> flowers
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 20:37:16 GMT -5
he will be fine and prove its easier to protect a younger guy . Yea right ! Flowers will become a good OL and Collins will be better than average in pass coverage. And Washington's gonna rock with these ex Giants. according to fans here he wouldnt even make another team. but he keeps proving them wrong.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 31, 2019 21:37:42 GMT -5
Yea right ! Flowers will become a good OL and Collins will be better than average in pass coverage. And Washington's gonna rock with these ex Giants. according to fans here he wouldnt even make another team. but he keeps proving them wrong. another team and another team yeah....he's a keeper
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Post by GameTime on Jul 31, 2019 21:41:31 GMT -5
he will be fine and prove its easier to protect a younger guy . Damn you Eli!! Even making a bad player seem worse!!!
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 31, 2019 21:46:31 GMT -5
Yea right ! Flowers will become a good OL and Collins will be better than average in pass coverage. And Washington's gonna rock with these ex Giants. according to fans here he wouldnt even make another team. but he keeps proving them wrong. Well his rabbi in Jacksonville cut him, but apparently he has made the Skins?! Yay!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 22:57:31 GMT -5
he will be fine and prove its easier to protect a younger guy . Damn you Eli!! Even making a bad player seem worse!!! how did he make a stud like nate solder look?
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Post by GameTime on Jul 31, 2019 23:04:14 GMT -5
Damn you Eli!! Even making a bad player seem worse!!! how did he make a stud like nate solder look? Really no issue with Solder in relation to Eli. Nate played very average and it has nothing to do with Eli at all. Solder was never known as a "stud" when the Giants went for him so dont twist your words to make it seem like Eli ruined another all pro. Nice try though. Also nice job using Solder to deflect from your Flowers/Eli agenda........ Two nice try's but you pretty much whiffed.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 23:06:24 GMT -5
how did he make a stud like nate solder look? Really no issue with Solder in relation to Eli. Nate played very average and it has nothing to do with Eli at all. Solder was never known as a "stud" when the Giants went for him so dont twist your words to make it seem like Eli ruined another all pro. Nice try though. Also nice job using Solder to deflect from your Flowers/Eli agenda........ Two nice try's but you pretty much whiffed..... really the touted best LT in FA? and i remember fans whining all season how bad he looked with us.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 31, 2019 23:14:11 GMT -5
Really no issue with Solder in relation to Eli. Nate played very average and it has nothing to do with Eli at all. Solder was never known as a "stud" when the Giants went for him so dont twist your words to make it seem like Eli ruined another all pro. Nice try though. Also nice job using Solder to deflect from your Flowers/Eli agenda........ Two nice try's but you pretty much whiffed..... really the touted best LT in FA? and i remember fans whining all season how bad he looked with us. How does "the best LT" in the FA market equal stud?.....it doesnt. It just means he was the best LT available at the time. Solder had an average season. if you want to whine like some of the fans you mentioned and blame Eli for that then have at it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 23:16:25 GMT -5
really the touted best LT in FA? and i remember fans whining all season how bad he looked with us. How does "the best LT" in the FA market equal stud?.....it doesnt. It just means he was the best LT available at the time. Solder had an average season. if you want to whine like some of the fans you mentioned and blame Eli for that then have at it. so you arent even going to consider that an aging statue type QB may have made good players look bad as far as line play?
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Post by GameTime on Jul 31, 2019 23:21:28 GMT -5
How does "the best LT" in the FA market equal stud?.....it doesnt. It just means he was the best LT available at the time. Solder had an average season. if you want to whine like some of the fans you mentioned and blame Eli for that then have at it. so you arent even going to consider that an aging statue type QB may have made good players look bad as far as line play? I never bashed Solder. I think he played ok. Nothing great. If you watch his game and even if you take away any plays where Eli folded Nate still had just an ok season. Its really not a hard thing to comprehend. I am excited to see Jones sooner rather later and I feel Eli is done, With that said it doesn't mean every player on the offensive was better than they seemed. A view like that is just wrong. The oline had issue above and beyond Eli just like Eli's issue were not all on the oline.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 23:30:07 GMT -5
so you arent even going to consider that an aging statue type QB may have made good players look bad as far as line play? I never bashed Solder. I think he played ok. Nothing great. If you watch his game and even if you take away any plays where Eli folded Nate still had just an ok season. Its really not a hard thing to comprehend. I am excited to see Jones sooner rather later and I feel Eli is done, With that said it doesn't mean every player on the offensive was better than they seemed. A view like that is just wrong. The oline had issue above and beyond Eli just like Eli's issue were not all on the oline. well many did blame solder for the first half of the season record. just as many blamed flowers the year before. im simply saying maybe they looked worse than they are because the qb wasnt quicker on his feet moving around and stepping up in the pocket. thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/1119/nate-solder-sucks
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Post by Waybackfan on Aug 1, 2019 5:57:05 GMT -5
Washington knows talent. They have an uncanny ability to get the best out of players.
They are known for their genius in drafting.
They are the best NFL franchise.
Dan Snyder is a genius. He makes Jerry Jones look like a piker.
