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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 7:49:46 GMT -5
Hey fellas, finally I was able to find this place. It hidden in some secret corner of the internet and there was a weird guy blocking the door.
Anyway, after the 3rd preseason game how is everyone feeling about Shurmur, Saquon and Webb. Too me Shurmur looks to be a massive improvement over Mac. When we first announced him as the coach I was hoping he would bring his usual love of different looks with him and he has not disappointed. Gone are the Mac days of 90% 11 personnel. Even when Shurmur runs 11 it looks different.
Barkley is tough to judge for obvious reasons but my hopes for him are growing. There was "the run" but more than that is how much Shurmur has been using Gallman (who I also really like) in the passing game. Once the season starts I think Barkley will be a tremendous asset to Eli. Like last year we go where the OL takes us. I think they will be much better than last year, even Flowers is an upgrade over Hart on the right side.
Webb has looked very good IMO. I would not want to roll with him this season, but the guy is flashing some nice potential.
Maybe I am too optimistic, what do you guys think? Nice boards btw.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 25, 2018 7:52:50 GMT -5
Welcome aboard..
Shurmur will be a very good HC.
Barkley.....we shall see of course but the needle is pointing way up.
Webb.....based on his current level of experience he looks pretty good. He needs time on the field which will be few and far between after preseason.
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Post by Eazy E on Aug 25, 2018 8:15:29 GMT -5
2 things from last night that jumped out. Shurmer is going to have an attacking style of offense. He is a good coach. He will utilize what he has and try to attack the defense. Notice how our options were few without Engram and we were still attacking.We would have had 3 points with the last two years mindset. Very good to see.
Second point. I know the running game was bad last night but we did come in ranked #9 in the nfl in preseason. If it was Barkley out there then it would have been different. However what I did notice was for the first time in years is Eli looked comfortable out there. Thats a huge development for this team. If Eli can have time and be set, he is going to attack the defense. Eli is in tremendous shape. I think he is out to prove something this year. If the Oline gets it together and adds a balanced running attack, you might see the return of play action Eli which will bode well for massive offensive production. Shurmur seems like he is not going to be shy at all this year which bodes well for Eli.
Ok maybe a third point, when was the last time we had a good special teams unit. That definitely jumped out as well. The ? will still linger for Rosas but not for the punter. The return game was solid (remember to tuck high and tight) and coverage was good. Was a good win. Keep progressing Gmen.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 8:24:13 GMT -5
However what I did notice was for the first time in years is Eli looked comfortable out there. That is a huge development. IF he feels good in the pocket I know he will make the correct reads and I think he can still make all the throws. Play action would be a huge asset for him as well. He was always at his best when he could use the PA. I have always like Rosas so I am glad to see he is looking good too. The punter looks to be better than we have had in years also. Plus a return for a TD? Huge upgrades. |
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Post by TEM on Aug 25, 2018 8:25:51 GMT -5
Good to see you buddy. You were right about the kicker . I was skeptical. He is winning me over.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 8:38:50 GMT -5
Good to see you buddy. You were right about the kicker . I was skeptical. He is winning me over. Glad I was able to find you guys haha. I was not right last year, he didn't do too good. My guess is the nerves got to him and the horrendous team overall effected him. He looks like a much better player this year. Happy to see him doing so well. |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 25, 2018 8:42:10 GMT -5
Good to see you buddy. You were right about the kicker . I was skeptical. He is winning me over. Glad I was able to find you guys haha. I was not right last year, he didn't do too good. My guess is the nerves got to him and the horrendous team overall effected him. He looks like a much better player this year. Happy to see him doing so well. Roasas looking better and Dixon is a keeper. Very good holder on FGs and PATs too. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 25, 2018 9:15:59 GMT -5
Hey fellas, finally I was able to find this place. It hidden in some secret corner of the internet and there was a weird guy blocking the door. Anyway, after the 3rd preseason game how is everyone feeling about Shurmur, Saquon and Webb. Too me Shurmur looks to be a massive improvement over Mac. When we first announced him as the coach I was hoping he would bring his usual love of different looks with him and he has not disappointed. Gone are the Mac days of 90% 11 personnel. Even when Shurmur runs 11 it looks different. Barkley is tough to judge for obvious reasons but my hopes for him are growing. There was "the run" but more than that is how much Shurmur has been using Gallman (who I also really like) in the passing game. Once the season starts I think Barkley will be a tremendous asset to Eli. Like last year we go where the OL takes us. I think they will be much better than last year, even Flowers is an upgrade over Hart on the right side. Webb has looked very good IMO. I would not want to roll with him this season, but the guy is flashing some nice potential. Maybe I am too optimistic, what do you guys think? Nice boards btw. Hey Mike! Great to see you, man. |
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Post by keyofgmen on Aug 25, 2018 9:22:29 GMT -5
Hey fellas, finally I was able to find this place. It hidden in some secret corner of the internet and there was a weird guy blocking the door. Anyway, after the 3rd preseason game how is everyone feeling about Shurmur, Saquon and Webb. Too me Shurmur looks to be a massive improvement over Mac. When we first announced him as the coach I was hoping he would bring his usual love of different looks with him and he has not disappointed. Gone are the Mac days of 90% 11 personnel. Even when Shurmur runs 11 it looks different. Barkley is tough to judge for obvious reasons but my hopes for him are growing. There was "the run" but more than that is how much Shurmur has been using Gallman (who I also really like) in the passing game. Once the season starts I think Barkley will be a tremendous asset to Eli. Like last year we go where the OL takes us. I think they will be much better than last year, even Flowers is an upgrade over Hart on the right side. Webb has looked very good IMO. I would not want to roll with him this season, but the guy is flashing some nice potential. Maybe I am too optimistic, what do you guys think? Nice boards btw. Hey Mike! Great to see you, man. Mike, better turn off your camera... people can see you!... 2hebpqr |
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 25, 2018 9:46:03 GMT -5
glad you found the new home (or is it nuthouse???). Shurmur sure is a huge upgrade from BM. Can't comment too much on Saquon, as he hasn't played much, but i think Webb has shown that he can at least be our backup. He has shown a lot more to me than Nassib ever did, and we rolled with him for 4 years!!
