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Post by giants38 on Dec 13, 2019 23:17:51 GMT -5
This is what I dislike about DG his INDECISIVENESS, if you're just going to get rid of a player at the end of the season and have no interest in keeping him then trade him and get compensation for him he did this last year with Landon Collins. Dave Gettleman on Janoris Jenkins four months ago, as he propped up the mercurial corner as a leader: "Rabbit is a good guy. He’s a good person. He’s a good man."
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:17:59 GMT -5
After the debacle in front of his locker yesterday .... good point , i missed that , i still think it was more than this one twitter post. Shurmur who fumbles everything said it is the accumulation of things quit in 2017 has ruffled feathers more then once gave less then full effort embarrassingly more then once this year. and has not lived up to his contract.
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Post by giants38 on Dec 13, 2019 23:19:45 GMT -5
So, Baker is our #1 CB. :-) :-(
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:23:30 GMT -5
I guess all the work done with special needs people on behalf of the organization means nothing. Lets just forget it happened it's not right just like racial slurs or homophobic slurs . please don't use this to get all riled up the guy had spoken out of turn more then he should, has quit on the field on more then one occasion it all adds up. At least sound sincere when you apologize. I can tell Janoris Jenkins is one of your favorite players of all time. I could care less facts are facts.. How does the organization look with all the work they do with special needs people if they do nothing or fine him it is wrong in this day and age like or not. Then again if they did keep him when the media came down on them which already started the people would turn that on Mara or the GM this aint about them it is about a slur made about special needs people. With clown ass apology.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 13, 2019 23:26:27 GMT -5
I can tell Janoris Jenkins is one of your favorite players of all time. I could care less facts are facts.. How does the organization look with all the work they do with special needs people if they do nothing or fine him it is wrong in this day and age like or not. Then again if they did keep him when the media came down on them which already started the people would turn that on Mara or the GM this aint about them it is about a slur made about special needs people. With clown ass apology. Have a snickers blue. You’re obviously bothered with his comment. And trust me so am I. I hate that ******* word!
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Post by giants38 on Dec 13, 2019 23:26:43 GMT -5
Don’t look now but Baker one of the highest graded CB’s league wide last 2 weeks. Just saying. Who was he covering against the Eagles? They didn't have a WR on the field by the end of the game. Hey! McCowan was ready to go.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:29:26 GMT -5
I have no way of knowing one way or the other. But this is crazy to even use it as an excuse. Im just guessing here but maybe they felt they can appease the pc crowd and also get rid of him as they were going to do anyway in a few months. The media was already circling these things matter in our society today to me it was part of my generation growing using this term. In the end most of us learned it is incentive but obviously we have several people who think it is still executable. The coach did say it was more then the one issue we have seen the half stepping effort but none of us are in the building.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:34:45 GMT -5
I could care less facts are facts.. How does the organization look with all the work they do with special needs people if they do nothing or fine him it is wrong in this day and age like or not. Then again if they did keep him when the media came down on them which already started the people would turn that on Mara or the GM this aint about them it is about a slur made about special needs people. With clown ass apology. Have a snickers blue. You’re obviously bothered with his comment. And trust me so am I. I hate that ******* word! It Fing pisses me off that this would be a no win situation here because it's not about what he said it is about piling on the the organization owner GM coach. What he said wasn't right. I'm a freakin blue collar high school grad and get this better then some of our college educated geniuses on here.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:41:10 GMT -5
Was thinking the exact same thing...no way he was released solely due to the Tweet. I think it was a strategic move by the organization. They don't want to make it appear like the locker room is lost..they want to make it appear like they are rebuilding a culture that has turned toxic with this release. The way this has unfolded makes me feel like Shurmur will be back next year. I don't understand this logic at all. It isn't hard to understand really. He has said things he shouldn't and done less on the field. Like playing windmill with Jarwin on monday night football guy is one of the highest paid players all he needed to do is do his job not fight with fans or insult coaches or quit in front of rookies. There is no logic here he acted like a fool more then once quit more then once . They had enough people are over complicating this.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 13, 2019 23:46:14 GMT -5