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 1, 2019 7:02:25 GMT -5
he will be fine and prove its easier to protect a younger guy . Damn you Eli!! Even making a bad player seem worse!!! Dude cant find any thread that cant be made to be about Eli...
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Post by GameTime on Aug 1, 2019 7:14:07 GMT -5
I never bashed Solder. I think he played ok. Nothing great. If you watch his game and even if you take away any plays where Eli folded Nate still had just an ok season. Its really not a hard thing to comprehend. I am excited to see Jones sooner rather later and I feel Eli is done, With that said it doesn't mean every player on the offensive was better than they seemed. A view like that is just wrong. The oline had issue above and beyond Eli just like Eli's issue were not all on the oline. well many did blame solder for the first half of the season record. just as many blamed flowers the year before. im simply saying maybe they looked worse than they are because the qb wasnt quicker on his feet moving around and stepping up in the pocket. thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/1119/nate-solder-sucksso you are simply saying its Eli's fault once again. How ever you slice it up the oline has stunk overall for years. Eli hasnt played well either. They both have under performed and affected each other's performance as a result . Its really no mystery and no agenda. Doesnt matter what fan says what because the reality is what it is. If a mobil QB allows the oline to play less than good and still make plays is the oline still playing poorly? Its like the Yankees winning games 12-10. The pitching still sucks but the bats are making up for it
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Post by giants8493 on Aug 1, 2019 7:59:33 GMT -5
Yea right ! Flowers will become a good OL and Collins will be better than average in pass coverage. And Washington's gonna rock with these ex Giants. according to fans here he wouldnt even make another team. but he keeps proving them wrong. He didn't make the team yet...
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Post by giants8493 on Aug 1, 2019 8:05:11 GMT -5
How does "the best LT" in the FA market equal stud?.....it doesnt. It just means he was the best LT available at the time. Solder had an average season. if you want to whine like some of the fans you mentioned and blame Eli for that then have at it. so you arent even going to consider that an aging statue type QB may have made good players look bad as far as line play? well that certainly does not seem to be a factor in new England. Quite the opposite is true. I don't see how age itself is much of a factor... You can argue mobility but a lot of guys will tell you it is easier to block for a qb knowing exactly where he is going to be vs a Mobile qb who could be in the pocket or could be scrambling. The oline came really tell what the qb is doing when he is busy blocking an assorted monster in front of him... Now a quick release vs holding the ball for too long. THAT would be the biggest factor in a qb affecting perceived oline play.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 12:58:49 GMT -5
so you arent even going to consider that an aging statue type QB may have made good players look bad as far as line play? well that certainly does not seem to be a factor in new England. Quite the opposite is true. I don't see how age itself is much of a factor... You can argue mobility but a lot of guys will tell you it is easier to block for a qb knowing exactly where he is going to be vs a Mobile qb who could be in the pocket or could be scrambling. The oline came really tell what the qb is doing when he is busy blocking an assorted monster in front of him... Now a quick release vs holding the ball for too long. THAT would be the biggest factor in a qb affecting perceived oline play. brady s more athletic than eli , i believe he has a 1000 yards scrambling if im not mistaken.
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Post by giants8493 on Aug 1, 2019 16:52:07 GMT -5
well that certainly does not seem to be a factor in new England. Quite the opposite is true. I don't see how age itself is much of a factor... You can argue mobility but a lot of guys will tell you it is easier to block for a qb knowing exactly where he is going to be vs a Mobile qb who could be in the pocket or could be scrambling. The oline came really tell what the qb is doing when he is busy blocking an assorted monster in front of him... Now a quick release vs holding the ball for too long. THAT would be the biggest factor in a qb affecting perceived oline play. brady s more athletic than eli , i believe he has a 1000 yards scrambling if im not mistaken. He is also a statue in the pocket that collapses at the first sign of pressure.
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Post by Kase1 on Aug 1, 2019 17:48:17 GMT -5
Good thing he took up boxing a few offseasons ago.... smh, clown
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 1, 2019 22:15:24 GMT -5
brady s more athletic than eli , i believe he has a 1000 yards scrambling if im not mistaken. He is also a statue in the pocket that collapses at the first sign of pressure. He certainly cant handle pressure up the middle in his face. We've proven that twice.
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Post by Waybackfan on Aug 2, 2019 5:11:58 GMT -5
Brady has a flexible left ankle.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 2, 2019 7:17:25 GMT -5
Yea right ! Flowers will become a good OL and Collins will be better than average in pass coverage. And Washington's gonna rock with these ex Giants. according to fans here he wouldnt even make another team. but he keeps proving them wrong. As a Giants fan you have to be hoping that Williams doesn’t come back and Flowers is the starting LT for the Skins.
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 2, 2019 7:51:56 GMT -5
How does "the best LT" in the FA market equal stud?.....it doesnt. It just means he was the best LT available at the time. Solder had an average season. if you want to whine like some of the fans you mentioned and blame Eli for that then have at it. so you arent even going to consider that an aging statue type QB may have made good players look bad as far as line play? Some people are able to think about things other than Eli. To measure things all on there own.
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Post by SkinsLifer on Aug 9, 2019 11:05:00 GMT -5
I will be mildly surprised if Flowers makes the 53 man roster. He stunk it up pretty bad last night. Numerous holding calls and false starts.
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