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 25, 2018 10:09:13 GMT -5
You were right about the kicker . I was skeptical. He is winning me over. Don't forget - Rosas was perfect in pre-season last year also.
He has to show me he can make meaningful kicks in regular games before I will start to trust him.
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Post by TEM on Aug 25, 2018 10:29:55 GMT -5
You were right about the kicker . I was skeptical. He is winning me over. Don't forget - Rosas was perfect in pre-season last year also.
He has to show me he can make meaningful kicks in regular games before I will start to trust him.
It is a good point. I would want to see if he can handle it . It was his first season . I am willing to give him a pass. I would hope to think the FO learned a lesson with Matt Stover on giving up on a kicker too quickly. |
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Post by ocgiant on Aug 25, 2018 10:41:05 GMT -5
Shurmur gets it; with the players and the media which is huge in and of itself.
I am looking forward to seeing how the offense develops... if the O-line can just be average with all the weapons Eli has it should be exciting and fun to watch. It's time... we all deserve to see this offense be competitive this season!
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 25, 2018 10:42:22 GMT -5
Hey,
Welcome aboard . I feel that Mac was in WAY over his head and his current job status confirms this. Also as far as Barkley he looks just as good as advertised which is scary and hopefully he can be the engine that makes this offense go unless the wheels completely fall off of Manning. As for as Davis Webb is concerned I am cautiously optimistic but the very fact that he was a pick from the previous regime is more than just concerning. |
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 25, 2018 10:43:07 GMT -5
Don't forget - Rosas was perfect in pre-season last year also.
He has to show me he can make meaningful kicks in regular games before I will start to trust him.
It is a good point. I would want to see if he can handle it . It was his first season . I am willing to give him a pass. I would hope to think the FO learned a lesson with Matt Stover on giving up on a kicker too quickly. Oh man don't get me started on Matt Stover. |
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 11:09:47 GMT -5
Hey,
Welcome aboard . I feel that Mac was in WAY over his head and his current job status confirms this. Also as far as Barkley he looks just as good as advertised which is scary and hopefully he can be the engine that makes this offense go unless the wheels completely fall off of Manning. As for as Davis Webb is concerned I am cautiously optimistic but the very fact that he was a pick from the previous regime is more than just concerning. That is a bit harsh on the former regime. It's not like every pick they made was aweful. ODB and Collins were also their picks. Let's let Webb determine his own success instead of which GM drafted him. |
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 11:10:44 GMT -5
Hey Mike! Great to see you, man. Is that sarcasm? I can't tell  |
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Post by Roswell on Aug 25, 2018 11:22:23 GMT -5
Until he sits or cuts Stewart and Omemah and sits Halapio and gives Jones a real shot with the 1s, the jury is still out on the HC.
Not sure what he’s watching out there but it seems pretty obvious that these guys are not going to be the answer
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 25, 2018 11:23:45 GMT -5
Hey Mikey! Good to see ya man. I'm excited to see what this team looks like in the regular season. It should be a much better than last season.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 25, 2018 12:02:44 GMT -5
Hey Mike! Great to see you, man. Is that sarcasm? I can't tell Not in the least, but well played nonetheless. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 12:14:19 GMT -5
RZ offense should improve with ODB and Barkley in the mix. Give Eli some time and he will shred defenses. Shepard looks like he’s ready to explode.
They’re going to move the ball at will between the 20s. It’s going to be fun to watch.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 25, 2018 21:06:57 GMT -5
RZ offense should improve with ODB and Barkley in the mix. Give Eli some time and he will shred defenses. Shepard looks like he’s ready to explode. They’re going to move the ball at will between the 20s. It’s going to be fun to watch. I was watching a few breakdowns and it looks like Shurmur is doing a great job of giving the line help. You don't have to send out 5 receivers when you have ODB, Shep, Engram and Barkley to choose from. Send 3 of them and keep an extra two guys back to help block. The extra time for Eli will help shred defenses. Shurmur is creating the O that Mac couldn't. |
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 27, 2018 10:05:04 GMT -5
Hey Mike! Great to see you, man. Is that sarcasm? I can't tell You're supposed to be able to nail the picks at the top of the 1st and 2nd rounds....a well trained child could do that...How did he do with picks after the 1st round ? Which Reese couldn't even do in 2015 and 2017 Also 2/68 isn't a great return on valuable draft capital either |
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Aug 27, 2018 16:11:36 GMT -5
I also think Rosas has looked good this pre-season. To be fair, he looked great last year as well (I think he was perfect on all his kicks), and still struggled during the season.
However, I think a big part of that was him being a rookie and needing to be in those real game situations more. I remember when we replaced Matt Bryant with Jay Feely because we wanted a steady kicker. Feely was very good all season until that 2005 SEA game, then he fell apart. Meanwhile, Bryant has been one of the steadiest kickers in the league for a few years now.
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