Have a snickers blue. You’re obviously bothered with his comment. And trust me so am I. I hate that ******* word! It Fing pisses me off that this would be a no win situation here because it's not about what he said it is about piling on the the organization owner GM coach. What he said wasn't right. I'm a freakin blue collar high school grad and get this better then some of our college educated geniuses on here.When was it about you? Were you the fan who criticized him on social media? If not he’s not talking about you. You’re taking it personal now, God when did the human species become so thin skin?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:55:16 GMT -5
It Fing pisses me off that this would be a no win situation here because it's not about what he said it is about piling on the the organization owner GM coach. What he said wasn't right. I'm a freakin blue collar high school grad and get this better then some of our college educated geniuses on here.When was it about you? Were you the fan who criticized him on social media? If not he’s not talking about you. You’re taking it personal now, God when did the human species become so thin skin? It is about educated people thinking this fine it's not special needs people are defenseless. All the player needed to do was make a sincere apology. The media was already circling like buzzards . That said with this individual to even think the team over stepped by cutting him is way off base. This alone gets you on the hot seat quiting and talking out of line did the rest. This guy was one of highest paid players he needed to do better in every way. Sorry this is one time the team is right.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:57:33 GMT -5
I guess all the work done with special needs people on behalf of the organization means nothing. Lets just forget it happened it's not right just like racial slurs or homophobic slurs . please don't use this to get all riled up the guy had spoken out of turn more then he should, has quit on the field on more then one occasion it all adds up. At least sound sincere when you apologize. I can tell Janoris Jenkins is one of your favorite players of all time. I actually really liked him but by the end of 2017 not so much don't like quitters.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 13, 2019 23:59:30 GMT -5
I can tell Janoris Jenkins is one of your favorite players of all time. I actually really liked him but by the end of 2017 not so much don't like quitters. You must not like Baker then. Twice now it was clear he let up on plays on the field. You know, “ quitting on a play.” I hate those type of players..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2019 23:59:38 GMT -5
Can't read through everything at work, but did we really take a 14.5M cap hit for this?? I've also seen we're taking an $11M hit. I've also seen we're taking a $3.5M hit. If we took a hit, I really, really hope it's only $3.5M.....I'm sick of sticking up for DG and don't know if I can do it if we lose $14.5M for not waiting a few more weeks to release him. Appreciate any insight! Only 3.5 of his 14.5 was guaranteed, saved 11m by him not being on 2020 roster. He was a goner either way, now or in three weeks..... If someone signs him they are on the hook for 10.5 I read either way sometimes you have to bite the bullet.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 0:02:18 GMT -5
I actually really liked him but by the end of 2017 not so much don't like quitters. You must not like Baker then. Twice now it was clear he let up on plays on the field. You know, “quitting on a play.” I hate those type of players.. He's a rookie see if he learns from watching what happened to a quitter. I can't be sure he has ever played matador yet, we will see. He will be on my $#!t list to.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 0:05:52 GMT -5
Gettleman is an absolute idiot for not trading him at the deadline. Are you seeing him play and his salary good luck maybe if we paid most of his contract like the Jets did with Williams.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 5:29:30 GMT -5
It's actually proper English. The dictionary says "retard = a person effected by mental retardation". Now I'm not sure if the fan was in fact a retard. I'd like to point out how classy this board is though. I used the same word a few months back and I only received a warning, Jenkins lost his ****ing job and millions of dollars lol. Once you start talking around here the door isn't far behind. Retard is a word...it means to slow down, hold back. A verb. Children that were slow in learning were called that. They were. The only reason is became offensive is because children (and athletes) began referring to others in insult, no matter if they were "retarded" or not..."you f'ing retard". They used the word, a legit word...as an insult. So, the snowflake generation, thought police.... felt, words can hurt...and that word is horrible. So versus logic, they made that word offensive...and replaced it with..."special". Of course, kids now insult others by saying "are you f'ing special" or...."you sound special" No matter what the word, it will always simply be the context of a word. Engine braking in trucks are still called retarders. I wonder why they are insulting the trucks?
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Post by Roswell on Dec 14, 2019 6:46:14 GMT -5
There was a lot of quit in Jenkins. We’ve all seen it firsthand.
Add that to stupidly doubling down on his comment.
