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Post by gmen21 on Dec 9, 2019 23:43:38 GMT -5
He is out coached every game. What’s his nfl HC record now?
A Flea flicker on 3rd and 13! Lol! Pure comic relief.
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Post by jay051 on Dec 9, 2019 23:51:09 GMT -5
Apparently he doesn't know how to call a timeout with 44 secs left to give his team one last chance to win at the end of regulation. There's no excuse for his blunder.
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Post by PennState1 on Dec 9, 2019 23:51:50 GMT -5
He’s a useless moron
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 23:53:16 GMT -5
Apparently he doesn't know how to call a timeout with 44 secs left to give his team one last chance to win at the end of regulation. There's no excuse for his blunder. And then finally calls it only to take a knee |
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Post by allnygin on Dec 9, 2019 23:54:09 GMT -5
I'm am praying I wake up and see "Pat Shurmur fired as HC from the New York Football Giants" .. IDC who the f the interim is.
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 9, 2019 23:54:16 GMT -5
Apparently he doesn't know how to call a timeout with 44 secs left to give his team one last chance to win at the end of regulation. There's no excuse for his blunder. Yep! There’s another one! The guy is absolutely awful. |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 9, 2019 23:54:31 GMT -5
He was so thoroughly outcoached Peterson had to be Keeping himself from laughing when they shook hands at the end.
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 9, 2019 23:55:52 GMT -5
I'm am praying I wake up and see "Pat Shurmur fired as HC from the New York Football Giants" .. IDC who the f the interim is. Same. His tenure needs to end right now. 9 game losing streak. Our roster isn’t that bad, That’s on coaching. |
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Post by nygfanstrick on Dec 9, 2019 23:57:00 GMT -5
He is out coached every game. What’s his nfl HC record now? A Flea flicker on 3rd and 13! Lol! Pure comic relief. To be fair the flea flicker had Tate wide open over the middle it looked like. That being said with our OL definitely a ballsy call. Shurmur is horrible though. Him and Gettleman need to be a package deal out of NY |
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 10, 2019 0:00:52 GMT -5
This just in!
Shurmur simultaneously throws challenge flag and calls a timeout during his press conference.
Both were rejected.
Shurmur throws arms up in confusion.
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 10, 2019 0:02:10 GMT -5
He is out coached every game. What’s his nfl HC record now? A Flea flicker on 3rd and 13! Lol! Pure comic relief. To be fair the flea flicker had Tate wide open over the middle it looked like. That being said with our OL definitely a ballsy call. Shurmur is horrible though. Him and Gettleman need to be a package deal out of NY Defenses don’t fold on a flea flicker when it’s 3rd and long, because there is no threat to run. That play only works when there is a threat to run! |
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Post by nygfanstrick on Dec 10, 2019 1:23:38 GMT -5
To be fair the flea flicker had Tate wide open over the middle it looked like. That being said with our OL definitely a ballsy call. Shurmur is horrible though. Him and Gettleman need to be a package deal out of NY Defenses don’t fold on a flea flicker when it’s 3rd and long, because there is no threat to run. That play only works when there is a threat to run! They did bite. Not enough time. Obviously not my favorite call, but it could have been a huge player if the protection held (which rarely does with us lol) |
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Post by theproblem on Dec 10, 2019 2:26:45 GMT -5
That's a TD if solder holds his block...
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 10, 2019 6:22:25 GMT -5
Defenses don’t fold on a flea flicker when it’s 3rd and long, because there is no threat to run. That play only works when there is a threat to run! They did bite. Not enough time. Obviously not my favorite call, but it could have been a huge player if the protection held (which rarely does with us lol) Oh wow! Thanks for posting...I didn’t realize Tate was open down field! |
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Post by nick030567 on Dec 10, 2019 9:16:10 GMT -5
To be fair the flea flicker had Tate wide open over the middle it looked like. That being said with our OL definitely a ballsy call. Shurmur is horrible though. Him and Gettleman need to be a package deal out of NY Defenses don’t fold on a flea flicker when it’s 3rd and long, because there is no threat to run. That play only works when there is a threat to run! Wasn't a bad call. Teams do use the draw in 3rd and long quite often. The Defense bit big time but Solder blows so he screwed the entire play up. Would've been a td. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 9:21:10 GMT -5
Defenses don’t fold on a flea flicker when it’s 3rd and long, because there is no threat to run. That play only works when there is a threat to run! Wasn't a bad call. Teams do use the draw in 3rd and long quite often. The Defense bit big time but Solder blows so he screwed the entire play up. Would've been a td. I'll disagree because at that time Solder was getting beat early and often so you don't make that call without at least providing him some TE help. So yes they fooled them but still didn't have a good idea how to implement the play.. |
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Post by smitty on Dec 10, 2019 9:25:43 GMT -5
Shurmur’s in game clock mismanagement is likely a league-wide running joke at this point.
It’s almost like he has no concept of the game of football itself, the flow of the game or automatic situational calls. He literally sat on three TO’s at the end of regulation, content to lose in OT.
He’s done this several times this year.