Then figure in his salary, a 2-11 record, a beleaguered coach trying to show his ship has a rudder, a GM that didn’t sign him, an owner that has put an inferior product on the field for 6 out of the last 7 years (and his concern about optics) and this is what you get.
It isn’t about one poorly worded tweet.
It rarely ever is.
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Post by titowooten on Dec 14, 2019 7:02:30 GMT -5
Only 3.5 of his 14.5 was guaranteed, saved 11m by him not being on 2020 roster. He was a goner either way, now or in three weeks..... If someone signs him they are on the hook for 10.5 I read either way sometimes you have to bite the bullet. depends if he was waived or just cut. either way nobody is going to pick him up off of waivers so he'll be a free agent who can negotiate and sign a new contract.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 14, 2019 7:22:06 GMT -5
I don't understand this logic at all. It isn't hard to understand really. He has said things he shouldn't and done less on the field. Like playing windmill with Jarwin on monday night football guy is one of the highest paid players all he needed to do is do his job not fight with fans or insult coaches or quit in front of rookies. There is no logic here he acted like a fool more then once quit more then once . They had enough people are over complicating this. I meant I don’t understand how he thinks that any of this means that Shurmur will be back next year
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 14, 2019 8:04:55 GMT -5
This thread is turning retarded...just sayin' You're fired!!!
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Post by Roswell on Dec 14, 2019 8:38:02 GMT -5
I will be shocked if the Chiefs don't pick him up.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 14, 2019 8:43:06 GMT -5
Gettleman is really good at releasing players.
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Post by DrRumack on Dec 14, 2019 9:05:28 GMT -5
I'm a freakin blue collar high school grad and get this better then some of our college educated geniuses on here. “than”
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 9:22:32 GMT -5
It isn't hard to understand really. He has said things he shouldn't and done less on the field. Like playing windmill with Jarwin on monday night football guy is one of the highest paid players all he needed to do is do his job not fight with fans or insult coaches or quit in front of rookies. There is no logic here he acted like a fool more then once quit more then once . They had enough people are over complicating this. I meant I don’t understand how he thinks that any of this means that Shurmur will be back next year Yea that is kind of out of the blue. Maybe because he thinks they can scapegoat Jenkens as the cause for the futility that has been the Giants. Mara might make mistakes but he is as pissed and sick of the losing as us.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 9:27:49 GMT -5
If someone signs him they are on the hook for 10.5 I read either way sometimes you have to bite the bullet. depends if he was waived or just cut. either way nobody is going to pick him up off of waivers so he'll be a free agent who can negotiate and sign a new contract. Think he was waived injured. I think that is his best chance to play again this year. If he can convince a team he will be a good citizen and play hard 100% of the time he will hook on he can be good but his career says average.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 9:30:47 GMT -5
I will be shocked if the Chiefs don't pick him up. It would be good for the Giants I believe. I don't know if he is any better then what they got. he has only had one real good year 2016 the rest is like 2017 through 2019 so so.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 9:40:03 GMT -5
This thread is turning retarded...just sayin' Luckily we are just a bunch of message boarders, not in the public eye, slaves to public opinion. Thats what being famous and making 12 mill year will do your expected to toe several lines the NFL the team and of course your own rep. It is nice being a simple man sometimes, you can call your buddy what ever you want with 0 back lash.
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Post by Bigjeep on Dec 14, 2019 9:43:47 GMT -5
This thread is turning retarded...just sayin' Luckily we are just a bunch of message boarders, not in the public eye, slaves to public opinion. Thats what being famous and making 12 mill year will do your expected to toe several lines the NFL the team and of course your own rep. It is nice being a simple man sometimes, you can call your buddy what ever you want with 0 back lash. You never want to be hunted down by the PC police. They will destroy you in the name of compassion and kindness!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 14, 2019 9:59:04 GMT -5
Luckily we are just a bunch of message boarders, not in the public eye, slaves to public opinion. Thats what being famous and making 12 mill year will do your expected to toe several lines the NFL the team and of course your own rep. It is nice being a simple man sometimes, you can call your buddy what ever you want with 0 back lash. You never want to be hunted down by the PC police. They will destroy you in the name of compassion and kindness! LOL We live in a world where what people say matters. But sometimes what they do gets a pass we live in a strange place.
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