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Post by nick030567 on Dec 10, 2019 9:26:53 GMT -5
Wasn't a bad call. Teams do use the draw in 3rd and long quite often. The Defense bit big time but Solder blows so he screwed the entire play up. Would've been a td. I'll disagree because at that time Solder was getting beat early and often so you don't make that call without at least providing him some TE help. So yes they fooled them but still didn't have a good idea how to implement the play.. True, they should be aware of their deficiencies and adjust accordingly. I just mean that generally speaking the play call in that situation wasn't necessarily bad. I'd be more likely to make that call on a 1st or 2nd down, or 3rd and short though. |
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Post by jaymas on Dec 10, 2019 9:28:56 GMT -5
Apparently he doesn't know how to call a timeout with 44 secs left to give his team one last chance to win at the end of regulation. There's no excuse for his blunder. This was so mind boggling. |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 10, 2019 9:29:46 GMT -5
You can see the safety bit so the announcers were wrong. Although It was such a mess at the LOS, Eli would’ve had a second to throw it. There was a WR breaking down the right seam. It’s a good play if you’re not Shurmur.
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Post by jaymas on Dec 10, 2019 9:30:17 GMT -5
They did bite. Not enough time. Obviously not my favorite call, but it could have been a huge player if the protection held (which rarely does with us lol) Oh wow! Thanks for posting...I didn’t realize Tate was open down field! Yeah, I didn't mind this call at all. It's one of those where if it works, it's brilliant. And when it doesn't everyone goes to the call. I do mind the rest of Pat Shurmur's coaching decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 9:32:00 GMT -5
Shurmur just gets worse as time goes on. A team that should be showing signs of improving literally gets worse over time. Now last night that might not be totally fair in that I saw some rookies step up and make plays, there was some good stuff in the first half, and we all know slayton is becoming an nfl receiver right before our eyes, but my god its like the guy purposefully threw the game last night, or was paid off and decided to dial down the offense. and yeah, his clock "management" might be the worst ive ever seen. the giants recent history has shown us as one of the worst teams at making adjustments in any level of football. year after year now we see our opponent adjust to defeat us in the second half, and we're always flat-footed. its infuriating to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 9:32:59 GMT -5
I'll disagree because at that time Solder was getting beat early and often so you don't make that call without at least providing him some TE help. So yes they fooled them but still didn't have a good idea how to implement the play.. True, they should be aware of their deficiencies and adjust accordingly. I just mean that generally speaking the play call in that situation wasn't necessarily bad. I'd be more likely to make that call on a 1st or 2nd down, or 3rd and short though. Doing it on a down where their DEs would be in full rush mode was dumb. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 10, 2019 9:35:25 GMT -5
Apparently he doesn't know how to call a timeout with 44 secs left to give his team one last chance to win at the end of regulation. There's no excuse for his blunder. I was kinda torn there. If they call the TO with 44 sec left, and philly goes for it, and converts (probable), then has those last few seconds to set up a game winning FG, we would all kill him for it too. |
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Post by nick030567 on Dec 10, 2019 9:40:02 GMT -5
True, they should be aware of their deficiencies and adjust accordingly. I just mean that generally speaking the play call in that situation wasn't necessarily bad. I'd be more likely to make that call on a 1st or 2nd down, or 3rd and short though. Doing it on a down where their DEs would be in full rush mode was dumb. Very true, a decent OL could probably get it done. But they do not have a decent OL. |
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 10, 2019 9:42:49 GMT -5
Apparently he doesn't know how to call a timeout with 44 secs left to give his team one last chance to win at the end of regulation. There's no excuse for his blunder. I was kinda torn there. If they call the TO with 44 sec left, and philly goes for it, and converts (probable), then has those last few seconds to set up a game winning FG, we would all kill him for it too. Philly still had two time outs. If they were going for it they would have called one. All they were doing was trying to create the illusion that they would go for it to keep the clock running and not give the Giants the ball with any time left......And of course, Pat fell for it.
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Post by jay051 on Dec 10, 2019 9:59:31 GMT -5
Apparently he doesn't know how to call a timeout with 44 secs left to give his team one last chance to win at the end of regulation. There's no excuse for his blunder. I was kinda torn there. If they call the TO with 44 sec left, and philly goes for it, and converts (probable), then has those last few seconds to set up a game winning FG, we would all kill him for it too. I hear you but I wouldn't have killed PS for that because its the only thing that made sense in that situation. I had this conversation with another poster last night and I told him that had Shurmur called a t.o. right away then Pederson would have punted. No way he goes for it there in his own territory because they don't convert then the giants are 10 yards away from fg range. Pederson outsmarted Shurmur there and pretended he was going for it. The giants offense did nothing in the 2nd half. My money is on the eagles punting in that situation. |
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Post by jay051 on Dec 10, 2019 10:02:02 GMT -5
I was kinda torn there. If they call the TO with 44 sec left, and philly goes for it, and converts (probable), then has those last few seconds to set up a game winning FG, we would all kill him for it too. Philly still had two time outs. If they were going for it they would have called one. All they were doing was trying to create the illusion that they would go for it to keep the clock running and not give the Giants the ball with any time left......And of course, Pat fell for it.
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